giving up

msonnier26
By msonnier26 Latest Reply 2014-02-24 23:14:09 -0600
Started 2011-02-27 21:57:29 -0600

Am I the only person that finds diabetes hard to deal with? Am I the only one that feels like just giving up and dying?(depressed)

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77 replies

Fefe12
Fefe12 2014-02-24 23:14:09 -0600 Report

I wish I could say I feel the same but I don't. I've not had the time to be sad about my condition. When I first found out I was so happy to be alive I never thought any other way. I have children to finish raising. I have grandchildren that I want to see grow up. I plan on having long walks with my husband. I have friends and family that are too important to miss. Is being a diabetic easy? Nope, but then is life easy? I don't think it is. I would much rather have this disease then cancer, or watch my child dying from a disease no one can pronounce. I've lost my dad but still have my mum and I cherish everyday I have with her. We are worth more then this disease don't let it take over your life. Living and loving were gifts to us to use, don't throw them away. I'm sure you would be missed. What a hole you would create if you left his earth. I think that would be sad, very sad.

WendyFR
WendyFR 2011-03-08 21:52:52 -0600 Report

I have had my ups and downs about diabetes. Since I was diagnosed at an early age, my BS has been like a roller coaster from high school until my late 20's. My Senior year in high school I was diagnosed with depression and then again in my mid 20's. I didn't really see the light until I hit 30 years old and even then I was still not at my best. I am now 37 and all I can think of is minimizing my A1C count, staying healthy and living life the way I want to live it and that with less to no complications. I don't know exactly what your going through, but me personally I take a day at a time and try to stay positive, cause everything seems like it effects my BS. I tend to bring laughter towards myself or make fun at myself. It helps me deal with everything that goes wrong.

Tigereyze209
Tigereyze209 2011-03-04 14:48:32 -0600 Report

Amazing timing finding this topic. The last week, my sugars have been too high, and my body had been out of balance. I found myself going from bouts of depression to rages of anger, to wanting to pick a fight with family over the most trivial of things that in reality are pretty unimportant. In the last couple of days, I have gotten the blood sugar back in check, and my body got back into balance, and my head cleared. Amazing how my mood was directly affected by my condition, and the scary part is, I was not aware of how out of control I was until I got back to sort of normal. YIKES!
So yes, one can feel out of control and giving up. That usually means something is not right, and one needs to find help getting that control back.
I was lucky that an extra ten units of insulin was about all I needed, this time.
Iit could have been a lot worse, but the good news is, it can get a lot better too.

Good luck.

Sidehack
Sidehack 2011-03-03 16:06:10 -0600 Report

I also suffer from these bouts of depression. & there are times I wish my life would just end. I also have heart disease & would prefer a quick and painless end. My Dr. has me on anti-depressants which help a great deal.

Steve45694
Steve45694 2011-03-03 15:46:11 -0600 Report

I too have trouble with depression. You are diffidently not alone with this battle. I have a terrible back condition that doesn't allow me to be able to walk very far or even take physical therapy. I feel worthless pretty much all the time. My wife is the bread winner here in our household and that makes it worse, for me.. There are a lot of good people on here that can give you great information and tips, I would suggest browsing around the discussion board and find articles that correspond to your problems to get the best answers. Hang in there and pray daily that God gives you the strength to carry on. Hope this helps! God bless…

CaliKo
CaliKo 2011-03-03 13:00:43 -0600 Report

No, you are not the only one. There is quite a lot to learn to manage diabetes, and most of us are overwhelmed and scared or depressed at first. And then at different points in your life there are times when diabetes management is easier, and some times when it is more difficult. And, being human, some days we'll make all the right choices, and other days we won't. Hang in there, and good luck.

courtcat79
courtcat79 2011-03-03 12:10:07 -0600 Report

In my personal opinion I don't think you are the only one that deals with those feelings. I was diagnosed back in 1994, I was only 15 at the time. Through the years I failed at taking care of my diabetes and really didn't care to. I went through the phase "Oh this couldn't be happening to me, the test's were wrong!" I ate whatever I wanted, how much and as often as I wanted. I didn't care. I still go through phases where I just don't care because so many people around me don't have diabetes and can eat a whole cake and not have to worry about it. It gets depressing to have to sit there and watch others eat the things that you want to. Its hard to manage if you are on a low income and the prices of the food we NEED to eat or a supposed to eat are sky high. I feel like giving up most of the time and go through "I'm not eating anything if I can't eat what I want." I feel for you, I really do. But just know, you aren't the only one out there that has/still does feel this way. That should make you feel at least somewhat better. To know that its common to deal with such feelings. :)

Armourer
Armourer 2011-03-02 19:17:12 -0600 Report

Almost all diabetics seem to go through this at least once, for me, I deal with this attitude all the time, it might last a couple hours or days even weeks and months, but after reading James Baker's reply, I must say I need an attitude adjustment right away! Face it, this disease can be controlled one just has to decide to do it. Good luck, and there's those who care on this site, you just need to accept the advice & help.

PetiePal
PetiePal 2011-03-02 12:51:53 -0600 Report

No you're not the only one. I think every diabetic at some points has the feelings of despair. If you don't rebound I'd suggest seeking either a therapist or a local group you can talk your feelings out with. There are a lot of diabetes support groups out there it's just a matter of finding one!

But good on your for bringing it up here on the internet forum!

0tina0
0tina0 2011-03-02 09:35:23 -0600 Report

When I feel like giving up I look at a poster I have had in my office for 25 years…
'Depression is Anger without Enthusiasm' I love this saying… perks me right up.

MewElla
MewElla 2011-03-01 20:38:05 -0600 Report

Each one of us was scared when we heard we had diabetes. It is scary and I won't lie to you. But, you know, the one thing we all have going for us is that we have each other to lean on for support. We can throw out how we feel and people on here don't judge us, they really listen and give us strength to get up and try harder. You are not alone, we are here for you.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2011-03-01 20:29:15 -0600 Report

Please don't give up. I am a person with black depression, and I know how easy it is to give up. Talk to someone before it goes that far.
I'm out here, I'll listen.
Guardian stone

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2011-03-01 20:02:17 -0600 Report

Hi!

I just want to offer you some more support. I'm glad that some of your other friends on Diabetic Connect have also jumped in.

I would also encourage you to consider talking to a mental health professioanal, preferably someone who has experience in working with clients facing chronic health conditions. If you are feeling depressed, then it is especially important to reach out and get some help. A mental health professional could help you gain some perspective on what's going on and help you to develop some new coping skills.

Don't go through this alone.

EFUA
EFUA 2011-03-01 19:39:01 -0600 Report

NO, You're Not! This is all new to me: I'm 5'7" and feel I in at 5'8". ( in over my head) I am not going to grow any taller. Yet, I think and feel I've found a new community goup of friends who can hel,p my old one are limited in the area. But can reach for support, help and so can you. Come and use this site to your advantages and benefits to learn, get information and gain new friends. Welcome!

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-02-28 14:31:33 -0600 Report

Nope...not at all. The feeling of isolation doesn't help when we are trying to deal with diabetes, but now that you are back here...take advantage of the support you can find here.

We all fact that "just forget it!" attitude. I had battled with that last spring into summer until I had a reading of just over 400!! OMG, I didn't have a number like that when I first was diagnosed. I just let myself get lazy and I forgot how far I had come because I had kind of gotten stuck in a non-forward moving place. My hubby ran out and got salad fixings and made me a salad because he understood that I needed some support. I am lucky I have him. I also had not been on here for that same period of time...funny how that works.

I really believe in the accountability that happens here even just among friends. Spend some time with us and you will find that you feel compelled to try a little harder and endure a bit more frustration because you know that there will be someone here to help you out with dealing the feelings, numbers, and attitudes. That is what makes this site so special.

realsis77
realsis77 2011-02-28 13:25:18 -0600 Report

Hello and welcome. When I first found out I had diabetes I felt like you do. Then when I found out I needed daily shots I felt even more fear. But comming to this site truely helped me develop a positive attitude toward diabetes and the things we must do to care for our self like shots ect.when you have a question or are feeling low post about it. We are all here to help each other. I know it doesn't seem like it now but it will get better. I remember crying after going to the grocery store right after my diagonosis. Thinking what can I eat? But I learned new ways to cook and did a lot of reading and it truely helped. Knowledge is power over this disease and the more we learn the better! I bought some books on the newly diagnosed diabetic and the books deal with many issues we face and were a termendous help to me. The books also deal with the emotional aspect of having diabetes wich also really helped me. I found my books very cheap on amazon . They have a number of titles to choose from. Also I kept comming back here and got the support I needed from this site. Please know your not alone. We have all delt with what your feeling now. Please hang in there I promise you it does get better. If you ever need to talk I will be here for you ok? I think you will enjoy being part of our group. DC is a wonderful place that provides great support and encouragement. I want to say again welcome! And id be happy to be your friend and support you in any way I can. God bless

Harlen
Harlen 2011-02-28 10:00:21 -0600 Report

Hello and welcome
No your not the only one going thrue that I think we all do from time to time
It is a job to take care of D what can I sey we know what we need to do and its just down to the doing .Rather then get all stressed out post it here and maybe we can help
Best wishes
Harlen

LTennion
LTennion 2011-02-28 07:18:54 -0600 Report

Good Morning,
I believe it is only natural to get frustrated and experience burn-out from time to time when you are dealing with a chronic disease. I think that anyone who can successfully cope and deal with diabetes is to certain degree "obsessed" with thinking about it and controlling it. It requires a 24/7 consideration. This gets "old"!! For me, accepting the fact that I'm human and it's "ok" to slip a bit from time to time as long as you immediately get back on the wagon. I don't beat myself up for this, although realizing that if I do not, the consequences of the complications are certainly not worth it. Not everyone experiences depression, but a lot do and that's understandable too. Depression along with diabetes itself, is a vicious and relentless progression of a downhill struggle. Get Help!! Do not try to deal with this alone. Knowing that the depression comes and goes, can be a source of relief when it returns. I try to have fun with it…humor can be so comforting. I have often said that more emphasis should be placed on the pyschological aspects effecting people with diabetes. After all, most complications arrise resulting after a period of depression. I think patients would benefit greatly by knowing of these possibilities before they actually experience it. Best of luck to you and your battle.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-02-28 02:07:14 -0600 Report

Howdy mson­nier­.
I suspect most of us here on DC will admit to feeling the way you seem to be now. It is a difficult and relentless disease. I get tired of it, but I am glad I have a measure of control over it, not like cancer or heart disease or RA or Lupis. My beloved bride "Jem" had the last 3 conditions, and one of them, perhaps killed her (she also had COPD too and that could have killed her too).

I had ESRD (end stage renal disease) and needed dialysis to survive and I seriously considered not going back for treatment and letting my disease take me. I saw NO future for me. I had been divorced about 5 years previous to that out of a 25 year marriage, and I thought that NOBODY would want a fifty-something diabetic man who was on dialysis. (I tried to find someone, even when I was able-bodied, but no lady was interested).

I CHOSE to continue on dialysis, because I didn't want to give my 3 sons permission to hurt themselves when things got tough for them. Dialysis was probably the lowest point in my life.

But the infection which shut down my kidneys resolved and I no longer needed to be dialyzed. And then "Jem" contacted me through "Dating4Disabled" and we "clicked" and eventually married. She was the lady I never thought I would have ever again. She was so very good for me, and I for her.

Even with Jem not being with me, the life lesson remains with me. Don't give up. I don't know what will happen, but I know death is going to have to come and get me. I'm NOT going to deliver myself to it. As long as I am still breathing, I still have something to do.

My point is, you may feel low now because of your diabetes, but don't give up. Don't do somethng (like stop treating your diabetes) which would cause complications down the line. You never know what will happen!

I pray that God will bless you and yours richly, and that you find something or someone to help you feel alive and worthwhile. You ARE worthwhile.

James Baker.

Kirla
Kirla 2011-02-27 22:08:13 -0600 Report

I found diabetes easy to control. This is what has helped me.

Feb 2009 I was diagnosed with a fasting blood sugar of 366 and A1C of 14.1. Started to eat a salad every day at supper. Also started to eat lots of low carb vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, cucumbers, spinach, pickles and sauerkraut. Started to drink 8+ glasses of water every day.

I then bought a meter and started to test my blood sugar before and after each meal. At first I was testing 2 hours after each meal and when my numbers dropped a lot I started testing 1 hour after meals.

By testing I found that foods like bread and most foods made of grains along with pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, oatmeal, cereals, chips, crackers, cakes, cookies, candy, soda, fruits, fruit juices, milk and most foods that contain more than 5-6 net carbs per serving as found on the package label all spiked my blood sugar. Some people can cut back on these foods and some people like me have to stop eating them.

I found by reducing and eliminating high carb starchy foods helped me a lot. By adding small amounts of chicken, beef, pork or a hard-boiled egg to my meals helped reduce blood sugar spikes also.

Good luck
Kevin
http://kirla.wordpress.com/

nanaellen
nanaellen 2011-03-03 13:57:48 -0600 Report

Sorry but it sounds to me like you either have a lot of money or great health insurance!! Either way evidently you don't HAVE TO worry about the cost of such things as a METER AND STRIPS AND EVERYTHING else that goes along with diabetes INCLUDING the food you eat!!! I'm glad you found it easy to control but please don't be so insensitive to those of us who CAN'T!! It's like rubbing salt in the wound!!

kittenpurr1
kittenpurr1 2011-04-14 14:49:30 -0500 Report

You can get free meters, and test strips for 15 dollars, and Publix in my city gives Metformin away. Go to some place that offers help.

Kirla
Kirla 2011-03-05 13:19:24 -0600 Report

No friend request here. I don’t see where I said anything about eating expensive special foods. I search all the time for different foods to eat and new resources to buy them as cheap as I can.

My morning protein drink, I used to buy Atkins low carb protein shakes. I first saw them in Bjs on sale for $12.00 a case. I bought several cases and every time they were on sale I bought them. Even on sale they were expensive. I ran out one day and refused to pay full price. I saw the EAS low carb powder protein drink. I pay $27.00 for a 5Lb bag. One bag makes75 servings. Since I don’t use a full serving I get closer to 90 serving. By changing to the powder the cost of my protein drink went from $1.00 to about 30 cents if using water. 45 cents if using homemade nut milk. I buy Almonds at Bjs for $3.66 a pound. It comes in 3 lb bags for 10.99. ½ cup cost about 60 cents. ½ cup makes one quart of nut milk. One cup costs about 15 cents.

For my mid morning snack I have my fiber supplement I buy at Wal-Mart for about $7.50 a container. I get about 100 serving out of one can. Cost me about 7 cents a serving. I also eat one oz of sunflower seeds I buy in the dollar store. I get 7 serving for a dollar. One bag last me all week. I then drink my instant coffee I buy at Bjs. I use a small amount of creamer and one packet of splenda which I buy at Bjs when I have a coupon. 700 packets cost me about $8.00 with the coupon. That’s less than 2 cents each.

For lunch I try and eat 2-3oz’s of chicken most days. Hannafords sells chicken breast on sale for $1.00 a pound. Lately I have had to pay $1.19 a pound. I buy 15 pounds and freeze each breast separate. One breast lasts me 3 days. Some days I will eat tuna fish. I buy a can for about 50 cents a can. Mix with a little mayonnaise I but at Aldi’s for $1.99 a quart. My tuna salad last 3 days per can. I used to eat coleslaw, which is very cheap to make. Cabbage cost about 60 cents a pound and I find it on sale for as little as 30 cents a pound sometimes. It makes a lot of coleslaw from one head of cabbage. I now eat 1 cup of broccoli I buy frozen at Bjs for about $1.25 a pound. I buy a 5 pound bag for $6.19. One bag lasts a couple of weeks. Some days I will eat one cup of spinach instead of the coleslaw or broccoli. Frozen at Bjs I pay $6.19 for a six pound bag. Last for weeks. I will also eat my sloppy joe I make with ground turkey I buy at either Save a Lots or Aldis. I buy it frozen for about $1.40 a pound. It used to be 69 cents a pound. Ground turkey the last year or so went way up but it’s still cheaper than hamburg. I use I pound of turkey with an onion and pepper and some spices and add a small can of tomato sauce I buy for 50 cents a can. It makes one quart of sloppy joe for about $3.00 and lasts me at least a week. I also eat one serving of peanuts I buy at Aldis for $1.99 a pound. Last me 2 weeks. I also eat a small piece of cake everyday I make from soy flour. I bought a 50 pound bag of soy flour for $50.00 last year and use it every week to make cakes and soy flour pasta. After one year I still have about 20 pounds left. I think I got my moneys worth out of the flour. Last to mention is my Chana Dal. I used to eat a cup at lunch by itself. One day while gaging on my broccoli I decided to dip the broccoli in the chana dal. Wish I did that a year earlier. Now I dip or mix all my low carb vegetables in the chana dal. Online chana dal can be expensive. It costs a lot. About a month after being diagnosed I took the wife to the mall. We hardly never go there. When we entered the mall, right there in front of me I saw an India store. I looked and found they carried chana dal for $2.00 a pound. I bought several bags. Also found that they carried all the spices I needed to follow the recipes on David Mendosa’s website. I had to fight back the tears. Well I bought my chana dal there for about a year and then one day when we went to he mall the store was gone. I had to fight back the tears. I went severl months with out my chana dal. It cost too much to buy online. Last summer when we went on vacation we stopped in Albany, New York. The wife likes to shop at the oriental stores there. Well down the street there was an India store so we stopped to see if they had chana dal. I found that they had hundreds of bags of it. I was buying 2 pound bags in the other store and this store that 4 pound bags. I couldn’t find the price so the wife asked the guy at the counter and he said $4.00 a bag. I couldn’t believe my ears, so I bought 5 bags for $20.00. Since last August I have been eating my chana dal every day and still got 3 and ½ bags left. I figure it’s going to last for more than a year. I don’t think it’s too expensive.

For supper I eat a small bowl of soy pasta I make from the soy flour with my pasta machine my mom bought me years ago. 1-½ cups of flour, a couple of eggs and a teaspoon of oil and water and it makes enough to last at least a week. I now make several batches at a time and only need to make it once a month. I found a low carb pasta sauce for $1.00 a can at Save a Lots. So far it’s the only store where I can find the no sugar added pasta sauce. Hunts make it. Every time I go shopping I look for it and no store sells it except Save a Lots. One can lasts for more than a week. I will then eat a salad. I buy my salad at Aldis. They sell a bag for 79 cents. It lasts me 3 days. I used to buy a low carb salad dressing for $1.19 a bottle, I then would add 2-3 tablespoons of red wine vinegar. I buy a quart of the vinegar at Wal-Mart for about $1.50. Lasts for a couple of weeks. Lately I have been buying a low carb Caesars dressing for about $1.19 a bottle and it lasts about a week. Sometimes I will eat my low carb ice cream. It’s cheap to make and taste pretty good. I bought the ice cream machine at Aldis for $20.00.

At night for a snack I eat 1-2 serving of Almonds along with a few low carb beers. I buy a cheap low carb beer anywhere I can buy it on sale. Beer is the thing that probley cost me the most per day. I spend about $2.50 a day on beer. If the wife drinks a beer or 2 then maybe $3.50 a day. I don’t recommend you drink if taking meds. It killed my father at age 56. I never drink and take meds.

I eat beef maybe once or twice a week. Hannafords sells beef on sale for $2.00 a pound. When it’s cheap I buy several packages and freeze it. The wife likes the pork with the skin on it. We often buy it for 99 cents a pound. Last year at save alots I bought about 20 cans of pumpkin. That time of year it’s cheap so I use it a lot so bought a lot. Sometimes it’s hard to find out of season.

I don’t buy any expensive foods. I buy on sale most of the time and look and shop at discount stores and only buy things when the price is right. I don’t think I spend a lot of money on food. I never buy organic or expensive cuts of meat. I don’t know why you decided to attack me. I found it easy to control my blood sugar. I believe if a lot of people were told to eat lots of low carb vegetables and drink lots of water and test the foods they eat they to can learn to control their blood sugar. I understand that there is lots of people whom if they did what I did will not be able to control their blood sugar. For them I believe they should be on insulin. I know there are lots of people that have several different health problems, which make controlling their blood sugar very difficult. With some meds people can’t eat low carb vegetables. I feel sorry for them. I have been doing this for almost 2 years now. I reread my post several times and don’t see why you took such a view of my post. Well several weeks ago I deleted most of my friends and have been planning on not coming here anymore but seem to find myself coming back. Spending all my time on sites like this one is having a negative effect on my marriage. Every post I post maybe my last here. Every time I respond I swear it’s my last. I’m hoping this is it. I figure I have been wasting my time doing what I do. This just proves it. My wife is right. I need to move past my diabetes. I already have excellence blood sugar control. I get nothing out of coming here. Never had. Never will.

By the way. You only need to test a lot at first. Once you learn how different foods affects your blood sugar you will only need to test once a day or several times a week. If you can’t afford to test a lot you can start by testing just one meal and when you learn what you can and cannot eat move on to the next meal. That way you only have to test twice a day. A box of 50 strips costs $20.00 at Wal-Mart and the meter is only $9.00. Testing twice a day it should only cost about $1.00 a day. If you can’t afford that I feel sorry for you. When I got out of the Navy during the first Bush recession in 1992 I only made $5.00 a hour for several years and probley could of afforded a $1.00 a day for a month or two. I also didn’t qualify for any help. We all have hard years in which it takes time to go threw. For several years I worked 3 sometimes 4 jobs. I got up at 5:30 in the morning and got home at 10:00 at night and did this 7 days a week and still didn’t make more than 3 hundred a week. Was always in the red. Owed allot on credit cards. Only recently have been doing ok. Life is hard most of the time. Either do the best you can or live off some government program. I always worked hard and so far I haven’t had to do that. Good insurance isn’t cheap and even with it there’s copays and all kinds of things the insurance will not pay for. Last year I spent 2 days in the hospital for tests. I ended up having to borrow $1000 and to pay for some doctors who refused to accept my insurance. Will never go there again. Almost put me in the poor house. Let me go outside and look. I forgot I already live in a poor house. Needs about $30,000 of repairs. Will die first. Plan on leaving it to the village. Refuse to do any repairs. Maybe the wife could get 15-20 thousand for it after I’m gone. But I don’t think so.

I never figured I was insensitive to anyone and if I rub any salt in open wounds I’ll be using sea salt. I found some place to buy it cheap. Even imported from Spain.

Steve45694
Steve45694 2011-03-05 18:56:07 -0600 Report

I read your blog and I have a question. I'm a little slow here so forgive me, lol. What is chana dal? I have never heard of it. I love the blog and how you were able to control it with diet basically. Your A1C is fantastic, I only wished I could get mine down there, lol but I'm trying really hard. Thanks again and God Bless!

Kirla
Kirla 2011-03-05 23:34:49 -0600 Report

Its a bean from India. Concidered low carb. I wrote this a few days ago on another site. Just go to the following links and you will get a better understanding of what it is.

http://mendosa.com/chanadal.html#Recipes

The above link is an article Mr. Mendosa wrote on his blog about Chana Dal. Towards the bottom of the page there are a lot more recipes. I have made several of them. All I have tried tasted good. I found a store in Albany, New York that sells 4 pound bags for $4.00. I bought 20 pounds last August. Still got 3 ½ bags left. I eat this every day at lunch to dip my vegetables. I have been using the spicy one for a while now. I would recommend if you are going to try chana dal, google India stores for where you live. I have found it cheaper to buy from an India store than on the Internet. I also found that the spices for many of the recipes are cheaper in an India store than anywhere else.

http://mendosa.com/chanarecipes.htm

The above page you will find the recipe I was referring to. I use the first recipe, the spicy one. I haven’t tried the hummus one yet.

Steve45694
Steve45694 2011-03-05 18:33:07 -0600 Report

I think you are very informative myself. I also enjoy reading your comments and posts. Besides veggies aren't that expensive and neither is the powder protein drinks you use. By the way, what do you use as a fiber supplement from Wal-mart? I need something that will make me feel full. I get the hungry munchies feeling not long after lunch. Thanks for your input. Sea Salt is better for you anyway! I love my DC family, God Bless!

Kirla
Kirla 2011-03-05 23:55:24 -0600 Report

I read somewhere that a person should be getting 25-35 grams of fiber each day. Even after eating lots of low carb vegetables and chana dal I found I was only getting about 15-20 grams of fiber each day. Mr. Mendosa wrote a post about taking Psyllium Husk Fiber and another friend of mine who writes a blog also said he takes Psyllium Husk Fiber. So when I seen the sugar free Equate Fiber Therapy in Wal-Mart I bought some. Its orange flavor. I try and imagine its orange juice. Anyway it taste like orange juice and I find it tastes good. They also sell one that isn’t sugar free. The carb count is a lot higher than I like. I only buy the sugar free one. I read somewhere that if you take a fiber supplement ½ hour before eating it was supposed to limit blood sugar spikes. I find it easier to drink it when I do. You will have to experiment to see what works best for you.

nanaellen
nanaellen 2011-03-05 18:21:18 -0600 Report

I'm sorry if you felt like I was attacking you!! I didn't mean it that way at all!! I'm just VERY frustrated with TRYING to control my sugars!! I THOUGHT I had it all under control but then I got pancreatitus really bad and had to have my gall bladder removed which put me right back to the beginning again! I also have worked hard my whole life and didn't want to ask anyone for help. I haven't had medical insurance since before I was diagnosed with diabetes which was 6 years ago! I went from nothing to being a type 2 diabetic and having to have 3 shots of insulin a day and one at night!! I had to get glasses that cost me $475.00 so I could see and 3 months later didn't even need them anymore!! When I WAS working I COULD test all the time and it took a long time to get my numbers down. My meter and test strips and insulin alone (not including the alcohol wipes and syringes and minor stuff) costs me over $700.00 PER MONTH Haven't worked since Oct 2010 because of my health problems so now my income went from $1600.00 to $850.00 per month!! I have to go for more tests because there is definitely something wrong with my pancreas. I spent a whole week in the hospital including my Birthday and for the first time in 53 years it didn't SNOW on my Birthday either!! I probably owe the hospital about $30,000 by now!! I owe the surgeon $750.00 and now they want $400.00 to do the test. I have to have another test 2 weeks later and God only knows what that is going to cost!! For you it sounds like you live in a reasonably priced place as far as food goes! The food costs here are outrageous!!! I try to go out of town to shop for food but the last time I did that they DOUBLE charged me for my food and I didn't realize it till we got all the way home!! Now I have to wait for 2 weeks before they will put the money back on my card!!! Please don't think anything I said was directed directly @ you cause sounds to me like you have a really good grip on this diabetes nightmare that I'm going through so you really should be proud of yourself!! AND I ABSOLUTELY HATE TO ADMIT THIS TO YOU BUT I AM TRUELY JEALOUS!!!! PLEASE DON'T HATE ME FOR IT!! I wish you the best of luck with your quest to fight this demon cause I'm losing this battle quickly!! And PLEASE don't leave this site just because of this stubborn old fool!! I COULD USE A FRIEND LIKE YOU!!! Just someone to slap me back into reality every once in a while????!!!!!

Kirla
Kirla 2011-03-06 12:01:35 -0600 Report

I’m not sure were to begin. When diagnosed I started to eat a salad everyday and then ate some sugar free coleslaw and broccoli. Slowly added other low carb vegetables and then started testing. This is what helped me the most.

By testing, when my blood sugar spiked more than 100 points after eating I started to look at what I was eating. I was also reading how high carb starchy foods affected blood sugar. At first I tried cutting back on serving size. It helped but not enough. So I eventfully eliminated bread and most foods made of grains along with pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, oatmeal, cereals, chips, crackers, cakes, cookies, candy, soda, fruits, fruit juices, milk and most foods that contain more than 5-6 net carbs per serving as found on the package label. That’s why testing is so important. It tells you how the foods you eat are affecting your blood sugar.

Then one day I found the Dlife forum where people were discussing their problems. By doing what I did I found after 2 months I no longer had a problem. Everything was good. Then I started to read posts where people were telling people to eat the 45-60 grams of carbs per MEAL. 15-30 per Snack. I downloaded and read hundred of PDF files about what to eat and how to eat and was very surprised because I knew different. If I continued to follow the advice of the dietitians and diabetes educators I too wouldn’t of been able to control my blood sugar. I probley still be taking a bag of meds each day and have uncontrollable blood sugar like the hundreds of people who I read on the forums.

Per the rules of most forums your not allowed to give what is considered medical advice. So I wrote my story of what I did and how I control my blood sugar and for the last year and a half have been telling people who can’t control there blood sugar what has helped me.

I have had a lot of people read my story but very few actually follow my advice. But every so often I get a post on my blog or elsewhere where someone tried some of the stuff I write about and it has helps them. Helps encourage me to continue.

I really believe in what has helped me and figure there are hundreds of people who if they would drink some water and eat the vegetables and test what they eat will also have success. I know what I did will not help everyone but I figure it can’t hurt either. Unless you have some condition or are taking some meds where you can’t eat the vegetables. Them people will need insulin and have a hard time controlling blood sugar.

I believe eating the vegetables and drinking the water will reduce insulin resistance in most people. Only thing is there are lots of people who tell me they can’t drink water or eat vegetables. They would rather put up with taking lots and lots of meds with all the side effects and other health risk to their liver or kidneys. Most meds are hard on the liver or kidneys or both. I don’t like taking meds so I figure eating and drinking how I do is much better.

When my blood sugar first came down my worst fear was one day I would test my blood sugar and it would be back over 200. Then all the stuff I do to control it will no longer work and I would then again live with the fear of having diabetes and uncontrollable blood sugar. Since I have been doing this for so long now and everything has been pretty good I’m hoping to be able to do this for the rest of my life. I have read posts from people who have been controlling with diet and exercise for 10 or more years. Even read stories of people who have struggled for 10 or more years and then one day cut the carbs and ate the vegetables, drank the water and found after 10 or more years they were able to quit the meds and have supper blood sugar control. Some have even been able to get off insulin. Many have had continued success for years and are still having it. I’m hoping its going to work for me also.

If the day comes when my worst fears come true if they ever do, I plan on going on insulin myself. I couldn’t stand the meds and figure I’m not going that route again. I read on another site where some guy bought some insulin and started to give it to himself without his doctors knowledge. So one way or another I will get the insulin if and when I need it.

After getting out of the Navy I worked crappy jobs for about 7 years. Sometimes I would have 2-3 jobs and their where times when I had to depend on my wife’s income. When she works she doesn’t make much more than minimum wage either. Sometimes when I had several jobs we took the extra money and paid off the credit cards we lived on when we didn’t make enough and needed to borrow just to pay our bills. Even when I got a better job things weren’t always great but we always got by somehow. Lately there’s a lot of talk about big layoffs at work. I figure I should make it threw but there’s no guarantees. Last time when I changed careers it took me about 7 years to get a decent job. Another 10 years before things started to look good. Last time I was in my mid 30’s. Now at 53 I’m not sure if I could do it again.

I tried to make my other post positive but I was a little pissed off and it probley showed a bit. If I leave this site it wouldn’t be from anything any member said or done. I have been spending like 30-40 hours a week reading and posting trying to get my message out. I no longer post on Dlife and have tried several times to just walk away from here. I even deleted my link in my favorites file and still find myself coming back. My wife wasn’t here when I was diagnosed and by the time she came back my blood sugars were dropping fast. I don’t get a lot of support. She thinks all this is very easy. She sometimes gives me a hard time about spending so much time on the Internet. I guess you have to have this disease to understand.

I never give advice to people, just post my story. If you don’t have any medical reason or condition where you wouldn’t be able to follow a low carb diet I would recommend you read Atkins, Bernstein’s, Southbeach or similar diet plan. I used Atkins myself. You can get all the info you need on there website for following there diet. It’s not like the rumors. I read a review from another blogger that Atkins and Bernstein’s are very similar except that Bernstein’s diet you don’t have any phases. Its like doing Atkins stage one forever. You can read some of Bernstein’s online for free also.

http://www.diabetes-book.com/readit.shtml

http://community.atkins.com/all_content.jsp

http://www.southbeachdiet.com/sbd/publicsite/...

Hope your condition improves soon. Just remember that eating high carb starchy foods is like eating a bowl of sugar and will have the same effect as sugar does.

Kevin

nanaellen
nanaellen 2011-03-08 11:05:37 -0600 Report

Thanks for even still talking to me!! This has been nothing short of feeling helpless!! Something I'm totally NOT used to!! I'm always the one who helps everybody else, not the one who needs it!! I started out with high blood pressure so YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY SALT. Then 6 years ago I went to work (Of all things to be I'm a COOK) and I couldn't see who was coming in the front door!! For someone with perfect eyesight let me tell you I was scared to death!! Had no idea then what it could be, called my Dr. who sent me for a blood test @ the hospital. They called me 10 minutes after I got home and said "You need to call your Dr. immediately your levels are off the chart" I still had no idea what they were talking about!! The Dr. told me I had Type 2 Diabeties and needed to take insulin shots 3 times a day and one @ night!! I was still working then so even though it was a strain I could still afford my meds and stuff. Went and paid $475.00 for glasses and 3 or 4 months later when I got my BS back to normal I didn't even need them anymore! At this point I tried really hard cause I HATE needles and got everything under control so I didn't HAVE to have any shots during the day just the one @ night! Then got sick last Oct-Nov and had to go into the hosp. Had pancreatitus which they gave me morphine for for 4 days and then removed my gall bladder. They sent me home and 2 days later I was back in the hosp. for the pain again. Couldn't hold anything down and the pain was awful!!! It took me 3 months to get my BS back under 300!!! We had to up my insulin from 23 units to 47 units PLUS he put me on Metformin pills twice a day! When I first started my BS was 488!! Just got my BS's down and ended back in the hosp. AGAIN for a whole week!! O.K. so NOW no SALT no SUGAR and now because of the pancreas problem no FRIED or fatty foods!! Somebody just shoot me NOW!!!! I LOVE veggies but I've always been a sandwich person and I can't stomach wheat products they make me nauseas. I usually bake everything but it's so VERY frustrating!!! There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EASY ABOUT DIABETIES!!!!!!!! I'm sorry your wife is not more sympathetic! My husband and I are seperated because I caught him gambling again but he doesn't understand either!!!! Haven't been able to work since last Oct. when I got sick and all I kept telling the dozen or so doctors is " I'm sick and tired of BEING sick and tired" FIX ME!!!! but until I can get a grip on all this I can't even BEGIN to look for another job!!! My husband collects SSI because he got lung cancer and had to have a lung removed so he can't work anymore and I'm raising my 13 year old grandson so my income @ THIS POINT IS very LIMITED! I've prided myself on not having to ask anyone for anything I've ALWAYS done for myself. I raised 4 kids by myself! When I did ask for help with my insulin nobody had the "Funds" but I know people that went to the same place because they needed help with rent $950.00 they got it. I only needed $200.00 for uuuummmmmm LIFESAVING INSULIN!!! i HAVE TO GO FOR A TEST THURSDAY FOR MY PANCREAS and THEY want $400.00 up front!!! My MOTTO for the last 2 years had been if there's a no win situation Ellen's in the middle of it!!!!! Thank you again for ALL your information I TRUELY appreciate it!! Ellen
p.s. My primary Dr. will give me my meds for free WHEN he has them he just doesn't have them all the time!

Steve45694
Steve45694 2011-03-05 18:43:50 -0600 Report

Your not alone when it comes to the cost of supplies. I'm sure their are lots of people on DC that have the problem you are having. Right now is the time you need friends for support, not to run them away. Talk to your doctor and maybe he or she can help you with your supplies. The product you use may be able to help you with your supplies. Go to the companies website and see. I take Humalog and Levemir insulin and Symlin and Actos oral pill. The websites for my insulin can help you with your insulin if you can't afford them. Go to your county community action or other government office and see if they can help you. If it weren't for my insurance I couldn't even begin to afford all the medicines I have to take on a daily basis. Good friends are hard to find and the support here on DC is like no other that I have found. Good luck, hope this has helped in some way and God Bless!

nanaellen
nanaellen 2011-03-05 18:54:56 -0600 Report

Thanks Steve I have applied to the manufacturer of my lantus insulin and I do qualify for their program but it's going to take a month before I can receive my insulin. It's just a very frustrating game of hurry up and wait!! I'm REALLY not trying to run anyone away I'm not a bad person just a very frustrated one who is usually in a LOT of pain!! That's why I apologize to Kevin and I certainly didn't want to offend anyone I LOVE this site!!! But this diabetes thing is driving me crazy!! Everytime I THINK I have it under control something happens to set me right back to the beginning again. It's like having a full time JOB just trying to keep track of everything!!!! Gotta sign off for now I'll be back tomorrow!!

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-05 19:28:21 -0600 Report

I know the feeling Ellen. It is really FRUSTRATING. Your reply to Kevin earlier exhibited that frustration and in hindsight we see what we said might have been sharper than really intended. I think almost every diabetic feels that way from time to time. That's why this community is so precious to me because we do understand what it's like because we've been there

Blessings to you and yours.

James

Flustrated
Flustrated 2011-04-14 14:55:30 -0500 Report

I agree it is flustrating. But ouch I wouldn't want to hurt myself on purpose. I keep hoping I can get a good A1C and be happy. I have my faith in God. I keep watching GOHST and see those scary things drag you to you know where. That scares the heck out of me. Hope you feel better Ellen.

Steve45694
Steve45694 2011-03-05 19:06:56 -0600 Report

I would love to share something with you if I may. I'm going to send you a friend request and hope you accept. Thanks!

CaliKo
CaliKo 2011-03-05 13:57:34 -0600 Report

I don't think you are rubbing salt in wounds either. I like reading your posts and get some good tips. Thanks for being here.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-05 13:32:30 -0600 Report

From my perspective you don't rub salt in wounds. Sometimes things people may say about you, says more about them than it does about you. (I think I'll leave it at that)

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