Like "Don't give up Susan, you seem like such a nice devoted member to your family and I might also add that you are a very valued member of this conection, You have made us laugh and even cry when you share your stories, Please don't ever give up hope.It sounds like you had a relly arrogent vas, Surg.Please keep trying until you make the right connection with the doctor who is right for you, God bless you darlin, keep your faith and stay after them until you have a ligitment reason for the pain you are suffering with, Take Care Always Lucie "