Leg Cramps and Numb in Feets and toes feel awful

Beverlydolls
By Beverlydolls Latest Reply 2011-03-08 21:37:55 -0600
Started 2011-02-28 17:01:16 -0600

There is times i have Leg Cramps and sometimes my feet is Numb and my Toes feel Awful and I been trying to keep lotion on them and it doesnt seem to work… Does anyone know what i can do stop leg cramps too???? Thanks so much for anyone time… Beverly


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WendyFR
WendyFR 2011-03-08 21:37:55 -0600 Report

I use to get the leg cramps, my doctor told me to make sure to drink plenty of water. I get numbness in my feet and hands when I put pressure on it too long. It usually goes away. But whatever Dr. Kuethe stated sounds good.

Dr. Kuethe
Dr. Kuethe 2011-03-08 18:03:41 -0400 Report

I have noticed that when my blood sugars are running a little high, I can get some mild cramping due to ketones. The ketones raise the acidity of the blood and throws off your bodies pH, sometimes causing muscle cramps. Numbness is usually the sign of either a nerve or vascular problem. If it is nerve I would see either a chiropractor or neurologist to evaluate whether an adjustment can help with any nerve deficits. If it is vascular check with a cardiologist and also compression socks may help. Stay Well!

courtcat79
courtcat79 2011-03-06 22:24:27 -0600 Report

yeah that's the only bad thing about banana's. My sugars have been running too low so banana's do a good thing for me. My dr said that half of a banana is fine. I had the beginning stages of CKD and had to do the whole diet thing. I was diagnosed with it in the summer and also have severe heat intolerance and need to drink a lot of water bc my body dehydrates faster than normal. I could only drink a quart and a half of water daily, and that included food items that had a high content of water in them as well. I wish you the best of luck and support. :D

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-06 22:49:23 -0600 Report

I had ESRD and was on dialysis for a while (Kidney infection - was unconscious on bedroom floor for 5 or 6 days though it seemed like only 1 to me). Fortunately the infection resolved and I was able to come off dialysis (still have the vascular plumbing reroute so I can go back on dialysis if I need) and was upgraded to CKD 3 (i think.) But if I slip further down on the % of effective filtering I may well need to return to dialysis, probably for the rest of my life, unless I get a transplant. Thank you for your kind wishes.

courtcat79
courtcat79 2011-03-06 21:48:21 -0600 Report

I get leg cramps as well. Nothing I do helps me and this just started a few months back more frequently it feels like someone is taking a very tight rubber band and tieing it tight around the muscles in my legs. At night I get very bad I guess they are cramps in my feet and I have to get up and walk them out which prevents me from getting sleep at night. I'm assuming its diabetic nerve pain my Dr. hasn't said much about it but I do also have degenerative disk disease which causes nerve compression so he said it could be either or.
I do know that diabetics aren't supposed to get lotion in between your toes, so I'd be careful with the lotion. I do eat banana's which is supposed to help with muscle cramps but you can't over do it with the potassium.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-06 22:10:15 -0600 Report

Unfortunately Banannas are also high in sugar. So I avoid banannas for that reason, and because I have CKD, I need to avoid foods having high amounts of potassium anyway.

whitetigress
whitetigress 2011-03-06 15:37:08 -0600 Report

What do you mean by "awful"? "My toes feel awful."
Are you willing to describe the leg cramps? The type of cramping tells what you are lacking.
For example, does it feel like someone is punching you in the leg or does the muscle seize and cramp up?
What are you doing when your feet become numb?

Beverlydolls
Beverlydolls 2011-03-07 05:44:53 -0600 Report

Usually I'm a sleep! Thanks for your reply

whitetigress
whitetigress 2011-03-07 10:03:54 -0600 Report

Muscles need a combination of magnesium, potassium and water to function properly. Our muscles contain a lot of water. All of these are necessary to function properly.

Beverlydolls
Beverlydolls 2011-03-08 15:41:14 -0600 Report

I drink alot of water… and i wish i could keep more fruit on hand.. but my kids loves it too… it is hard to keep it from them… i tell them that i need it but they dont understand…

peaches 222
peaches 222 2011-03-06 13:20:45 -0600 Report

I to have severe limb cramp and pain,my doctor put me on anatripilin,exta potassium in my diet and magnisium, this really seems to help.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-06 20:38:56 -0600 Report

My bride had to use diuretics to take water off her hungs and around her heart, and the water flushed the Mg & the Potssium (not sure of the abbrev.) out of her system. Then she started cramping, mostly in he legs but also in her hands and feet and her groin. She had a very high tolerance to pain, but when the cramps set in she would scream in pain. At one point she was asked in the hospital "1 to 10 how bad is your pain?" Her answer: "20!"

She took (with Dr's OK) both Mg and Potassium suppliments and she didn't cramp any longer. But she took so much Mg that she developed dumping syndrome. She was kinda in a feedback loop there. She'd lose water when she dumped, and then lose the Mg & potass. And toward the end of her life she was constantly on the razor's edge between being too "wet" and too "dry"

But she was sure a fighter for her life. I called her my "brave little toaster" because she had that fighting spirit, and optimism that I saw in that movie's title character.

My life is much simpler since she passed, but if I could, and it wouldn't be so painful and hard for her, I'd love to have her back.

Gemm
Gemm 2011-03-03 11:33:40 -0600 Report

I've been on Neurontin (actually the generic Gabapentin) for about 8 - 9 years now, at gradually increasing doses started at 300 mg a day now at 400 mg 4 xs a day. It does help, some, with the numbness, prickly creepy crawly feeling I have from neuropathy. I've also had an antidepressant added (for me Amitriptylin - started at 5 mg now up to 25 mg daily). I still find it difficult to sleep many nights between the pain from arthritis and the neuropathy, but the meds have helped some. My doc has mentioned a couple of other things but since our insurance will pay the entire cost of what I'm on now and won't for some of the alternatives we work with what I have now. I do know some people though that these don't seem to help much if at all so work with your doctor to see what will work best for you. Each of us is different in our reaction to meds as well as our diseases/disorders.

Cramps are another matter that Neurontin doesn't seem to affect, at least not for me. Though potassium can help for some people my husband recently was having a lot of problems with severe leg cramps and when doc tested him he was found to have too much potassium. We found out then that it isn't just not enough but also having the proper balance of several minerals - potassium is just one - that can cause or ease leg cramping. I'm not sure where he put the info that doc gave him about it but he did get some kind of pamphlet about it from doc. I'd suggest you talk to your diabetic doc or family doc about that and see what s/he can do to help you.

As for lotions, unless it is one of the pain relieving kind, regular lotions aren't much help in relieving neuropathy or cramps. They are fairly good at helping to keep our skin from drying out too much and thus cracking which just adds another dimension to the situation which can be miserable enough without adding to it.

One of my meds has a side effect of severe drying of the skin (which I really don't need as I've always tended to have dry skin anyway) and I've found - for me - to ease that dryness - that baby oil gel works wonders when applied daily as part of my bed-time prep routine. I actually found a generic one that doesn't have an added fragrance to it so I can even use it. (Any thing with a fragrance is totally out for me as with those I can't breathe.) Sure, using that at night does mean I have to wash my sheets more often but it's worth it not to have the severe itching/cracking skin that I find I will scratch in my sleep and really hurt from it in the morning.

Hugs

Gemm

Whispering Winds
Whispering Winds 2011-03-03 08:52:26 -0600 Report

I have been on Nurntin for 3 years, it does seems to help with the numbness but I have had any luck with cramps. I am a Native American Northern Traditinal dancer and get cramps after dancing. What I use is a drink put out by poweraid, it is like gatorade but it has no carbs,sugars or calories. It helps me and they are usally 3 for 3 dollars. I hope that this helps.

bambalina
bambalina 2011-03-03 01:48:58 -0600 Report

Lookes that someone told you about Pottasium , and banana , this may help ,stay well ,

Beverlydolls
Beverlydolls 2011-03-03 13:24:22 -0600 Report

Thanks so much for your reply and stay well also

kittenpurr1
kittenpurr1 2011-03-06 20:13:49 -0600 Report

Don't go over board on the Pottasium, either too little or too much can cause problems. I don't know how your body stores things, I was told to eat half of a banana, since I am diabetic. Electrolytes can mess up your system, make your heart do crazy things. So, do half banana in the morning, then do the other half later in the day, see if the kids wants to split one with you.

demark
demark 2011-03-02 17:43:00 -0600 Report

I take a drug called nurotin. It take care of the cramps and numbness and pain.

Armourer
Armourer 2011-03-02 18:42:08 -0600 Report

I use to take nurotin for leg pain, second highest dose the doc can script. Didn't help me at all. I quit because of the high cost. Later I got a notice of a class action suit on the drug. Might want to check this out.

kittenpurr1
kittenpurr1 2011-03-03 01:19:37 -0600 Report

Really? I quit taking it too. It didn't work for me, and the pharmacy said you are on such a high dose, and it's caused all this weight gain, you should stop taking it. Pleae tell me more about this lawsuit.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-03 10:18:57 -0600 Report

Neuontin (aka "Gabepentin") didn't work for me either, so was DC'd for me. Now I am on an antidepressive, Nortryptaline

kittenpurr1
kittenpurr1 2011-03-06 20:15:49 -0600 Report

Your welcome. Me, neither. I miss them size 5 jeans. I don't like it, when people say,"When's the baby due?" No baby.

DonHenault
DonHenault 2011-03-02 09:16:53 -0600 Report

I am having similar issues with my toes and fingers. I am wart to paired of socks trying keep my toes warm. My hands are a problem I am a guitar player I have tried to wear gloves to keep them warm. I am also looking for a solution.

poolqt68
poolqt68 2011-03-01 20:21:49 -0600 Report

there is a leg and foot lotion for diebetics that helps a lot it is much better than the normal lotion we use they sell it at walmart in the diebetics section it works real good the only thing i dont like is the mentholated smell. try it i hope it helps

Beverlydolls
Beverlydolls 2011-03-01 23:34:34 -0600 Report

Cool… I like this Lotion called Perfect Purity Advanced Lubricating it smell pretty good.. dont leave my feet feeling greasy either…i had to check out the others too.. thanks for your reply to me…

MewElla
MewElla 2011-03-01 13:35:43 -0600 Report

I can remember the terribly painful leg cramps and toes cramped up. I use to eat a banana a day and this did not help me. My dr put me on Vitamin D 2000 mg a day and my food I choose has high count potassium in it. I got the diabetic socks and always wear them to bed at night (to keep my feet warm). Since all this, I am lactose intolerant, so no milk. Instead, I use the pure silk almond milk which is better for me and gives me no problems. It has been a long time now since I have had the leg cramps/toe problems, and for this, I am thankful!! It hurts…

Beverlydolls
Beverlydolls 2011-03-01 13:41:04 -0600 Report

MewElla.. Thanks so much for your reply… Does the pure silk Almond Milk does it taste good and does it cost more or less then the other milk?

MewElla
MewElla 2011-03-01 16:08:24 -0600 Report

I find that it tastes quite good, with the hint of almond in the background. It is about $3.00 half gallon. More expensive than milk, but I need the milk in my diet, so I cut other things to offset it.

LabRat90
LabRat90 2011-03-01 11:01:12 -0600 Report

I've always had problems with leg cramps, too. I have lactose intolerance so I don't drink milk and limit other dairy products. My dad (a pharmacist) started me on Calcium with Vitamin D supplements when I was about 5. I'm almost 47 now and I still take them. If I don't, the cramps come back. Check with your doctor to see what's causing the problem. That will point toward the solution.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2011-03-01 09:30:07 -0600 Report

Cramps are not usually associated with neuropathy but are very associated with statins. Do you take any drugs for cholesterol? The best way to help with the numbness is to keep blood sugars in a good range.

AuntieBear
AuntieBear 2011-02-28 23:37:58 -0600 Report

I am on pain management because I have cramps almost every night. The numbenss in the feet not so much, which can be a catch 22 situation. On one hand it is a good sign of circulation, on the other hand, I feel a lot of pain in my feet. The one thing I have found that helps my feet and legs is to make sure I really massage them when I put lotion on them. For some reason it helps relax my cramps, lessen the pain and seems to keep the numbness from happening as often. It also helps you pay attention to any changes that you may need to tell your doctor about. Changes like : ingrown toenails, cracked skin on the bottoms of the feet, rashes, lumps, bruises, sores and any other type of injury that could easily turn into a diabetic disaster.

As for the pain and numbness, try tracking the occurences. Use a calendar and mark down which days, how long the symptoms lasted, did you do anything to trigger the symptoms etc. This can help you and your doctor figure out if it is from injury, diabetes, neuropathy or something else.

Whatever you do, make sure you talk to your doctor about this.

survivor0130
survivor0130 2011-02-28 22:27:34 -0600 Report

could be neuropathy, i have that and now im in a whelchair

Beverlydolls
Beverlydolls 2011-02-28 22:56:27 -0600 Report

is that like nerv damage???

survivor0130
survivor0130 2011-03-01 08:34:03 -0600 Report

yes, thats why im in a wheelchair at times. i have no feeling in my legs from the knees down and loseing feeling in my thighs but im still breathing and life still looks good especially with new friends like you but id recomend checking with your dr to make sure . and have a beautiful day

MAYS
MAYS 2011-02-28 23:04:36 -0600 Report

Yes!
That's why it's important to be examined by your doctor.

Beverlydolls
Beverlydolls 2011-02-28 23:20:55 -0600 Report

Mays Thanks but she has me on Byetta Shots to help me lose weight and give me more energy… So the Nerv damage doesnt spead to the other parts to my body… Here been a month are so i hadnt taken my shots but i started it back up and i guess i got lazy. I know i should keep on it..

LabRat90
LabRat90 2011-03-01 11:03:51 -0600 Report

Please keep on your Byetta shots. They cause nausea at first but it goes away. The byetta really helps with the blood sugar numbers; and not just to lose weight. Although losing weight by itself will help with your numbers. I'm living proof of that.

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-02-28 17:31:30 -0600 Report

I get leg cramps when my body is low on potassium, so you might want to try eating an extra banana or other potassium rich food. for starters. That almost always help me out.

But leg cramps can also be a sign of other things like a side effect of medication so it would be in your best interest to speak to a doctor about it.

For after cramp care though, I find that getting a bottle of winter green or menthol rubbing alcohol with three aspirin dissolved in it rubbed on my leg after the cramp helps relieve the soreness I always get after and relaxes the muscle.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-02-28 17:57:51 -0600 Report

that's an interesting tip, Bunny. about the alcohol rub with aspirin dissoved in it

I knew of the low potassium since Jem got bad cramps (not only in her legs) due to he diuretics she used. She didn't like to eat banannas, but she did like other foods or drink with a lot of potassium.

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-02-28 22:27:38 -0600 Report

I used to have horrible cramps in my feet and legs as a teenager, and that was a trick an old friend of the family taught me. I got cramps so bad that I would limp for more than a day after unless I used the alcohol rub. Do be careful though as alcohol dries out your skin you might also want to rub some good lotion on after.

MAYS
MAYS 2011-02-28 17:30:18 -0600 Report

Hello!
I suggest that you discuss this with your doctor.
As a diabetic we are at risk for various complications that can be associated with having diabetes and not managing our blood glucose level.
If leg cramps and numbness in your feet and legs is an issue it should be brought to the attention of your diabetes medical team, that way after an examination and test the proper diagnosis can be given and a solution provided.

~Mays~

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