Newly diagnosed and confused...

By lmb2749 Latest Reply 2010-11-18 16:08:05 -0600
Started 2010-11-10 17:08:36 -0600

Hello, all. I am newly diagnosed type 2. I feel like I'm just all over the place with my diet. I still don't really know what to eat or when to eat it. All my doc said was watch the carbs and exercise and take my pills. Well, the pills make me nauseous among other things. It says take with a meal so I do, then midway through the meal I start feeling sick. I am losing weight, I don't know if that is good or bad. I guess it's good, I am overweight. I really love fresh fruits and vegetables so I don't have a problem there other than I don't know which one are good or bad.
I probably eat too much of them, too. I have cut way back on meat, which I love. And also on the bread and such. No problem doing that.
So, what's a girl to eat when you can't eat what you want?

35 replies

Lakeland 2010-11-17 07:46:31 -0600 Report

I agree you should take a diabetes class, this is part of what I learned & here's something that helped me.

Eating a high fiber carb, makes the body work harder to break it down into sugar, so try to choose them, for me the sandwich thins, I use for toast. the longer the body tries to break down the fiber the more full you'll feel.

Fruit is good for you but it is natural sugar so for me, I cut back on it, or I'll eat the fruit & not drink juice in the mornings, at least I'll get the fiber from it.

for me, meat is not bad, it doesn't affect blood sugar, but I'm overweight too & a normal portion size according to the class, is not what I'm use to eating. So I did cut back on my meat.

I was told that the body can't tell the difference between carbs, so If I want dessert, I'll skip the bread, if I want the bread, I'll skip dessert. if we went for pasta I'd skip the bread & had meat in the sauce to get protein. if you can get a carb book, I just started to discover, that certain things weren't worth eating, the portion size for a diabetic wasn't that much, so I chose foods that I could have a lot of. I enjoy puzzles & started to look at this as an experiment & enjoyed the learning part.

they told me to try to eat throughout the day to prevent spikes in sugar, so I will eat carrots & something as a snack, & at first I'd check my blood sugar 2 hours after I ate & that gave me an idea of what foods spiked my sugar numbers.

if my number was high I'd go for a walk, I just took my sugar often at first to see how much a walk would knock off my points & it really would make a difference.

it's gotten easier, halloween candy was a problem, I shouldn't bring it in the house but I did. so I'm not perfect.

It did help, I lost 40 pounds, but not because of dieting, it was because, I watched my diabetes numbers & cut the carbs, & walked.

My sugar was 550 at the start & my a1c was 10.3 Now my average a1c is 5.3

Best wishes.

dorway 2010-11-16 17:02:06 -0600 Report

Try this for starters.

1. Stop consuming diet soda's that contains Aspartame and Splenda.
2. Don't eat any foods that contains phenylalanine (a.k.a) Aspartame
3. This includes Chewing gum too that contains phenylalanine
4. Don't consume foods that contains MSG ( monosodium glutamate )

This should help lower the sugar and should drop weight naturally without exercising.

5. Use Stevia for a sweetner and you can use it for baking. Only use the actuall STEVIA and not the alternative stevia brands that adds Ingredients.

Stevia is a natural herb and good for coffee, tea.
Walmart now carries Stevia next to the vitamins in the pharmacy.

6. Get a filter for the tap water and stop drinking the Sodium Flouride and taking baths in flouride too.

7. Exercise. Just don't sit around. Walmart is a good place to get in 10,000 steps a day in.

8. Try Buttermilk for the nausea

LeadSinger 2010-11-15 14:24:24 -0600 Report

OK, several have given you good advice. NOW, get an appointment with a Registered Dietician. He/She can help you set up your eating program. You need to learn to count carbs. A little book (website too) called Calorie King can help a lot (most foods are shown), especially since some fruits are not that great for you (high carb count). Unless you have a major cholesterol problem, don't worry about meat & cheese. Nuts are also a great, relatively low carb snack or meal supplement. BTW, the dietician, if referred by a dr can be covered by your insurance…

lmb2749 2010-11-15 15:54:11 -0600 Report

Thanks for some good solid basics. I did not know insurance would cover dieticians, good to know. Yes, I actually do have a pretty serious cholesteral problem but keep it controled very well with medication. It's the triglycerides that are the bigger problem. I'm allergic to the meds they tried to help lower them so I use fish oil to help but the count is going up even more because of the dibetes. I've never had a normal, healthy, trig. count. I can't recall any number lower than the 300's since I was first tested many years ago. After three heart attacks and four stents I still try to get them down to no avail. Doc is kind of stumped over it too. So, I try to watch my meat consumption now but I don't always do a good job of it.
Thanks for mentioning the nuts, I hadn't thought of them being low carb. Maybe I can work them into my diet.
And I'm going to check out Calorie King, too. Someone else had mentioned that, also.

idamtnboy 2010-11-13 18:36:29 -0600 Report

My diet approach is high protein, low carb (lower really, low is nigh impossible), and let the fats fall where they may. I do try to keep from indulging in fats, but I don't avoid them. There is disagreement among the medical and pseudo medical community about how much fat intake really does affect cholesterol. The body manufactures it mostly rather than extracts it from food. High protein, low carb forces the body to convert existing fat into energy, a conversion that is a lot harder for the body than converting carbs into energy. Weight is best controlled by total caloric intake. My recommendation for losing weight - have an affair! A love affair with hunger pangs. If your tummy isn't growling at least a little bit before each meal you're eating more than your body needs. Sadly, there are no pat easy answers for anyone of us. You'll just have to do research about diet, blood sugar, and everything else and figure out what works for you. If you want to be in that crowd that frustrates doctors, "Just give me a pill to fix it. I don't want to change." you are doomed to failure and future ill health for sure. But, from what you have written I don't believe you are one of those! So, keep your chin up, keep at it, cry when you get frustrated, and take your time. You will do better but it won't happen overnight.

A book that gives a pretty good idea how the body uses carbs is "Sugar Busters." I don't buy everything the author says about sugars and carbs, but he gives a good description how the body processes sugar and the interaction with insulin. By the way, insulin is necessary for life, but too much of it is a poison. You want to avoid going on insulin as long as possible.

lmb2749 2010-11-15 15:28:04 -0600 Report

I love that thing about the growling tummy. That's a good rule to follow and I would have to admit that my tummy doesn't get a chance to growl very often.
I would love to just "take a pill and fix it". But I know that is not the answer. I'm getting to old to be looking for the easy way out. Time to get down to serious business. I'm sure I'll kick and scream all the way and cry a little, before I wake up one morning and say "hey, this isn't so bad, I can do this".
Yes, I do want to avoid insulin. That is scary, I don't want it. That's why I know I'll make it through this with diet and exercise… even if it does take a while.
Thanks for sharing some of your knowledge and encouragment.

Emma2412 2010-11-12 22:16:10 -0600 Report

Welcome to DC!
This is a great place where you can get a lot of help from people. I find when I'm depressed and come here, I can get out of that funk quicker than if I try to do it on my own.
Anyway, I've been diabetic for about 10 (?) years now. I think it all started with having yogurt in the mornings with fruit.
Personally, I think that each of us is different. We must over a period of time decide which foods are going to react well on us and which foods will put us over the top as far as blood glucose readings are concerned. I find also that recommendations sometimes from other people about what to eat don't work for me. So, I would just start testing different foods for yourself. It'll take time, but the goal is better management.
Like if I have potatoes, for instance, I won't have any other high carbohydrate food in that meal. It's important, also, at each meal to have all of the food groups: protein, carbs, and fat (the good kinds of fat). That's impotant. Try to have carbs that will either move out of your stomach almost immediately (fruits) or that will not spike your BG (for instance, beans).
I know what you mean when you say what are you supposed to eat when you can't eat what you want. But I think if you try the South Beach diet you'll see that life is not going to be too bad. The SB diet is great for diabetics, I think, or at least it's been great for me. Try it. I need to lose weight, too, and the SB works well for me. You can try it and see how it works for you. You can find it on the Internet. I would not do the Atkins diet becuase of all the bad fats in the diet.
About the nauseousness from the meds, I would call the doctor right away and tell him/her about that. I don't think that should be happening.
You take care. I know it's not always easy to deal with diabetes and I've been in a funk many, many times about it over these years, but at least here at DC we can talk to people who understand what's going on with us. Also, you'll find that Gabby, a Patient Advocate on this site, is a great person to talk to. Send her a note. You'll also see various other patient advocates and site managers and other people who you can talk to on this site (you'll see their pictures and names at the top right of the home page here).
You take care.

lmb2749 2010-11-15 15:04:14 -0600 Report

Hi, Emma. Thanks for some great tips and sharing your thoughts. It just so happens that I already have a copy of the South Beach Diet book. My daughter gave it to me several years ago and I never did much with it. I will dig it out and dust it off and put it to work. Anyfhing that will help me get a better idea of what and how I might eat is welcome. I have also looked over the recipe section here on DC and found several things I'm excited to try.
My biggest problem is going to be learning to eat completely sugar free because I do not use artificial sweeteners. Never have. They turn my stomach. And I can tell if something has it in it right away. My stomach knows. I don't know… is it ever ok to just go ahead and have some real sugar? I do still cheat and have a real Dr Pepper now and then (not diet), and a couple of squares of my beloved Hershey bar. Oh, I'm cheating already and I've barely started! I know, I know, it will get better as I learn more. But it really is discouraging in the begining. Thank goodness for places like this and people that are willing to share and encourage others.
Thanks for sharing.
Blessings, Linda

Emma2412 2010-11-18 16:08:05 -0600 Report

Hi, Linda
I've been doing some reading today on sites that I frequent that concern themselves with diabetes. One is; another is Both have some excellent recipes for diabetics, the kind of recipes that don't make you feel deprived.
On I clicked on "Viewpoints" and was reading some stuff by a Scott Johnson. I read his "Breaking a Habit" and "Too Hard on Myself." Let me know what you think if you find time to read what he says.
I wish I could do without the Splenda, but I have such a sweet tooth that I need that "sweet" taste. I find I like Splenda best. I tried all of the others and they all have weird tastes. It's good that you can do without the sweet taste. That's great.
I think you'll like the South Beach Diet. And, if you're in for that sort of thing, you can also go online at their site and sign up and do the diet online. I've never done it that way. I've always just used the book and then go online if I have questions or want other recipes. They have good recipes, too.
I wish I could get over this bat of depression that I've been going through for the past month. I've been cheating because of it. I was reading today about the fact that people with depression react either of two ways: One is they don't want to eat anything or it makes them sick if they do eat; the other is they overeat and even eat when they're not hungry.
I'm sorry to say it, but it's the second thing that I do all of the time when I'm depressed. I've been doing that for about a month now and have gained back about 15 pounds that I had lost.
I know that I'll lick the feeling, but haven't so far. But what with Thanksgiving coming up, I better do it soon. LOL
Talk to you soon.

CaliKo 2010-11-15 15:30:10 -0600 Report

I don't use artificial sweeteners either. Minimal sugar in real food recipes, as long as the carbs are counted is fine. Sodas are never good for you, but you probably already know that. A small piece of chocolate, like a square of dark chocolate, is a much better choice than a milk chocolate bar.
They say you can eat anything, as long as the carbs are counted, but I no longer believe that entirely. I feel bad if I have sugary snacks, and the swinging blood glucose levels makes me moody and makes my body temperature go up and down. You will need to experiment by eating and testing with your meter, all of us are different on what we can eat. And I'm sure it also changes as the years go by, and our activity levels change. Exercise improves everything. Good luck!

lmb2749 2010-11-15 16:11:06 -0600 Report

Thanks, CaliKo, for the bit about the sugar in real food recipes. And, yes, I do know soda's are bad :) I will have to try the dark chocolate to get my chocolate fix.
And yes on the exercise… I keep hearing that and will be happy to see that start working for me.

chopi 2010-11-12 18:46:25 -0600 Report

It is'nt easy in the begining and feeling overwelmed is understandable. I had problems with metformin at the start, it gets better. I also found if I take mine 30 to 45 mins after my meals I'm much better. My BS when I was diagnosed was 420 that was a month and a half ago. Now I run between 91 and 145. Exercise with the right diet makes all the difference. Please find a diabetic specialist. You will find they will do so much for you it's amazing! Hang in there and keep your head up!! BEST WISHES

lmb2749 2010-11-15 13:58:04 -0600 Report

Thanks for that tip. I have been taking the Metformin after meals and it makes a big difference.This morning I had my lowest BS reading yet, only 123 for my morning test. I guess maybe the metformin is doing it's job. It's all slowly coming together. I'm sure I'll do fine with all the good advice and tiops I'm getting here.

sNerTs1 2010-11-11 09:25:08 -0600 Report

OMG you could be my sister!! Thats a good thing btw. Wow when you are first diagnosed with diabetes it sure is a shock. First off … breathe. Yep just breathe and relax. Diabetes isnt something you need to stress yourself about, it just causes more problems.

The medication … (this is the reason I said you could be my sister) I had the exact same problems with mine and let me tell you it is not fun at all being that sick! I am on MetFormin. I started out taking a half tab in the morning and a full tab at night (500mg tabs). The morning pill made me sick like yours does and I just could not stand it. I lived in my bathroom for the three months and had enough. I switched my meds around (under doctors care) from morning to afternoon, etc. Finally I ended up taking just 1 pill after dinnertime. It works for me. We all react differently to medications so it is very important for you to work with your doctor on that so you can level out and be more comfortable.

About your diet (I so LOL'd @ Ray ~ ya goof) … it is true, it takes work to find out just what works well for YOU and what doesnt. Yes you should watch your bread intake but not all breads are "really" bad for you. Whole grains are better because they absorb into your body differently than say "white bread". Im not sure why you have to cut way back on meat other than you might be used to meats that are processed and have a ton more salt in them. You might want to look at chicken and fish more if you like them and the other white meat called pork LOL. Check out the recipe section, you will find things in there that really taste good =) Did your doctor tell you how many carbs you need in a day? Thats a good thing to go off of. Just learn to read labels and watch yourself.

The best thing I can tell you about what to eat and what not to eat is … to try it and check your sugars afterwards. We all meabolize differently so what might work for one wont for another (I stole that from someone on here, shhhhh).

Exercise is also key as well as making your mind healthy. Even if you take a walk or if you dont like that, if you have a stationary bike or treadmill or even walk around your house more. Take the stairs instead of elevators, etc and slowly build up your stamina to work into more. As you go along, you will find that you can do much more and feel better =)

DONT be afraid to ask questions and learn. Knowledge is key to your well being and there is NEVER a stupd question, well yeah there is, its the one that you dont ask :P~

I hope this helps in one way or another.

Have a Beautiful Day ~ Cheryl

lmb2749 2010-11-12 10:52:18 -0600 Report

Well, hello sister! I think I'm getting over the worst of the "sick" from the pills, thank God. I take Metformin 1000 mg morning and evening. I do still have that creeping nauseous feeling most of the day but the "other" is tapering off.
I say I've cut way back on meats because I LIKE MEAT and I know I have always eaten way too much. And gernerally I like it FRIED! I know that is bad for me. I have had two previous major heart attacks and one little one, if that makes sense. I have four stents in my heart. I take all kinds of meds for heart, cholesteral, and triglycerides. Doc told me the triglycerides are going up now (I did have them down pretty good) with the diabetes. So, I figure it's a good thing to cut back on the meat now too. I do love chicken and fish and most of all pork. I have never eaten much red meat so that is not a problem. And lately nothing tasts good anyway so I have not been eating much meat at all.
I have been in general poor health for the past few years so this new diagnosis was just the last straw. I'm not ready for this to take me down. I'm ready to do battle and come out the victor. I just need to figure out how to get started. I've gotten great advice here so far. I'm going to check out the recipes as you suggest. And read around some more. Thanks for your cheery attitude and great tips.
God Bless you

sNerTs1 2010-11-12 11:47:46 -0600 Report

I, again, am LOL'ing @ playing with your foods!! It all does take time and nobody gets it right the first time so never think that you are the only one. It is all trial and error.

As we grow up, we learn how to cook, eat from our parents and well you maybe have just been in that "fried" geography. I am from a large family and well, it was hard for my parents to feed all of us. We usually got pork chops that were shoe leather and I never really knew why people craved ribs if all you were doing was sucking the sauce off the bones … but then I learned to cook myself!! Dont be afraid to try new things, new spices and just see where you can go with it.

Did you know that your cholesterol values change once you become diabetic? While the "normal" ranges are anywhere below 200 ours starts at 180 and THAT is why your doctor said your triglycerides are on the rise, I suspect.

My attitude is a curse LOL!! I took on a parttime job once at a department store during the holidays (I loved what they gave their employees for discounts LOL) and one lady refused to go through my check out line because I was much too happy during the holidays WHAT???? LOL!

Stay cool sis and thanks for the friends add, feel free to pick on me anytime LOL ahem!! IM tellin MOM!

Have a Beautiful Day *Hugs* Cheryl

Kirla 2010-11-11 09:19:22 -0600 Report

I was diagnosed Feb 2009 with a fasting blood sugar of 366 and A1C of 14.1. By drinking 8 plus glasses of water and eating a salad along with other low carb vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, cabbage, cucumbers, pickles to name a few. My blood sugar started dropping fast.

At first I cut all starchy foods to just one serving per meal. By testing before and 1 hour after eating I was able to figure what foods were spiking my blood sugar. I soon found that starchy foods like bread and most foods made of grains along with pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, oatmeal, cereals, chips, crackers, cakes, cookies, candy, soda, fruits, fruit juices and most foods that contain more than 5-6 net carbs per serving as found on the package label all spiked my blood sugar.

Most days I drink a low carb protein shake when I wake up. Mid morning I eat one serving of sunflower seeds along with a fiber supplement and a cup of coffee. For lunch I eat way too much. Got to cut back a little. I will eat a hard boiled egg then eat 2 oz of chicken, beef or pork, then I eat 2 oz of turkey sloppy joe in a bowl topped with salsa, hot sauce, cheese & flax seeds, no bread. Then will eat my chana dal bean dip with either 1 cup of broccoli, cauliflower and or spinach. Then will have a piece of my soy flour chocolate, carrot or pumpkin cake. Last I will eat 1 serving of peanuts. For supper I eat a salad, soy flour noodles topped with a low carb pasta sauce, cheese and hot sauce and lately have been eating my chile dog out of a bowl topped with hot sauce and cheese. Then will drink my chocolate water and then will have my low carb homemade pumpkin greek yogurt ice cream.

By following my diet my blood sugar approach almost normal numbers in abut 4-6 weeks and my A1C dropped to 5.9 in 4 months. My latest A1C was 5.2. I found this was kind of hard at first. Was afraid to eat anything other than low carb vegetables, chicken and fish. Now I have lots of choices and plan on having more in the future.

Good luck

lmb2749 2010-11-12 10:12:24 -0600 Report

Good morning, Kevin. Wow, you really have it all together, don't you. I'm afraid I'm no where near that disciplined. Your story is amazing, I read your blog. I'm going to take my baby steps and try to go a whole day without a DR Pepper and a chocolate bar :) At some point in the near future I hope to eradicate all white foods from my diet (if I must) I don't know that I could ever do what you have done. You are an inspiration, though. I will look back over your blog and see what points I might be able to use as I go along. I'm afraid I'm much too self indulgent and undisciplined. I will have to work on those areas, I know.
Thanks for sharing your story.

RAYT721 2010-11-10 20:55:36 -0600 Report

Greetings and welcome to our community/family! I wish it were so easy as to tell you to eat this and not that or eat that and not this but it's your meter that is really gonna tell you the answers you're seeking. I know people who can eat bagels without bg spikes. I am NOT one of them. Others can eat ice cream or (moderation) natural sugar or whatever product while others can't. I had a dream about swimming in an ocean of ben and jerrys and won't tell you the story. :)

You CAN eat what your body, tastebuds and meter likes. You CANNOT eat what your body, tastebuds, and meter doesn't like. Sorry. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

You can tweak many of your favorite recipes to be "friendly" to diabetes. This can include stuffed peppers, mac and cheese, and even desserts. There's portion control to take into consideration. I don't think a bite of a candy bar is gonna send you into shock while the whole thing (the size of your car) might. I don't think that you need to alter your lifestyle 360 degrees overnight. I think you should take baby steps to use common sense in finding the right life, lifestyle, diet, mindset, and so on and so on… for YOU!!!

Sure I will hear criticism on what I've said. Bring it on!!! :) :) :)

The reality is, "to thine own self be true" … Work with what works and don't work with what doesn't work.

Prayer may not help … but will it hurt???

Talk to your doctor about the meds. Talk to your heart about the rest.

lmb2749 2010-11-12 09:56:11 -0600 Report

Good morning, Ray. I'm a little behind in answering replies, but, life goes on while we are playing on the internet and sometimes we have to stop and catch up.
Your reply was very encouraging. I am one of those that thinks I have to get it all right all at once. It helps to be reminded to slow down and take baby steps once in a while. I will "play with my food" and find what works for me. It would have saved me a lot of stress if my doc had just told me that to begin with.
And, yes, Ray, prayer always helps.

jayabee52 2010-11-10 19:39:23 -0600 Report

Howdy and WELCOME to DC LMB!

If your pills nauseate you then IMO there's something wrong somewhere. Unless I miss my guess, you are on Metformin (you don't say on your profile) which is usually is a starter med for newly Dx'd PWDs (persons with diabetes ["DM"])

You need to report your nausea to the Dr. Perhaps s/he can adjust the dosage. Sometimes PWDs have an initial reaction to Met. that they get over. Sometimes a different med can be given. Work that out in consultation with your Dr.

As far as what to eat, you should eat a healthy, balanced diet in general. Meat, veggies, carbs. Portion control is important.

Your Dr should have given you instructions about how many carbs per meal and per snack you are allowed, (are not the same as calories allowed), or Dr has directed you to a dieticia (RD) or certified diabetes educator (CDE) to educate you about DM, best foods to eat or avoid and about portion control.

As a general rule avoid "white" foods like white bread, white potatoes, white rice. The WHOLE grain breads are better. Yams are better than potatoes (not candied yams) and brown or wild rice instead of white. Cauliflower, though white, is OK.

You probably feel confused by your DM. THAT IS NORMAL! You're in the learning stage of your DM. Let your glucometer be your guide and friend. Every PWD reacts differently to different foods. The only way you can know what you can eat safely is to take a BG reading before you eat, and 2 hours after your first bite of whatever you're checking out, test again. The difference between the 2 hr test and the initial BG reading is how much that food raises your BG#s.

Right now I am testing "steel cut oats" versus regular oatmeal. Steel cut raises my BG#s 30 pts. & regular raises it 40 pts. so then it would be better for me to use the steel cut rather than the regular.

Please, don't feel like you have to know everything about DM right away. Learn about it at your own pace. Here at DC is a good place to learn IMO. Lots of ppl here who have been living with it for a long time. Others here are just learning more as they go along. Please don't get stressed over it ( that'll raise your BG#s too)!

Blessings to you and yours!


lmb2749 2010-11-12 09:44:04 -0600 Report

Hi, James. Thanks for all your tips. I think it will be a battle to get away from all the "white" foods. But I will work on it. Luckily I really like all kinds of food so it won't be a problem to incorporate some of the new, healthier choices, just hard to give up the "old friends." And I think that is probably one of the hard things for anyone…giving up the things you are used to.
No, my doc didn't give me any guidelins at all, except, watch the carbs and exercise. I know I can learn all the ins and outs on my own, given time. But at first it's all a little overwhelming. It helps to find a site like this and meet people that are doing it and have already done the things I need to learn. Thanks for sharing.

jayabee52 2010-11-12 14:35:17 -0600 Report

it might not hurt for the Dr to write up a 'script or refer you to a RD (registered dietician) or a CDE (certified diabetes educator). I think either one could give you targets for carb intake. That may helo a lot.

lmb2749 2010-11-12 15:28:19 -0600 Report

I whole heartedly agree with that. After reading more and trying to figure things out I really think that would be a big help. I'm kind of stumbling around in the dark here. All I know is he said "watch the carbs" so I am terrified of having too many carbs and probably cutting out way too much stuff (if that's possible) As I said somewhere else I'm not eating a whole lot of anything right now between not knowing what to eat and the nausea problem. And I admit to the frustrated Dr Pepper and chocolate bar a little too often :(
I'm going to check around locally and see if I can find some kind of group or something. I live in a very small town and there are all kinds of groups that meet at the library and such so maybe I can find something. Also, I am, I think, the 4th or 5th person in my small church that has been diagnosed wiith this in the last few months alone. Maybe I could even start something there.

jayabee52 2010-11-12 17:26:30 -0600 Report

That very well may be a way to go, Linda, use your church to get something started.

However, I've seen people on this site who get told 30, some 40 and others 45 carbs per meal & 15 carbs for a snack. You have to "eat to your meter". If you try 45 carbs/meal (let's say) you have taken a baseline BG reading before you eat, and then 2 hrs after your 1st bite take a reading again. If 45 puts you too high consistently, then back the carb #s down to 40 the next day till you get a BG# that's right for you.

Your Dr can help you set some BG # goals. If you are successful in keeping your BG#s under tighter control (not too rigid, of course) you and Dr might discuss backing off on your Met.


Harlen 2010-11-10 18:57:27 -0600 Report

Hello and welcome
Ben there done that .
What Gabby sed is right on I cant thing of a thing to add lol Shes smart
The only thing is test befor meals and test 2 Hr after to see how well the pills are working for you.
Best wishes

lmb2749 2010-11-11 11:53:19 -0600 Report

Well, I don't know what I did but I replied to you and I somehow managed to make it disappear. So, I'll start over.

I am doing the testing before and after meals and find that to be just a little scary. I don't really know what the numbers SHOULD be but they look scary to me. Like last night before supper It was 165 and after supper 240. Now, that may be an acceptable range, I don't know because no one has told me that yet. My doc really did not give me a whole lot of information. I'm sure I'll learn a lot from all the experienced people here and from more research around the web.

Thanks for your welcome and good wishes.

Harlen 2010-11-11 12:12:22 -0600 Report

No thats not good I like to keep my BS at 80 to 95 with all I can fined any thing over 145 is hurting your boddy .
You may wish to chat with your Doc it looks like you may need to swich meds.
The pills didnt help me get my BS inline.
Are you testing two hr after you eat?By then your bs shuod be close to norm
I hope this helps ??? Drop me a line any time
best wishes

lmb2749 2010-11-11 12:30:38 -0600 Report

Yes, I'm testing 2 hr after eating. And it's usually high like that. As I said I am so new at this that I haven't really got a good grip on it yet. I probably should admit that I'm not doing my best either. I really need to buckle down and get it all under control. But, it's only been less than 2 wks since a firm diagnosis was made. I'm still pretty lost.

I'm taking Metformin 1000 mg twice a day.

Harlen 2010-11-11 12:45:34 -0600 Report

It's ok it takes time
one of the thins that helped me a lot was righting every thing down
Food what typ how much what my Bs was befor and what it was 2 hr after.
For me it was a year till I got it all worked out and even now there is now things
You may need stronger meds to hep get it under controle
One other thing that will help you a lot the book The Calorie King this little book has saved my life in more ways then I can count.
I helped me understand what I was doing a LOT better.
I am not conected to them in any way !!!!!!
You can look them up at
Best wishes

lmb2749 2010-11-12 15:33:21 -0600 Report

I have been trying to keep track of what I eat, how much and when. I don't have it all together yet but I'm working on it. It's really great to have a site like this to tap into. I'll see if I can find the book, I think I've heard of it before, somewhere. Thanks, Harlen. I'll check out the website also.

GabbyPA 2010-11-10 18:35:17 -0600 Report

It sounds like you have a good idea of what to do, but the thing is wanting to do it. That is the biggest dilemma we all face.

The meds side effects should subside in a few weeks, if they don't then talk to the doc. The weight loss usually comes from simple food choice changes and as long as you are not doing crazy things to loose weight, be happy for such a great side effect.

Fruits are carbs, so be careful with those. Veggies, except for the starchy ones like potatoes, peas and corn are pretty much eat what you want. In the beginning, I ate healthy choices and ate as much as I wanted. Eventually I began to reduce my portions, mostly because I was getting full...something I had not really experienced in a positive way before. I was thrilled. It will come.

Take on one or two things at a time to focus on. Help them become habit and then add a couple more things to work on. When you do it this way, it is not as overwhelming and you build on a foundation that will help you keep it up.

You will do fine. Hang around here and we will help you along.

lmb2749 2010-11-11 11:11:48 -0600 Report

Hi, Gabby. Thanks for your advice. It is very tempting at the start to take on everything at once. I know I have to watch out for that pitfall. It could be very discouraging, couldn't it?

I'll have to watch out for the fruits because I do love fresh fruit. It's so easy to see them as a safe food when in actuality they are not. Thanks for pointing that out. I also love vegetables so I at least I have that to go to. Right now I am not really eating a whole lot because I'm sick at stomach so much of the time. I'm sure hoping that will pass soon. I do have a touchy stomach to begin with.

I'm really glad I found this site, it has been a big help already.

Uncle Lew
Uncle Lew 2010-11-10 19:49:47 -0600 Report

Hi. I’ve been diabetic for 17 years.
The first thing you should do is take a Diabetes Self-management Class. All your questions can be answered there by Certified Diabetes Educators who are RNs and/or Registered Dieticians. Most insurances cover such classes. They are usually given at local hospitals or affiliated organizations.
You should assemble a good health care team:
Endocrinologist for your diabetes
Podiatrist for the proper care of your feet and legs
Ophthalmologist for your eyes
Dentist for your teeth and gums
Primary Care Physician for your general health care needs
With that team you can avoid the complications and pitfalls of diabetes.
Good websites are,, American Diabetes Association, Joslin Diabetes Center, Diabetes Education Society. There are many more than you can find through your web browser.
The greatest weapon we have against our disease is knowledge and education. DO NOT BE AFRAID OF DIABETES; respect it and know the consequences inaction.
Good luck and persevere.

lmb2749 2010-11-11 11:22:23 -0600 Report

Hi, Uncle Lew. I would love to have that great health care team you speak of. But, I don't know yet how all that will work out. I go to the VA for my health care and they have their own way of doing things. It has taken quite a while just to get a diagnosis out of them. I have a very good primary care doc but he is limited by VA guidelines. I'm sure that as time goes by it will all come together.

Thanks for the list of websites. Some I have already discovered but you list a few that are new to me. I will check them all out. Luckily, I am a research fanatic and I spend way too much time on the internet. But in this case that can be a good thing :)

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