Constant high Blood Sugar

runthe
By runthe Latest Reply 2010-10-27 07:46:52 -0500
Started 2010-10-19 16:18:35 -0500

HI all, hope all is well with everyone. My blood sugar is still high ranging from 290 to about 390+ for about 3 months now. I have been walking, eating foods that i am suppose to and still my blood sugar is still high. Dr visit is on the 1st of november. today I took my insulin waited a half hr and took my bs 295.
afterwards i ate some low fat yorgat and a half of apple. BS 330. I have not eaten anything else but water. I am fatiique an am having lots of pain. What am i doing wrong. Can someone please help. I can't keep going on like this. I am starting to have pain in my lower back which could probably be my kidneys.
thanks for letting me share my problems with you.
love you all
runthe


34 replies

klfrcmom
klfrcmom 2010-10-27 07:46:52 -0500 Report

I had similar issues with consistently high glucose… diet, meds and exercise only worked for a little while, plateaued, and then right back up again. It turns out I am Type 1 and not Type2… it changes how you address everything.

runthe
runthe 2010-10-25 16:36:20 -0500 Report

Hi all, I would like to thank each and every one of you for the good advice. I have tried some of the tips that I received from not eating fruit, chips, cookies and etc.
I have tried to eat small amts of foods. I have been walking a lot. weight traning is not an option for me because of RA, and fibro acting up. I go to the doctor on monday and I will let everyone know what is going on.
love to all
runthe

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-10-25 16:46:31 -0500 Report

please do. I suspect you wish that you could bring some of us with you.

I haven't had RA, or fibro myself, but Jem had it. I remember how painful it was for her, and she had a lot of tolerance for pain. Last time she was in ER for the RA they asked her to give them a number of pain from 1 to 10. She told them "20".

Blerssings!
James

runthe
runthe 2010-10-25 17:09:42 -0500 Report

I know thats right, I wish some of you could go with me. I know that the last time I went to the ER for my RA I told them 50 LOL. Thank for your concern.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-10-25 18:12:03 -0500 Report

Well I called Jem my "Brave Little Toaster" (from the animated children's movie ) She had that quality that reminded me of the Title character. She was determined, but positive.

She was having some RA pain in her feet/ankles but she bucked up and was determined to walk down the Mobile home steps. It was I'm sure it was quite uncomfortable for her. but she walked down the steps and then walked back up when we returned.

runthe
runthe 2010-10-25 18:52:20 -0500 Report

That is great. It sounds like we are in the same boat. I have pain in my back, shoulders, and hands that hurt really bad. I tried to appear brave even when I am in pain.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-10-25 22:20:41 -0500 Report

unfortunately Jem is no longer with us. she passed from this life 7/23. I believe that she is with her parents, and is pain free, and no longer blind. I miss her tremendously.

runthe
runthe 2010-10-26 10:53:32 -0500 Report

I am so sorry to hear that… But like you said i believe that she is in a better place pain free and has a vision. My mom passed away 9 years ago from complication of diabetes, and I miss her so much. The pain of losing a love one is never easy.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-10-26 14:07:45 -0500 Report

Thank you, Rhonda.

I am sorry for your loss too.

My mother is still with us so I have yet to face that loss.

A2Jturk
A2Jturk 2010-10-25 15:00:17 -0500 Report

When you constantly look at a pot of water on the stove, it takes longer to boil. Sometimes you need to go about something else for a little bit and then you water appears to boil faster and your blood sugar goes down a lot quicker.

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-22 16:30:13 -0500 Report

Try eliminating fruit entirely for a short time (2 weeks). I know that sounds dramatic but try it. I love fruit but I am very careful as to what fruit I eat because of all the pesticides used. If you are going to eat fruit, I would wash it very well first. I eliminated fruit to something I eat occasionally, while I was trying to lower my numbers, I did not eat fruit at all and the numbers dropped dramatically.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-10-20 08:40:56 -0500 Report

Insulin is not a magic bullet, it needs to match you, your lifestyle and your diet. It doesn't sound like your insulin dose is correct for you. It sounds like you are taking some sort of insulin that is primarily regular insulin, maybe Humulin R, Novolin R or possibly one of the 70/30 mixes. It may be that a change in type is needed to a rapid acting one like humalog, novolog or apidra plus maybe even lantus (if you don't already take it) so you can inject based on what you eat very easily.

Aside from that, you don't seem to be balancing what you eat. low fat yogurt and half an apple might sound good but it's around 90% carb with a high proportion of that carb coming from sugar. Try to balance your meals with protein and fat, start with about 7g of protein and 4g of fat for every 15g of carbohydrate you eat. You may want to adjust that so you eat the same amount of protein and fat but for every 10g of carb rather than 15g. Above all, you need to eat something every 3 hours or so or your body will start releasing glucose.

Kirla
Kirla 2010-10-19 18:54:52 -0500 Report

Runthe

Feb 2009 I was diagnosed with a fasting blood sugar of 366 and A1C of 14.1. Started to eat a salad every day at supper. Also started to eat lots of low carb vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage (homemade coleslaw made with cabbage, carrots, mayonnaise and splenda) cucumbers, spinach, pickles and sauerkraut. Started to drink 8+ glasses of water every day.

I then bought a meter and started to test my blood sugar before and after each meal. At first I was testing 2 hours after each meal and when my numbers dropped a lot I started testing 1 hour after meals. I stopped eating food that spiked my blood sugar more than 40-50 points 1-2 hours after eating.

By testing I found that foods like bread and most foods made of grains along with pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, oatmeal, cereals, chips, crackers, cakes, cookies, candy, soda, fruits, fruit juices and most foods that contain more than 5-6 net carbs per serving as found on the package label all spiked my blood sugar. Some people can cut back on these foods and some people like me have to stop eating them.

My numbers didn’t drop over night but for the next several weeks they slowly dropped to normal numbers. After about 6-8 weeks my numbers were almost normal numbers. After 7 weeks I quit all meds and my numbers continued to get better and better.

I write how I controlled my blood sugar on my blog. All A1C’s have been below 6.0 since I got the 14.1. If interested click the link and look around.

http://kirla.wordpress.com/

I found by reducing and eliminating high carb starchy foods helped me a lot. By adding small amounts of chicken, beef, pork or a hard boiled egg to my meals helped reduce sugar spikes also.

Good luck
Kevin

famoweber
famoweber 2010-10-23 22:51:45 -0500 Report

I would really like to visit with you, your situation seems to be like mine and I need help in understanding my eating habits better. I will read your post thanks for sharing and inspiring me that maybe if became better acquainted with a friendly diet I can also stop using meds. My latest A1C has dropped down to 12.5.

Priscilla71
Priscilla71 2010-10-25 10:58:33 -0500 Report

Gosh, i would love to sit down and talk to both of you… and see if we cant figure this thing out together!! i was on the carb diet and excersing and my cholesterol went sky high— now doc wants me to take meds —-meds…meds…
sugars in 300's———-i go to the gym 3 to 4 times a week…just dont feel like i am getting anywhere…
hope to hear from u guys soon…

Kirla
Kirla 2010-10-25 18:54:28 -0500 Report

I follow a low carb diet. For a while I was using about 1 quart of heavy cream per week. When I tested my cholesterol it went up more than what I liked. So I quit using the cream. It had a lot of saturated fat. I read a book Eaters Choice about 20 years ago. Said saturated fat will spike your cholesterol. As long as I keep a watch on the saturated fat I don’t have a problem. I try and keep it below 10% of my total diet. The last time I evaluated my diet on sparkpeople I found that my fats, carbs, proteins percentages were 60% fats, 20% carbs and 20% protein. My Saturated fats were 12% of total diet. Cholesterol was about 180. Most of the fats were from seeds, nuts and vegetables fats.

runthe
runthe 2010-10-25 19:02:02 -0500 Report

Hi kirla, my cholestrol is in the normal range. I tried eating foods low in cholesterol. My problems is carbs. I try eating foods low in carbs but BS is still high.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-10-25 22:30:56 -0500 Report

How that I know that you have an RA flare, I most certainly understand your high BG#s.

That kind of stress really did a number on Jem when she had a RA or Lupis flare. We chased the high BG#s with 3 kinds of insulin on sliding scales but the BG#s were persistent. They'd come down in a couple weeks if the flare resolved itself, If the Rhumy interviened with cortisone of prednisone, it would be 3-4 mos of chasing the numbers before they came down.

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2010-10-21 18:49:40 -0500 Report

Double ditto! I can't agree with you more about controlling/eliminating carbs to achieve tighter control. I've been a type 1 for 34 years but only started really watching my carbs about 5 or 6 years ago. It's not easy but the results make the effort worth it. Congrats on the excellent A1c results!

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2010-10-19 18:41:03 -0500 Report

What exactly are your instructions for using the insulin? Are you using a fast acting insulin like Humalog or Novolog? Or is it a long-acting insulin like Lantus? Do you have a set amount you're supposed to take? or do you have a sliding scale that allows you to take more if your blood sugar is higher?

If you're not on a sliding scale, you should call your doctor and ask him to give you some direction on switching to a sliding scale. There is absolutely no reason that someone on insulin shouldn't be able to bring down blood sugars fairly easily. (Definitely harder if you're using a long-acting insulin, but still entirely possible.)

Yogurt and half an apple are pretty healthy choices but they definitely have carbs (especially if the yogurt isn't artificially sweetened). And eating any carbs when your blood sugar is that high is going to send you higher and make you feel worse.

In any case, definitely time to talk to your doctor about using insulin (and possibly other meds) more effectively. 290 to 390 is unacceptable. You need to make sure you let your doc know that you want aggressive action to bring this down.

runthe
runthe 2010-10-21 11:17:13 -0500 Report

Hi John, I am taking Novlin 70/30, 40 units 2 times a day at 8:30 am and at 6:30 pm

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2010-10-21 12:39:03 -0500 Report

OK, so the 70/30 mix gives you just 30% of a fast acting insulin and 70% of a longer acting insulin. This insulin doesn't even start working to lower your blood sugar for 30 minutes. The greatest effect that it will have will come 4 hours or so after you take it. (Some sources say the greatest effect will be anywhere from 2 to 12 hours after taking it.)

Are you testing at all in the middle of the day? do you test before you take your evening dose?

If you cut your carb intake way back for a day or two, you will hopefully be able to get your blood sugars down. Stick to green vegetables and protein like chicken, turkey, beef, fish, or pork. You can try eggs for breakfast. Cut out breads, potatoes, rice, sweets, and soda.

Then once you get your blood sugars down, you can begin experimenting to see what carbs you can eat and still stay in good control. Let your meter be your guide.

But most of all, get in touch with your doctor. Let him know what's going on.

runthe
runthe 2010-10-21 18:22:49 -0500 Report

Thanks John, I test before each meal i will take your advice about eating just the foods that you mention. my appt is on the 1st of november. I will let everyone know what is going on then. thanks

RAYT721
RAYT721 2010-10-19 18:36:52 -0500 Report

Do you think that you may not be eating enough? I have found that breakfast is perhaps the most important meal of the day for me and if you are fasting for much longer than when you wake up, it's possible that your body is trying to tell you something. I can't speak for others but I try to eat every 3-4 hours starting with my morning, snacking often, and having my lunch and dinner and another snack at night. I'm not talking about huge meals here but keeping food in my system for energy and blood sugar. It is possible the issues you are having are combined with stress and pain. Have you considered asking if you can get to the doctor before the appointment on the 1st??? There are many thing that the pain in the lower back could be from and the best diagnosis will be from doctor tests. Keep us posted!!! (by the way I have missed hearing from you).

famoweber
famoweber 2010-10-23 22:55:46 -0500 Report

What kind of snacks are you enjoying? After reading this post I am wondering if this is some of my problems also. Not eating consistantly and or the stress and pain of every work day issues.

mo91108
mo91108 2010-10-19 18:36:37 -0500 Report

do you check your ketone levels when you're blood sugars go high? especially constantly? Well I hope this problem gets solved for you best of luck
- Monica

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-10-19 18:22:42 -0500 Report

Rhonda, sorry to hear of your distress.

I notice from your profile you are taking Metformin & glipizide. I am wondering, if this combination isn't doing it for you, it might be time to consider some other Medication. You might need to go on byetta or insulin.

You definitely need to tell Dr about your fears about your kidneys. Perhaps he could order a panel of tests for kidneys to tell what, if anything, is going on with them. I was on Met when my kidneys got an infection and stopped working for me, but I had no pain that I recall. (Was on dialysis for 9 or 10 months in 2006-2007- kidneys started working again well enough that I was able to quit dialysis, but they are compromised)

Jeannie may be right your pain may well be a major contributing factor.

It may also be a side effect of a med you may be taking. I know my bride "Jem" took some meds which raised her BG#s signifigantly. That may be another question to ask Dr.

May God richly bless you and yours

James

famoweber
famoweber 2010-10-23 23:04:13 -0500 Report

James talk to me. I've decided tonight that I needed to reach out to others and swallow my pride and find out how I can overcome my disease. Type II, taking many drugs, my A1C I posted at an earlier comment. How were you able to get your mind, spirit, emotion on a track of beating this? I've seen pictures, friends die, lectures from friends and relatives, but nothing seems to give me the kick in the hiney to motivate myself to committ to a change in my lifestyle of diet coke, no breakfast, small lunch, big dinner, and being stressed, not sleeping. thank you for letting me see how encouraging you werre to 'runthe' I can feel the concern everyone has for him and I sure hope he is will kick this disease like so many others have.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-10-24 00:35:27 -0500 Report

I am answering your email, but it's taking some time to write it. — Just wanted you to know so you didn't think I was ignoring you.

runthe
runthe 2010-10-21 11:19:06 -0500 Report

Hi James the doctor took me off of the metformin & glipizide. I was having some problems with the metformin. I don't know why they took me off of the glipizide.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-10-19 21:00:55 -0500 Report

oops! I completely missed that you ARE taking insulin. I went by what you wrote on your profile, which now seems outdated in light of what you wrote above. MY BAD! John C nailed it, IMO!

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