A concern for a friend

By thabrat30 Latest Reply 2010-12-15 10:22:43 -0600
Started 2010-11-12 13:07:24 -0600

Hello friends!
A few days ago I was called by one of my very best friends. She started asking me questions about what I eat and how I cut the carbs and sugar from my diet. In the conversation she told me that her doctor told her that she needs to cut the carbs and sugar from her diet because her sugar was too high. I asked her what it was. She had said that he told her it was at 102… which I thought was a great number. I started asking questions when she told me that he put her on Metphormin (sorry if I spelled it wrong) and no meter! He told her to eat 4-5 servings of fruit a day and to cut the carbs almost completely… no bread, no pasta, no potatoes… just meat and other veggies. She said that an hour after taking the meds, she spends an hour and a half in the bathroom… which in talking to my mom is not a good thing. I have tried to get her to go to another doctor. She said that she can't because she is on state medical insurance. I am trying to help her, but am getting increasingly worried about her. She told me that during a test at school she had a hard time focusing and has been really tired lately. Any suggestions? I am not aware what dosage the meds are. According to her, he didn't give her any specific number when it came to carbs and such, just to cut as much as she could.

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Susanpwd2 2010-12-15 10:22:43 -0600 Report

My thinking is if she going to a community health center like I am in which mine is fantastic and my regular Dr when I had insurance never tested me. When I did a fasting I was 250. Yikes! I wondered how long I have been like this? Anyways, if she won't change the Dr. perhaps she can seek out a endocrinologist providing her Dr now will give the okay for it since you need a referral. Well in my case here they do. In the meantime…educate her. This Dr. is a quack because she is normal with that 102 reading and just because other family members have had it doesn't me she will or has it. She can be monitor. Tell her to go to the ER.

thabrat30 2010-11-22 11:39:22 -0600 Report

I talked to her over dinner of Dreamfields Penne pasta, pasta sauce and zucchini. I checked her bs before we ate and she was at 90.

She went to the doctor on Thursday as they rescheduled the Tuesday appointment. They told her that they are treating her aggressively because 2 people in her family passed away do to complications with their diabetes. Yet they wont right her a prescription for the meter and test strips because with out a "diabetes diagnosis" the prescription wont help with the cost. They told her that if she doesn't want to take the meds that she didn't have to, but they would help her to lose weight. She said that they also said that if she wakes up and her bs is 110 or lower that she didn't have to take the meds that day, which doesn't make sense to me. My understanding of this medication is that it works through the liver so how is this effective? She has purchased a meter and strips and is eating better. I will keep you all posted on how she is doing… unless I can convince her to join herself!
Thanks to all,

Doc 720
Doc 720 2010-12-15 08:48:32 -0600 Report

She needs a new Dr. Now. You know as well as I do that no matter the Rx, you just do not stop your Rx. Adjustments can be made for some, but others no.

She definitely needs to see another physician. Taking any of the diabetic meds without BG monitoring is dangerous. Even if it is as few as a couple of times a week.

As mentioned below there are too many free meter offers out there.

thabrat30 2010-12-15 09:00:01 -0600 Report

She wont change doctors. I have tried to talk to her about it. It isn't the cost of the meter that is the issue… but the test strips. I will continue to talk to her and keep track of what is going on.

MissVV 2010-11-13 22:27:41 -0600 Report

omg, You absolutely can not be serious here. Tell your friend to call Arkray at 1-800-888-5957 and ask for the free glucocard meter, test strips, and wellness kit offered on the back of the diabetic living magazine for winter 2010. (Its got 10 strips in it which is better then none.)

I am living proof going to the right doctor will be the awnser for her. My sugar was over 237 fasting in April, I was put on glucotrol, and my sugar went to 300+, I saw an endocrinologist who told me keep your carbs between 120-130 a day and eat 20 grams of protien per meal (80-90 grams a day), and it's working! I may be able to go off Metformin in February!

The big plus is following this doctor's advice to a tee, I have alreadt lost at least 30 pounds!!

I wish you and your friend all the good fortune I found leaving my home state to seek treatment.

thabrat30 2010-11-14 07:43:34 -0600 Report

I was going to test her sugar when she got here this afternoon and see where it was at. I may go and buy her a cheap one like I have so that she has one and my mind will be more at ease.

RAYT721 2010-11-13 19:11:53 -0600 Report

Wow… that just doesn't sound right. Maybe she misunderstood the 102 for her sugar where it was another level because I only wish I were 102 fasting. I don't really understand the state insurance situation but I would think that there are other places she can go for testing, like Walgreens had a free testing the other day and I think they have another coming soon. Check the website. I had a higher number than 102 and was not put on meds. Something doesn't "click" here. Unless your friend is prone to eating spaghetti and potato salad sandwiches on white bread I don't see how "no bread, potatoes or pasta" is gonna help her because some of anything and everything is "good" so long as common sense and moderation are used. I agree with Jayabee that someone with her may help to make sense of it all. Perhaps asking for a copy of her blood lab results could also fill in the blanks of what she may not have heard versus what she did hear. It's okay to cut things out of a diet but cutting back is a better alternative because the body still needs some fat, protein and carbs whether diabetic or not. Even the increase of fruit and vegetables is good advice to a certain degree but not to live on them alone. Doctors are like cholesterol … there's both good and bad.

thabrat30 2010-11-14 07:42:09 -0600 Report

Ray, I am sure that she can go to another doctor. She is just a little worried because everytime she changes something her caseworker cuts her benifits. Scary when you have a small child and are a single mom that is still in college with a part time job. I hope that we are able to talk to her and get her some info that she can take back to the doctor. I would love to go with her to the doctor and hear what he has to say to all of my questions. I hope by giving her some insight she will be the one asking all the questions.

kdroberts 2010-11-12 13:12:00 -0600 Report

How old is your friend? Was the 102 a fasting number or after eating?

thabrat30 2010-11-12 13:18:32 -0600 Report

She is in her mid twenties and I think that is fasting. She is coming over this weekend so she and I can talk and she can go back to that doctor on Monday with knowledge and start asking questions.

GabbyPA 2010-11-13 20:42:50 -0600 Report

Would she be comfortable if you went with her to the doctor? Sometimes having experienced ears in a room can help her ask better questions. I know if I don't write down the things that the doc tells me, I can get them all messed around. Also, have her get a copy of her lab results. She needs copies of that every time she gets them done so she can look at them when she is in the quite of her own space. It allows good comparison. She has a great friend in you, together you guys can learn how to better manage, even though there are some differences.

jayabee52 2010-11-12 17:41:50 -0600 Report

If it is possible Valerie could you go to Dr with her? It always helps to have another set of eyes. ears and brain there, especially in cases like this.

thabrat30 2010-11-12 21:32:00 -0600 Report

I am not able to go with her but will try to get someone to go. She wasn't going to come over until my boyfriend (he's like her big brother) called her and "suggested" that she come over and visit for a while.

Guardianstone 2010-11-14 04:10:06 -0600 Report

Let her know what you found out.
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