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diabetic autoimmune neurothapy

by Misery
May 19, 2008 6:39 AM
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Please somebody help me!! I've been told by a gastralogist that the nerves that
help to swallow are damaged by the neurothapy and he has sent me to a speech
pathologist that is supposed to help to swallow a different way. I went to him
and all he did was weigh me and told me get sugar free carnation instant
breakfast mix it with skim milk twice a day. Does anyone know if the damaged can
be repaired or is the outcome going to be what else I was told and that was
getting a feeding tube.


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taz202020 replied May 25, 2008 5:29 PM 

I don't know anything about this except I'd find another doctor. A neurologist
might be the person to talk with. I told mine I had some sensations in my feet,
hot and cold tingling, and she told me it was neuropathy. I'd really try to talk
to another doctor.

Ginetteb replied May 25, 2008 5:54 PM 

Honey, I feel for you. My husband is not diabetic, however, he had a squamous
cell carcenoma at the base of his tongue. It was a stage 4 and he was given 1
year tops to live. That was in May 1997. He got 60 radiation treatments and
although it saved his life, it did diminish his quality of life. One of the
side effects of so much is that it weakens or kills everything in its path. One
of them being the salava gland. He now has a perpetual dry mouth. The
radiation also burned the tongue, which is a muscle, and now, 11 years later, he
finds that he has more and more difficulty to swallow. In order for him to
avoid the feeding tube, we bought a "bullet" (that they advertised on TV and Bed
Bath and Beyond also carries them) and whatever he can't swallow, which is most
things, we put through the bullet. The taste is there but it's easier to
swallow.

I wish you luck. I have diabetes, but thank the Good Lord, I do not have
neuropathy anywhere, unless the crams I get in my legs and feet are a result of
diabetes. The more I read about diabetic prople on this site, the more I feel
lucky. I was diagnosed and went on insulin 14 years ago and I'm still holding
my own. I feel pretty lucky.

I wish you the same kind of luck. I suggest you choose another name though,
Misery is too gloomy. Take a happy uplifting one, you'll feel better with an
up-beat mood.

Ginette

Misery replied June 16, 2008 11:17 AM 

Thank you for sharing with me.I will keep the both of you in my prayers. What is
the Bullet??? I have never heard of it before. What exactly does it do and will
medicare pay for it? I don't think I can change my name.I think once you have
your name it stays....Diane

Ginetteb replied June 16, 2008 12:36 PM 

The "bullet" is a little food processor. Whatever you put in it, it almost
pulvarizes it, consequently, the food becomes like baby food, it's very smooth,
no chewing, just swallowing almost like water. It's easy to digest. I
personally think that for my husband it's the perfect solution.
Keep your chin up, Misery, and don't, never, give up. As miserable as it may
get at times, life is still worth living.
Let me know how you're doing. I will send you a message asking you to become a
friend. I hope you accept the invitation. We can e-mail each other that way in
a more private way.
Ginette

rj
rj
rj replied July 4, 2008 12:57 PM 

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I can't help but have a gut feeling that a second opinion is in order...I would
think some more test of some kind could be done to clarify your issue.. I have
neurapathy in my feet and legs in first stages i would be very appreciative if
you would keep my posted...is that the only area you have it

Misery replied July 4, 2008 4:15 PM 

I have neurothapy in my legs, feet and stomach.

jupton1 replied July 5, 2008 7:52 AM 

I have neurothapy in my feet & fingers,it seem like it get bad when my sugar
gets over 150..John

butterfly_8 replied July 5, 2008 9:10 AM 

I have been referred to a Vascular Doctor because of declining circulation or
possible nerve damage. I cannot imagine surgery since nothing heals properly not
even little scratches. All of this info is very important to me.

micksmixxx
micksmixxx
micksmixxx replied July 5, 2008 11:34 AM 

Hi Misery,

Please accept my apologies for how long it's taken me to respond to your
question.

The condition is actually called autonomic neuropathy. It affects the bodily
systems that are normally dealt with automatically. It can affect such things
as blood pressure, heart rate, temperature control, swallowing (as you've
noticed), emptying of stomach contents, sexual function, bowel and bladder
control, and a whole multitude of other things.

Sadly, there is no cure for autonomic neuropathy. The only advice my
gastroenterologist and endocrinologist have been able to offer is to maintain as
near 'normal' blood sugar levels as possible .... and that means long-term, not
just for a week or two.

I'm so sorry to hear how this is affecting you. It's not pleasant at all.

I can understand where your gastroenterologist is coming from with his
suggestion of sugar free Carnation instant breakfast and skimmed milk. He's
obviously attempting to control your blood sugar levels without telling you what
he's doing. Sadly, that doesn't deal with getting the food down your oesophagus
[esophagus] in the first place.

The only thing I can advise there is, if it's really getting difficult to
swallow solid foods, is to liquify your foods. i.e. place it in a blender and
mash it up until it's really more like a liquid than a solid.

I know it sounds awful, but one thing that I used to do for people who suffered
in a similar way, was to massage the food down. It's rather difficult as the
oesophagus [esophagus] is behind the tube that you feel at the front of your
throat. That's the trachea ... the thing that you breathe through. If you do
apply pressure to this and sort of stroke it down, however, it does help with
swallowing.

Unfortunately, if you aren't able to manage feeding yourself in this way there
are only two ways, that I know of, that you can be helped. The first is a nasal
gastric tube, which goes up your nose, and down your throat into your stomach,
or a tube directly into the stomach ... neither of which, I would imagine, would
be very appealing to you.

Of course, your sustenance would have to come from liquid feeds using either of
these methods.

I do hate to be the bearer of such bad news, dear lady, but you asked the
question.

I truly hope that things never actually get to such a stage for you.

Be well.

Lots of Love and Light.

Mick
x x x x
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P.S. Please don't be offended, or alarmed, at the "x's". It's simply a logo, of
sorts, that I've used for some 30-odd years now.

Misery replied July 5, 2008 12:44 PM 

Thank You,
I'm not offended if I ddn't really want a true answer I never would have
asked. I appreciate you being so candid about it. You're the first one to really
come out and tell me the truth.That is what I wanted all along. I'd rather know
than no know. Again thank you so much.
Diane