Would You Do Something This Drastic to Not Have Diabetes Anymore??

DiabeticParents
By DiabeticParents Latest Reply 2012-01-11 17:24:09 -0600
Started 2011-02-08 14:07:43 -0600

On the way to dinner on Saturday night with the kids, I tried to get my husband's attention.

"Sorry, I was just deep in thought."

"About what?"

"I was just thinking about if we ever struck it rich what I would do. And I was thinking that one of the things I would love to do is go to Brazil and get a stem cell transplant."

"Really?"

"Yeah. I've been reading up on it, and I know that the stem cell transplants only last 12-18 months, but I wonder what it would be like to live without diabetes. It's all I've known my whole life. And although it's not always a big deal living with it since it's all I do know I would just like to know what it would be like to live without it. Even if it's only for a brief time."

The comment came out of left field for me. What would you do if you had enough money to live without diabetes? Would you consider doing something like this, even if it was only temporary?

(My husband has been T1 since he was 4 years old).


30 replies

kalihees
kalihees 2011-02-11 05:09:21 -0600 Report

I would get gastric bypass surgery. I have heard good reviews about how this helps diabetes if you are overweight. The Stem Cell thing I don't think I can handle.

roshy
roshy 2011-02-10 19:13:20 -0600 Report

to be honest i think id buy a nice car or something!! i think it would be way to emotionaly draining to all of a sudden be free of needles for a whole 12 to 18 months and then have to go back to a life with them again!! its after taken me 6 years alomst to get get used to it, and i dont think i could spend a whole 6 years getiing used to it again!!

I have coeliac disease ( condition for people who dont like that word) and id love to be able to eat proper bread again ! but sure life could be worse i suppose!!

Im getting a pump hopefully during the summer and to me this is going to be all the freedom i could ever ask for!! its goin to be like winning the jack pot! cant bleedin wait!!

PetiePal
PetiePal 2011-02-10 15:25:30 -0600 Report

Type 1 is especially hard because you truly DIDN'T do anything or there wasn't anything preventable really at all…I know Type 1's who are rocked hard by that fact. I'm sure as a Type 2 if I was more athletic and watched my sugar/carb intake I could have staved off diabetes if not for life at least well into my 40s/50s.

I don't support abortion, but if there was something like wisdom tooth or adult stem cells I might be open to it. It's quite a lifestyle change and I still get pangs of annoyance at not being able to just eat like everyone else.

I'd rather make a huge sacrifice for a permanent change than temporary. I'm healthier overall bc of my Diabetes so it's a tough decision.

Rainerm
Rainerm 2011-02-09 18:06:42 -0600 Report

After accepting the fact that I had Type one Diabetes (I was 20), I went through what they called a 'Honeymoon Phase'. I had to take the 4-5 shots a day and test my sugars 6-8 times a day for a few months, when, it seems, my pancreas tried to give one last ditch effort to produce insulin. I was able to stop the shots and test 1-2 times daily. I knew it was temporary, but it was amazing. I felt like I didn't have a care in the world. I think that lasted a month…maybe two.
When my sugars started going up again, it was devastating! I felt like I was starting over! I don't think I would do it again unless it was more permanent. 12-18 months would go by so fast and going back to the constant pokes and anxiety afterwards would be a horrible reality. Don't get me wrong…I have completely accepted my diabetic journey in life, but I have forgotten what it is like to eat without insulin and a glucose test and I don't think that I would want to remember unless I could stay that way for good.

theladyiscrazy
theladyiscrazy 2011-02-09 12:53:46 -0600 Report

After watching a friend of mine go through stem cell replacement twice (he has cancer) and the difficulties that ensue, NO WAY. Of course, that is me. I feel that watching what I eat and taking meds a lot less invasive and a lot less potential for problems. Again, this is for me. The risks and just the recover do not out way a temporary fix, in my humble opinion.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-02-09 08:27:02 -0600 Report

My husband's doctor told him if he was able he would also look into stem cell research for his paraplegia. There are some wonderful things going on in that research.

realsis77
realsis77 2011-02-08 20:05:47 -0600 Report

Hi. I'm a fairly "new" diabetic only six month I've known. I have to take shots daily at least two or three. Although I'm getting used to it it is difficult. I really don't think id go as far as a stem cell transplant for temporary relief. If I had lots of money their are definantly more things id rather do than a transplant.it is a tough and terriable disease that requires a lot of balancing.I supposed I've excepted that I have to live like this forever. I do wish they had a cure for everyone but until then I suppose I like everyone else will have to do what we can to get through the day.

oldbuttercup
oldbuttercup 2011-02-08 18:16:26 -0600 Report

I am not against stem cell solutions from placentas of live births. I could not live with myself if I knew the placentas came from aborted fetuses. I would not begin to say my life is more important than that of a baby. I would sooner give my life for my children than ask someone to give their life or the life of their children.
I truely believe life begins at conception.
May God Bless You.

theladyiscrazy
theladyiscrazy 2011-02-09 12:51:27 -0600 Report

A side note, science has proven it is adult stem cells that are effective not embroyic.

oldbuttercup
oldbuttercup 2011-02-09 20:33:11 -0600 Report

That is very comforting news for me!
Thanks for sharing.
I would gladly donate my stem cells to help anyone with their quality of life.
May God bless you.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-01-09 12:47:07 -0600 Report

Those stem cells could be autologous (harvested from one's own stem cells) and from what I read are most plentiful in your bone marrow. So Autologous stem cells should not have the issues of tissue rejection which would occur if someone else donated the stem cells. Then one should not have to worry about contracting others' diseases either. But there often seems to be a glitch or two along the way,

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-01-09 15:49:27 -0600 Report

that may be true, but yet nothing seems to be gelling quite yet.

I started this search for discussions on stem cells on DC because I was thinking of telling the site about a hospital in mexico which claims to use stem cells to repair hearts, and, among other things create new beta cells. Wanted to see if it had been reported somewhere. Then I got drawn into some of other discussions.

When I spoke about glitches I also had my late wife "Jem" in mind. She had A LOT of "medical challenges", diabetes, congestive heart failure, lung problems, kidney problems, and the list goes on and on. I thought that she'd be an ideal subject for such stem cells. Except for 1 thing: she also had systemic Lupis Erithrimosis, (SLE) an auto immune condition which attacks the organs of her own body as though they were invaders. So even if the setm cells would be introduced and fix her organs, her SLE would attack her own organs as they were being repaired. The SLE made it not practical to do transplants of heart lungs and kidney.

The subject is fascinating!

oldbuttercup
oldbuttercup 2012-01-10 04:46:18 -0600 Report

Sadly in my opinion, it is not how far the medical profession has come, but that a big reason why more progress has not been made boils down to profit, so wonderful people like your late wife "Jem", are expendable. Maybe in some distant future people will matter more then ecomomic gain.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-01-10 11:01:57 -0600 Report

the way this ole world is going the only future where that will be the case is heaven, IMO.

I have become rather jaded in my nearly 60 years of life on this planet. I haven't given up hope entirely, but it flickers in the dark recesses of my soul, giving me hope and a bit of light.

And if there was a lady who was almost universally admired and LOVED by her Drs it was Jem. If those Drs had a secret knowledge of things which might help her, I didn't think they'd with hold it from her. So the secrets are with held at a higher level if they are with held at all.

oldbuttercup
oldbuttercup 2012-01-10 14:31:06 -0600 Report

I'm sure you are still a wonderful person, despite all the hardship you have had, and your deep loss. I know in my heart that it wasn't the doctors that refused her treatment. I blame the pharmiasutical companies and private industry interests. They hold profit higher than human life. Once in a while we still hear of miracles. They are too far, and few in between.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2012-01-10 15:15:15 -0600 Report

I think what I have gone through has made me what I am today. It is alll "grist for the mill" as the saying goes. And I believe the sweet and loving person which Jem was was BECAUSE of her hardships she faced in life. I have a lot of stories I could tell you about what SHE went through. It made me feel positively healthy by comparison.

I just jump in and post about my experiences and my researches on Google, and let others make their judgment of my character. There are some folks here on DC, as in real life who genuinely like me and others who loathe me. I don't worry about it because to change who I am to try to please those who loathe me, will probably not work anyway.

Blessings to you and yours!

oldbuttercup
oldbuttercup 2012-01-11 17:24:09 -0600 Report

Your reply reminds me of a line from the 1973 song called "Garden Party" by Ricky Nelson
"you can't please everyone, you have to please yourself".
I am not among those who loath you.
I diagree with those who do.
Blessing to you and yours also!

2011-02-09 04:50:39 -0600 Report

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oldbuttercup
oldbuttercup 2011-02-09 06:53:11 -0600 Report

Why are you posting such inappropriate responses to such serious questions?
We should all have humor in our lives, but some of your responses are over the top.
I have 5 children older than you, and I expect all of them to continue to act appropriately.
I hope you continue to enjoy being part of the community, but I also hope you will refrain from some of your answers in the future.
May God Bless You.

oldbuttercup
oldbuttercup 2011-02-09 20:36:05 -0600 Report

My reply seems a little out of place now that John Crowley deleted the posting that it was in response to.
I look foward to continuing to be an active member in this community.
May God bless you.

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2011-02-08 15:27:29 -0600 Report

What a thought-provoking question. Yes, I think I would fully support my son in doing something like that if he or I had the means to do it.

To give him a year without having to worry about everything that went in his mouth, that would be incredible.

Now, there would also be the harsh reality of returning to the diabetic lifestyle. That might outweigh the relief/joy/benefits of having a "vacation."

Tough call really. But if I had the means and my son wanted to do it, I would fully support him.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2011-02-09 08:33:05 -0600 Report

When I think about stuff like this I usually think more of the harsh reality of NOT being in the diabetic lifestyle, especially for those who have been living it for a long time, rather than having to go back into it. I honestly don't know how I would handle not having to do all the things that are an everyday part of life and are almost done as a reflex, taking blood sugars, counting carbs, looking at nutrition labels, choosing something off a menu, taking meds, etc. Although it's not the same I would think it's similar to a spouse, partner or really good friend dying, something that was such a huge part of your life for so long is just not there anymore.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2011-02-08 15:16:58 -0600 Report

I'd do stem cells or pancreas transplant, even if it was only temporary, if it was side effect free and didn't require immunosupressive drugs.

LabRat90
LabRat90 2011-02-08 15:14:53 -0600 Report

I'm not sure I would do anything that drastic for only a temporary solution. I just went through the gastric sleeve surgery to lose weight and get off so many meds by increasing my good health. But this will be permanent (I hope). I've already lost 66 pounds in 4 months, off Byetta and Amaryl for diabetes, off blood pressure and cholesterol meds, off all but one med for asthma, off CPAP machine for sleep apnea, and can actually exercise without hurting. My husband even looks at me like he used to when we were younger. lol

mkhojh99
mkhojh99 2011-02-08 16:51:03 -0600 Report

lol.way to go…Im looking at a gastric surgery this year…later in the year

LabRat90
LabRat90 2011-02-09 13:42:00 -0600 Report

I highly recommend it. I researched it for a whole year so i had my head in the right place. It's not a miracle cure but it is a nice tool to lose the weight. It has made me get back in touch with how my body feels. You still have to watch your diet and exercise. Make sure you get a doctor that will follow you "for life". There are several types of gastric surgery. I chose the gastric sleeve as the best for me.

Harlen
Harlen 2011-02-08 15:05:26 -0600 Report

Hello
As one that is T2 life without D is good with D not so bad iether
Before D I didnt eat right and realy didnt care with D I need to care and I do know better without D now I would still eat right I like it now lol
Eatting right that is not the D lol
So no I would not go that far for a temp fix
Best wishes
Harlen

CaliKo
CaliKo 2011-02-08 14:20:08 -0600 Report

I'm a T2, without meds, so no, I wouldn't do anything drastic to live without diabetes. Much as I dislike having chronic illnesses, the diabetes just makes me choose healthy all the time. I do sympathize with those that have to take medications and shots, though, I am on an injection therapy for another condition, and I have the luxury of skipping a shot if I just really don't want to take a shot one day without any consequences like one would have if one skipped insulin. Good question.

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