Need to know if anyone else has heard of this????

mkhojh99
By mkhojh99 Latest Reply 2011-02-24 10:00:25 -0600
Started 2011-02-15 21:41:28 -0600

My diabetic assessment team wants me to consider a gastric surgery later this year. I am oh my I cant believe Im doing this but here it goes. I am 5'0 and 226 so I am thinking about it. I have thought about it in the past…and researched but the cost and whatnot prevented me from going thru with it. This year as some of you have read I am VERY serious about getting myself healthier hence the buying of a treadmill and having all my teeth out in March. Thing is gastric bypass kinda scares me…am leaning more towards the band…but my team says gastric bypass is better for diabetics because you go thru a hormonal change that really inpacts diabetes. I would like to know if anyone has had a gastric surgery and if they have heard of this change??? I am tryin to have an open mind about it all. I am kinda worried about being sicker then I am now after surgery but I am not forgive me but super heavy. I would just like input on this please…THANKS everyone in advance…will be waiting to hear from anyone and everyone…


26 replies

pixsidust
pixsidust 2011-02-20 11:49:24 -0600 Report

Its a drastic surgery to go through and a toss up on how you will turn out.
I can say you are not walking enough. Try 20 minutes, morning evening and at bed plus the walk during work. Watch TV as you walk. Change some part of your eating to try and kick your metabolism up.

mkhojh99
mkhojh99 2011-02-19 22:43:13 -0600 Report

by all the replys here am not sure I wanna have either procedure done! lol. I do want to be healthier but at what cost? I do not drink so that would not be my problem. My regular doc didnt like the idea of surgery…I have to say one thing about him…he is handsome and his last name is Hauser…my Dad referred to him one day as Doogie Hauser cuz he so young…now I cant get that out of my head! I am not sure what to do but one good thing is I dont have to decide anytime soon!!!

Lady_Phoenix
Lady_Phoenix 2011-02-18 19:52:26 -0600 Report

I have also considered this surgery. I asked my pcp about it and he was adamant that I NOT have it. According to him, the risks far outweigh the benefits. He told me to eat properly, get more exercise and see what happened. He was right. i am down 85 pounds and OFF my diabetes medication. My last Ha1C was 6.0. I was familiar with the risks, but having a dear friend die as a result of this surgery finalized my decision once and for all. Please, please try everything else BEFORE you consider such a dangerous procedure.

HisTxLady
HisTxLady 2011-02-18 05:23:06 -0600 Report

Many many moons ago my Mom had a surgery that was the first steps to what we have for Gastric Bypass today…it was called stomach stapling…they folded her stomach in half and stapled it together to make it smaller. She had a scar that went all the way across her abdomen and when they did an x-ray you could see the staples, she called it her shark bite lol. But as I said that was in ummm like the 70's I think. I know I was still little. My Mom and my Aunt had it done in Dallas at the same time. Mom did lose a good bit of weight. She was a nurse and she had to use one of those tables that go over the beds to eat from, to lean on to get from room to room, a few months after her surgery she did not need it any more. But yes…then, just like now…she gained it all back then went on her own diet of watching what she ate and exercising and was doing great. I myself have had the Dr suggest it to me also but I told him I did not want to have surgery unless there was no other option.

My husband and son bought me, now don't laugh, but they bought me an Xbox 360 with Kinect and I am up moving around like crazy with it and having a blast. Oh and I am also losing weight too yeah lol.

Just pray about it he will help you and think about it real hard and ask a zillion questions heck ask 2 zillion if that is what it takes for you to be happy with your decision but be sure to make it your decision not anyone else's.

I did a post in here today about a product that I have found that they say works about the same but no surgery. Now I have not tried it myself and my post is a post of "What do you think?". You might take a min to check it out and ask your Dr about it.

http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/9727

God Bless :o)
Lori

panda3106
panda3106 2011-02-18 00:22:06 -0600 Report

I had the gastric bypass in 2001! I lost 150 pounds but today it is all back!!I was taken off the pills for my diabetes but i am back on them today!! I also am anemic cause of the bypass and have to get iron transfusions 12 times a year plus b12 shots monthly! I am always tired which coursed me depression!! I feel like a failure!! I put myself through hell to be thin and today i am still fat and i am sicker then before my surgery

CarolynVB
CarolynVB 2011-02-17 17:31:20 -0600 Report

For some this surgery is a "quick fix". I know several people who have had this surgery and have lost 2 family members to complications after the surgery process. Some of have done well, but most have gained back weight or had other complications as the lifestyle change is hard to be consistent with. I think this is a life change, you will never eat the same, never be able to "cheat" with a treat for a special occasion, and no alcohol - period. If you are willing to live that strictly, then this may be the route for you. I would seriously pray over this and talk to other patients who have had the surgery. I believe there are some areas that have support groups for post-surgery patients. A list of your personal pros and cons would also help you determine if this is a lifestyle you can deal with, consistently, for the rest of your life. Good luck to you, whatever you decide.

Steve45694
Steve45694 2011-02-17 14:45:16 -0600 Report

I know people are different and have different outcomes from this type of surgery. My cousin had the Gastric Bypass and she almost died from it. She was bleeding internally and they had a hard time getting it stopped. I'm not sure what happened that caused this but I know after the surgery you are limited on what to eat. I think she had to have only puried (I think I spelled this right) food for a while. She has since recovered from it, but haven't talked to her or seen her in a few years to see how she is doing. I would really pray and research about this real hard, before making a decision. hope this helps!

mkhojh99
mkhojh99 2011-02-16 15:38:34 -0600 Report

wow…thanks everyone…I am carefully thinking about it. I have not decided to do this for sure but they suggested it and I said I would think about it and do some research. I do walk daily…I walk at work for 12 minutes on my break and also do at least 15 mins a day on the treadmill I bought. I think also when I have my teeth out I will also loose some due to eating differently. So some weight loss will come with that. So I have a few months to decide but wanted input on this subject.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-02-17 18:31:47 -0600 Report

PLEASE don't be PRESSURED to do it. (Please, I want to be clear, I'm not saying "don't do it" Just don't be PRESSURED into it.) Can the Drs unbreak an egg? You have the option to try it later. But I'd say give it a good try to get your weight down on your own.

Blessings to you and yours

James

mkhojh99
mkhojh99 2011-02-17 18:36:02 -0600 Report

RIGHT…I will not be pressured…but I will wait and see how much I loose with no teeth LOL I have been walking a lot and watching what I eat better but once these teeth come out will help me as well!

rdrosellijr
rdrosellijr 2011-02-16 13:03:32 -0600 Report

I had the surgery done in 2005, I'm 5'7", my weight was 325LBS and I weight 185LBS now, I all so went from taking 60 to 100 unit of insulin twice a day too taking none, Just take two pills and my AC1 went from12 to 5.5 and my daily blood checks our around 100 and peck around 175 to 200 after I eat but returns to around 100 so that is great…but on the other hand I had damage to my eyes and kidney and bladder problems which all our stable now all so. Do not know what to tell you one way or another it is a change in life stile, you eat a lot of smaller meals, some food textures were harder to eat and sweets I am not till this day able to eat a lot of cake for example…talk with as many people that have had it done, because it is different for each person. all I can say it is a mayor life change.

mkhojh99
mkhojh99 2011-02-16 15:32:16 -0600 Report

thanks for the info…I know it is different for all but wanted input to help me make a decision.

melissa5786
melissa5786 2011-02-16 10:03:43 -0600 Report

My best friend's mother had the surgery a few years ago. She is not diabetic, but she has had a great deal of success with it. She has troubles with some foods, that make her sick. And it's all a toss of a coin. One day she's fine and the next the same thing she ate before makes her sick.

Personally, I am not a fan of the surgery. There are plenty of ways to stay healthy and loss weight. However, I would never discourage someone who thinks it's best for them. Mainly because I am not in their shoes and I don't know how hard it is for them.

I'd make sure you have the proper insurance to cover all of your medical needs before, during and after the surgery. Make sure you're 100% committed to this lifestyle change. And sit down and talk to your family. They should be your biggest support system and stick by you through it all. And help you when you need it the most.

And of course you have all of us. Emotionally this is going to impact you and you'll have to adjust whatever treatment you have for your diabetes as well. Maybe more often than you'd like or are now doing… I'm sure whatever choice you make will be the perfect one for you. I just want you to weigh all your options and see what is truly best for your life.

Stay happy and healthy :)

suzanne59
suzanne59 2011-02-16 09:46:58 -0600 Report

My Vascular surgeon has suggested that i have something like done. I'm 5-9 and weigh 270. Which over the past 5 years i have already lost 140 lbs. But I also have other medical problems that keep them from wanting to do this. It's hard to loose weight. Thank God for a family that gives me a lot of support.

MewElla
MewElla 2011-02-16 08:20:06 -0600 Report

For me, I would do my best to watch food intake, and do baby steps in walking everyday, rather than risk complications unforseen down the road with the diabetes. The surgery will not make the diabetes just go away. I would be scared too. I have faith in you that you will make the right decision for you and your daughter. God Bless you.

dianeforb1
dianeforb1 2011-02-16 03:08:35 -0600 Report

Always risks with surgery, and being overweight won't help, why not try going for walks, light exercise at first, then gradually do more if your comfortable to do more, I believe in you, you can do anything you set your mind to. Don't let people drag you down, set a realistic goal, and go for it, you can do it. =) And, stay away from all flu, vaccines etc all those kinds of shots , sry that was random but trust me.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-02-15 22:36:45 -0600 Report

This topic is a rough one. There are many pros and cons to it and you need to sit down and consider them honestly with a close friend or family. This will impact you, but it will also impact them as well.

I have a dear friend who did it and it was covered by her insurance. HOWEVER, complications that came 6 years later were not covered and she is now facing bankruptcy because of the medical bills. So make sure you are covered before, during and after.

Her surgery was a great success. She looks great and feels generally good, but her life has changed and some of it is not so nice. So don't let any question go unanswered. Ask them over and over again and see how many different answers you will get.

This does not make your diabetes go away. It is a tool that help you control your diabetes. If I only ate 3oz of food every time I ate, I bet my numbers would be lower too. So be ware of the "cure" offering. If you eat the wrong things, you can still have to deal with the sugar, so make sure you are eating as healthy as you can before the surgery so you can continue in that vein after.

It is a HUGE decision and it should not be taken lightly. Here are some other discussions here about it. http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions?query=gastric+bypass&by=relevancy

Elrond
Elrond 2011-02-15 22:33:55 -0600 Report

I know very little about weight loss surgery and diabetes. For myself, I'd gladly accept some of your excess weight. (I'm 6' 0" and 149 pounds) but my brother had most of his stomach removed a few years ago in an attempt to lose weight. He is 6' 3 " and at the time weighed over 400 pounds. He was never diagnosed as diabetic but was extremely unhealthy. Over the course of the next few months, he lost 250 pounds. But within 2 years, he was back to 350 pounds and remains there. Now he is plagued by 'dumping syndrome' and many other side effects of the surgery and he is still grossly overweight. If you choose surgery, explore your options carefully.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-02-15 22:38:24 -0600 Report

What is dumping syndrome?

Elrond
Elrond 2011-02-15 22:41:47 -0600 Report

his stomach overfills until he bloats then suddenly empties into his bowels where they can't process it fast enough, causing diarrhea.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-02-15 22:48:30 -0600 Report

Oh wow. That has to be horrible for him. See, when you start messing with the body it gets crazy. Like when you take your car to the mechanic to fix one thing, suddenly there are 10 other things that go wrong. I am sorry for him and that pain he must endure.

Elrond
Elrond 2011-02-16 05:06:28 -0600 Report

He's been miserable with this for quite a few years. The only treatment is further surgery with no guarantee of success and the possibility of further complications. I agree with Harlen; losing weight the old-fashioned way, with diet and exercise is no doubt the best way to do it.

Harlen
Harlen 2011-02-15 22:24:07 -0600 Report

Frend if I was you and I was able to drop a little at a time I would do that
I know of some people that dad it and died I dont wish to lose that much that fast I am going to do it slowly just like it whent on there are a LOT of risk in doing the bypasss and the lap band.But I am not your Doc but for me its not a good gamble .
please keep me posted on how your doing ?
best wishes
Harlen

Nanny G
Nanny G 2011-02-23 23:15:12 -0600 Report

I have researched this for almost 2 years. I know quite a few people thru my Endo's office and all are happy with their choice. Only one had a post surgical complication with a hernia.Some are post 5 yrs and doing well , some only 1 year.My Endo, my cardiologist and my Orthopedic Dr are feel it would be the best thing to do. My son is a PhD in Clinical Pharmacology and is a research scientist and has done a lot of research for me.I posted an email on my page that he sent me with a link for information but it gets technical a bit. But i'll repost it here for you. I know he said you can't compare the stories of what people had done before the RNY. The Lap band is not as effective if you read the reports.

Mom -
I found this very informative, helpful web page from the well-renowned Cleveland Clinic on Bariatric surgery. I'm sure you've heard most of this info already, but the evidence is certainly compelling. The 2 attachments go hand-in-hand with this. The diabetes stats from the ASMBS are directly from 2009 CDC report. The papers from AJM are stats from meta-analysis from over 135,000 pts. Important to take note of the different procedures performed and the > 2yr reported results (Table 7). I believe this to be a very good possibility after reviewing all the research and there has been A LOT done from many big facilities. But you know me and we are constantly working on new products but they are only in early clinical trials. Don’t know how long you want to keep putting this off.
I believe new therapeutics will greatly help like the incretins (we have 1 in clinic currently that is GLP-1 agonist fused with monoclonal antibody for longer half-life/bioavailability), but you can't deny the published results about the RNY. Lap band is OK but doesn’t show the same long term results. Always something to think about.

https://weightloss.clevelandclinic.org/index....

Hope this helps a little. I have not yet decided either but the chance at stopping further neuropathy and other complications makes it well worthwhile considering.
I have 2 friends who both had amputations done in the past 18 months due to leg ulcers. One happened while he had a broken leg and the ulcer formed under the cast and could never be healed. Foot turned gangrenous. Stuff like that is scary to think about too.