Could Diabetes be a natural defense mechanism?

CaliKo
By CaliKo Latest Reply 2016-08-28 15:57:50 -0500
Started 2010-10-20 17:13:22 -0500

I feel like one of the judges on Dancing with the Stars. I know people may yell at me, but I’m going to say it anyway. Since diabetes interferes with the production of, or effective use of insulin, which allows us to store energy, could diabetes be a defense mechanism? If so, it does more harm than good, but that sometimes happens when the body reacts to something. Maybe the body is telling us that we are not getting the exercise our bodies need. Maybe its a reaction to processed grains or something else we eat. Maybe we’re not using our stored fat, so it’s trying not to store more of it. Maybe its a combination of things, or different things can trigger it. Obviously, we’re not all overweight or couch potatoes, or have a family history of diabetes, and I’m not suggesting it is our fault. I’m just wondering about what really starts our bodies down this path.


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Anonymous
Anonymous 2016-08-28 15:57:50 -0500 Report

I mostly agree with this, no one in my family has it , I was diagnosed with high a1c of 11.2 which I brought down to 5.9 in 3 months by loosing weight, changing my diet and regular exercise. My eating habits have changed in last 8 month and I stop when I am full. Also able to maintain weight. The other issue I faced after first 4 months of expertise is low t which I am trying to boost by HIIT. Any idea why I lost lot of t , I am 41

idamtnboy
idamtnboy 2010-10-30 21:28:56 -0500 Report

My opinion. I wouldn't call it a defense mechanism. I would call it a reactive mechanism. I think it's partly a reaction to lack of exercise. I wonder how much the excessive consumption of heavily processed foods may cause it. It's unbelievable how many chemicals we ingest every day in food. In spite of the food industry studies that show it's all safe, I wonder if we aren't seeing long term, as in decades, effects of unnatural chemicals in our bodies. Mostly, I think whatever is the cause of obesity is the cause of diabetes. I believe the root cause is common to both conditions, not obesity causing diabetes.

Genetics is a big part of it too. My family has a history of diabetes, including going back to those who worked hard on farms before the preponderance of processed foods. And they were all overweight too.

CaliKo
CaliKo 2010-10-31 13:16:04 -0500 Report

I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of the chemicals either in our foods or in our environment play a role in some of the diseases on the rise. Thanks for your comment.

omahapack
omahapack 2010-10-25 08:45:11 -0500 Report

Sometimes I wonder about things that I will never find the answers to. I place those things in God's hands and work on what is in front of me. I have diabetes as does one of my sisters. Hers is far worse than mine. She did not take the steps needed to control it. I am blessed to have diabetes because I must be diligent about the knowledge of how it affects me and what I can do to remain healthy. My sister has ignored this and has had poor health as a result. I am healthier than I am supposed to be. I watch my carbs. Some do not do well for me and others I have no problem with. I avoid the problem carbs and use the others more often. It works for me.

LTennion
LTennion 2010-10-24 09:41:34 -0500 Report

I believe that there are a multitude of circumstances within our bodies that are factored into the equation in respect to what triggers or initiates the "Diabetic" disorder. And it's different for everyone. As everyone reacts differenty as well, if I might add. I definitely believe that Diabetes has become epidemic because it is a disease or disorder of our modern lifestyle. I'm not sure that I totally agree with the genetic therory, though. Perhaps we are predisposed, but I think it's more because of our environment and upbringing. Were we raised in an atmophere of physically active parents and families? What types of foods did our Mom's and Grandma's cook? Did we have a habit of eating together or regularly? Skipping meals or eating at approprite times of the day? I think these lifestyles and upbrings perpetuates though our generations. With all the advances in our technology, comes a degree of negatives as well. No doubt it has influenced a generation of "laziness". I also firmly think that because of our genetically modified foods and all of the perservatives that have enidated our food supply, our bodies aren't sure how it's supposed to process all of these foreign substances. So, our bodies eventually store excess toxins as fat and when that becomes full and our bodies get exhausted tying to fulfill it's new obligations, our metobolic systems get confused and fails to operate correctly. I beleive that in many cases, perhaps our bodies are reacting out of a defense mechanism. If someone changes thier bad habits for good habits and loses a sufficient amount of weight (if necessary) becoming more active, then they could possibly eleviate the condition while they are in this state. It makes sense that the condition can arise again should the same circumstanses return. After all, a womem's body has a much better idea of what to do when facing a 2nd pregnancy, right? Seems to make sense that it would revert to previous operations. Having said all of this, I admit this is my opinion, therory, or observation. Whatever you want to call it, but make no mistake, I am no expert, just another curious member

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-23 10:12:09 -0500 Report

I have found a strong relationship between my emotional wellbeing at any moment and what my meter is going to say. I find that my emotions play a big role in my overall maintenance of this condition. On another level, the meaning for "diabetes" is a lack of sweetness in life and for me, that refers to my level of happiness and the quality of the relationships in my life.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-10-23 18:39:58 -0500 Report

I went to a natural healing class last week and she said something very similar about the sweet or love in our lives. How interesting.

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-23 22:05:04 -0500 Report

Yes, it is the emotional interpretation of diabetes. So many allopathic practitioners (doctors, nurses…) forget about the emotional aspect of our lives and how that can manifest physically.
Natural healing is what I prefer.
I am a Reiki Master / Teacher and my clients who are dealing with this condition are very happy they come to see me. With the use of Reiki, I keep their numbers in the healthy range. In one 15 minute session their numbers normalize even if they have been running high for years.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-10-24 10:47:34 -0500 Report

I have just started looking into Reiki. A friend of mine has used it, and also practices it. The same place I went to for the crystal healing class also offers Reiki classes. I am amazed at how it works, even with a novice. There is so much about our bodies that we have forgotten due to modern medicine. It is a shame really.

The woman who did the class evaluated each of is by testing where our weaknesses were through our chakra's and she said my heart chakra was drawing in continued tragedy. A peridot crystal really helped, but I do want to find access to these things in relation to my diabetes. Can you make any recommendations?

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-24 16:29:50 -0500 Report

Reiki, of course is fantastic for managing diabetes. The other activity I would recommend is meditation. It is fantastic for overall health. I have actually lowered my BS using this approach. The body follows the mind, so, I directed my body to lower my numbers. I focussed on the numbers for a healthy range so that my body had a target — a direction and it worked! I couldn't believe it the first time. It just goes to show that we have more influence over our bodies than we are led to believe. I meditate daily.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-10-25 08:27:02 -0500 Report

You are what you think. There is so much truth to that. I have been thinking that I am in a bad place, so I am in a bad place with my control. I have just started trying to redirect those thoughts, so this is great advice. Thank you so much.

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-24 11:54:03 -0500 Report

Dealing with your heart chakra, I would also pick up a rose quartz stone … very good for heart issues of any kind. With your stones, I would put them into some water with a little salt. This will take off any energy that belongs to someone else. When you are finished … 20 min. in water, dry off, and do not let anyone else touch them. Always have them on your person, even if it is in a pocket. What specifically would you like to have access to? Services, crystal healing ..Reiki? If you do decide to contact a Reiki practitioner (the higher the level the better) anything more than $30.00 for a session is excessive. That store that teaches Reiki should have suggestions regarding someone who is a practitioner.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-10-25 08:21:03 -0500 Report

$30 sounds great and very in reach. There is a Reiki practitioner in our town that I have been wanting to visit. She also practices Chinese medicine such as acupuncture. Yes, I am very excited about learning more about it. The classes are an hour and beginners are welcome...good for me. I am less than a beginner, but eager to try.

Do you carry all your crystals with you? I hand made a bag for mine, but I only have a few in there. I have been using it for sleep. My other ones are in cozy little places and I take them out to use for other things.

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-24 11:56:49 -0500 Report

Also, if you tend to take on other people's problems and try to solve them yourself, you may be taking in or drawing tragedy to you. If this doesn't sound like you, is there some way to ask her what she meant?

I do know that the first thing to stop doing is taking on other people's issues (if you do that) and drawing a line for yourself: "yours" —- "mine".

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-25 10:59:17 -0500 Report

Your breathing will help to relax your mind. If you are new at this, it will take time to make those changes. Focus on relaxing. I would repeat "deep relaxation" to yourself when you begin to get distracted mentally. If you breathe in through your nose and exhale out your mouth, that is the best. Breathe slowly and deeply. This is a slow activity.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-10-25 18:52:16 -0500 Report

Yes and it is relaxing. I look at it as I breathe in the good and exhale the bad. I think of positive thoughts or words as I breathe in and then exhale all the things I want out of my life. It has given me great clarity on some things. How long do you do it? I find that I do get distracted after a short time, maybe just a few minutes.

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-25 22:33:46 -0500 Report

I do it for about 40 minutes. Don't worry, I get distracted too. I have a cat who insists on lying on my lap when I am meditating. This activity can take a long time to become successful because it requires that you "quiet" your mind of racing thoughts… not an easy thing to do. :D Easily distracted at the beginning is normal and to be expected.

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-24 10:29:26 -0500 Report

Reiki is Japanese and it is a natural method of healing. Having a Reiki session is similar to a massage without the painful muscle manipulation, and you stay fully clothed. You lie on a table (same as massage) and Reiki is VERY gentle. Many of my clients fall asleep on the table because it is so relaxing. Reiki uses your own natural energy (the energy that helps you get up in the morning, keeps your heart beating and so on). Reiki's approach is to stimulate your organs: liver, pancreas, all of your major organs and send energy to them and they begin to function better. You feel refreshed and revitalized. To those individuals who are skeptical for religious reasons, "I always work in the light".

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-25 22:30:10 -0500 Report

"Working in the light" refers to do doing good work, helpful assistance rather than doing something that causes harm. The intention of that statement is that I do not intend on doing any harm to you through the work that I do.

RockyMtnGal
RockyMtnGal 2010-10-20 23:05:37 -0500 Report

It's interesting you bring this up because I recently found this article that Mays posted that explains how an insulin intolerance during pregnancy occurs naturally in the the last half of pregnancy. (http://www.diabeticconnect.com/news-articles/...) In a nutshell, (the article does a very good job of explaining), the fetus needs increasing nutrients during this time and the intolerance occurs to protect the fetus from its mothers possible low blood sugar. Unfortunately it can become too strong, resulting in gestational diabetes.
So in these cases it is definitely a defense mechanism. How that can relate to T2??? But I agree…it's something to think about.

CaliKo
CaliKo 2010-10-21 09:01:15 -0500 Report

Thanks, that's an interesting article, I hadn't seen it. I wonder, in T2, if the body may be resisting storing fat. Or trying to increase activity levels if there is more glucose in the blood stream. I don't know. I'm curious about studies.

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-10-20 17:51:40 -0500 Report

What about babies that get this?

CaliKo
CaliKo 2010-10-21 08:55:24 -0500 Report

I've never read much about babies that develop diabetes. Is it always T1? I would think if so it was simply inherited, but I'm not a medical person, I'm just wondering out loud. Interesting point, thanks.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-10-21 09:27:13 -0500 Report

All diabetes is inherited in some way, genetics are the underlying cause and some kind of trigger flips the switch. The path is started at conception when you get your genetic makeup. Gestational diabetes is a little weird because it is usually transient but it does leave the person at a higher risk for developing type 2. I don't think diabetes in any form (maybe gestational) is a defense mechanism because after making dramatic changes it is still there. Defense mechanisms would turn off once the danger is no longer there, plus the variance between people would not be as wide as it is and age would likely not make much of a difference.

CaliKo
CaliKo 2010-10-21 10:37:48 -0500 Report

I was way across the line when I was diagnosed with T2, but if its caught in the pre-diabetic stages, or just insulin-resistance, isn't it reversible? I have excellent control, and even heard my doctor say "you made it go away" but that's not really accurate in my case. I'd still flunk a glucose tolerance test, and if I don't follow my meal plan and exercise regimen, my numbers go bad very quickly. But I do wonder about the mechanism turning off. Would it really? I think its difficult to change what the body is doing once it starts something. I also have MS, which is described as "an inappropriate immune response" to some vague unidentified event, and it doesn't really go away even when there are no symptoms. I don't know, I'm just rambling.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-10-20 17:23:30 -0500 Report

This is such a good topic because there is something that does trigger it. I am sure the Manchurian code is different for each of us and that is what makes this disease so hard to get a handle on as far as the research. One of the things that I feel is a huge trigger is all he GMO foods that we are eating now. Our bodies were made to metabolize natural foods, and since GMO's have come on the scene, things have gone nuts. I am not saying it is the only thing, but I do think that it is a contributing factor in it all. If you ever have the opportunity to watch the movie Food Inc, it will give you food for thought.

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