Oatmeal

salthizarro
By salthizarro Latest Reply 2015-10-20 23:19:31 -0500
Started 2011-01-11 13:36:41 -0600

I know Oatmeal can help lower cholesterol But anytime I have it for breakfast ( quick cook) and I check my blood level a couple of hours later it skyrockets all I add is splenda and cinnamon. Sometimes for lunch I add some veg ,olive oil garlic cayenne and a little salt. same results is there a difference with steel cut


53 replies

Dolly Joe
Dolly Joe 2015-10-20 23:14:34 -0500 Report

I read instant not asure good. Just use the old fashioned but with no almond milk now after reading article.

Drmismac
Drmismac 2014-03-20 17:57:20 -0500 Report

Until I tried steel cut oats all grain carbs raised my BG level. I read a suggestion that steel cut was beneficial. To my amazement my body responds at most with a slight rise at one hour and a drop by two hour post eating. Fasting level was 130, after SC oats 109. Cooked in water, added a little half and half and berries for flavor. I am still in disbelief, but my morning levels seem to be down slightly. Another time fasting level was 101 and after eating SC oats it went to 110.
While visiting Ireland I had oatmeal with a splash of Irish creme, forget the sugar or Splenda it only covers the flavor of the oats and neither are good for you.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2014-03-20 18:11:50 -0500 Report

Howdy DrM
I also tried steel cut (aka "Irish oatmeal") and found it raised my BG to an unacceptable level. So I have discontinued eating all products made with grains.

Glad you can eat them! Wish I could!

God's best to you and yourr

James Baker

tabby9146
tabby9146 2012-10-14 19:25:40 -0500 Report

thats too bad. there are many on here that can't eat it at all. It spikes me, but not a whole lot and keeps me full, sometimes I have steel cut, which is better for you, and instant I eat Quaker low sugar… oatmeal. I've never eaten the regular since I was diagnosed. To me, the nutrition is worth it, when my number are good 2 hours later, then to me that is okay with me. But for some, numbers are just too high.

hughsbayou
hughsbayou 2011-10-28 05:11:52 -0500 Report

When I was first diagnosed I discovered that oatmeal, of any kind, was spiking my BG. It has a lot of carb in it and there is just no getting around that. My breakfast is two eggs, some sausages and a half a high fiber muffin. Seems to keep me going to lunch. One has to get radical to affect one's BG over time. If one cuts the carbs to a bare minimum it forces the body to live on fat which will radically alter your metabolism. Trouble is this takes about two to three weeks to affect and if one is used to living on carbs it's very difficult. The carbs keep talking to you.

Now, months later, my BG stays pretty normal all the time and I can eat a half serving of oatmeal without difficulty. But I have the fear that i could trigger a return to spiking BG. I still take the Metformin along with some heavy B vitamins and fish oil. The daily Cod liver oil is a good idea. The Carlson's lemon flavor goes down well.

MEGriff1950
MEGriff1950 2011-10-28 12:02:38 -0500 Report

I have been studing supplements and found a couple that I am trying. Bilberry standardized to 24% anthocnosides (sp) may help lower BG's and warns about dropping blood sugars :). Pantethine the active form of B5 a study of 900mgs a day lowered triglycerides over 30%, total cholesterol by nearly 20% while raising HDL levels nearly 25%. This is especially useful for diabetes since it makes insulin more effective. The more common form of Panthothenic Acid has little or no effect on blood fats. I obtained this information form the book Precription for Herbal Healing by Phyllis Balch. It can be ordered at www.penguineputnam.com but I am going to Amazon to get myself a copy. My sister has this book and I was quite impressed with the information. You will always find sites that state this information may not be correct.

MEGriff1950
MEGriff1950 2011-10-27 18:20:25 -0500 Report

Since rolled oats is my favorite I did a lot of online research. Yes it does spike my blood sugar a bit but the fiber and nutrition is worth it. Try adding some fruit such as applesauce or whole berries with less oatmeal. My BG raises but not as badly. Also adding some protein helps too. I top mine with a tablespoon of brown sugar and a bit of 2% milk.

whitetigress
whitetigress 2011-03-30 17:39:11 -0500 Report

The quick cook form of oatmeal has a high level of carbohydrates. I came across one quick cook that had 70g of carb for a 1/3 cup serving! That is very high. Your bs spiking as a result of eating a high number of carbs is not unusual. There are oatmeals (Quaker large flake oatmeal) that requires 4 or 5 minutes to cook, has only 20g of carb and more fiber than the "quick cook". Steel cut is a good choice, I have found that it is hard to find, though.

nzingha
nzingha 2011-06-11 17:09:59 -0500 Report

reduce the amount u eat.. I tried eating smaller amounts of oatmeal and it worked for me.. I just have a cup.. with cin and all the other spices.. no sweetening and small amount of low fat milk…but I'm like eating amounts that a 10-12 year old would eat..its working wonders for me…everything from a breakfast plate, a saucer for fruits or a tea cup.. small one.. and water to fill me up..small bowl for soups.. small is my new way of life..no use for dinner plates and large bowls anymore..oh no lie.. I use my special coffee cup… but 2 table spoons of low fat milk and i am good to go…

Art Loving
Art Loving 2011-03-30 09:24:31 -0500 Report

Thank you for the gift. I just return from a trip to Arizona. It was a good week.
I'll have to share some pictures.

hoosierphilly
hoosierphilly 2011-03-30 08:21:51 -0500 Report

So today I’m here to dispel the myth that somehow one oat is healthier than the other! Let’s start by looking at these different types of oats…

There are three basic types of oats. There are old-fashioned rolled oats, which are whole oats rolled flat. Then there are quick oats, which are rolled oats that have been ground up a little bit more to make them cook faster. Finally, there are the steel cut oats, where the whole raw oat was cut into smaller chunks.

They all start from the same grains, but they are cut differently. Rolled oats are steamed slightly to make them cook faster, but otherwise, they aren’t any different from steel cut oats.

The extra processing isn’t a big deal, because you have to remember this process called digestion where you break down food to absorb it. So these oats are all the same once they get past your mouth.

So you see, rolled oats and steel cut oats are the same food, just cut differently. Saying they’re vastly different in nutritional value is like saying a sandwich cut straight down the middle is healthier than a sandwich sliced diagonally into triangles
Amount of Processing – If there is one area where steel cut oats have a real health edge, it’s the lack of processing. Both types of oats are cut, but the rolled oats are steamed (which cuts down cooking time later.)

So there is a chance steel cut oats contain more vitamins and minerals, but don’t fret – even rolled oats contain a whole oat grain. You’re not losing valuable parts of the grain (bran and germ) like you would with white bread, which is composed of “enriched white flour” where the real nutrients are bleached out and then the bread is “fortified” to make it appear nutritious on paper.

And don’t forget – steel cut oats need cooked for quite a while, while rolled oats are pre-cooked and ready to eat right out of the canister. So whatever advantage steel cut oats have is lost, unless you can somehow eat them uncooked.

Gemm
Gemm 2011-10-28 09:54:35 -0500 Report

I use the old fashioned rolled oats that do need cooking for about 15 - 20 minutes stove-top or about 5 in the microwave. I don't like the pasty flavor of the instant or quick-cooking varieties. When I can get to the Amish store, about an hour away, I love to get their 7 or 9 whole-grain rolled mix. It cooks just like oatmeal and has a very hearty flavor. A few times when the rolled variety wasn't available I've gotten their whole grain mix that isn't rolled. It cooks up fairly well though it takes more time to cook, and it is a lot better if it can be soaked over night first.

I have also found as others have stated, I too find that the quicker cooking and instant raise my sugars higher than the old-fashioned. I haven't had the 7 or 9 grain variety since I became diabetic last year so I'm not sure what it may do to it. I also find that the amount that my oatmeal does raise my sugar count is worth it, for me, as I love my oatmeal and it helps with some of my other problems, especially my cholesterol (not as much as I'd like but does help) and blood pressure as well as the high fiber content I need for my IBS (constipated with no diarrhea).

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-30 08:32:04 -0500 Report

My meter says there is a difference between "instant", "old fashioned rolled" and "steel cut" for me. Instant spikes me highest, old fashioned rolled not quite so high, and steel cut not quite as high as that, but still higher than I'd like. I cooked each with water, and ate it with no sweetener. So for me, at least there does seem to be a difference between the different types of oats. —- but that's just me. Your mileage may vary.

hoosierphilly
hoosierphilly 2011-03-30 08:15:53 -0500 Report

Has anyone tried tried using natural stevia instead of splenda (which we had used)or whey low (suppose to be used = to sugar in receipes. We have hread splenda etc is still spikes our bloods. Has anyone notices a difference if they used splenda. We are using it, but can't really tell as other things are in play too.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-31 16:26:46 -0500 Report

I've used WheyLow. I got it for my bride because she couldn't stomach the non-caloric sweeteners of any kind. I really can't tell much difference taste-wise from table sugar. It does raise BG#s but not as high or as quick as table sugar.

MoeGig
MoeGig 2011-03-29 20:02:43 -0500 Report

I am sorry, you can't eat oatmeal…super high in carbs with or without splenda. Spikes my blood sugar every time.

patch12
patch12 2011-03-30 02:25:55 -0500 Report

Steel cut oats are does not spike your blood sugar. Steel cut oats are not refined, like rolled oats. It does take a while to prepare them

jerrymc
jerrymc 2011-03-29 17:55:10 -0500 Report

this morning by level was 90—-ate oatmeal checked roughly 2 hours later 161 checked again in about 30 mins it was in 150 range—just got home 5 hours from eating level 90 yet my dr said my sugar is not being controlled by meds—-what gives is test at home that reliable?

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-29 20:03:30 -0500 Report

if it is a standard "serving" and it raises your numbers over 50 points (had you taken a baseline reading before you ate?) then you might want to reconsider eating it at all. If you hadn't done a baseline Blood Glucose reading, then on another day do the baseline, consume what is considered 1 serving and then test 2 hrs later.

jerrymc
jerrymc 2011-03-29 20:22:52 -0500 Report

i have to eat breakfest take meds gesssh keeps this up i will have stop eating period—my problem is i need the good meal cause by around 9am i get gitters untill eat at morn break

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-29 20:29:13 -0500 Report

Eggs or meat won't get you there? Protein and a small amount of carbs should last you all morning.

Just trying to help, not make your life miserable.

jerrymc
jerrymc 2011-03-29 20:49:56 -0500 Report

no no all suggestions welcome just never dreamed oatmeal with cinnamon would do that i had read it b 4 i was thinking 90 b s level and dr says meds not control i realize i need loose weight . my thinking was oat meal good for my cholestrol and good fiber diet scratch thatttttttttttt

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-03-29 19:53:53 -0500 Report

Well 161 and one 150 are still high numbers, even if you go back to 90 later. If you have numbers that high often it will show in your A1C. Bouncing up that high is never good, from what I've been told anything above 140 is hurting your body and you should try to limit or completely remove food items that raise your blood sugar 50 or more points.

90 to 161 is a 71 point jump, oatmeal does the same to me so I don't eat it any more. My numbers rarely go over 130.

MewElla
MewElla 2011-02-09 08:25:11 -0600 Report

I have the same problem with oatmeal, drives my numbers high…can't take milk for cereal because it does the same thing. Everybody is different, but for me, I avoid milk and oatmeal for breakfast. Egg works really well for me.

PRP
PRP 2011-02-09 08:20:04 -0600 Report

I came across this today while I was researching the effect of home made granola (Oats + bunch of nuts + little bit of honey & Brown sugar) on my morning sugars. Before breakfast I will be at 95 - 110. One hour after my breakfast my sugars are at 148 and after 2 hours they comeback down to 115 - 125 range. I know that the after 2 hour range is good but my question is should I be worried about my after 1 hour range?

A brief background about me: Type 2 Diagnosed 9 months back. Started at A1C of 6.6 and my recent (4 days back) A1C is 5.4.Currently no diabetic medicines just on strict diet and exercise, but taking Lisinopril for borderline hypertension. Usual morning levels around 100 most 2 hour after levels around 125.

—PRP

PS: Being a vegetarian feel like my choice of breakfast is pretty limited. I am looking for suggestions even though I really love my wifes granola.

judy makowski
judy makowski 2011-10-27 23:45:05 -0500 Report

If we took our sugars every hour there would be a difference. BS fluctuates all the time. We could test in one finger and 5 minutes later it would be differnt. Doc told me 2 hours after eating would let me know where my sugars were. If you count the carbs in your honey and brown sugar and add it to the oats you will get a pretty good feel for how many carbs you are getting at that meal.

It is my understanding that 5.4 A1C is great. Normal in fact. So keep up the good work

judy makowski
judy makowski 2011-10-27 23:40:48 -0500 Report

Me too. I can't eat instant it raises my sugar to much. I can eat old fashioned and I think that's because more of the whole grain is still in the oat. I did find that I had to watch my carb count. Their portion is larger than some people are allowed. I get 30-45 carbs a meal. so their serving size would be 2 crbs. I have also found that some protien helps with slowing down the digestion of carbs so I try to have an egg and some nuts . Some fruits also have a higher sugar content than others so that is one area I have to be careful of.

Watching this has brought my A1C level down from 9.8 to 7.5. I am also on insulin but my sugars were out of control and running in the 350-400 range for months before I could get into an endocrinologist. He did some tests and found I was being under treated for a slow thyroid and I was low in vit. D3. And he stressed it had to be 3. He said that the vit. was extremely important in control of smooth muscles in our body the heart and bones. That just about everything is affected by vit D. Just a thought. Hope it helps

PetiePal
PetiePal 2011-01-13 10:12:45 -0600 Report

I can't have oatmeal or even steel cut oats. Even the normal portion carb-wise skyrockets me and keeps me high…maybe because I'm sensitive to it, or maybe because it just takes awhile for that type to be broken down in my blood stream.

I need to try out Farrina or Cream of Wheat and see bc I'm super getting sick of my breakfasts and I can't even eat regular Cheerios.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-01-13 21:00:36 -0600 Report

Think outside that box...try a brunch approach and use things like salads or more lunch type of foods for breakfast. The other day, I had a spinach salad with my eggs. It was great.

CaliKo
CaliKo 2011-01-13 10:44:24 -0600 Report

Sometimes I eat a boiled or deviled egg if my numbers are running high in the morning, or if I won't be able to exercise, then a whole wheat mini bagel or tortilla later in the morning for a snack. Breakfast is the most difficult meal sometimes.

RAYT721
RAYT721 2011-01-13 09:54:11 -0600 Report

I believe everyone's body and tastes are different. I know people who eat bagels while others cannot. I know people who can eat ice cream and those who cannot. I am sure the same is true with oatmeal or any food. I let my meter and body and taste buds tell me the "dos" from the "don'ts."

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-01-12 18:27:09 -0600 Report

I find that steel cut oats are better for me than rolled oats. I never use the packaged kind. I always make my oatmeal fresh. The steel cut oats take a little more time to cook, so I put them in the slow cooker (I have a small one that I use) when I feed the dog and when I wake up about an hour later, they are ready to eat. I often drop in a pat of butter, cinnamon and maybe an apple. I make it with water, not milk.

Kirla
Kirla 2011-01-11 19:31:49 -0600 Report

I told my doctor that oatmeal spiked my blood sugar and he said if it spikes your blood sugar don't eat it. Best advice he ever gave me.

2011-01-11 16:29:04 -0600 Report

I do very well eating oatmeal because of all the fiber in it. I make 1/2 cup with water, then add cinnamon, and some berries. You might also consider adding a protein with it, like an egg white to slow the absorption.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-01-12 18:28:16 -0600 Report

I do that with my cream of wheat. I don't eat it often, but I pop an egg in that and it is yummy.

Argarcia9206
Argarcia9206 2011-01-11 15:05:00 -0600 Report

It could be the amounts your eating. I can only have a 1/2 cup for my levels to be normal. Just a half ounce more and I start spiking.

Harlen
Harlen 2011-01-11 14:41:49 -0600 Report

Hello
Oatmeal kills my BS every time I just cant have it
and no steel cut roild quick oldfation it all sends me way way high
Best wishes
Harlen

MewElla
MewElla 2011-01-11 14:09:35 -0600 Report

It's crazy…oatmeal should be so good for you. But, it does the same for me. I have tried it 2-3 times . I do best with high protein for breakfast, numbers are then very good. Everyone is different I know, but this works for me. Good Luck to you and welcome to the site!!

veggie1962
veggie1962 2011-03-30 07:50:12 -0500 Report

Did you ever try eating some protein along with the oatmeal to see if it helped?

MewElla
MewElla 2011-03-30 08:01:58 -0500 Report

I did, but the oatmeal overpowered it I guess. BG was still high, so I just stay away from it now…

veggie1962
veggie1962 2011-03-30 08:48:17 -0500 Report

Did you try decreasing your serving size to see if that helped. I've had to do that since going on an insulin pump (cut down my portion of oats, actually had to switch to oat bran so I wouldn't spike too high and that works).

salthizarro
salthizarro 2011-01-11 14:16:23 -0600 Report

Thanks for ur input.

veggie1962
veggie1962 2011-03-30 07:51:33 -0500 Report

You might want to consider trying oat bran. It is much higher in fiber than oatmeal and that can help blunt the spike. Also, the suggestions to add protein might help too.

signsofchange
signsofchange 2011-03-29 12:49:46 -0500 Report

It does the same thing to me! I like the suggestion about adding protein powder to it. What do you eat for a high protein breakfast?? I am really struggling.

jerrymc
jerrymc 2011-03-30 17:23:36 -0500 Report

" What do you eat for a high protein breakfast??" yes i would like to know what high protein breakfast would be ? i loved my oat meal this morn wife fixed 2 small pancakes . i checked b.s b4 meal—120 this was at 4:45 am then went to work checked it at 6:20 am b.s 119 that was after taking meds i take glipizide/metform 5-500 mg