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Thanksgiving Menu

by apanda
November 15, 2008 4:18 PM
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This will be my first Thanksgiving since being diagnosed with diabetes. I am really careful to watch my diet very closely. I'm really bummed out that I can no longer eat any of my "traditional favorites". No more stuffing with chestnuts, no more mashed potatoes and gravy, no more brandied/candied sweet potatoes, no more cranberries, no more traditional desserts....sigh. What do you eat when you can only have three carb servings at a meal??????? It seems to me the only thing left of my Thanksgiving dinner is the turkey, and that is the part I really dont like! :( I need suggestions please. What are you all eating?????


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Diabetic Connect Member caspersmama
caspersmama
caspersmama replied November 15, 2008 4:23 PM 

I am having sprial sliced ham, baked spinach casserole, roasted green beans with cherry tomatoes. potato salad for my hubby and a sugar free rasberry cheescake for dessert. Maybe a little high in carbs and fat but it is Thanksgiving.

Diabetic Connect Member Bluebutterfly
Bluebutterfly
Bluebutterfly replied November 15, 2008 4:30 PM 

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I am going to have for Thanksgiving Dinner,Turkey and dressing,patato salad,green beans,corn on the cob,brocalli casserole, I will have pumpkin pie and german choclate cake. I will have just a small amount of my favorites. Then I will do the same for supper. I will have too much to eat by then. I will go to the pool Friday and do extra laps. I think it is ok to have small amounts of your favorites after all it is Thanksgiving.

Diabetic Connect Member nancyh
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nancyh replied November 15, 2008 6:06 PM 

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for thanksgiving i will have the white meat of the turkey and mashed yams with a little butter on them, whole grain stuffing,a mixed vegie and fruit salad and my favorite pie at thanksgiving=PUMPKIN PIE with a little bit of coolwhip! i too think if you have a little bit of everything its ok remember you can eat almost anything as long as it is in moderation so enjoy and have A HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!

Diabetic Connect Member Deleted User
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Deleted User replied November 15, 2008 6:59 PM 

You can have carbs at Thanksgiving, just not so much. Practice ahead of time with a measuring cup so you know how much you can have of your favorites. I'd rather have a little of them than none at all. :) Diabetes doesn't mean depriving yourself of your favorite things, it means learning to include them in your diet on special occasions by using smaller portions. Good luck

Diabetic Connect Member dj7110
dj7110
dj7110 replied November 15, 2008 7:13 PM 

I'm a type 2 insulin dependent.. this is the one I time I will be cheating on my diet, but take the extra insulin to make up for it. I take humalog with my meals and the amount is based on my current meter reading plus carbs I'm eating in my meal. So hopefully the insulin I take will offset me threw this day fine. David

John Crowley replied November 17, 2008 6:36 PM 

I had never thought of this before, but why shouldn't every diabetic have an insulin pen for Thanksgiving day? It seems so simple that doctors could just say, "Look, we know this is a holiday built all around food. Here's a humalog pen, here's how to use it and how to count your carbohydrates in the meal." Not to use it as a license to just eat whatever you want, but as a way to cover the "extra" that seems to be a part of the holiday.

Just a thought.

apanda replied November 18, 2008 1:06 PM 

John, I think would be a wonderful idea!! Do you think you could get your idea passed by..Oh....say, next Thursday??????? lol

John Crowley replied November 18, 2008 3:13 PM 

If only I had the power! :-)

apanda replied November 18, 2008 5:44 PM 

Hey! I'd vote for you!! ;)

Debe Pendice replied November 18, 2008 5:59 PM 

I say John Crowley next President!!!!!(LOL)......Debe

dj7110 replied November 21, 2008 3:59 AM 

make that a vote for ya here too ;-) I know many worry about going on to shots. but with the humalog it's a fast acting insulin and can be given in small enough doses to cover for the extra carbs taken. and would be a great alternative to all on this special day.

tmana replied November 24, 2008 2:05 PM 

There's no reason to start insulin if you are well-controlled by diet and exercise or by oral medications. Allie Beatty has mentioned some issues with analog insulin destroying remaining beta cell function, which makes me wary of taking insulin if not otherwise needed.

When I was first diagnosed, my doctor said that for the rare occasion, I could indulge (in moderation) and just realize I might run higher for a day or so.

That being said, a combination of moderation, healthier recipes, and accepting temporarily higher blood glucose levels is often the best method for those of us with Type 2.

John Crowley replied November 24, 2008 5:23 PM 

You know what, you're absolutely right. The perspective from the type 1 side of the fence sometimes makes me forget that insulin isn't the end solution for everyone.

Diabetic Connect Member kdroberts
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kdroberts replied November 15, 2008 10:12 PM 

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I believe we will be cooking turkey, squash, yams, potatoes, green beans and sauteed mushrooms. You just have to prepare them so you are not adding extra carbs, like mashed yams with some butter/margarine rather than candied yams, and then make sure you know what portion size to eat.

Something people often overlook at big meals like this is the timing. Usually people have the highest tolerance for carbs later in the day so you may be able to push your 45g up a little and not see any increase in numbers. But also, special meals like this are usually a long affair which is good as well. If you eat all your carbs in a 15 minute window then they will pretty much increase your blood sugar at the same time. If you spread them out over say an hour or two then you have less carb but for a longer time which may leave you with a low but longer increase in blood sugar. Maybe take a plate of food with a small amount of carb on, eat that and when others go up for more you go up and eat another small serving of carb and then maybe even a third time. Do an experiment a few times. Make some mashed potatoes and eat 30g of carb worth and check your blood sugar after 1 and 2 hours. Then do the same but eat 15g of potatoes, sit around talking for a bit and then have another serving of 15g and check your blood sugar 1, 2 and 3 hours after the first bite. It may set you on the path to work out how your body works with food and the best way to 'trick' it so you can eat happily and have good numbers doing so.

One thing has always fascinated me about Americans when I'm at a buffet and I don't understand why people do it. I see people go down the line and just pile their plate up with everything regardless of if it goes together, especially at breakfast buffets, like fruit, bacon, eggs, waffle, pasta salad all on one plate. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to put it all on your plate at the same time, you can serve yourself as many times as you want and there is no minimum portion. It's the same way with meals at home, just because it's on the table doesn't mean you have to put it on your plate all at once. You can take as many trips up there as you like and come back with as small amount of food as you like. Diabetes means you have to train yourself to think differently about eating in general. Not just what you eat but how you eat it as well.

You also have to remember that one day of slightly elevated numbers won't kill you, they will go up higher than normal but will come back down if your treatment is working. You may find that your fasting number doesn't even change but you went a little high after dinner. However, you still have to be in control and not make it a habit and most importantly, be comfortable doing that. Some people can do it, some people can't. Some people don't think it's worth it, some people do. You have to figure out which one you are first.

apanda replied November 15, 2008 11:36 PM 

Thanks kd. I do forget that one time of having my numbers higher wont kill me. I am still pretty new to all of this diabetes stuff and so I have maybe been a bit "over diligent" about what I eat and following the diet. Also, I have never been a turkey person as I am not a meat eater, so the sides are really what makes the meal for me, and it seems that all the "really good" sides are also the ones that are all carbs at a Thanksgiving meal. lol Not sure what I will do just yet. I am thinking I may pretend it's just another day and skip all of those special dishes entirely. Eating just a little spoonful of each is too much of a tease for me I guess.....or should I say temptation to want more.
Thanks everyone for your respones. It doesnt seem that anyone has any special recipes to make the good stuff still taste like the good stuff but be more diet friendly.

Diabetic Connect Member Gabby
Gabby
Gabby replied November 16, 2008 12:07 AM 

The key to a great holiday is to make options. If you are like us, we have people who are not diabetic and expect the mashed potatoes and corn. The crescent rolls and the pecan pie. So we also make sure there are items on the table that are friendly, but don't scream "DIET!!!"

A kind of non traditonal thing I have found that also makes you eat less, is if you serve it buffet style. If people have to get up from the table to go gather more food, we are less inclined to keep nibbling at what is on the table. I am always playing mind games.

The other thing too, is to serve on your fine china. You will typically find that a dinner plate is MUCH smaller than your everyday plates. Smaller plates are a good thing.

I make my own cranberry sauce and I use lots of cinnamon, some apples and xylitol for the sweet. That works really well, and then relish it up with some walnuts or something. It is more like a chuttney, than a sauce.

Roast the turkey with a blend of olive oil and butter. that cuts the butter a good bit, but still gives you that flavor. I spice up my turkey with a rub of sage, cinnamon, nutmeg, salt, rosemary, and anything else you desire. I rub it all over the turkey with some of the butter. We use a blend that has omega 3 in it. This makes the skin very golden brown, Oh, smells so good.

We also portion our stuffing. My mom always made her stuffing into one scoop balls (about 1/2c each) and baked them using the juices from the turkey for moistness. This keeps you from "digging" in, and you also don't have to have a measuring cup on the table. We also make ours from scratch, so we know what is in it.

We bake our sweet potatoes and let people put on them what they want. We make a cinnamon sugar butter for those who want it, but if you don't, just use some nutmeg and cinnamon with your butter. Or just salt and pepper.

I started a new tradition last year, and make a soup for the meal. I have posted a wonderful cream of cauliflower soup here on the site. It will be on our menu this year. Last year I did a carrot soup that was wonderful with ginger in it. These are special and friendly. No one will feel like they are missing out on anything.

We don't typically serve wine for our meal, but coffee is a must. Don't waste your carbs of coffee creamers, offer some real cream and a dash of spice. What we do is use flavored coffees, and then the plain cream or milk (I use soy milk in mine) just adds to the flavor.

Deserts are still sweet here, but I can skip the pacan pie (my husbands favorite) and go for some pumpkin custard. Or I have made pumpkin cheesecake. Xylitol works great in that, and it is so rich, no one will notice the missing sugar.

Steam some broccoli and garnish them with some toasted almonds.

Sear some green beans with some balsamic vinegar and garlic, these are posted on the site and they are yummy. Add a different falvor to your table.

There are all kinds of ways to make a healthy thanksgiving meal. The real problem is knowing when to stop eating.

Diabetic Connect Member sparkysmom
sparkysmom
sparkysmom replied November 16, 2008 12:18 AM 

We are having sandwiches (ezekiel bread) for Thanksgiving. My Hubby is smoking a turkey and I will make oven baked yam fries and cranberry sauce. Our big family dinner will be in SC this year at Christmas.

Gabby replied November 16, 2008 12:29 AM 

I love oven baked sweet potato fries. There is a recipe here that I posted that has great spices and a drizzle of agave on it that is to die for. I love that spice and sweet. You can do that with carrots too. Yummy

Diabetic Connect Member apanda
apanda
apanda replied November 16, 2008 2:43 AM 

Gabby, can you please post your cranberry recipe. That would help me out a great deal. I love cranberries and I know I will really be missing them . I need a more diabetic friendly recipe and yours sounds pretty good. Thanks.

Gabby replied November 16, 2008 5:06 PM 

I don't have the nutritional value right now, so I will post it here for now.

1 Bag fresh cranberries
1C xylitol
1C water
2 apples (sweet or tart is up to you)
2t Cinnamon
1/4t Nutmeg
1/4t Cloves
1/2C Walnuts

In a Medium sauce pan, combine cranberries, water and xylitol. While that is cooking over a medium heat, core and dice your apples. Keep the skin on. Mix in the apples and your spices and cook down to where you have a thickened sauce that is very chunky. Watch your pot, because it can foam up and it will make a mess if you let it boil over.

Chop your walnuts and either mix them in or use them as a garnish on top when you serve your sauce.

An option is to replace the apples with oranges. That is what I used to do, but this year I am going to keep it a little safer with the apples.

You can get xylitol from the health food store. I don't use artificial sweeteners. Xylitol has the most similar texture to sugar, and it keeps its sweet in cooking.

Enjoy! I know I plan to.

apanda replied November 16, 2008 11:12 PM 

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Thanks Gabby. That will help me feel more like it's Thanksgiving! :)

apanda replied November 16, 2008 11:12 PM 

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Edited for duplicate post. Sorry.

Diabetic Connect Member enigmalady777
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enigmalady777 replied November 17, 2008 5:04 AM 

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My traditional Thanksgiving really doesn't have to change too much - we always had turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, baked yams (plain, without added butter or brown sugar), steamed asparagus or broccoli and green bean casserole (it's low carb to begin with). Dessert was always pumpkin pie that only I would eat (nobody else in my family likes it).

So this year I'm still going to make the turkey and the stuffing, the green bean casserole, the baked yams (plain as always), steamed asparagus or broccoli and instead of mashed potatoes, I'm going to make mashed cauliflower - probably that yummy recipe that was posted here on this site today.

We'll skip the pumpkin pie since nobody at all will eat it. I'm going to look for a good low carb substitute dessert. I'm sure I can find one.

Debe Pendice replied November 17, 2008 12:24 PM 

Try The Pumpkin Mousse in the recipe section. I tryed it. I thought it was yummy. I am going to make this in idiviual desset cups with some non dairy whipped topping.......Debe

apanda replied November 17, 2008 10:05 PM 

enigma...I forgot about the mashed cauliflower to replace mashed potatoes, and I have a really good recipe that uses low fat cream cheese to make it extra rich tasting without the extra calories. Thanks for the reminder!! Now I have the mock mashed potatoes, and Gabby's reduced sugar cranberries. Im gonna make my usual fresh green beans with mushrooms and baby onions. I have been playing with fresh sweet potatoes, splenda, cinnamon and nutmeg. It isnt the quite the same as the real thing, but it will be a suitable substitue. Now, if I can just figure out how to make that chestnut stuffing low carb I will feel much more in the holiday spirit. I was to see my doc today and he increased my meds so I know that I won't feel like I have to be so precise with every bite next Thursday.
See, I knew all I had to do was ask and you guys would come thru with some ideas for me. :) Thanks everyone.

Gabby replied November 18, 2008 12:11 AM 

Since you are experimenting, try some agave nectar with your sweet potatoes. That is similar to honey, but without the spike. It is low glycemic and might be the trick to getting the sweet touch you are looking for.

apanda replied November 18, 2008 1:13 PM 

Gabby, I will try the agave nectar. I was just looking at it last week in the organics section at the grocery. It was a little expensive to buy without having a plan to use it. Maybe it will do the trick. Thanks.

Gabby replied November 18, 2008 2:21 PM 

I use agave in all kinds of things. Tea, veggies, sauces, dressings....anywhere you need sugar you can use this. The falvor is light and the carbs are friendly. Once I tried it, I was hooked.

Diabetic Connect Member BeckyJ
BeckyJ
BeckyJ replied November 17, 2008 9:29 PM 

This year's Thanksgiving is going to be a lot smoother because of some of the recipes that I found at allrecipes.com. We are still going to try traditional turkey dinner & sides but will have to change up a little since I am on a low-sugar-low salt,low-carb and low-protein diet....very hard. Last year was our first experiment with the buffet style and it worked FAB as long as I used a dessert plate. But just like everyone says moderation counts. I have also found out that the sugar free whipped cream from Cool Whip is actually quite tasty and will be using that to have on my sliver of pumpkin pie.

caspersmama replied November 17, 2008 9:56 PM 

I love allrecipes.com. alot of good recipes. Also if you add an extract, like almond to the cool whip it makes it better tasting.

Diabetic Connect Member Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice replied November 18, 2008 3:32 AM 

There will be 7 of us. We are doing different this year. My mother is baking 10 skinless-boneless stuffed chicken breast(4oz). Harvest roasted vegetables, cool cumber salad, giant tossed salad,Aparagus, pumpkin mousse, custard with nutmeg. Then of couse some of the regular stuff. Including mashed potatoes, gravy made with corn starch,etc.
We are doing the individuals this year because my family will help feed the needy after church. We have missed the last 3 years dur to my hospitalization. We feel this is the year to give back. Happy Thanksgiving everone!!!!...Debe

Gabby replied November 18, 2008 3:51 AM 

So cool that you guys do that. I know how important it is to feel that connection. So glad you actually get to spend it home this year. You better stay healthy for a couple more weeks, no bailing out in the end!!

uncgrad80 replied November 22, 2008 4:28 PM 

Splenda.com has some excellent recipes for desserts using Splenda. I have found you can eat "regular" food as long as you watch how much of it you eat. For example, I don't care for mashed potatoes so I might eat a little, but not a lot. I loathe sweet potatoes and they don't come in my house. Just make sure you get plenty of exercise to offset what you eat. And eat salads the day before and the day after ;-).

caspersmama replied November 22, 2008 5:41 PM 

Exactly, it is all about portions. You can really eat almost anything but watch the portions. After Thanksgiving lunch we will be taking puppy to the park then that night we are going to the movies to see "Four Christmas" and I plan on having my popcorn.

Diabetic Connect Member gsalem3633
gsalem3633
gsalem3633 replied November 22, 2008 5:52 PM 

One bad day is allowable as long as you don't over do it.

uncgrad80 replied November 22, 2008 6:14 PM 

I forgot to add earlier--alot is about preparation. Instead of butter, use chicken broth in your mashed potatoes. I never made stuffing with chestnuts but, nuts are supposed to be very good for you and help keep your sugar stablized. Just try to go the whole grain direction instead of the white bread. You can still count carbs. And if you do pig out on one meal, just don't eat a lot at the other meals. You ate 6 carbs for T-giving dinner? No problem, eat none at another to balance it out. You learn what you can eat without affecting your sugar. For example, pizza does not faze my husband. But pick up an Arby's regular roast beef and it goes up. We are all different so if you notice what makes yours go up, you can try to avoid it.

Diabetic Connect Member Lisa Ann
Lisa Ann
Lisa Ann replied November 22, 2008 6:18 PM 

This too is my first thanksgiving since dx and I'm really worrid I go over board, but my husband and kids keep an eye on me when I eat. My oldest daughter is 18 and is a waitress and when I go eat where she works she won't let me order anything bad for me( she watches me close, doesn't want to lose her mommy! lol) My in-laws are also diabetic so they don't have too much high carb stuff for thanksgiving dinner so everything should be good.

Connie4849 replied November 22, 2008 8:08 PM 

My entire family except for one sister is diabetic to one degree or another. So for Thanksgiving I will provide a turkey with 12 grain homemade dressing. I had some earlier this week. My BG did not spike! (You make it just like you would any other dressing--celery, lots of onion, Benson's salt free spices for poultry, a little butter, no carrots, and some shredded chicken for protein.) I'll have green beans, broccoli, salad, cucumbers, green squash and any other green veggie that's on sale. Notice that I'll have lots of veggies. I always have sugar free jello, pumpkin pie, and I avoid mashed potatoes. I may bake one for my sister who is not diabetic. No sugar added vanilla ice cream is popular too. At least we won't go into a sugar coma at the party with our menu. Blessings to you all. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Connie4849 Still off metformin A1c 5.6

Diabetic Connect Member cm
cm
cm replied November 22, 2008 8:42 PM 

This will also be my first Thanksgiving since being diagnosed with diabetes. I will continue to make all the same foods as always, only I will be counting my Carbs. I have already looked up calories and carbs for all the foods I will be making, so I think I will be alright as long as I stick to counting carbs. Since I always try counting carbs and eating only the amount I am allowed per meal, I should be fine. Although, this year I will be skipping the pumpkin pie.
Good luck to everyone.

Diabetic Connect Member maggie56g
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maggie56g replied November 22, 2008 11:00 PM 

I will suggest to you that part of your thanksgiving dinner you can eat. Let's say you want the mashed potatoes that is okay with a small amount of gravy but go without the dressing and the candied yams. The best way to do your meal is as follows Turkey a dessert dish of dressing, an ice cream scoop of mashed potatoes, with cranberry sauce check sugar level in sauce then maybe some green beans, or a small salad with vinegar and oil dressing. Save that piece of pumpkin pie for a small snack before bed.

Diabetic Connect Member NormaJean
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NormaJean replied November 24, 2008 5:07 PM 

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Dear Apanda it's Thanksgiving,I know you're worried about your diet but you can have a little bit of each of your fave foods,it'll just be for one day sweetie.I'm having a bit of everything,and so what if my numbers are high for one day that's ok by me.I have 3 small meals a day so I will divide my carbs and try and even it out ,being diabetic doesn't mean we can't have the foods that we like to eat,just in moderation.

caspersmama replied November 24, 2008 5:13 PM 

Me too and when we go to the movies I am having a small popcorn and cherry coke. It is Thanksgiving and then I do not be bad till Christmas. LOL Yeah Right!!!!!

Diabetic Connect Member patti
patti
patti replied November 25, 2008 5:03 PM 

I makae a tradional Thanksgiving dinner turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, squash, gravy and corn. I make my potatoes with the skins on and use the water I boiled them in and add butter. I used cornstartch for my gravy. I eat only the turkey and squash, but I also make a salad for myself. Wishing everyone a Happy and safe Thanksgiving.