I Just Had To Post This

By Richard157 Latest Reply 2011-07-14 03:06:03 -0500
Started 2010-12-16 22:15:22 -0600

A message from a friend:

"Let me get this straight…Larry King is on his 8th divorce, Elizabeth Taylor might get married for 9th time, Britney Spears had a 55 hour marriage, Jesse James and Tiger Woods, while married, were having sex with EVERYONE; and national divorce rate is more than 50%…Yet the idea of same-sex marriage is going to destroy the institution of marriage? Really? Seriously. Let's proudly support equal rights for ALL."

18 replies

RAYT721 2010-12-18 06:29:45 -0600 Report

There is, was and will always be a question regarding homosexuality as to whether it is preference, perversion or pre-determination … and is one of our last safe prejudices. It should be time to bust through the myths and misconceptions on homosexuality, which is said to be around 10% of the world. This is not a high percentage but with the number of people in the world is a staggering number of gay and lesbians among us. The 10% we are talking about pay taxes, vote and support our lives … shouldn't we support theirs?

Why shouldn't gays be allowed to marry, serve in the military, or coexist with non-gays? Those who believe that a topic of equal rights does not belong on this website is missing the word "connect" in the domain name. Diabetic Connect is, in my opinion, a place to connect with diabetics. This does not mean that anyone who is not diabetic is not welcomed here. Some members are here solely for the information on diabetes while others are here for the friendships and ability to practice the freedom of speech. There are members who are not diabetic or who others may feel are not "diabetic enough" if you care to restrict who is and isn't allowed here as well as what should and shouldn't be posted.

I believe that Richard's post on equal rights belongs on this website as much as it would belong anywhere for diabetics and non-diabetics alike. The post is about tolerance, acceptance, and human emotion. This is not a post about sex or recruiting gays or for any other purpose than to get people to think about others and their feelings and their rights.

For those who are on this site solely for the diabetic information, it's great to have you here. There are so many discussions of interest to you. For those who feel that it is solely for diabetics, you may be in wrong place or at least participating in the wrong discussion for you. I suppose that is what equal rights is all about.

cavie2 2011-07-14 02:46:48 -0500 Report

Wow wish I had said that. You go RAYT721. I love my Bible and God. But I do believe each to their own, regardless of color, religion, age, sexuality etc,. My mother always taught us to respect and accept other people the way you find them.

bobec4 2010-12-17 18:02:50 -0600 Report

I thought this site was all about diabetes. but since the subject has been brought up I might add that studies have shown that same sex relationships are far less likely to succede than opposite sex relationships. also there comes a point when tradition has some value. Not everything can be politcally correct at all times. While I do not have a problem with same sex relationships I also do not feel the issue should be shoved down everyones throat. In the future I hope we can stay along the lines that this site was designed for and keep our own political views to themselves.

GabbyPA 2010-12-18 13:38:03 -0600 Report

My personal view is that marriage is between the people who seek it and their faith or god. There should be no need for marriage licenses, no need for tax issues revolving around marriage and no need for any political or industry persuasion at all. Marriage is a man made institution. Love is universal.

Soon they will start to say that diabetics will not be allowed to marry other diabetics because they will have diabetic children. Governments have tried this in the past with people with disabilities. I know that is over simplified, but that is what starts to happen when we start to put limits on things. The lines get fuzzy as time goes by and powers that be change.

Love is the natural law. It will not change. Only man made laws change and they don't always serve us well.

cavie2 2011-07-14 02:49:27 -0500 Report

very eloquently put Gabby and I agree wholeheartedly with everything that has been said.

bobec4 2010-12-18 19:42:29 -0600 Report

My argument was not with the fact of gay marriage at all. It is not my place to judge anyone on their sexual proclivities in the least. It seems to me that only the popular stance on things is allowed to be said here so I will end with I wish you all peace. I will not be responding to another discussion on this site again in the future. I will simply read the recipes and the news articles and be done with all this agrevation. Have fun everyone.

GabbyPA 2010-12-19 13:30:00 -0600 Report

Bobec4, I would hate to see you leave because of one discussion. There are thousands of other discussions that are less "sticky" that would continue to benefit from your input. Even here, you have offered enlightenment. Perhaps, in the future, just skip the ones that bother you?

The thing is, prejudice knows no limits and as diabetics, we are all needing to keep an eye on things that produce any kind of discrimination. It is often in the guise of "good for you" but it often is just a liberty robbing ploy.

cavie2 2011-07-14 02:59:40 -0500 Report

My sentiments exactly, there are dozens of videos and discussions on this site. So many in fact that if one does not appeal to you try another. If you don't like the discussion look for one you do like. There are tastes for everyone. Stress is a major factor in raising BS. If someone is gay or lesbian they have enough prejudice thrown at them to cause their BS to shoot through the roof. If they want to discuss that then it's fine with me. Now I know not everyone agrees with that and that is fine each to their own and we are ALL entitled to our opinions. You cannot please everyone all the time. I just wish more people practised tolerance towards other people the world would be a much nicer place. Just noticed the date for this discussion is from last December. Oh well nothing ventured nothing gained. lol

Lymy 2010-12-17 20:09:19 -0600 Report

The backbone of the membership are members or loved ones with this dreaded disease. But, it is also a sounding board for getting whatever is on your chest that could ultimately be causing a negative reaction to controlling ones diabetic life and style off ones chest. Hopefully getting ones mind and soul back to the backbone of the membership. If talking about this subject makes it easier for a member to function even if 99% of the membership are or are not in agreement with the members point of view, the member should still be allowed to do whatever helps his/her diabetic life & style.

bobec4 2010-12-17 20:50:02 -0600 Report

My point is that the argument presented is very flawed. For every heterosexual example that was given I can give an example of a same sex relationship that didnt make it as well. The fact of the matter is that todays society doesnt care about tradition or really have respect for each other. That is the reason relationships (same sex or opposite sex) relationships do not work out.This site for me is a safe haven to get away from all the usual junk that I have to listen to on a day to day basis. I meant no offence in my previous comment. I would just hate to see this discussion board turn into the discussion boards that you can see anywhere else on the net. This site is fantastic with so much to offer people with diabetes that i would hate to see someone disreguard the site because of the political views presented here.

cavie2 2011-07-14 03:06:03 -0500 Report

It would be sad if you stopped joining in the discussions bobec4, I don't think anyone would want you to do that. Your opinion on any subject is just as important and valuable to you as mine is to me and everyone else will feel the same about their opinion. Just to clarify a point I would like to say that there was nothing political about my view of the subject in question, I don't like politics, can't understand most of it, and could care less about any politician or political party. My view came from the heart.

Shanan 2010-12-17 13:11:51 -0600 Report

WOW! Never thot of it like that… Love knows no age, sex, race, etc. I totally agree with you!

melissa5786 2010-12-17 09:58:56 -0600 Report

If anything the average, heterosexual relationship is what ruins the sanctity of marriage. Love is love. It doesn't see color or genitalia. No one tells me who I should love, so I'd never tell someone who they should love.

BandonBob 2010-12-17 10:42:39 -0600 Report

I really like the second part of your answer and agree whole heartedly. The first part about relationships is not necessarily true. What it should say is the average relationship. Problems in relationship don't see color or orientation either.