A question for writers and politicians.

Guardianstone
By Guardianstone Latest Reply 2010-11-13 02:21:44 -0600
Started 2010-11-09 04:08:17 -0600

As I set here listening to a CD from one of my writers, a question struck me. (I didn't duck.)
Who do I need to talk to about awarding him for his work letting us know of the 'BIG RES'?
As the story continues I realize there is a quiet resignation to the Southwestern Indians.
I have always known that the troubles of yesteryear are still hapening today. I am a 1/8 Michigan Indian on my mother side from each of my grand parents (both 1/2) I know that my father was also Indian, but I never knew how.
Tony Hillerman wrote storys of Indian versus White. Native Indian Police vrs FBI. Cultures clashing. AND life.
Can we give his widow a beautiful memory of a man that is still teaching while entertaing?
I am sad that none of my grand parents would talk about our family tree. 'They were ashambed'.
Guardian stone


62 replies

dorway
dorway 2010-11-13 00:17:23 -0600 Report

Guardianstone here is story you can write…

If it were not for the indians the white man would never survived as it was the indians who taught the white man to live off the land.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-13 02:21:44 -0600 Report

I agree. But I wanted to keep it about the health decay.
It is a good thought, and if handled right could be a good topic.
Thank you
Guardian stone

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 04:49:49 -0600 Report

I started this discussion November 9 2010 @ 4:08
I have been writing for so long I am wearing my stylus down to the nubs.
At 4:41 I am still reading and replying.
The 3 'Rs' now make sense.
Thank all of you.
Feel the love - makes sense
napnap time makes sense.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 04:24:35 -0600 Report

I realy hate to nit-pick but you asked James 'how do you drive insane people crazy?. . .'

. . . that's how!
laughter from my tears.
be good my children and we will have a treat.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-11-12 14:38:58 -0600 Report

actually driving insane people crazy is a waste of gas. They are close enough to simply walk. (and will do their BG#s good too) LoL!

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 01:03:01 -0600 Report

Thanks to all my friends.
With all you have to do you take time for others.

Gabby there is a special place for you. The older sister I needed, and still do.
Ray and James the protective big brother's of DC.
DC has a comet racing through the heavens. The pilot (Gabby), First officer (James), security officers (John and James) and the Ship's officer (Dr. Gary). Our flight coordinator(Ann), Health and MWR crew (Ray, Roy, Robert, and all the people that makes us smile, Spiritual guardians officers (Kailey, and MaMa Dee) You all know how you contribute. Cooks, teachers, cleaers, repair crew, recreational officers, ships counselours and regular stand bys, supervisors, spell checkers and payroll masters, let me know where you belong. I know where I fit. I'm the Admiral. Watch, advise, promote . . . I've changed my mind. I sall be 'SHE WHO MUST BE OBEYED' I like that. I'll sit around and make orders.
1. Thou shall not kill.
2. Do onto others as you would have them do unto you.
4. Love yourself. If you don't like yourself how can you love yourself?
5. Don't allow anyone to take power away from you. They cannot make you release it from them without you granting them that permission to do so.
I like these rules.
I do not give you my permission to steal what I WILL NOT ALLOW. You may not steal it as a sneek thief in the night.
Don't let me see you give others permission to steal your self respect away from you.
THATS AN ORDER!
I HAVE BEEN HEARD.
Dismissed. Now go back to play my children. Mama has to prepare supper. When your homework is done, you can watch tv. Before we go night night I'll read you a story. Be good.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-11-11 09:33:25 -0600 Report

Admiral Stone....that has a nice ring to it. And would you read us the story that you started to write that is left unfinished? Perhaps we could all finish it with you.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 11:46:58 -0600 Report

Do you have your warm milk? Would you like another fresh cookie, be careful . . . they are still warm. I'll get it for you. Gabby honey what kind would you like? Robert dear would you pick our story? Thank you. Now will you get me that book, James? . . . No dear, it's the blue book, yes . . . the one with the teddy bear on the cover . . . yes, that's right. Roy is your ear bothering you? Let me see honey. No theres no fever. are you tired. come sit with me, you can hold the book.
Ray, please pick the story. Oh, That's fine.
Lets make a potty break and wash your face and hands. Dave you are leaving more dirt on the towels. A bit more soap. Good boy. Oh Gabby did you get soap in your eyes? No? James why did you do that to Gabby. Be good.
Now, in bed, No Roy, you've had enough . . . have you all said your prayers? Ok off to bed.

' There once was a man from Nantucket . . .'

Now try to read a bed time story without thinking about that story. Try to keep it rated G and not laugh

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-11-12 07:37:35 -0600 Report

You are too rich! This could be fun

There once was a man from Nantucket...
Who searched high and low for his bucket...

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-11-12 08:07:22 -0600 Report

You started some fun....I hope others will join in. As you said, keep it clean, but we could have some good laughs out of this.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-11-11 02:44:38 -0600 Report

"Make it so number one"

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 04:32:39 -0600 Report

eye - eye sir. Engage.
but . . . but, but sir, I'm already married.

saw your make it so, but the phasers distroyed it completely. Phasers set to dislystic. I just spelled 'to' wrong 3 times.

But, I thought you were James T, nou Jean Luc.
Was I mistaken? Wow I just saw Armond Assante in the Oddosy saying this to his son. Thats scares me out of jokes. It was so . . . vivid.
Spooky.

Pynetree
Pynetree 2010-11-10 08:43:09 -0600 Report

Hey Guardian Stone, I have read some Hillerman too. Saddened by his passing also. It is such a shame that your heritage was lost to you, by reticent Grandparents. I have gotten very involved searching my roots. Would have been so much easier if my Grandparents were not so stoic about their lives and journey, and found it embarasing to share stories, even changing to Americanized names. Would have liked to follow a diabetes , and other, health links.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 20:35:15 -0600 Report

I found a bio of Mr. Hillerman at Wikipida. Type in Tony Hillerman. He shall be missed.
I'm sorry to have caused so much decention with one question.
I have trouble with putting my foot into my mouth hip deep.
Thank you for the support.
You are a dear.
Guardian stone

This is not an accidental repeat. I am trying to respond to those who want to know.
Thank you

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 12:55:58 -0600 Report

I got involved with my family tree after my Grand parents died. I found out I was Indian When my high school asked 'who was American Indian'.
There was special funding for those student's support, and a special council teaching the Indian way. I didn't realize what I gave up for 3 tears of art classes. I could have been taught the crafts of my people. I know what I turned away from now and I am ashamed. I cannot teach my daughter the ways discarded from that 'play-it-safe attitude.
My Grandfather hid his blood by joining White only groups. The Jobs went to WASP first, All except Indian, then maybe Indian.
As Hillerman said 'He was ashamed'.
I understand why he refused to aknowledge:
Indian, Canadian, Irish, Scot, English, French, and German.

The employeers were afraid he'd start a war.
Through my search for 'me' I found out one of my kin was not allowed to vote because his parents left Ireland, left Canada, and came to America. he was a naturalized American. He was born in Canda and moved with his parents.

I understand why, but was hurt for the loss of 'being an American'. I am part of that mixing pot of mixed up chacters.
Don't fordet the Big Blut Day on the 14th at 1400. (2 pm). I'll be there.
Guardian stone

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-11-09 17:59:37 -0600 Report

what does this has to do with diabetes again?

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-11-10 07:40:07 -0600 Report

This site is losing its focus and slowly becoming a hospice.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-11-10 17:56:01 -0600 Report

If you want more fact and less story, we have the News Article section, the Living with Diabetes section and the Health Center. There are many topics here that are filled with facts.

However, never over look the power of taking care of the soul as well. I suppose if we become hospice, then that is good for those who have sought the help to cope with the illness dealt them. I have not read the author that Guardian Stone speaks of, but apparently, many members have and that connection is what we can use to build and encourage one another.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 08:13:54 -0600 Report

Gabby can we give an honarary membership to someone? That way I can do something for all diabetics.
Has anyone became a special friend for us? All of us.
Thanks

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-11-10 16:30:13 -0600 Report

Well, annon, really that is not your concern.

The people who run DC set the rules and they don't seem to be bothered by this line of discussion.

If something bothers you and you think the post (or the whole discussion - for that matter) is somehow abusive you CAN red flag it and tell them why it is abusive. (but I suspect you can't do that under the cloak of annonymitity - they'll know who submitted the complaint).

and I am going to repeat something I told you previously:

"Not every discussion HAS to be about DM !

"There have been SEVERAL jokes discussions, others where we generally gripe, and several where we just shoot the breeze.

"This site is for education and support of PWDs not all of the support needs be talking about DM. PWDs are multifaceted people, not Just fixated on DM, as you should know, having it yourself."

RAYT721
RAYT721 2010-11-10 16:49:39 -0600 Report

Jayabee… it's hard to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. :) Once our anonymous friend loses the spotlight from replies, he or she will find new websites to explore and criticize… hopefully!

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 03:14:41 -0600 Report

oops . . . editing errors. It didn't happen.
IATY. can't remember what IATH . . . strange . . . Verrrrrry interesting, but stoopid.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-11-10 06:22:49 -0600 Report

Actually the Indian Nations suffer greatly from diabetes. There are several members here who share those lines and some of the culture as well.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 07:18:12 -0600 Report

Oh Gabby, you certainly know how to make me cry.
Thank you for your answer. I was starting to think I had mispoken.
Guardian stone

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-11-10 17:50:32 -0600 Report

Nah...no worries my friend. We are all multi faceted and need a place to share. It seems many here have read your author and enjoy the topic. That is all we ask.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 20:14:20 -0600 Report

I found a bio of Mr. Hillerman at Wikipida. Type in Tony Hillerman. He shall be missed.
I'm sorry to have caused so much decention with one question.
I have trouble with putting my foot into my mouth hip deep.
Thank you for the support.
You are a dear.
Guardian stone

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-11-10 20:53:18 -0600 Report

I've learned a long time ago that there's a difference between GIVING offense and TAKING it.

You didn't give offense (IMO), GS, you didn't intend to. Annon. took offense. only Annon knows why s/he took offense. Perhaps s/he is unaware why. But PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT YOUR OWN! S/He has to "own" their own problem. Unfortunately some are not self aware so they'll never "get it". IMO you're not at fault here. The only person who had an issue with what you wrote is Annon. And s/he didn't have the courage to post under his/her own name. Please fon't let it bother you!

Some folks only can feel better about themselves when they put others down.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 23:46:27 -0600 Report

Where did you learn to be so smart. My therapy ladies are learning not to not let others steal our self worth. Our self worth cannot be damaged or stolen without our permission.
It is up to us to not allow this little death.
Guardian stone

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-11-10 23:54:48 -0600 Report

I picked things up here and there going through life.

You know what they say "Making good decisions come from experiece, and experience comes —— from making bad decisions" (I made A LOT of bad decisions. LoL!)

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 00:05:52 -0600 Report

You are making up for that in spades now . . .
karma points are adding up fast.
Your next life you will be smart enough to go to the next plane of existance. I'll ask you to allow me to be taught how to twart coyote, and twist his tail into a knot.

RAYT721
RAYT721 2010-11-10 20:38:09 -0600 Report

You have not done or said anything wrong, dear friend. It appears there are people who choose to monitor and regulate what the meaning of "connect" means in the website name and that is fine. Everyone has his or her own reasons for coming here, staying, and/or leaving. I'm here for the friendships and support that I give and receive. I won't lower myself to answer such questions as if I had been banned from other websites. I shall let that be a mystery. You know what the best way to keep a moron in suspense is, don't you??? I won't answer questions that are meant to try to berate me… and neither should you. Keep those questions, comments and discussions coming… especially if they lose the interest of others who feel we should be here for him/her instead of for each other. Guardianstone… I am here for YOU!!!

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 03:21:26 -0600 Report

Ray;
I tried to stay calm and respect the beliefs of the writer. I asked for forgiveness because feelings had been hurt on all sides. I wanted to speak to every one in my Mamma voice and tell every one to take a time out, they just lost their treat for the night.
I am so proud of all of you for what was said, and for not holding a lottery for chances to tear him limb from limb.
I have become my mother.
She has Taught all of us to stand up for our beliefs.
Maybe that is why we joined with others of our family in defending our nation. Ten of us have enlisted to defend who cannot defend them selves. Six have become God's messingers, they build houses, spread God's words and give their time and monies when there is little for them. They treat their children kindness and love, and their children pass the message. This is just the ones I know of in the last four generations. Teachers, doctors, nurses, and more are there too. All these people were touched by he.
She taught us to care about and for others.
After 911 she taught us that we should forgive, and defend others hurtfull ways. I cannot agree with this, but she taught us how to respect others.
I am proud of her, and hope I can tell her this soon.
I have been driven with a frightening compulsion to tell everyone that I am proud of her.
I have become my mother, and I wouldn't want to be anything else.
Now tha I have said this I can wipe my eyes, and blow my nose. I can now tell you, my family that I am proud of you.
Please share this with everyone here.
I have to read something happy. I have cried so much this week I have dehydred my self.
Guardian stone
I need a hug.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-11 03:59:21 -0600 Report

I forgot . . . I wrote a letter about 4AM, and plan to send her it for an early Christmas gift.
I hope she likes her version.

RAYT721
RAYT721 2010-11-10 05:19:11 -0600 Report

In my opinion, the website name of diabetic connect means to connect with diabetics. This pretty much opens the gate to discussion of what's on a person's mind, in their hearts, in their souls, and about one's body. Is it possible that you are in the wrong area? I have found more stricter sites that limit the discussions but certainly not comfortable with them. This is the place that I turn to learn about others and to "connect" with them.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-11-10 07:23:42 -0600 Report

Were you the guy who got banned from the other diabetes site for inappropriate posting?

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 13:05:57 -0600 Report

They don't want the nasties to steal his ID. I have had that happen, my husband and sister & brother in-law have been sued for things we refused to pay for that were not ordered. I had a high schooler with the nerve to steal my orders from a store, because She and I had the same name. She stole me. An Oregon woman has stolen my husband's SSN, and still uses it.
So I can understand.
Thank you

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 13:10:31 -0600 Report

Not a put down, Thank you for think about the question. But I really understand.
I just wish I would check my post before posting.
Guardian stone

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 08:03:21 -0600 Report

I'm sorry. I have never visited any other site.
Have I offended you so badly?
You can always skip the discussion if you don't like it.
I have not delibertly tried to anger you. and have said I'm sorry. I will try not to offend your sensabilities.
Now with that said, I had a question pertaining to someone who has let me see someones pain. The people are not real. I know that, but poor health is. I wondered if I could support his efforts, and let his widow know we were proud of his work.
Not many people say this until after it is too late.
Thank you for listening to my reasons. You may not agree, but I have asked about the rules before and never been centured from this site. I know there are mispelled words, but it is 06:00 and I havent slept yet.
Good night.
Guardian stone

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 07:22:45 -0600 Report

Thank you Ray.
You always seem to be there to defend the family. You are also repremand me when I am wrong. And never in a spiteful way.
Father Goose isn't the name you have earned. Try Father Superior.
Guardian stone

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-11-09 20:13:46 -0600 Report

Not every discussion HAS to be about DM !

There have been SEVERAL jokes discussions, others where we generally gripe, and several where we just shoot the breeze.

This site is for education and support of PWDs not all of the support needs be talking about DM. PWDs are multifaceted people, not Just fixated on DM, as you should know, having it yourself.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-09 21:06:28 -0600 Report

Thank you hon.
(((H)))z

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 07:41:06 -0600 Report

James;
Thank you for your support. I was upset earlier.
I had to step back and take a walk.
I would still like to know who I could ask about some sort of recognition for him.
I never thought about the American Indians problems even after visiting two seperate tribes.
The small areas available for visiting were clean and chearful.
Well that is what I thought. Since Hillerman's books, I have spoken to a few people about it.
I have seen the horror these people in Arizona live with in the back 'woods' (no trees) of the reservation. None of it was because they were lazy. Yes there are some nice places, but that is rare.
This does not help with health care. I watched a report a while back that talked about a resturant that was reintroducing the old recipies and creating new ones of the natural foods that were eaten long ago.
That is why I asked.

I am done with my rant, and I had my rave. It's time to sleep.

Thanks kid I'll be seeing you around.
Especially if We get to Vegas for an anniversary.

Guardian stone

This started as a quick thank you.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-09 19:23:06 -0600 Report

Many of them suffer with this horrable disease. I am sorry to have upset you. Please accept that I did not mean to upset you. I didn't know where to go, or who to ask.
Guardian stone

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-11-09 16:49:28 -0600 Report

Tony Hillerman has passed? I'm sorry to hear that! I like his work. Am currently reading one of his books. Jem & I used to listen to some of his works in his books on tape.

Sorry about your loss of family history.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-09 19:54:42 -0600 Report

He passed a few years ago. I was watching the three stories that PBS put out. I have several of the audio and a few books.
I have tried to look into the health care feasco on the reservation.
I am sorry that I have upset someone with this question, but diabeties is part of their heritage. Part of OUR heritage. Thank you JayaBee for your response. We loose too many of our teachers to disease of many types. Diabetes awareness is needed.
Guardian stone

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 20:19:33 -0600 Report

I found a bio of Mr. Hillerman at Wikipida. Type in Tony Hillerman. He shall be missed.
I'm sorry to have caused so much decention with one question.
I have trouble with putting my foot into my mouth hip deep.
Thank you for the support.
You are a dear.
Guardian stone

This is not an accidental repeat. I am trying to respond to those who want to know.
Thank you

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-11-10 06:24:42 -0600 Report

And what have you found out about the reservations and the rampant spread of diabetes among the Nations? It really seems to have singled them out and I wonder why. Maybe genetics, but I rather imagine there are other links as well.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 08:13:19 -0600 Report

Gabby I have just finished with a reply to James. (jayabee52)
I'll try to get a copy for you, but it's 07:00 and I havn't slept yet.
Be back as soon as I can.

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 08:15:56 -0600 Report

Gabby;
hi hon, I found it faster than I thought. I hope it answers your question. It opened my eyes. I wish I could remember wht news p

Guardianstone
Guardianstone 2010-11-10 08:23:24 -0600 Report

Sorry . . . I wish I could rember what news program talked about the resturant. But one of the reasons they opened was due to the poor health on the reservation.
Thanks.

James;
Thank you for your support. I was upset earlier.
I had to step back and take a walk.
I would still like to know who I could ask about some sort of recognition for him.
I never thought about the American Indians problems even after visiting two seperate tribes.
The small areas available for visiting were clean and chearful.
Well that is what I thought. Since Hillerman's books, I have spoken to a few people about it.
I have seen the horror these people in Arizona live with in the back 'woods' (no trees) of the reservation. None of it was because they were lazy. Yes there are some nice places, but that is rare.
This does not help with health care. I watched a report a while back that talked about a resturant that was reintroducing the old recipies and creating new ones of the natural foods that were eaten long ago.
That is why I asked.

I am done with my rant, and I had my rave. It's time to sleep.

Thanks kid I'll be seeing you around.
Especially if We get to Vegas for an anniversary.

Guardian stone

This started as a quick thank you.

A few more people to talk to then 'to sleep . . . perchance to dream' And please no nightscares Not as bad as nightmares, but bad enough to keep me sleeplite for 3 nights.
G'nite

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