help me please

By LUVTETE Latest Reply 2011-04-05 09:46:10 -0500
Started 2011-03-04 12:36:52 -0600

I have been dieting and taking my blood sugar for the last two days the other day I went to the doctors and my blood sugar was 430. I have been eating nothing but fruits, veggies and meats for the last two days. This morning I took my meds that the doctor prescribed which is three pills to lower my blood sugar. Now mind you last night I had a bowl of cherrios with a banana and ideal sugar ( sugar substitute) for my dessert and it was at 9:30 pm. I woke up at 9:30 and my blood sugar was 190 ish and when I went to eat lunch this afternoon at 12:00pm I checked my blood sugar and it was 319 ish all I had this morning was two cups of coffee with creamer and Ideal. why is my blood sugar so high?

42 replies

northerngal 2011-04-05 09:46:10 -0500 Report

Fruits, veggies and most cereals have a lot of carbs. Check how many each meal contains because the medication sounds like it needs to be adjusted to compensate. FYI exercise with a high bs can actually raise it. Hope this helps.

1cookie :)
1cookie :) 2011-04-05 01:32:48 -0500 Report

Try to sprinkle a bit of cinnamon on your oatmeal and any other foods..Ilike it on my sweet potatos. You can also use a pill form.

greenfrogs 2011-03-21 07:39:51 -0500 Report

I find that excising work , if you can"t use machines at a gym , then walk , housework, gardening. eat speical K ceral two times a day , then dinner, no sweets, no white bread, no or a small amount of starchs, lots of water, do not eat after 7pm. stick to this for 10 striaght days and it will become a habit. bake fish, chicken wthout the skin, steamed vegs. fruit and water. use small plate not a dinner plate.

milesrf 2011-03-20 10:25:17 -0500 Report

Looks like you need to ask your doctor to arrange a test for how much insulin your pancreas is still producing. Readings that high often indicate that it has stopped entirely, and learning to inject insulin is more useful than changing your diet.

Something to read on the overnight increase in your readings:

I believe the Somogyi syndrome is also related to this, but have lost the relevant links.

Has your doctor given you the obsolete advice to avoid sugar entirely, but eat plenty of starchy foods? If so, it was based on the idea that complex carbohydrates always digest slowly, and therefore do not raise your blood glucose as high, and this is so obvious that no scientific research is needed to check if it is correct. Well, guess what - the research was finally done anyway, and showed that there is actually a wide range of how fast complex carbohydrates digest. Some digest about as fast as table sugar, and into the same simple sugars - and therefore the same results on your readings. Some white products, such as bread, rice, corn, and Irish potatoes fall into this category. For brown breads, the speed varies - depends on how small the grains were ground, and whether molasses residue was used to give more brown color. Sweet potatoes and cooked dried beans actually digest slowly, so you may want to try them. Some carbohydrates digest so slowly that you get little from them but the bacteria in your large intestine might get more; these are known as fibers.

LUVTETE 2011-03-19 21:35:44 -0500 Report

Thank you all very much my blood sugar has been doing alot better I think I just had to wait a few weeks for the meds to get into my system… You all are wonderful…

whitetigress 2011-03-17 20:30:42 -0500 Report

As I mentioned in a previous post … you might want to eliminate fruit all together until your numbers are stable and stay within the healthy range. Fruit is very high in sugar (fructose) … it may be natural but not the best choice when you are trying to stabilize your bs. I stopped eating fruit for 2 months in order to stabilize mine. It works. It may sound drastic but believe me, you will not be harmed by not having it.

LUVTETE 2011-03-17 20:33:42 -0500 Report

well I got some cantalaupe and watermelon and strawberries for me to eat…I haven't been eating alot of fruit totally quit eating bananas and no apples…

whitetigress 2011-03-17 21:50:31 -0500 Report

:) Watermelon is high glycemic so it will shoot your numbers up. I would have some fruit with large flake oatmeal (not the instant stuff). The other thing is, if you are going to eat fruit, eat it at the end of the meal after you have eaten protein and fiber. The best choice is the strawberries … have it with cereal or something else. and should help … both of these list the glycemic index of foods by group: low, medium, high. Choosing from the low g.i. is the healthiest choices.

I know it's frustrating and it is easy to feel helpless.

jayabee52 2011-03-17 22:04:57 -0500 Report

Better yet instead of the "large flake" ( old fashioned ?) oatmeal, have some steel cut (aka Irish Oats) instead. It takes longer to cook but is lower in glycemic value. Doesn't raise your BG#s as high as quickly.

pixsidust 2011-03-20 01:47:47 -0500 Report

My friend says when you eat strawberries limit yourself to 4. Apples have more fiber and less sugar than other fruits. The oats are at most major chain grocery stores but sold separately from the other hot cereals Just ask where they keep the Bobs Red Mill Brand. In one store its in the flour aisle and another in the organic section so just ask

tjaxxson 2011-03-15 00:41:42 -0500 Report

coffee affects ur blood sugar 9 in some people drink less and make it weaker than u normally would

LUVTETE 2011-03-17 20:24:27 -0500 Report

I only drink two cups of coffee a day…I started getting a sugar free french vanilla creamer and my blood sugar isn't as high

momwithdogz1 2011-03-08 21:24:40 -0600 Report

I have found that if I eat fiber (cucumers, lettuce, even certain olives ) my BS will go down. I can't see anything you did wrong though so please ask your dr. Good Luck and God Bless you.

WendyFR 2011-03-08 21:09:09 -0600 Report

You may need to write down everything that is happening and write your portions down and talk to your doctor and nutritionist, to see what is going on and work on something that will work for you. Sometime pills may not be enough for you or you may need something stornger, I don't really know. Everyone's body is different and reacts differently to different medicines.

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-03-06 09:21:08 -0600 Report

Like KD said you need to eat better for Diabetes. Also you might want to have more than just coffee for breakfast, I was reading something the other day that said skipping meals when taking Metformin (Glucophage) can actually make your blood sugar go high. Which might explain why your morning number was high but your lunch number was much, much worse. Though it could be the creamer you had too, those things are loaded with sugar.

realsis77 2011-03-05 12:59:51 -0600 Report

Kd explained it perfectly! I was struggling with extremly high numbers! Learning to eat correctly and insulin helped me get my numbers under control. I never thougt id be able to say this but its true my numbers now are actually close to perfect! I take a 24 hour insulin in the morning called lantus then I take humulin R insulin for meals and now I'm in control! I'm so happy to be able to say that cause before I struggled with numbers in the 400 range. I feel sooo much better now I have my numbers under control! I thank God for my insulin! I wish you the very best! God bless!

LUVTETE 2011-03-05 13:53:03 -0600 Report

Okay so this morning I had an small apple cut up and a small spoon of peanut butter and before I ate my lunch my number was 299 I cannot believe this hopefully this medicine starts working soon how long does it take to start working?

realsis77 2011-03-05 14:24:32 -0600 Report

Hi dear. The medicine NEVER started working for me. I needed insulin. Sometimes pills and diet doesn't work . It just depends on the person. Don't let insulin scare you. Its been a God send for me! My numbers are now perfect! I tried pills but they just didn't work for me! If you ever need to talk I'll be here for you! You sound like your going through what I did before I got put on insulin. Id go talk to my doctor and see what he says.I wish you the best of luck and God bless!

kdroberts 2011-03-04 12:57:05 -0600 Report

It's quite easy to see why you are having problems, it's sad that your doctor didn't explain how food works with diabetes.

Basically cheerios and a banana is a pretty awful meal for a diabetic since it's almost 100% carbohydrate. Carbohydrates are what raises blood sugar, sugar itself is just one of many sources of carbohydrate. In order to keep your blood sugar in a good range you need to eat what works for you, balance meals and eat on a regular basis. You may have been able to eat either the banana OR the cheerios if you had eaten something like cheese or meat with them. You need to eat protein and fat every time you eat, that will help slow down the speed carbohydrates are absorbed and also make you feel satisfied for longer. You also need to limit carbohydrate intake. Since your numbers are going quite high I would suggest starting at a max of 30g of carb per meal and 10-15g at snacks. This may need to be tweaked depending on what medications you take. It takes a while to learn what works for you but if you test blood sugar before and a couple of hours after eating you will start to see what shoots your blood sugar up and what doesn't. A rise in blood sugar is normal but ideally you want to keep that rise under 40 points. Again, it's not going to happen overnight but with some work you will be able to figure it out.

Now, the flip side. Your body stores literally pounds of sugar and if you don't eat it will start releasing it in large quantities. So, your not eating for almost 15 hours certainly sent your body into overdrive. You have to eat regularly, if your meals are more than 3-4 hours or so apart you need to eat a small snack between them. Try to eat something at least every 3 hours or so, overnight excluded.

What medications you take may also be a reason. Some take a long time to start working and some may have little impact depending on what's happening with your body. Which ones are you taking?

GabbyPA 2011-03-08 21:15:22 -0600 Report

KD, do you know if our bodies will get rid of the excess sugar we store if we get good control over time?

kdroberts 2011-03-08 21:39:14 -0600 Report

No, its supposed to be stored, its used pretty much 24/7. The problem is the mechanisms for when and how its used don't work right in diabetics. a classic example is when you eat your pancreas is supposed to signal your liver to stop releasing glucose but in diabetic this often doesn't happen.

GabbyPA 2011-03-08 21:41:52 -0600 Report

I know this is why my numbers are high in the morning, but I was hoping there would be a way to kind of clean out some of the excess in there from years of poor eating habits.

kdroberts 2011-03-08 21:47:10 -0600 Report

Thats another good example, the system is broken and using what's there (and should be there) in the wrong way.

LUVTETE 2011-03-04 21:25:00 -0600 Report

I just started them on wednesday and one of them is glucophage, actos and glyburide…I am also taking cinnamon pills four of them a day…

momwithdogz1 2011-03-08 21:33:05 -0600 Report

I don't know about any of them except glucohage, sorry I so wish I could help more. That answer though from KD was very good, maybe you could try that.

mkhojh99 2011-03-06 09:39:34 -0600 Report

watch actos for any kind of swelling or weight gain…it does not agree with everyone. It did NOT agree with me at all and it was awful. I eat a store brand high fiber cinnamon oatmeal in the am it helps with morning hunger as well as everything else. Thats just what i happen to do