Like "I am almost catching that the value of the governing bodies require different things and numbers vary ...hmmm, that is a bit mushy for me to understand but believe I am injesting what you are saying. draco I am on sliding scale and have only had diabetes for 5 yrs or so and really would like to find a diabetic counselor or it may be different name. I have heard that you can learn so much by groups of people getting together and discuss what they feel and also learn by others and what they do in order to live each day feeling somewhat ok.. I still am where flustrated is only several yrs living with sliding scale and highs and not getting lows any time soon )- I have been working at it and even been taking time to eat and enjoy and give my body time to except food. "