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Two out of 3 diabetics don't follow recommended diet
by John CrowleyAugust 11, 2009 7:57 PM
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apanda |
apanda replied August 11, 2009 8:07 PM
Last edited 3 months ago Great topic John!
Debslily replied August 16, 2009 5:43 PM Way to go!!!! I too had an A1C of 13 earlier this year and have been working really hard to bring it dow. I go for my blood test next month. It is hard work, but worth it!
Dana Johnson replied August 24, 2009 2:20 PM My daughter, 14 is a Type I Diabetic. I would love for someone to tell me what she should and shouldn't eat. She controls her diabetes with an insulin pump so we always just dial up for the carbs that she eats. Anyone else out there in our same circumstances that can help with the food problem.
Sarguillo replied August 24, 2009 9:49 PM Here are a few tips for a T1.
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Pat Roth |
Pat Roth replied August 11, 2009 8:09 PM
I have NO CLUE as to what to eat, was not given any guidelines, that is why I am trying to learn from this site. All I know is sherbert is sweeter than ice cream-- My mind just can not handle too many figues yet--would like fixed menu to at least get started with, then adjust as I become more familiar with how many carbs etc, each food has in it--I just can't cope with too many figures right now. Thanks so much, John!
missy123 replied August 11, 2009 10:16 PM Get your Doc to give you education class on diabetes. It helped me alot.
Pat Roth replied August 11, 2009 11:42 PM One reason I am so reluctant to ASK QUESTIONS IS--with other Drs they always seemed to think that I was being a worry wart--and they got so they wouldn't tell me anything, and I honestly just wanted to know a few basics, NOT a college education, like one Dr seemed to think And the more I tried to explain myself, the worse it got, so I AM VERY RELUCTANT to even start asking any questions with this NEW DR> I do want him to like and respect me---BUT, I think I am gaining the self respect I need to approach him with sensible questions. HE MIGHT be relieved that I am now facing it---won't know for usre until I try it, I guess!! PR
LAD replied August 12, 2009 11:37 PM I can relate to reluctance to ask questions, Pat. I, too, used to do that and was brushed off and labelled difficult because I needed more than 2-5 minutes per visit. I bought some books...well, they're gathering dust except when I look up something specific.
Pat Roth replied August 13, 2009 2:35 AM Ha--Lad, small world, when you really get down to it, isn't it??!! I didn't even ask about my diabetis this afternoon, he was pleased with today's BS, losing weight, so guess that is fine with him, so it is with me too! haPR
Darly replied August 16, 2009 2:43 PM I also can relate to the reluctance to ask a Dr. a question,I was also brushed of and labeled difficult because I asked her a question about my glucose level being so high (fasting) she just yelled at me that there was nothing wrong w/me and got up and left saying this conversation is going nowhere!..leaving me without a Doctor for now! Also had the same problem of being rushed out after about 5 min. of seeing her all the time. I also had very high cholesterol and never received any treatment for that...All in all I have no idea as to whether I should follow a diabetic diet or not,well,according to my glucose levels daily looks like I should,and input from all my friends here I think I should,but have a tough time of it as I never in my life had to be on any kind of diet!!
Pat Roth replied August 27, 2009 6:25 PM Oh, MAN, the fact that you two Sweeties were brushed off too, because you asked questions, sure does put My mind at EASE!!! I thought that I was the ONLY ONE to ask questions, considering how the Dr reacted, aCCUSED ME OF BEING anxious, which I denied at first, then re-thought it and said, "Yes, I am anxious because I feel so terrible, yet you will not listen and help me??!!" Unfortuantely, until I started venting on this site and saw that it was NORMAL to inquire about our bodies and we HAVE THAT RIGHT, I now can ask ,without feeling guilty and think my new Dr appreciates my honesty and concern! After I saw him last week for this Crud, I feel better in visiting with him to get Straight answers--then I do NOT worry or wonder so much, and the Dr and I are both better off!! At least that is how it SEEMS to Me, at the moment! ha--Hugs, Pat Roth
Lee J replied September 2, 2009 10:19 PM ATTAGIRL PAT!!! they can kiss my grits.
Pat Roth replied September 5, 2009 8:34 PM Oh, Lee!!! Amen!!! And do I have more to add to the fuel!!!! Or is that, fire?? hhaa--I persisted on seeing my new, immediate Dr, he listened as I was sobbing and shaking and could not stop, put in local hospital, give IV antibiltics, took an x-ray of my left lung, ACCIDENTALLY found a mass, they are 961/2% sure that it is malignant, the kidney is already gone and the tumor had developed new blood vessels to FEED it with (GROSS!!!--) kidney is already gone and have been functioning on one kidney for quite awhile---so I should be OK, once they get that thing yanked out and let me recover---my breathing turned out improved, after the infection subsided
Pat Roth replied September 5, 2009 8:36 PM Oh, another thing, they took me off of Metformin as it is hard on your kidneys! Did you guys know that? I didn't---but I am holding my own with my BS not over 201, and have not had anything for BS for this past week. I just wanted to warn the rest of you in case your own Dr misses something! PR
liladyexec replied October 29, 2009 1:36 PM METFORMIN IS BAD ON YOUR KIDNEYS? iT IS THE MOST WIDELY PRESCRIBED MEDICINE FOR DIABETES?
Pat Roth replied October 29, 2009 4:35 PM Please do comment as it was a surprise to ME!! I did talk to a woman at the Wellness Center that she too had been on Metformin, had some sort of crisis,(??) and was life watched to the city---she recovered but they TOOK HER OFF OF METFORMIN, and a nurse stated that she thought that it would considered to be taken off of the market because of its side effects!! I WAS NOT aware of ANY problems while I was taking it, was COMPLETELY surprised!!
gretchensun replied September 29, 2009 11:42 AM dump that dr..i have a nurse pract and she is wonderful...she is not a dr so therefore she does not think she is god...she has helped me and spent as much time as I need to answer my questions..
deuce replied September 11, 2009 6:35 PM Honey there are hundreds of doctors and you pay them not the other way around. You should be able to ask all the questions you want and they should make the time to answer them or help you find a way to get the answers your self and if they don't u might want to look into finding another DR. Don't ever be afraid to ask questions. also Apidra came out with a great carb counting book I keep mine between 40 and 60 per meal I have lost 40 lbs and brought my A1C down from 13 to 7.3 in 6 months,(i also get a little exercise like a 10 min walk everyday)
WWCUL68 replied August 13, 2009 7:21 PM I got a dietician to help me and although" I thought I knew it all", I learned alot. Well worth the cost. It's carbs, cards, carbs.Now I'm doing better. Also got the carb counting app for my phone.
Charlieexpenditures replied August 15, 2009 10:49 PM The doctor I had when I was first diagnosed prescribed metformin and that was it. I wasn't event testing because I didn't know I was supposed to.Because I have been fighting weight problem all of my life, I guess my diet was pretty good.
katt61569 replied September 25, 2009 3:55 AM I am so glad I have a dr that takes the time to listen and her nurse is the greatest that is the only thing I am going to hate about moving this spring is changing drs to one I like. I was a CNA for 14 yrs and worked in nursing homes and just had to drop out of collage for my RN 18 credits short of completion because of other health problems. Sometimes it really sucks being a full time RVer.
LoriAnne replied September 28, 2009 11:09 PM I am new to this website. But what I do is lean meats, such as fish, chicken, hamburger(not very often), and lots of vegetables, watch for starchy veggies like corn, potatoes(limit these esepecially), limit fruits because of natural sugars. Lots of water, some diet drinks, or sugar free crystal light added to water. You can still drink water but it will have flavor. GRILL, BAKE, BROIL , YOUR MEATS, STEAM YOUR VEGGIES./ WHOLE WHEAT BREAD./ WHOLE WHEAT PASTAS- BUT WATCH THE SAUCES. YOU ALSO NEED TO LIMIT YOUR SALT. TRY SPICES, BLACK PEPPER, TO TASTE. STEER CLEAR OF FRIED FOODS, USE SKINLESS CHICKEN, You can find veggies in the frozen food section that you can steam in the bag which are very handy. Diet is not the only thing, exercise is another(if you are able to). I will be thr first one to tell you I ABSOLUTELY HATE EXERCISE!!!!!! I have to force myself to get on my treadmill, or ride my bicycle, or just get out and walk. But something has finally stuck in my head. You are the only one responsible for you and others can't do it for you. But aren't you WORTH IT!!!! Once you get started and start losing the extra weight, you start to feel better mentally and physically. Anyway, stay away from SWEETS, white flour, gravies, ice creams unless they are sugar free but you also need to KEEP THE PORTION SIZE THE RIGHT SIZE!!!! Thanks for reading my sermon.
Pat Roth replied September 29, 2009 4:25 AM Thanks ,Lori Anne, for the reminders and reinforcements, it is easy to let them slip when other problems arise, BUT that is when they really are important!! Thanks again!! hugs, Pat R
Hinboyz3 replied October 20, 2009 12:06 PM I too am new to the site. I like reading everything that's here cause it gives me some direction. Thank you so much for the information it's a big help. I don't mind exercising especially outdoors while the weather is still free of snow. But sometimes I wonder what to eat and how to prepare it, but I like your ideas, Im going to put them to use. T hank's again |
kdroberts |
kdroberts replied August 11, 2009 8:26 PM
I don't follow the diet that was suggested to me originally. I did for a while and it landed me on 3 different meds and bad blood sugar control. When I started figuring it out myself the medications dropped down and my control got better. Just based on what I've read from other posters it seems that the advice given on this subject is very generic and centers around "eat this diet and we'll just add extra medication if your blood sugar is high." Seems odd that if you have high cholesterol you are recommended a low fat diet. High blood pressure, low sodium. However with diabetes you are told to eat a low fat high carb diet when it's guaranteed to raise blood sugars.
donna13 replied August 12, 2009 10:21 PM Who told you to eat a lowfat, high carb diet for diabetes? I have to eat low fat for high cholesterol, but was told from the first time I saw a doctor for the diabetes that I have to eat a low carb diet. I was put on a fairly strict low carb diet, which can be pretty difficult to follow.
kdroberts replied August 13, 2009 12:30 AM A dietitian. 50% carb which would make my diet 315g-375g carb a day, 3 meals of 7g-85g and 2 snacks of 45g-55g.
silversue72 replied August 15, 2009 4:40 PM Whoa, my dietician from my first class said each meal should be 45grams of carbs or less. That's what I try to use as my guide for eating whatever I want. I also supplement my "diet" with vitamins--super B complex...good for energy which helps the metabolism to burn more calories, minerals--chromium and magnesium...both to metabolize blood sugar. I don't know what the limits are on doses of these, so I only take the recommended daily doses, and these seem to be adequate for me as i have been able to maintain until recently. As for recently, I slacked off exercising and lost focus on eating less carbs overall.
deuce replied September 11, 2009 6:41 PM My Dr is a nurse pract and told me from the gate 40 - 60g per meal and around 20 for a snack and try and eat something every 2 hrs so that my body is always processing then when I eat I don't spike.
gretchensun replied September 29, 2009 11:50 AM I went to one of those diabetic group meetings hosted by bayer and to a dietitian. the meal served at the bayer group was, a sub sandwich with white bread, bag of chips & applesauce!! I was told to eat 45 carbs at each meal, and to eat a carb b4 going to bed to help w/morning high count. I followed this advice and my numbers went through the roof!! same advice from dietitian. I eat very little carbs now and I am doing much better.
Pat Roth replied September 30, 2009 12:45 AM Great, another learning experience!!
Lee J replied August 25, 2009 5:43 PM whoa is right. my dietician said no more than 200 carbs a day & try for less. 50 carbs per meal & 1 50 carb snack. and i'm still struggling on THAT. i initially lost about 50 lbs but have since plateaued, mostly cause i've been cheating a little here & there. it was v v difficult at first, because all i could see was what i couldn't eat & suddenly wanted. but now i've sort of turned into a grazer & a raw foodie. it's gotten way easier. i've broken my addiction to bread, potatoes & soda. still a ways to go, however.
graycladlady replied August 13, 2009 8:00 PM Thank goodness someone else see's this a well as me. I've been diabetic for going on 8 yrs. My mother was as well. Hence I have some experience and yet am honest to admit I still have no clue to it all. I unfortuantly am unable to follow the regiment that the Dr's give due to financial reasons....2 boys and todays costs add up. LOL. Well I have learned that no matter what you eat...watch your carbs and the sugar content regardless if its sugarfree or not. Your sugar levels will lower if you keep in mind that the carbs is sugar to a diabetic and dont use a regular plate to eat your meals on. I use a salad plate. That helps me to ensure portion control which in turn helps with the small meal theory which btw does help maintain control. The increase of starches the specialists insist on ....well lets just say it was suppose to help me lose weight and I kinda gained 40 lbs following their advice. Financial reason are a major issue for alot of diabetics either they cant afford meds or the proper diet.... combine the two and well....HI DOC
Pat Roth replied August 19, 2009 5:51 PM You are funny, ---lady---YOU KINDA GAINED WEIGHT! Love it--that is how I see it too, it is as though if I don't acknlwedge it too strongly, it might just slip away, the same way it kinda came on!! haha--Well, I can DREAM, can't I??!! haha--PR
Pat Roth replied August 19, 2009 5:52 PM I still prefer the small plate, learned partly from Tops, just think more about the WHATS--PR
katt61569 replied September 25, 2009 4:02 AM I to have the finacial problems I am on disaility and my daughter has a mentally retardation so she gets disability and my husband has been unemployed for the most part of the past 12 years once he gets a job a few months later they either shut down or lay off, so when you are supporting a family of 3 on 1200 a month doesn't leave much for anything else let alone special food.
roger replied October 1, 2009 5:00 PM check out your local food pantry some of them will take your needs in to acct and give you food for your need
Cookie29er replied August 19, 2009 5:29 AM Go figure. I totally agree. I don't count fats; only carbs and hidden sugars. Even the no sugar items have hidden corn syrup. SF creamer with s right for your body.
YZBlack replied October 1, 2009 6:42 PM Wow! Who told you to eat low fat - high carb? That's a BIG mistake. Of course, the body needs carbs, but carb control is ESSENTIAL for diabetics!!! |
SabrinaMorgan |
SabrinaMorgan replied August 11, 2009 9:10 PM
I started out good. But always seemed to be hungry, even after the snack. The nutrionist gave me a whole list of low carb items, my case manager recommended some things. The things that were within my financial reach just weren't tastey. I check the internet every so often to find foods that are lower in carbs, then what I get in the market. Breads are high, pastas are high, rice OMG-high. Some times I feel like I'm starving myself just to keep my sugar down, but that is dangerous for my baby. I haven't given up though I'm still looking for things, only becuase there is a great possibilty that my gestional diabetes is more than just that. If anyone has any suggestions I am open to it.
silversue72 replied August 17, 2009 1:35 AM Sabrina, if you are currently pregnant, you should be eligible for the WIC program, no matter what your income level is. You will be able to get some of the healthy low carb foods that you need. Like cheese and milk, some cereals are low sugar (Cheerios) and mild on carbs. Wheaties is also good choice. You could also check into the angel food ministries in your area. Their website is angelfoodministries.com |
caragypsy |
caragypsy replied August 11, 2009 9:18 PM
I have no control over what I get to eat as I live in a Adult Family Home and the caregivers do all of the cooking. I tried giving them a diabetic cookbook no good and there are 3 of us that are diabetic and one pre-diabetic. They do give us a Lot of fruit and vegetables. Cara
Pat Roth replied August 11, 2009 11:47 PM Looks like they need to be reported! Every place I have worked, a fair diet, including specials for diabetics, was a state requirement of the head dietician. Our hospital was watched closely to make sure that they adhered to a Diabetic Diet--ususally I remember the Dr would order it for so many cal., like 1200 or so, then we had a sliding scale for insulin---But I am getting off of the subject! Best of Luck, Cara!!! PR
majeral replied August 15, 2009 4:44 PM Oh yes you need to contact the city or state the funds your living place. They are by law required to see that you get the right diet. You need to stand up for yourself. In the mean time eat veggies, protein , some fruit, Also till they change insit on raw veggies not cooked to look like baby food. I had to get pushy were my Mom was they over cooked everything like mush, good luck
caragypsy replied August 17, 2009 7:36 PM I am a little upset by these replies. I do not think you know what a AFH is, it is not a big place it is a house that has up to six (6) people living in it with one to two caregivers. I was in my first one in 2000 after my back surgery. I have been in 7 AFH's this one for over 3 years. I like it here very much and was just saying this is the reason why I am not on a Dr's diet. Cara
Pat Roth replied August 17, 2009 9:25 PM Oh, sorry, CARA, Just a big misunderstanding, thanks for clarifying our eager answers in trying to help/ Hugs, Pat Roth
deuce replied September 11, 2009 6:55 PM regaurdless of why if you aren't careful with you diet you will never be able to control your blood sugar. You can't do it with meds alone |
missy123 |
missy123 replied August 11, 2009 9:29 PM
Last edited 3 months ago I just found out in June that I am they say type 1 and really have been trying to do this thing. I get so frustrated @ times and just eat what I want 2. Most time s I do well. The portion sizes and looking @ labels is the key 4 me. I only found I have to est a little more if I'm gonna be active outside and use more energy that I do usually. I hate it but thankful it is something I can do something about! |
lipsie |
lipsie replied August 11, 2009 9:46 PM
Unfortunately I also do not follow the guidelines right now. I am uncertain of "how" to work this, lower my portions where I feel full enough, and I am a carb freak..love pasta and potatoes...I dunno, I am suppose to be low salt, low carb, low calorie, I think low everything really. lol But also the cost of some of the diet foods, heck wheat bread verses white..ugh but I do eat my wheat bread still. Just overall to financial do this to, but understand it all .. I am so lost I dunno where to begin. Thanks, great topic John! Sheila
missy123 replied August 11, 2009 10:12 PM
Pat Roth replied August 11, 2009 11:49 PM Thats how I felt too--lost--and that no one really cared, mine wasn't so bad, after all etc, But now, I want to know more so I can make more educated choices. Watch those special desserts at FAMILY REUNIONS!! Wow-PR |
Sarguillo |
Sarguillo replied August 11, 2009 10:59 PM
Ive kinda made up my own diet as I go along. I take what they said to me, what I am hearing from others. And try to follow a basic diet that is not too hard to follow.
Pat Roth replied August 11, 2009 11:54 PM I think smaller portions has been what I have come up with too---I LOVE brown wheat bread, and it can be expensive,but at our Dollar General store I can get it for $1 cheaper, which helps. I have taken a SMALL bite of richer foods, earlier on, haven't had a chance too lately---I did drink a choc. milk shake a few months ago, and my BS went way up, ( for me to 185) but it finally came down and I didn't feel differently so ASSUMED that it was OK!???!! Guessing again! ha--PR
Darly replied August 16, 2009 2:51 PM I can only imagine what mine would go up to after having a chocolate milk shake! Just after eating 1 hot dog in a roll my shot up to 189 2 hrs. later!!! 3 hrs. later came down to 130...I too am on a fixed income (none!) and receive food stamps,the healthy stuff does cost a lot more,guess I'll just try to work around it.
ladydragon replied October 20, 2009 1:04 PM Last edited about 1 month ago My doctor told me first off, NOBODY IS PERFECT! I had an education class and it was wonderful. Thought I knew stuff, but not as much as I thought. Portion size is the biggest thing. Educator told me 1600 calories per day, 45 carbs per meal, and 2 20 carb snacks. My doctor however suggested no more than 30 carbs per meal with 2 snacks. I haven't had a chocolate milk shake since dx in Feb 09, but Wendy's Jr. Frosty less than 30 carbs compared to milkshakes with close to 100 or better. Educator told me that the sugars listed on the labels are already included in the carb count. I think the higher the fiber content and more whole grains is key also. Someone mentioned pasta and rice, I was told whole grain or multi-grain pastas and brown rice. The carb content may be close to the same, but when you deduct your fiber your carbs are lower plus the fact they are lower on the glygemic index and don't spike your bs like the regular pasta and rice does. Everytime I have used Barilla multi-grain pasta, my bs is usually low. Have found Healthy Life bread that contains only 6 net carbs per slice. I will occasionally have a Jr. Whopper; which is 31 carbs.
Pat Roth replied October 20, 2009 4:36 PM Thanks for your valuable input! I thought that I was doing OK, till I had one kidney removed a month ago, taken off Metformin as it is hard on kidneys, NOW I feel like I am starting all over again, am on Glipzide, which presents a whole new battery of questions, eat more to keep the BS up? NOT a way I want to go---gained 11/2 # last week trying to keep my BS balanced! Sigh---PR |
square1 |
square1 replied August 11, 2009 11:49 PM
I have only found out that I am diabetic 3 weeks ago, but was pre-diabetic for about a year. I was sent to a diabetic ed. class and they gave me a diet that I can not follow. I have discovered in taking my blood sugar that it is way too high in carbs. I haven't yet discovered exactly what mix of things or what portion of things that I can safely have but I am experimenting daily. I gather that this will be a continual learning process. I am so very glad that I found this web site today. Thank you for being so informative and friendly. Jackie
Pat Roth replied August 11, 2009 11:56 PM You bet, Jackie! We are all here to learn and it seems like our own personal experiences are more helpful than the professional diets---I guess that we are all so different that we react to different foods, differently! ( Did I say different enough times?? ) ahhhaPR
square1 replied August 12, 2009 12:30 AM Thank you Pat, you know, I am a bit paranoid that I'm doing all the wrong things, but it's nice to know I'm not the only one that feels that way! lol |
steely |
steely replied August 12, 2009 12:35 AM
When I went to the nutritionist, she informed me that I needed almost 200 carbs a day to follow the ADA guidelines. I looked at her like she was from another planet. Carbs cause your blood sugar to rise. It made more sense to lower the carbs.
SkipT replied August 12, 2009 1:12 AM I had a similar experience with a "Diabetic" nutritionist. Said to have 150 grams of carbs a day. I went on the Bernstein program and lost 77lbs, got my BG down and have been med free for over a year now. I think the ADA just wants us to keep buying drugs.
steely replied August 12, 2009 8:16 PM Sounds plausible to me. I have people tell me constantly that I'm not doing it the right way, I should be doing the ADA. I just tell them look at the numbers and the 6 sizes I've lost in 6 months. I have to be doing something right.
Joycee replied August 13, 2009 1:43 PM Dr. Bernsteins Diabetic solution - where can I find it?
graycladlady replied August 13, 2009 8:08 PM I take 5...not to count the insulin on the slide scale.....who can afford them...My meds can run w/o ins. up to $650 not counting syringes, or strips for my machine. Its scarey.....I've gone almost a month again without the meds....and so Yo-Yo BS. the cost of meds is ridiculous
lisaw replied September 4, 2009 1:24 PM I just ordered this book last night . What I want to know is if you follow this book will you lose weight and will your sugar come down? I try to cook right for me but then it is not right for my huisband . And I dont want to cook 2 meals everytime I cook. So therefore I have gained like 50lbs since this thing took over my body. You would think that I would lose weight running after him all day every day. Any help on these questions wqould be greatly appreciated
Vanessa Wysper replied August 14, 2009 5:17 PM You know, that book has been on my shelf with all the others for years and I never read it because of the word "solution." That's right up there with "miracle," "easy," and "cure." I just read the preface and will concede to read it. Maybe it will help...!
steely replied August 16, 2009 1:16 AM It's not easy, believe me but it works for me.A1c of 10.4 down to A1c of 5.4 in 5 months. I also dropped 4 sizes. I will tell you now there is nothing easy or miracle about it. Just hard work but it's worth it.
Dana Johnson replied August 24, 2009 3:32 PM My daughter is Type I Diabetic, she's 14, and has started gaining weight, hungry all the time. I have a hard time keeping things aroudn for her to snack on that is healthy and low carb and good. Got any good ideas that you've tried? Are you Type 1 or Type 2?
John Crowley replied August 25, 2009 4:13 PM Here's a great discussion we've had about healthy snacks.
lisaw replied September 6, 2009 8:32 PM I just ordered this book on friday. What I want to do is try to follow this so I can lose some of this weight that I am carrying . Before diabetes I was at 160 after diabetes I weigh 210 and I know this is not good . It is hard for me to eat right because of my husband he is sick with lung disease and he will not eat things and it is hard for me to cook 2 meals at a time, My dr did not tell me how to eat or anything he gave me medicine and that was it. so what can I do? |
bighead |
bighead replied August 12, 2009 12:54 AM
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Jipwhip |
Jipwhip replied August 12, 2009 2:07 AM
No I don't follow the diet given to me by the CDE. Too high in carbs for me. I try to eat low carbs and eat lots of veggies and some fruit. Also eat smaller potions and eat more often. As long as I eat three meals and three snacks I am doing fine with my blood sugars. I do not add any salt to my food, use Mrs. Dash original blend instead.
sunni1957 replied August 26, 2009 4:17 AM Sometimes it's just so hard for me to eat right. :-( It's like a have no will power.
Pat Roth replied August 26, 2009 1:21 PM That is how I felt many times, but just keep on trying and it will get easier---plan snacks in between meals, has helped me to at least have some control! hugs, Pat Roth |
Harlen |
Harlen replied August 12, 2009 2:29 AM
NO NO I dont do it But
steely replied August 12, 2009 8:22 PM Last edited 3 months ago It's hard work. I sometimes wonder if my quality of life is so compromised that is it worth it. I think that if I can try my best and stay compliant 95% of the time, that's the best I can do.
Pat Roth replied August 12, 2009 9:39 PM Amen, ALL, I get in a hurry and misspell all over the place, glad no one really cares, that I care about! hah___PR |
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Pat Roth |
Pat Roth replied August 12, 2009 2:56 AM
I have been doing some reading of guidlines on this site and am concluding that 50% carbs, 20 % protein and 30% unsaturated fats, which is like dividing your plate into those amounts--which is easier for me than COUNTING as I don't know how to count---what--etc There are certain things we like, and have been following with my meter, so will try to stick to that "plan"--I bought a book on diabetic Recipes at the grocery store, have been reading on it, can't say that I can approve of using some of the ingredients---seems too rich to me--
kdroberts replied August 12, 2009 1:35 PM It's not 50%, 20% and 30% of your plate, it's of your calories. Carb and protein are 4 calories per gram and fat is 9 calories per gram. You will still need to do a lot of counting if you want to follow it. Roughly, every 15g of carb you eat you need 6g of protein and 4g of fat to follow that 50/20/30 ratio.
Pat Roth replied August 12, 2009 2:15 PM I thought you might correct me, Roberts! hah--I TOLd you that I wasn't good with numbers--It seems like my daughter in-law, was told about the plate thing--1/2 veggies, 1/4 protein, 1/4 something else---
Laura M replied October 8, 2009 7:31 PM My doctor had me enroll in a diabetes class through our local hospital. My insurance picked up the cost of the class. It was great. My husband went to the class with me and he and I learned what I need to do together. I received a free meter and instructions on how to use the meter. Also, my doctor provide me with a list of foods and vitamins diabetics need to take. Most of what I was already doing was correct. Both my husband and I learned a lot.
Pat Roth replied October 9, 2009 2:14 PM WOW!!! How Wonderful!! Now that is how it SHOULD BE in the real world!!! Close to PERFECT, I would say!!! Hugs, PR |
tholz |
tholz replied August 12, 2009 3:35 AM
My dr never put me on a diet. Just told me to cout backon portion size. I also when to class and I just when to a refresh course to. I have cuz portions way back. But I am still learning.
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Two painful feet |
Two painful feet replied August 12, 2009 3:46 AM
Last edited 3 months ago Hi! I've been a diabetic for 10 months. I found this site within the first week. Because My doctor said My blood work showed I was a diabetic. She handed me a kit to test my bg and made an apt. to see a dietian. The date was 3 weeks away. I came home lost, not knowing what I could eat. what I know I've learned here. I was doing so good and loosing weight. Then my husband got very sick with his heart. He was the cook and he kept me with in the carb limits. Now our daught send over dinner and I get in my powerchair and fix lunch. I feel like Ive gained weight and my bg hasn't been good. I would love to learn how to make good tasting meals so I feel like I have eaten.
Harlen replied August 12, 2009 4:06 AM Last edited 3 months ago U 2
farmer Harry replied August 15, 2009 6:48 PM One thing that is not mentioned here very often is that if you come under stress, be it financial, physical or emotional pain all of these can make control more difficult.
IrishHeather replied August 15, 2009 7:31 PM What I have found that works is looking at the nutrition labels on the back of the food product. Generally, you can eat the same thing as "normal" people, you just have to cut down on portion size and watch the carbs. It seems like mostly a diabetic needs to stay at or around 45g of carbs per meal with a 15-20g carb snack twice a day. If you are going to be exercising, maybe add a couple more grams of carbs to the meal. Lots and lots of veggies, as they help level out the blood sugar spike of other foods. Cutting down on portions helps with losing weight as well. If you look at the nutrition label, see how many grams of carbs are in a serving size, you can easily figure out how many carbs are in the meal. Stick with whole grain stuff - bread, pasta - and brown rice. Yes they have higher carbs but they are "good" carbs and also don't spike the blood sugar. They also have fiber which is important.
Lulusa replied October 11, 2009 2:40 PM hank you for your tips, what do you think of oat meal at breakfast everyday? |
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DawnFL replied August 12, 2009 4:07 AM
One thing that I am finding as a new diabetic on meds is that it is expensive to eat properly. Right now money is tight and at the time I was first diagnosed in July....I had no income, no money no anything. Hard to believe? Welcome to real life during these bad economic times. I am at the end of a long battle with SSA for disability. With luck it will soon be over and in my favor. Meanwhile, I have tried to work, tried to find other work but in these times where the employer holds all the cards I have much against me. Age, experience or being overqualified, you won't be happy as they say it and lots of pain that shows when I try to walk, sit or whatever. So here I am after working 40 years and have nothing to show for it and now this diabetes thing. I am very afraid! I started to exercise by swimming each day for at least an hour and exercising in the pool. It is all I can do with my physical condition. I try to eat right and have found that you have to pretty much buy fresh and cook yourself. Between sodium content and carbs it seems nothing out there is good for us. The good news is that by reading labels I am not tempted to buy what I use to buy.
Woodyspond replied August 12, 2009 12:26 PM I was diagnosed with Type II in 2006. I live in Vermont which has a tremendous shortage of doctors so I was not able to see an endocrinologist for a year but I saw his nurse practitioner immediately and she went over the whole diet routine. They sent me to Diabetic classes at the hospital for 8 weeks. They call you every 3 months and want your A1C. They follow you around up here like bloodhounds but its great because it makes you stick to what you are told.
Pat Roth replied August 12, 2009 2:28 PM Thank you Woody!! We enjoy everyones input, and especially the mention of what part of the world you are from--it helps me to visualize what others have to go through! And I am a fruit eater--JUICY fruit that slides down more easily! or JUICES, also a no-no--I bought more fruit yesterday, we have the money right now, so I am enjoying it--BUT ---right now I am so constipated I can hardly swallow!!!! I have taken all sorts of Lax. around the house, but need to get more Senokot as it worked good last week--who knows about this week, this is probably one reason I have been losing, too FULL to eat! I don't understand WHY I am having so much trouble the past few weeks!!! I usually have some trouble, but not continuous--
John Coleman replied September 7, 2009 2:16 PM Ck out www.john13.myvi.net, for meal subitutes approved for diabetics !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I use them they are GREAT!.....jc
LAD replied August 12, 2009 11:55 PM Whoa! Dawn, that was me less than a year ago. Medical conditions forced me out of work, no income for 10 months, lived by grace of G-d and friends (lots and lots of prayer too). I have a limited income now & am able to add frozen vegetables and canned fruit to all the carbs. It's not the best diet for many reasons, but it does keep me full so I'm not raiding a neighbor's refrigerator (lol). I'm also not able to afford medication and those drated testing strips all the time either, even though I now have insurance. Seems there should be some assistance in getting diabetic supplies and medicine at least. My insurance won't cover any diabetic supplies although it does help with the medication. I'm glad you're looking for other solutins than cat food though!
Vanessa Wysper replied August 14, 2009 5:08 PM Oh, Dawn, I am so right there with you. I'm a type 1, and my control wasn't so out there until I had my son in 2001, since then, I've been a tumbling health nightmare. I'm fighting for SSD, currently, waiting for my appeal hearing...whenever. My age is a major factor. Just 32, so how could it be so bad, right? My arms hurt after folding one load of laundry! Can't walk to much because of the neuropathic pain.
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Mom and boys replied August 12, 2009 2:48 PM
John I will answer as you asked:
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Neecigirl replied August 12, 2009 2:57 PM
I am a wife of a diabetic and I know he did not recieve any guidlines to go by. They just told us to control his diet. What does that mean? How do I go shopping and what do I look for? Diabetics may follow there guidelines more if their Drs gave them a bit more info. |
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Antique-Dave replied August 12, 2009 3:48 PM
I'm of the mindset of Sarge,
apatt7435 replied August 12, 2009 10:04 PM My father was recently diagnosed with Diabetes type 2. He hadn't been to the Dr in nearly 15yrs, so this is a really big change for him. He's doing very well & doing exactly what they have told him to eat & not eat. However, the problem is he's seen 3 different dieticians & nutritionist and they have all given him different information. He's trying to follow the most recent. What do you do in that situation?
Antique-Dave replied August 13, 2009 4:50 PM Last edited 3 months ago eat and test, test and eat, develop your own list of foods that work in your D body.
Pat Roth replied August 13, 2009 5:09 PM I agree with Dave, after I have snorted around trying to find THE diet, I accidentally have been eating and testing too, till I pretty well know what I can eat, then it keeps changing as I drop pounds, so no way could a Dr really keep track, just wish they would drop a FEW clues when they give you that first pill!!! Hugs, PR
Vanessa Wysper replied August 14, 2009 4:53 PM Oh, I'd give anything for a high around 140. Any kind of control close to yours. I'm envious. It doesn't seem to matter what I eat because my body reacts to foods differently from day to day. Have a salad for dinner, go to bed at 127, wake up in the morning at 303... Did I snort carbs in my sleep?
Pat Roth replied August 14, 2009 5:42 PM Man, Vanessa!! I am so sorry that you are in such a BIND!! It is ironic that our BS betray us when it seems all else has too!! I have BEEN very BLESSED as far as the diabetis is concerned, was ticked when it first started to become a problem, but after comparing my numbers with others on this site, I think I have found my own niche, and it isn't so bad!
VirginiaN replied August 23, 2009 7:46 AM My husband had problems with high BS for many years, mostly because he was eating inappropriately. Once he quit traveling and I had some control over his diet it took almost a year to get his levels down. Just recently he is having consistent morning levels of 95-105. It may be that it will take an extended period of tight control before you see really good results.
Pauline B replied August 31, 2009 3:40 PM I approach my diet with the same attitude as you. Fat actually slows the metabolism of carbohydrates, and though many diabetics go on to develop heart disease and need to control their ingestion of foods that may contribute to this secondary disease. I use fats when cooking, and enjoy pizza, icecream (the real stuff) and real butter. My recent calcium score was ZERO, which leads me to believe that my approach has been OK for me.
Pat Roth replied August 31, 2009 5:52 PM Sounds Real and Sensible, and from one who knows. Me, I just guess but hope for the best, and it seems to be working, but I think developing the Habit of eating better balanced meals, Helped my Body get into a better reaction to sugar, but like, Virginia and Pauline, it seems that it had to be pretty rigorous for awhile before (for me it was 3 yrs.) now I can eat a dab of no-nos---JUST do not let that become a bad habit again!! Moderation, I think---for me---I still see the need for testing 3 or 4 times a day to MAKE SURE__as my body is still a little too sensitive to carbs----hugs, Pat R |
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mamaoak replied August 12, 2009 10:48 PM
i fallow the carb exchange and the permid plan or the canadain rules eat veg fruit but have cut doen on white potatoes half plate veg one and 3 oz of peotien fish chicken lamb , pork or beef once a month no piza no chips hambergs no potatoe chips. lots of nuts strawberis bluberies, black berries milk cottage cheese string cheese . my husband eats what i have some of the time but he likes the things i should not have. but we work it out an other thing he likes to eat late and i have mine around 5. so we work it i make dinner and he warms it up. |
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LAD replied August 12, 2009 11:33 PM
At times, I do follow the diet given to me during initial diabetic education class. Most of the time though, I'm using a high carb diet with frozen vegetables and canned fruit because of limited income. Carbs are filling and easy to stretch to multiple meals.
IrishHeather replied August 15, 2009 7:43 PM LAD - dried beans and peas are a very healthy carb that you can get inexpensively and make some really good recipes with. The carbs in the beans won't spike your blood sugars like other carbs will and they will fill you up. Stick with the veggies and fruit but try adding beans and peas. They add protein too. See if that will help with your control, monetary, and stress issues. |
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Anonymous replied August 13, 2009 3:51 AM
OK - I have to laugh to keep from crying. I was on a website today of a nationally renowned hospital checking out one of their webpages (written by an endocrinologist) on the topic: should diabetics eat in the evening. The endo suggested that if a diabetic just had to eat after dinner to go for free foods like: "a single vanilla wafer". Now I'll be the first one to tell you that I have an eating disorder, but is eating "one vanilla wafer" a realistic diet instruction for ANYBODY? I'm burning up calories laughing at the picture in my mind of me some evening taking down the box of NILLA wafers from the cupboard, removing one cookie, putting it on a plate, nibbling at it in teeny tiny bites, searching for crumbs when the cookie is gone........Anybody out there laughing with me?
Sarguillo replied August 13, 2009 11:37 PM Ok, Im laughing. If I had a box of wafer, the box would not be safe. Chances are that the box would be empty by the time the evening was over. Vanilla Wafers with a glass of cold milk. Ummmmmmm. Dont tease me.
Jipwhip replied August 15, 2009 4:27 PM Oh yeah, I am laughing with you. I mean how could anybody just eat one wafer. It is not going to happen no matter what, they just taste to dam good to stop with one.
Lee J replied August 25, 2009 6:15 PM yeah! i'd like to see that stupid doctor eat just one wafer! or one of ANYTHING! what is she--a size 2?? |
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SisterLyn replied August 13, 2009 10:40 AM
I am really glad that you wrote. I am not sure if you wrote specifically to me in particular or to everybody in general on this site, but I can tell you this much: A) No, I don't always eat the way I should, but I do try, and I try very hard.
steely replied August 16, 2009 11:23 PM Now see, this would drive me bonkers! If I'm not getting anything to eat, I'd better not be gaining weight. I sacrifice food to keep this mess under control. If the meds were making me gain weight, I don't know how I wouldn't just chuck it.
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pahill46 replied August 13, 2009 8:32 PM
I was never given a diet so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to eat. I have been told no carbs at all. Then I look at NutriSystems foods for diabetics and they include carbs. what are the right foods and what are the wrong foods. Help!!!!
mamaoak replied August 14, 2009 12:07 AM well you can have all food but in limited emounts. if you can get book with carbs callorie counts you are allowed 30 to 50 carbs per meal. 3 oz of protien and 1/2 cup of potatoe sweet potatoe is better than white hope this helps
DawnFL replied August 14, 2009 3:28 PM I called the American Diabest Assoc and they sent me several booklets (large size) with great info. They say to divide your dish in half then half on one side. Fill the large side with veggies and the other side with protein and carb. They say both of those are both about the size and depth of a deck of cards. I've only been doing this a few weeks and find that if I do right then I feel more energetic than I have in over a year or more. Between my meds and the food it must be doing something. READ labels is the key. I am horrified with what is in most of our food in the grocery stores. I guess we have to make time to cook like we use to cook and not grab fast food or frozen. I have high BP and can now see why I have gained so much weight and have issues. The sodium, carb and sugar contents in processed food is so unhealthy. The govt says we are obese etc then why not crack down on where our food is processed and make bette standards? Every frozen semi-prepared meal I looked at yesterday was put back. Carbs in the 40s or 30s, sugars 20 or more and I don't even know why those are in these things. I also found by doing right I have lost cravings for many things except pizza....never met one I did not like :-) Just like weight watchers you have to remember you can have anything you want....moderation and common sense is the key. I don't know much about diabetes yet but being fat I know about diets, all of them. I looked at Nutri System too for Diabetics but think my own food will taste better. Remember that like cholesterol, there are good and bad carbs. My Daughter has said for sometime now that things like bagels are the devil ha ha. She dropped 90 lbs and not because anything is wrong yet. I am aso glad she did. From what I read so far, diet and exercise are the key. I am lucky and am in FL so can swim because I am disabled and can't do much else like walking far due to pain. Good luck....don't let it overwhelm you and call for your stuff from the American Diabetes Assoc. You won't feel as lost if you can see the pictures etc in front of you. I am like a child sometimes and want to see these things right in my face. There are 3 ways to diet but I like the plate method instead of counting etc.
kdroberts replied August 14, 2009 2:12 AM http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2008/05/what-to-eat-unt... |
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Pat Roth replied August 13, 2009 11:55 PM
Oh, my, I am afraid that I am laughing out of turn--again!!! When I saw my Dr. yesterday, he patted me on the shoulder , I was down to 93 fasting, and 113 after dinner, have not had much appetite with this CRUD---hurts to walk, you get the picture!
mamaoak replied August 14, 2009 12:10 AM your doing good pat i am proud of you.
Pat Roth replied August 14, 2009 3:28 AM Thank you so MUCH!!! PR
Vanessa Wysper replied August 14, 2009 4:41 PM The docs reactions are always so misplaced. Most of the time you have to just do what works for you. Doctors see so many people, and can't tell one case from another. You get lumped into a group, and if you don't fit, it's your fault, if you do...then you're "listening to them and doing it right!" Keep doing what works for YOU!!!! Yaaaaaayyy!!!!! |
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wolfettia replied August 14, 2009 9:30 AM
I think i don't always follow my diet because I rebel sometimes. You know, think you aren't a diabetic. But boy oh boy it will remind you. |
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Vanessa Wysper replied August 14, 2009 4:38 PM
I don't follow the recommended diet. I think one of the main issues is that different foods affect people differently. I'm a type 1. My nutritionist wanted me to get more fiber in the morning with a high fiber cereal. I tried it, but every time I eat any kind of cereal it sends my blood sugar through the roof. Who would think that two shredded wheat biscuits would require 50+ units of Humalog. It basically costs the same (insulin wise), as a big bowl of Cocoa Krispies!!! I do low carb nutrition shakes instead to keep from spiking. like that. |
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beadmom replied August 14, 2009 5:48 PM
OK this is my first post here….. Hi everyone.
Pat Roth replied August 14, 2009 6:08 PM Wow, there are all sorts of trials for diabetics and ALL ,aren't there? Temptations of one sort or another, making one responsible for themselves, and try to stand your ground in your own family, and in the community, that you do KNOW what is best, and act accordingly. Best of Luck and Love in your FIGHT!! Pat Roth |
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Celia replied August 14, 2009 6:10 PM
It is nice to see I am not alone. I love this community. My bgs when I wake are always high run 198 up to 239. I eat right a way and test 2 hrs later. My bgs go up very little. I was told could go up 50 and still be good. Mine may go up 2 to 20 from where they started. I like the class and the dietician really is trying to help me get my numbers down. She has given me another week, but she feels I will need to be put on another med. I have been very strict with keeping my cabs at 30 for meals and 15 for snacks. I have to eat every 3 hrs for a week and see if that makes a difference. I have been excersing or walking every day for 20 to 30 minutes. Nothing has changed. I am tired, itchy, and frustrated. I keep on trying. I probably won't lose any weight either.
beadmom replied August 14, 2009 6:36 PM Hang in there. My first med(Metformin) made me sick… my second one didn’t do much because it’s a micro amount….. BUT.. the walking and squeezing in those snacks (I know it makes eating feel like a full time JOB.) caused me to drop 65lbs in a year. It starts off slow because you are also building up some muscles you weren’t using, then you start to see the weight drop AND/OR your size change. I went from a 24 to a 16 and saw more inches drop than pounds.
Pat Roth replied August 14, 2009 6:54 PM Oh, Ginger!!!! That helps ME so Much too!! I couldn't figure out WHY my morning fasting was high, even if I skipped eating at 10pm to take a pill---You know, with all of the varied input it is so helping me to understand IT better---and I am finally beginning to FEEL LIKE I AM IN CONTROL for Now, anyway!! AH--I have learned to not get TOO smug about anything, but it is a relief to have a pretty good idea of how things work, better than "nuttn', honey!" hugs, PR
Lee J replied August 25, 2009 6:23 PM oooooohhh!!! is That why my bs is so high in the morning!!! thanks ginger! that knowledge certainly helps alot! |
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Carbophile replied August 14, 2009 9:02 PM
Last edited 3 months ago I follow my dietitians recommendations. A Low GI diet.
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MarineMomX2 replied August 15, 2009 2:47 PM
Last edited 3 months ago The title of this thread really hit home with me last night. My son's gf received her Master's degree yesterday and I attended a family dinner in her honor at a lovely Italian restaurant. Considering I just went thru getting full dentures I was a little leery at eating out and am still not chewing too well, but I couldn't miss it. I had preread the menu on-line so I knew I could make some right choices. Yes, it was tempting when all the appetizers got passed around..brushetta, pizza,calamari, i.e. the 'good' stuff, but I opted to have a slice of pizza and just ate the topping and not the crust. Instead of a salad (yes, I do miss them, but then again the chewing factor comes in) I had a cup of soup and it even had black beans in it! For dinner I chose a light pasta dish with steamed mussels, diced onions/tomatoes. It was really good, but I couldn't finish it all. When the dessert platters came passing around I held up my hand and told the waiter 'no thank you' when he offered me a plate and kept sipping my water while the table drooled over all the offerings. Several then asked me why I wasn't eating the sweets and I just told me it wouldn't help my bs and I was full anyways. What was amazing is that 3 others just non-chalantly added...oh, I'm diabetic too, but am going to eat it anyway. Then and there I came to the realization that WE are the only one's that can make the choices that are right for each one of us. If we choose not to make those choices then we choose to live with the consequences. I don't want to live with those consequences and hope I can continue to make the right choices and live a longer life. The temptations are there on a daily basis, but it's up to each one of use to fight them when they come along. On the way home my son about reduced me to tears. He said 'mom, I'm proud of you'. I saw what you ate tonight and you're making the right choices'. Sometimes just having someone believe in you and tell you that maybe you're doing the right things for a change can be a great motivation to continue this path. Two years ago I promised both my boys that I wouldn't treat diabetes in the same perspective as their granny did and yes, I backslid and did all the things I shouldn't have until it reared it's ugly head about 2 months ago and complications began setting in. But, I want to be around to see my grand kids and my boys for a long time to come and hope to continue making the right choices for myself. Thank you to everyone on this site for helping, just knowing we're not alone in this battle is such a big help.
Pat Roth replied August 15, 2009 2:56 PM Oh, Marine mom 2, I am moved to tears!! So wise and sweet words for all of us to go by-yes it is tempting and hard, but our lives are so worth it, to ourselves, and to others. I am PROUD of you too, and the wisdom of checking on the internet for the menu--spectacular--not sure that I even know how to do that, but so glad that you planted that seed in my mind!!! Hugs PR
apanda replied August 15, 2009 2:59 PM MarineMom, I'm so proud of you!! Not only did you choose to make the right choices for yourself, but you set a great example to your son and possibly those other diabetics at the table (after the fact). Just when you think those kids are in their own worlds and don't notice what adults do all the time......you find out that they ARE watching, and listening. Congratulations!!
beadmom replied August 17, 2009 8:27 PM The other day my daughter and I were at a Chinese restaurant. When the fortune cookies came I grabbed mine and thought. do I have to eat the cookie? I don't even like them that much...why do I always eat the cookie? I cracked it open and this was my fortune.."Only you can change your life. No one can do it for you." I tossed the cookie and put the fortune in my wallet :)!
Pat Roth replied August 27, 2009 6:41 PM Say, Ginger, I liked that comment, I don't like the cookies either, but always ate them as they were FREE, monetarily at least, BUT that inspiring message was one that we all should put into our BRAIN for safe keeping and a daily reminder! It is "funny" how we seem to eat all the freebies, mostly because they are just there, not always so tasty! Hugs, Pat Roth |
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Pauline B replied August 15, 2009 3:21 PM
When I was first diagnosed over 10 years ago, I refused additional instruction because as a nutritionist (but not a dietitian), I knew I could write my own diet based on treatment goals for Type 2(to keep blood glucose levels under 130 and prevent wild flucuations). I also knew there was more to treatment than diet, and maintained my active life style. As with most of us, I don't always follow my own advice, I usually do. The consulting dietitian at the hospital attempted to write a diet, as a professional favor, for me that inculded a bedtime snack, and included 200 grams of carbohydrates/day. As I quickly learned what carbs I couldn't eat I knew her approach was not for me, and had already been interested in non-diabetics' weight loss success via Atkins' approach. I followed that plan but with a moderate intake of both protein and fresh veggies, limited wheat and rice, but can eat corn, beans (think Tex-Mex) in moderate amounts.
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apanda replied August 15, 2009 3:53 PM
It's pretty clear by all the responses that most people aren't sure of WHAT they should be eating. The thing is, there isn't just one diabetic diet that everyone can follow. It's such an individualized area that everyone needs to discover what works for them and what doesn't. What some of you can eat, I cannot, and vice versa. Perhaps the diabetes professionals should be approaching this in a different direction with newly diagnosed people, i.e. not "here is your diet".....but rather, here is how to use your tools (meter for one) to discover what works for you and does not. We can't just blame the professionals though. It is up to each of us to learn what works for ourselves and then to stick with those choices. |
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ginagirlio replied August 15, 2009 4:27 PM
Last edited 3 months ago When I was first diagnosed with diabetes(10 yrs ago) I went to see a nutritionist specifically for diabetics. I have to say it really was not very helpful, in that for diabetics I have found everyone is different and can't eat the same amounts of carbs. So I have researched on my own and found by checking my blood sugars how many carbs I can eat at each meal. I have found that just eating low carb, and eliminating most sugar from my diet has helped me keep my blood sugars in check. I also have joined many sites like this one and other forums like lowcarbfriends.com where people are just trying to eat to lose weight or eat to control their diabetes. People need to inform themselves because no doctor or nutritionist is going to be able to give them a diet plan specific to each person. People need to learn the carb counts for each food they eat and learn how many carbs they can eat in one meal. I have found so many recipes on the lowcarbfriends site and they are all low carb which is what diabetics really need to focus on if they want to keep their blood sugars in check. People really need to learn to eat lower carb, and know this if your eating low carb you should not eat low fat at the same time, you need the fats when your eating low carb. Check out this post on lowcarbfriends, it was really helpful to me in making a meal plan I could stick to along with my family. http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lowcarb-recipe-help-sug.... It just takes a little work but people can learn a way of eating that can be most beneficial to them and their diabetes. One more thing to I need to add is that exercise plays a crucial roll in controlling diabetes along with diet or as I like to say, way of eating. |
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majeral replied August 15, 2009 4:37 PM
Last edited 3 months ago I have been type 2 for 16 years. I was raised to EAT EAT FINISH YOUR PLATE! And I bet a lot of you have also. I was a skinny sickly little girl. So my parents did not care what I was eating just that I was. Well 66 years later I am still "pleasing my self" with food. I am doing better in the last month, WHY. i got off off 2 medication i was on for 10 years. HOW with the help of the "doughnut hole" from the "gap" insurance. could no longer afford to get my pills. So I slowly cut back one is cymbalta 90 mg a day for foot pain, and provigil for sleep apnea to stay awake during the daytime. Anyway since they were not something that would be life threatening I stopped them. After 4 days of crying etc. I felt FANTASTIC the best I have felt in 7 years. My BS are great lower than ever, I have more energy, and for the FIRST time in 16 years I am eating better. My heart Doc. was very happy with my EKG and said I looked really good.
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shel1942 replied August 15, 2009 5:30 PM
I try to follow a diet, however I am not the cook. My wife resents it when I try to cook dietary meals and gets upset if I don't eat what she cooks. In addition, when I asked my doctor for advice I was sent to a very snippy nutritionist who treated me as if I was 6 in telling me what to eat. I, also, got the "try this and we'll adjust your meds if needed". That's partly why I'm here and trying to avoid being sabotaged.. |
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Florian replied August 15, 2009 5:33 PM
I think the diabetes care teams should not use the word DIET and replace it with Healthy Eating and Portion Control with the emphasis on the latter to control blood sugar and weight. My plan includes eliminating all high glycemic index white carbs, (white bread, white potatoes, pasta, and white rice). I do replace them with low glycemic index foods like pumpernickel bread, sweet potatoes, whole wheat pasta, and brown rice. It works for me.
beadmom replied August 17, 2009 8:41 PM Somehow in my strange brain I never practiced portion control before...because if it was there..you should eat it all.
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sportykat replied August 15, 2009 5:37 PM
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Gabby |
Gabby replied August 15, 2009 6:29 PM
I think the first answer is that doctors don't recommend a plan. Mine handed me a stack of copies and told me to read it. I did and it was such old information I just shook my head and figured this is why people don't have control. I marked it up and gave it back to him. (I am bad, aren't I?)
jigsaw replied September 5, 2009 11:30 PM You appear to be an individual with excellent self control and a positive attitude! Congratulations, I enjoy listening and learning as well as sharing with people like you. Someone once said to me " If you had a shotgun pointed at your head and it would go off if you had pizza or pasta but not if you had a salad, which would you choose? Well, diabetes is the shotgun! Diabetes may not be as obvious, but it is definitely an extremely insidious disease that deserves a reasonable amount of attention. Denial is a dangerous game when it comes to this disease! I know these are strong words, but I like to see myself as a DRAGONSLAYER and the dragons name is DIABETES!!! |
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Lori RN MS Health Education replied August 15, 2009 7:35 PM
I think ,many diabetics do not follow the recommendations because the food plans they are directed to follow are often cumbersome and difficult to keep track of exchanges. I am a health coach and registered nurse who teaches diabetics how to lose weight safely by eating 6 meals a day that maintains blood sugar values within normal limits.
kegler299 replied August 15, 2009 8:21 PM Thanks. I have added medical problems and my heart dr put me on warfarin, then told me to eat no grains, potatoes, rice, corn, no dairy products, maintain a steady level of vit K intake and eat lots of greens. I am allowed chicken, fish and one serving of red meat a week. For the last 65 yrs I ate meat, potatoes and corn or pork-n-beans. My dietician said to eat a balanced diet of reduced caloric intake. I'm trying to find a way to work from a std diet to his; in time. |
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munchkinmama replied August 15, 2009 9:14 PM
I do my best to follow my doctor's advice, but it is difficult with three other family members who refuse to eat what I do. After beng in school all day, the last thing I need to do is cook two or three dinners. My dad is 78 and doesn't like to eat whole grains or low fat low carbohydrate meals. My son and grandson do not like salads or most of the vegetables I would like to eat. The cost for the healthiest ingredients is also difficult to justify buying them for myself. It seems selfish to buy "special" items. |
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Joyceslt replied August 15, 2009 9:49 PM
I live alone and do not seem to eat on a schedule. I get involved with an activity and forget to eat much later than I should. I also hate to cook although I certainly can. At that point I grab something or order out for delivery. As a resuld I do not eat as I should. I have gained weight and my sugars are fluctuating. I live in south florida and it is way too hot and sunny to use our pool late afternoon. I have had numerous foot surgeries so walking is out and swiming is the best exercise for me. I seem to be in a no win situations. If I had someone to be responsible to I would eat on a regular schedule etc. All sugestions would be helpful!!! and gladly accepted.
Anonymous replied August 16, 2009 2:39 AM You do have some one to be reposnsible to: yourself!!!! You deserve good food, in a way that you have quality of life. Take care..you are worth it!!! |
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Ruth G replied August 15, 2009 11:01 PM
I think the ADA diet is too high in carbs. I limit them a lot more. I look for low-carb products and use them. I'm currently on an ice shake kick--using low carb cranberry juice, sugar free syrup such as raspberry/chocolate, plain yogurt and ice. They're wonderful.
Ruth G replied August 15, 2009 11:10 PM Hum--I should have said--you need to make ice shakes in a blender with good blades. |
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bellladyus replied August 15, 2009 11:04 PM
I have several reasons why I am non-compliant with the dietary restrictions. One...I am often on the road at meal time and end up relying on fast food. Two...I am pretty bad about knowing what the appropriate food choices really are. Three...I hate to cook in my kitchen. It heats up the house in the summer and it's too cramped. I realize none of these are good enough to justify slowly killing myself, but they all combine to make a situation that makes it easy to be non-compliant. In addition, I go through phases where I simply can't get enough food into my mouth to feel satisfied. I crave sweets and often do not feel satisfied with the "healthy" choices I do try to make. (Please note, I am VERY overweight and have eaten this way for years -- much longer than I have been diabetic. Old habits feel impossible to break.)
Pauline B replied August 31, 2009 3:53 PM I think it's possible to eat fastfood wisely. I order the least "decorated" hamburger, don't eat the fries, and get a salad instead, and just drizzle the dressing (even if it's "diet"). For beverages I drink iced tea, coffee, or diet soda but usually it's coffee). Even the fish palces are offering non-fried fish these days (at least Ivars in the Puget Sound are does). |
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Sharon Elkins replied August 16, 2009 1:41 AM
I'm a type 2 diabetic, diagnosed about 2 1/2 years ago. I don't follow a strict diet...because I was told I could eat anything I wanted as long as it was in moderation and to test 2 hours after eating. My A1C has gone from 7+ (2 years ago) to 5.2 and has stayed at 5.2 or 5.3 consistantly. The only problem I have is that I am a big meat eater and prefer red meat and salad, or red meat and green beans -- but I find I still have to have a carb with/ or shortly after. Anyone else with this problem? And my weight doesn't go up or down just stays the same. This is frustrating because I want to loose weight. |
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Pat Roth |
Pat Roth replied August 16, 2009 2:58 AM
I am married but still FEEL alone! When I NEEDED to lose, he put me down, now that I am, he keeps offering me sweets! hah--I can now just Laugh at his unstable character! And I am supposed to be the CRAZY ONE! haha, Guess it deoends on who you ask!! Hah-Pat R
TeetooMac replied August 16, 2009 7:03 AM Last edited 3 months ago Being a 13 year veteran of diabetes, I have learned a great deal in my many years of battling this deadly disease. Most important to me is my attitude. I ate my way into this disease and by golly I will eat my way out of it. Yes, I mean reversal, remissions and all those scary words that few believe in. My mentors include Pritikin Longevity Center paid for by a wealthy benefactor and Dr. Bernstein, mentioned above, Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr. Gabriel Cousens, and DeWayne McCulley, Author of Death to Diabetes. Studying each of these persons' books, you find that there are many diets and eating plans to choose from and with almost any of them, you will lose weight and drop your HbA1c to nearly normal levels, depending on your level of rigor. Keep in mind that these experts don't agree among themselves any more than those of us with the disease.
Pat Roth replied August 16, 2009 1:58 PM Wow, you impressed ME!! Will try to do half as good as you!! What determination!! Best Wishes , Pat R
chemteacher57 replied August 17, 2009 3:26 AM It sounds like you really took what Dr. Bernstein had to say about control of diabetes. I Have been a follower of Dr. Bernstein with some success. However, my endocrenologist disapproved of the highly restrictive carbohydrates and put me back on 40 grams of carbs per meal and 15 per snack. The only problem that I had with the Bernstien plan was that I would start craving carbs around 3:00 PM. I never really seemed to get past the cravings.
jigsaw replied September 6, 2009 8:44 PM Your words are fabulous!!! You really cover the bases here! What you say is all SOoooo true! I relate strongly to what you have said here and I've also experienced similar thoughts and emotions!!!!! |
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Pauline B replied August 16, 2009 4:42 PM
As I reviewed the responses I was shocked by the attitude of many doctors and other professionals who did not seem to treat their patients with respect and care they deserved. Many of us are able to figure out things from reading and research and being our own guinea pigs, but many need a real hands-on approach to dealing with this distructive deasease. As we consider a massive change to our health care system, how will our varying needs for education fit in with any plan? Will anyone hear our call? What are the ADAs doing for us?
John Crowley replied August 17, 2009 5:04 PM I think you are right to some degree. I think a lot of doctors simply don't have much of a background in nutrition. So it isn't totally shocking to learn that they haven't been much help. Also, as I've learned about the large percentage of diabetics--particularly newly diagnosed diabetics--who are seeing a general practitioner instead of an endocrinologist, it all starts to make more sense. So many docs are stretched, seeing too large a patient load to truly manage.
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lucy1967 replied August 17, 2009 12:19 AM
I also think this is a good topic. I do not follow my doctor's diet because actually the family doctor does not really handle my diabetes except for the medication that I take. I know that I need to stay away from sugar products and some carbs, but other than that, I don't follow a diabetic diet for several reasons. I grew up eating sweets (deserts). My husband does not make it easy to follow a diabetic diet. I do not know or grasp what a diabetic diet includes or excludes except for amounts of sugar. My nights are worse for me as for eating. I want to snack at night to relieve stress and tension. And what I want to eat is usually junk food. And my husband usually wants to eat later at night. I also know that being diabetic can cause problems with other parts of my body (feet, hands, eyes for sure). Thank you for letting me share.
Antique-Dave replied August 17, 2009 1:26 AM I like to eat with my wife and on those nights when she is working later I just have a bigger snack or small meal earlier and a smaller portion of a late dinner and then generally no late night snack.
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JanKiml replied August 17, 2009 2:38 PM
I will tell you one thing for sure, do not depend on your doctor to instruct you on how to manage your diabetes. Educate yourself!! Read everything you can on the internet and learn for yourself. I was in the hospital on supposedly a diabetic diet and thank goodness I knew what to eat because if I would have eaten what they gave me, my numbers would have been outrageous. They served me a biscuit that looked like it came direct from Kentuck Fried Chicken, greasy and way to big, so for my 14 day hospital stay, I only ate what I knew was healthy for me and left the rest. Do not depend on anyone but yourself for your healthcare. No one cares about your health like you do. |
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TLnopanc replied August 17, 2009 3:26 PM
I'm a little differenct as I'm a surgical T1, had my pancreas removed in Dec 07, with an auto islet transplant into my liver. Unfortunately, the islets did not "take root" and as a result I am one of the brittles...
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Kathy Hendley replied August 17, 2009 4:39 PM
I wish my doctor would be specific. I have been trying to lose weight but my doctor doesn't seem to really care. They are so vague. They may just hand me a cookbook of tasteless recipes. It is really hard to go low carb on a pump. My bloodsugars go crazy!
John Crowley replied August 17, 2009 4:48 PM If you're on a pump and you're seeing large fluctuations in your blood sugars when you eat fewer carbs, my first guess would be that you should look at adjusting your basal rates. If your basal rates are right, then you should be able to handle eating fewer carbs without your blood sugars going crazy.
Carbophile replied August 17, 2009 4:57 PM I was given very limited dietary advice "go low GI, and some mumblings about portion size". I've had to use my meter to find out what works for me. I use my dietitian as a weight loss validation service - it helps to have a professional confirm that you're doing as you've been told.
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Jocelyn replied August 17, 2009 7:21 PM
Last edited 3 months ago I found this topic interesting John, and it reminded me of the shock of being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes... I sat down and contemplated long and hard about what it meant to me, and because I think most clearly when I write... I wrote the following to myself in response to my diagnoses... I want to share it here because I really think taking charge of our health is essential to our core happiness quotient... life is hard without disease... and when we find ourselves facing even greater limitations brought about by consequesnces of generations of DNA and poor collective choices of whole populations... with a percentage of the populations paying the price more so than some others, it makes me think... How can I take responsibility for what is happening to me... regardless of why it happened...How can I respond to my need to self-care... ? and this is what I decided was right for me... I will not say it is easy... it is not... but education can be an amazing friend... I have found that making correct food choices is for me, more than half of the battle... what point is there in having an amazing race car if you don't have the right fuel to drive it... discipline is not a punishment... it is the gate to freedom... following is what I wrote to myself...
wife of diabetic replied August 18, 2009 2:13 PM my husband has been a diabetic for 18 yrs now and at first he had a really hard time excepting the fact that he was going to have to take a shot for the rest of his life. He got this disease as a result of an accident that crushed his pancreas and he was in and out of doing the diet thing to not & for the past 10 years he has eaten what he wants when he wants and he is not on any medications except for the insulin of course he is on pump therapy which I personally think is god send because it changed the way the whole family lives. Anyway I am very new here so I figured I would just check in and give my 2 cents. Thank you very much for the informative website :)
Pat Roth replied August 18, 2009 5:53 PM Me too! I am not as severe as most, but I am learning so much on this site, but even better, is the spirit of comradery! They understand when you are down (depressed) or wondering, it is safe to ask questions, there is usually someone who knows the answer or at least point on in the right direction, then there are recipes too! It is amusing to ME that I was so concerned to NOT have been advised to see a specialist, or given Something to go by, but after reading so many posts, it seems the trial and error test is best---eat, test---eat-test--exercise--test and see how your OWN body responds to your own personalized method of treatment. To me, this gives you a feeling of power over your own body--you do know what is best, the experts can only SUGGEST!! hugs to AALL, Pat R
beadmom replied August 18, 2009 6:08 PM About the recipes...My DH says he's going to try the califlower hashbrowns for us this weekend.(I work out of toen all week) I am excited that he even wants to give them a shot!
TeetooMac replied August 18, 2009 6:47 PM Thank you so much for your post! In this diabetic desert where I never had a chance to interact with others with this chronic disease, postings have been the closest to getting me in touch with others and myself. If you read my post earlier, you will probably see some strong correlations in our writing. At the present, I am trying to design a community-based diabetes self-management program for my part of Minneapolis. I would like your permission to share your post with my development team! Miigwetch! Robert
Jocelyn replied August 18, 2009 6:58 PM absolutely Robert, be my guest... and thanks for inviting me to your friends list... drop me a note sometime... hugs, Jocelyn |
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StoneFaery replied August 18, 2009 4:57 PM
In Feb. 2009 I was diagnosed with type 2..I was very good about what I ate; especially the carbs per meal and per snack. Well, 4 months later, I was laid off, no more insurance, husband took a drastic pay cut. When you live pay check to pay check, you certainly can't eat "healthy". I miss meals now and again, which they say isn't good to do; but have found that my sugars have stayed lower than they were when I was eating as the dietician recommended. I don't eat 3 snacks anymore either. Just thought I'd throw that out there...I found it interesting that my sugars are better now, than they were when I had money to eat "right". I still don't use sugar and I stay within my carb count. |
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rvogt57 replied August 18, 2009 5:28 PM
This is a very good topic. I have been a diabetic for 27 years. I try to follow the ADA diets, however, I think that I can slide frequently and not suffer repercussions. WRONG! My blood sugars are a bouncing, which is not good for my body. After so many years I have become lazy with my maintenance. I am scheduled to see a dietitian and go to education classes again so that I may get on the right track and hopefully stay there or close to it.
beadmom replied August 18, 2009 5:33 PM Scheduling the appointment and the classes means you are already getting back on the right track! Way to go!
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Cookie29er replied August 19, 2009 5:23 AM
Last edited 3 months ago I went to the dietician at Ft. Huachuca and she is young and aggressively ignorant. I do not follow her pyramid plan. I told her to turn it upside down for diabetics. Some of those so-called dieticians are fat and need to re-think that old plan. She didn't want to 'get' what I was telling her. I told my doctor I thought that dietician was 'smoking some serious dope' if she thought this would work for diabetics. So I gave up and went back to my 'old' way of eating. I'm a brittle, volatile diabetic and I have gone back to Adkins--more proteins, less carbs and it's keeping me in tigher control although have to monitor those creatinin levels. I am definitely carb sensitive and insulin resistant. a mere 5 gms a day will spike me. Eating this way is very expensive and difficult on my income yet it must be done. Good thing I do my own hair, tee hee. . Am back in school and it's hard to eat healthy when you're exhausted so today I got a chicken take out meal. Back to the grind tomorrow. Blessings on all my diabetic network friends; keep up the good work.
Pat Roth replied August 19, 2009 5:59 PM Man, cookie! Sorry about your being a serious diabetic, but it sounds like you have a good, positive outlook anyway! Sometimes that means more than diet---well, in MY WORLD! I am fortunate to NOT have it as badly as most---I talked to a woman at Wellness Center this morn that is a brittle diabetic, was sent by amb to the city not too many mos ago--I asked her how she was doing and she thought that she was lined out once more, had been on Metformin and it caused her digestive problems too, at first, but now is on humulus etc, She was ferverently hoping that the new health care plan would help with the HIGH cost of her injections---I do too for her and the rest of you!!! She had been a diabetic since her daughter was born, over 48 yrs ago! Hugs, PR |
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pop2 replied August 21, 2009 7:13 PM
I struggle to come up with ways to blance my carbs thats
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beadmom replied August 21, 2009 7:57 PM
I WANT MORE PIZZA! I WANT MORE PIZZA! I WANT MORE PIZZA! I WANT MORE PIZZA!
Pat Roth replied August 21, 2009 10:24 PM Last edited 3 months ago hahah--You are so funny, Ginger! Reminds me of myself at times when i so WANT something naughty and delicious!! But I am finally in a good place where I can eat a bit of something---but do try to cut back somewhere else. Haha---try getting the crud, it curbed MY appetite for 2 weeks, but now that I am better- Barney, Latch the DOOR to the fridge, kitchen, basement or any other place that might contain a crumb of any kind!!! hugs PR
beadmom replied August 21, 2009 10:48 PM I feel very righteous now as 2 hours later my BS was 125. Glad I didn't have that next piece of pizza.
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gmom replied August 22, 2009 1:27 PM
hi it is hard to follow the diet i have been trying for about 7 or 8s years it is not easy so what do i do.
Pat Roth replied August 22, 2009 2:43 PM I am finally in a place where I have a solid enough habit as to what to eat, that I can break over for one thing, one time and still be safe. Maybe it is just because the eating sweets is no longer such a habit, that I can do that and now I don't feel so resentful. Best of LUCK and STRENGTH! PR |
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pamtorn replied August 27, 2009 6:01 PM
I have been diagnosis with daibetes for the last 8 years. This was after I had my heart attack I did not know I was a diabetic. I have tried and failed on the diet. I am I guess a bad diabetic. No matter what I do I cannot get my sugar levels under control. When I eat and exercise right its high and when I don't it's high.
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sherryd replied August 27, 2009 6:57 PM
I am having a problem with following a diet plan is my schule and I am always craving sweets. Once I make up my mind I do good for 2 or 3 days. Then I fall off the wagon.
beadmom replied August 27, 2009 7:23 PM I sure understand the schedule problems Sherry.
Pat Roth replied August 27, 2009 9:25 PM That seems like such a sensible approach to an eating plan for a problem, Ginger---You still lead such an interesting life, yet can accomodate planned snacks that help you get through it all, graciously! Our daughter-in-law is a trouble shooter too, manager in a complaint section of T-Mobile or such--has been sent to Nova Scotia, Canada, Guam etc, finds herself having to check at least 4 times a day, just takes her kit to business meetings, she isn't discreet tho, she lays her stuff out on the table and when her phone alarm goes off, she just sticks and checks right there---Not sure I could, but she is her own person, good at her job, not shy-and does just fine with her testy dx, it is more troublesome than mine, her mom, grandma etc have had it so at 48 yrs, it was just a matter of time, THEY say.
beadmom replied August 27, 2009 9:51 PM The only kink I have found in my well laid plans is when my dog raids my laptop bag and steals the goodies.
Pat Roth replied August 27, 2009 11:08 PM Oh, MY!!! What a Goody doggie! ha--PR |
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jigsaw replied August 28, 2009 1:34 AM
This is really a very complex subject! Here is a summarized version of what I do. I follow my doctors recommended diet and then some! I'm sure I go to extremes to to try and ensure as much as possible that I maintain my health. I hardly ever eat processed foods ( the mainstay of the american diet) and loaded with carbs. My diet consists of vegetables (salads) chicken, some cheeses, some meat, some fruits (strawberries) sugarfree jello, nuts and fortunately a wife who prepares these foods with a great deal of imagination and variation. I also do quite a bit of aerobic type exercise and some light strength training. It is the combination of all these things that control my blood sugar, cholesterol. and blood pressure along with meds. Tough to do is putting it mildly, but it's easier than the alternatives. At this stage of my diabetes, if I leave out any of the above, my blood sugar levels get out of hand, my bp rises along with my cholesterol. I enjoy people, health and life to much to give in and give up!!! 16 years of diabetes, and it just gets tougher, but the diet gets stricter, the meds get adjusted and altered as necessary, I keep searching for info and fresh input to keep up to speed. I've been successful so far at controlling this disease and I believe this is possible and well within reach for most diabetics if not all!!
Pat Roth replied August 28, 2009 2:48 AM Wow, what a testimony!!! I should be able to pull my own weight after reading your post! I am lucky to not have to big a pitch if I do eat a piece of potato, etc, Yesterday I ran higher as I didn't feel good so just ate what I felt like I could handle, tummywise--not a good plan. My digestive system is what leads me astray, can't eat the salads then etc, crave ice cream or something cold that will slide on down with little trouble and fill in the holes. Today I ate fruit yogurt which wasn't too bad and my BS behaved so that has now become my own option when my tummy hollers! Good Luck to ALL! PAt Roth
Pauline B replied August 31, 2009 3:57 PM Good meal plan.... and exercise, too. I like your attitude, and wish you continued luck with controlling our disease. |
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Sharon-LV replied August 29, 2009 5:48 PM
Hi - Being new to blood glucose testing and using Lantus SoloStar and Januvia has brought my blood sugar reading down to 5.8 from 8.2 in 3 months. Must continue the diet so I can enjoy life slimmer and healthier. |
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gma replied August 30, 2009 12:29 AM
Well Iam 2 out of 3. The place my Dr sent me to was a joke. I have learned more here. still dont know everything to eat yet. I seem to have a problem with staying on it or saying no. We have just moved and for 2 weeks eat all wrong. Before that I was doing good and felt great. But I sure know now to stay with it or I feel like crap I guess Iam still in the trial of foods.
Pat Roth replied August 30, 2009 1:13 AM Well, moving is enough to throw anyone off track--you will get back on--you have determination! I am doing better but still am tempted and probably always will be, hopefully just not as much! Take care, Cyndi!! Hugs, Pat R |
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Christine Lincoln replied August 30, 2009 1:31 AM
Last edited 2 months ago This is especially for Darly. When I was diagnosed 14 years ago, the first thing my doctor said was "I'm taking you off of sugar." I wish it had been that simple. I ate a lot of sugar. I made a decision that day to give up cokes and I have not drunk them since. But there were a lot of other things I was doing wrong. It took me a while to realize I needed to cut back severely on simple sugars (carbs), like potatoes, rice, bread. We need to add in complex carbohudrates: your broccoli, caulifower, asparagus, tomatoes, etc. It does take planning ahead to not mess up. Add in water, at least 5 glasses a day. It helps me to add in the sugar free powders, like Wyler's lemonade mix. Learn to fix fish and chicken, baked boiled, broiled; stay away from fattier meats as much as possible. Once a week is enough for beef and organ meats. Add some exercise to your program; walking is good 4 or more times a week -30 minutes - and you'll realize you are starting to feel better than you have in a long time. God bless you. |
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Lisa Ann replied September 5, 2009 1:15 AM
I like so many others do not eat a healthly diet. My big problem is some weeks I work 70 to 80 hours, so I have no time or engery to cook right or excerise. I lost 28 lbs when first dx and have since gained it all back. Work should be slowing down soon and I will get a handle on my eating. |
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ellenl replied September 6, 2009 6:02 AM
i would try to follow the rules if i new what to eat and not to eat i have had dibetes for 10 months now and i still dont know nothing other than dont eat sweets and dont eat potatos and rice my doctor didnt tell me nothing other than you have dibetes and you need to go on a diet i was scrared to death and then say o you half to take insulent the nurse in the hospital told me how to use a needle i could have killed my self some times i think the doctors are in it just for the money
gma replied September 6, 2009 4:09 PM Well Iam the same way. Have had this since last Nov and still cant stick on it. But I do know if I follow my diet I feel much better and am not so tired.But it is hard to do. I was not informed on what to eat and what not to. The place my Dr sent me to was a joke. I have learned more hear than anywhere so hang in there |
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jigsaw replied September 6, 2009 9:42 AM
Last edited 2 months ago Someone once said to me " If you had a shotgun pointed at your head and it would go off if you had pizza or pasta but not if you had a salad, which would you choose?" Well, diabetes is the shotgun! Diabetes may not be as obvious, but it is definitely an extremely insidious disease that deserves a reasonable amount of attention. Denial is a dangerous game when it comes to this disease! I know these are strong words, but I like to see myself as a DRAGONSLAYER and the dragons name is DIABETES!!! We should do everything we can do to be informed, Look to the various resources available to all and learn! This site is a great storehouse of info as one example. No matter how tough it gets, this is a disease that can be controlled !!!
KathyJane replied September 6, 2009 4:52 PM Hello all..I'm new as of today. I have type 2. I was in denile for at least a year. I am on medications...but I would like to connect also with a group in the Fort Worth area since I live here. I'm alone doing this...not married and have a 20 year old son that nags me all the time about what and what not to eat. He means well. Does anyone know where to find support here? Thank you and have a good holiday weekend.
Pat Roth replied September 6, 2009 7:32 PM Hi, Kathy Jane!! Welcome! There are so many different kinds of support on this site, links to pertinent information, recipes (look to the left of your profile page to see the list of helps available) Others that have been here longer than I, can offer more, precise info. I mostly approach diabetis from an emotional and venting style. I have been venting my own frustrations of being Borderline for over 50 years, then 3 yrs ago to be told that now it was official I must start watching what I ate and get more exercise!t I TRULY had to do something about it----My plate was FULL at that time, but after 3 years of sulking, gripping, then slowly starting to choose a better, healthier, eating style, increased exercise (for me, swimming HELPED!) I really do FEEL better, which is rather ironic as I was diagnosed with a malignant kidney this week with its removal scheduled for Sept, 15th---
DebsSweet replied September 17, 2009 12:09 AM Bless your heart! With that fantastic attitude, you'll do great! |
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John Coleman replied September 7, 2009 2:25 PM
I found the answer in a meal substitude by ViSalus(which means Health,wellness and life). It is approved for diabetics,ask your doctor about and if he doesn't KNOW, tell him to look it up.For more info go to www.john13.myvi.net |
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sunshinie replied September 8, 2009 10:17 PM
My doctor recommended that I go to my local hospital, as most of them do have Diabetic counciling classes. Well mine did. That class was the best thing i could have ever done. I found out that i knew what diabetes was, but really honestly had NO idea what to do with it! They showed me EVERYTHING! They gave me a meal plan to follow. Sooooo much paperwork and so many learning tools! And after the classes were done, they still kept in touch, every month they send me a letter just to check in, They follow my dr appts, And they send out invitations to informative classes that they hold for diabetes at the hospital. Last month they sent out a letter for a walk to help diabetics at the Zoo....which i attended.
beadmom replied September 8, 2009 10:23 PM I WANNA WALK AT THE ZOO.......
beadmom replied September 8, 2009 10:25 PM Although, Walking to Circle K from work is very similar....
Pat Roth replied September 9, 2009 12:54 AM Oh, Ginger, you are the zoo! hah---I am the head monkey, what a pair! ha PR
beadmom replied September 15, 2009 6:53 PM 3 1/2 more days in the zoo and then I am on VACATION FOR A MONTH!!!
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roger replied September 8, 2009 11:02 PM
in june i took my diet and did a 360 i stoped potatos rice and pasta i eat e muffin in am with butter or pb then have a salid or frute for lunch and a salid and my meat and mostly corn as my veg and as of today i have lost 22 lbs and my a1c went from 8.8 to 6.9 this took only 90 days i also am going to a 24 hr gym 3 or 4 times a weak this was very hard at first but know i get full so fast i dont even think about it but i still want to loos 56 more lbs then i will be happy with my self as long as my a1c gets to 6.5 so on i go with the diet of my life !
sunshinie replied September 8, 2009 11:19 PM It's not a diet!
beadmom replied September 15, 2009 6:47 PM Roger,
roger replied September 15, 2009 11:25 PM thank you! but just to clue you in on somthing shee loved me when i was over 300 lbs and still does today and on sat we will have an annav our 15 th!!!!!!!!!! fat thin it does not matter to eather of us just as long as we have each other
beadmom replied September 17, 2009 9:13 PM I know.. I remember that. It is wonderful. I am just glad someone as awesome as that is going to get to enjoy you a lot longer. What a sweet reward. You deserve each other!
DebsSweet replied September 17, 2009 12:06 AM Wow - I think you are doing great! It's the exercise thingie that is so boring to me! I'll have to walk my dogs more often! |
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DebsSweet replied September 17, 2009 12:05 AM
Healty eating? Born and raised in NC with all the red eye gravy, grits, mashed potatoes and on and on and on. Eating healthy goes against my entire life. *pout* This is not fun LOL
beadmom replied September 17, 2009 9:17 PM LOL.. I know. I am headed off to France.. whos main breakfast is chocolate croissant and coffee. Yikes... then..
DebsSweet replied September 17, 2009 11:00 PM LOL! You are too cute! Have loads of fun in France - and good luck! :-) |
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maryb63 replied September 17, 2009 9:41 PM
does coffee raise your sugar
jigsaw replied September 18, 2009 8:29 PM Last edited 2 months ago maryb63
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T_Bowman replied September 20, 2009 3:56 PM
I have a hard time following the diet that was made for me. I try to get my husband to eat the same meals with me to get me going in the right direction but it's not working. and there are some of the foods i don't like at all. I also have depression and a lot of stress, and i usually end up eating things that I shouldn't eat how do i get self control or set goals for myself? |
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Pat Roth |
Pat Roth replied September 21, 2009 6:55 AM
A hospital/s approach to a 1800 ADA diet/ with no medication for elevated BS. . Take perfectly good looking food, such as salmon and veggies, boiled until blander and listless, wring it out--dry--then scatter it delightfully over a large, plate, trying to make it look like you are a getting a healthy portion of the goop, look frantically at the condiment container for some sort of ZIP--of FLAVOR---tasteless salt, flat sugar, then with a whirl of cheap toothpaste and added toothpick, for zest, slurp 'er up!! Enjoy, as the other meals that follow will be similary "taste challeged!" It is a good way to deflect rising BS with no medication! HAHA__LOVE YOU GUYS!! PAT R
jigsaw replied September 21, 2009 8:22 PM Last edited 2 months ago Still the same silly lady! That's great!!!! Here's to a speedy, healthy recovery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Angie Rae |
Angie Rae replied September 24, 2009 8:09 AM
I DO NOT follow the ADA diet. It is HORRIBLE! They put way too much bread in it. If you eat bread too much, you will have consistently high blood sugars and gain weight. Try to eat more vegetables and meat. Try avoid bread and carbohydrates. They are HORRIBLE for you. I have had diabetes since I was 9 years old. I am 38 now and am not overweight, nor do I have any complications yet from my diabetes.....knock on wood. I work in an ICU as a nurse, and they things I see them put on the diabetics food tray, according to their "ADA" diet, appalls me. I think the health care industry has a lot to learn regarding caring for diabetic patients. Yes, we are all human and like a piece of chocolate or a cookie or something once in awhile, and that is fine. Just make sure you cover yourself with your insulin pump or shot, or whatever you take to make sure your blood sugar doesn't get too high. I am not talking about eating junk on a habitual basis, but if you must eat food that isn't good for you, at least cover yourself.
H.D. replied September 24, 2009 9:59 AM Well, I have no idea where to start except that I feel like an idiot. My doctor is just about useless when it comes to diabetes. He diagnosed me with diabetes then told me nothing. First he prescribed Janumet then he changed it to Janumet 50-1000, which is what I am on now. I have no idea what to eat (I’m just guessing, which is not working well). I'm not sure but I think one problem may be that I don't get hungry, I can go all day without eating. I just cannot understand eating when you are not hungry. Then I don’t even know what carbs. are more less how to count them. I’m in a mess and have no idea what to do except maybe schedule a visit with an endocrinologist and a nutritionist. I welcome any help that I can get.
jigsaw replied September 24, 2009 2:06 PM Last edited about 1 month ago H.D.--Dr. Atkins book The Atkins diet can fill you in as to what carbs are and what you need to know! There are many opinions pro and con about the Atkins Diet. I am not recommending the diet one way or another, thats for you to decide. Simply put, the book will educate you about carbs!!! Here are a few guide lines. Many processed foods are high in simple carbs. Examples of processed foods are cake, Pizza, bread, candies, pasta, cookies, and most manufatured foods! Your body rapidly converts simple carbs into glucose or sugar. Sugar is a 100% simple carb. On the other hand, there are complex carbs. They are much better because your body breaks them down much more slowly then simple carbs and you can thus help avoid the blood sugar highs and lows that are so damaging. A few examples and sources of complex carbs are vegetables, and fruits. Also there are foods with no carbs! Example, Meats, poultry and fish. Get familiar with the glycemic index also. It states the carb content of various foods and on a scale, how fast the body breaks it down. Hope this helps and gives you a good starting point!!!!
Pat Roth replied September 25, 2009 4:11 AM Are eggs bad for the kidneys? Since I now just have one kidney, I had better take care of it---am to start seeing Drs next week, hope I get better information as to what is important to eat and to avoid, than I have in the past!!! Hugs, Pat R
Anonymous replied September 26, 2009 3:01 AM I think you are going to be pleasantly surprised after you see your doctor. This because the loss of one kidney leaving you with one kidney means you should still have adequate renal function. Two kidneys gives us a spare. Think about the living related kidney donors -- they "sacrifice" one of their kidneys and live happily ever after with just one kidney and no dietary modifications.
Pat Roth replied September 26, 2009 1:43 PM Oh, thank you for your comments, they make sense. One reason I wondered was my mom was really "gone over the coals", because she served eggs to a kidney patient and was told to NEVER do that again, ( was in the 1940's )then I was served these mountains of softly, scrambled eggs every morning in the hospital----and i know from experience that just because they serve something, doesnt always mean that it is good for you to eat. Just wondering, about all I have time to do right now! Haha--Hugs, PR |
Nana Jones |
Nana Jones replied September 25, 2009 1:04 AM
I was never given any guidelines to follow. My doctor never discussed my diet just gave me brochures to read. I am disappointed with him because he never takes the time with me that he should. Everything I have learned is thru the internet.
lynn802 replied September 30, 2009 4:19 AM Nana:
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lynn802 |
lynn802 replied September 30, 2009 4:15 AM
Hi, John: I just found out last summer that I was a person with Type II Diabetes. Talk about shocked! I have been in so much denial about it even to this day. I try to eat good, but its just me here and its a little difficult to fix healthy meals for one person. Another thing I'm having real difficulty with, especially when stressed out, is reaching out for chocolate. I love chocolate and through the years, its been my little "comfort" food. I also have diabetic nerve pain (neuropathy) in both of my feet and it can be quite painful. I take medication for both the Diabetes and the nerve pain. This last year has been extremely stressful for me and the rest of my family - my mom got sick before last Thanksgiving. She had some kind of infection and I don't know the infection caused it, but she went into a state of dementia. She had to be put in a nursing home for rehabilitation to learn how to walk and eat by herself. She did a wonderful job doing it - she wanted to come home so very bad. She had one day to go before getting the go ahead from her doctor to go home, but she caught pneumonia that day and had to be hospitalized. When she was in the hospital, she contracted MRSA, which in the end was her death sentence. She fought a long, hard battle to keep alive. But, in the end, her poor little body couldn't fight anymore and she passed away on August 27, 2009. So, her illness, then her death, was so traumatic. You can imagine how much chocolate I've been through! I now go to a new doctor and there is an endocrinologist in the clinic that specializes in Diabetes. I'm hoping to get in to see that doctor. They also have a dietician there which I think will help. So, if you can get a group going to help each other out, please add me to the group. Thanks for listening to me.
Pat Roth replied September 30, 2009 3:54 PM HI, Lynn!! So sorry to hear of your mother's long fighting battle, but she won, in my eyes, as a FIGHTER to fight something that few know about, takes a special kind of stamina! Which makes you a fighter too! Oh, yes, the love of chocolate---also one of my weaknesses!! Instead of doing without, I allow myself a bite or two of the real thing, or there is sugar-free chocolate out there too. I discovered a bag of hard, choc-coffee candy to suck on----usually have trouble in hard candy as I like to "attack" my candy with my teeth---but am learning restraint too, as I suck on the lovely, brown stuff!
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forrest3s |
forrest3s replied October 26, 2009 12:28 AM
I have been a diabetic since 2006 and I really don't follow a diet. I just try to avoid candy and anything that has a lot of sugar in it. Every now and then I will cheat and eat something I have no business eating. But I do very well with my sugar levels even though I cheat sometimes. I thought it would be a good idea for me to join this site because I can hear what other diabetics have to say and hopefully find a good recipe that I might enjoy.
Pat Roth replied October 26, 2009 4:55 PM Welcome!! I also have cheated some, ate 3 home BAKED cookies over the week-end---tasted so good!!! Now I find it easier to stick to what I know is best---BS got up to 190 , took my 1/4 of Glipizide and 2 hrs later it was down to 123---am finding that since I am on Glipizide, I can eat more than I had been, in order to keep my BS up, was dropping down to 49--sweating---hungry----I am beginning to get the hang of this new med and the food intake and it sure helps to hear how others survive and adapt too!! And can admit their own discretions at times, and the world does not come to a shattering end!!
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Susie624 |
Susie624 replied November 9, 2009 7:17 PM
A little behind on this subject, but does anyone have a suggestion on how to keep you grandchildren from eating the special foods I get for myself. I can get the same thing for them but they will eat mine first.They are only 4,6 and 9 years old. |
I read about a study at the University of Alberta, which is looking into reasons why 2 out of 3 diabetics don't follow the diet recommendations from their doctors.
I like it when we hold our own "unscientific" studies here on Diabetic Connect. I think it would be interesting to share with each other the challenges of following a healthy eating plan.
So, will you share with us your thoughts about healthy eating? First of all, tell us if you feel like you *are* following your doctor's recommendations. If you are, tell us why you feel like it's working for you.
If you're *not* following the recommendations, is it that you are not sure what you are supposed to eat at all?
Is it that you disagree with your doctor's recommendations?
Is it that you don't like the foods that are recommended?
Do you feel like you're not sure how to cook healthier foods?
Are you always on the road, eating out, and simply don't have enough control over the food you eat?
Does your family make it hard for you to follow recommendations?
I think we can come together to identify a lot of the challenges. Then let's pull together ideas for dealing with those challenges and help each other eat healthier.