Doctor not open-minded about Type 2 alternative therapy.

By redglitter Latest Reply 2010-08-09 15:07:14 -0500
Started 2010-08-08 23:48:15 -0500

On Friday I saw my regular MD. He's a nice man, good humored and seems caring. But I'm growing impatient with him. Especially now. I had asked him about vanadium, a mineral supposedly proven to help lower glucose naturally. He shook his head, rolled his eyes and said it wouldn't work. Then he said he didn't keep up with that stuff. So which is it I thought? It's snake oil or he isn't with the program? Every time I see him (months go by between appts) he ups my insulin by a couple units, tells me to lose weght and bugs me about getting a Pap smear. I have told him when I'm ready to get the Pap, I will do so but his concern about the issue seems out of order. I have other issues I bring up to him, such as fatty nodules in my arms that he says are lipomas caused by my weight, but he's never biopsied them. I have bad circulation in my legs and feet which he attributes to my weight, even though I am a (corrected) clubfoot baby and I have told him my surgeon says my leg vessels are twisted up. I am becoming increasingly confused. What is the right thing to do? He's treated me for a year now. I am trying to find something to help me and when I bring my question to him, he knows nothing about vanadium but he knows it won't work. Am I going to lose my eyes or limbs as months go by with him adding two units here and there?

I'm on Lantus- 40 units twice a day.
I also tale Glyburide, Metformin and eight other drugs for blood pressure, cholesterol, Lisinopril for kidney protection, Pristiq and Abilify for bipolar. About ten meds plus insulin all together. He won't take me off any even though I asked for it because he says I could have a stroke.

He doesn't seem concerned about my legs swelling up like fenceposts or fat bumps in my arms but he can't wait to give me a Pap! I should mention out my way, good doctors are a rarity.Our only endocrinologist nearly killed my friend so he's not a option. Any thoughts? Thank you.

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vgarrison 2010-08-09 15:07:14 -0500 Report

Ok hard dose of reality this time. When your're told that you have cancer under your arms or you have to have your legs amputated…are you going to look at the oncologist or the surgeon and say but my primamy doctor was nice.

Unfortunelty nice isn't going to cut it, especially for us. Diabetes is one of the few diseases that is mostly up to the patient to control, we cannot do this if we do not have a great team behind us, beside us, and sometimes in front of us.

Once I told me doctor, if you don't answer my questions, or accept some of my input on alternative theories, then I'm switching doctors. You know what, all of a sudden I saw a different man!!! He answered everyting I had and we discussed new methods of treatment. Some doctors are worried about losing patients, that maybe this might work for you. If not, honey find a new doctor that will take time to answer any and all questions you might have.

YOU are in charge of your body, you know it better than anyone else, and if something doesn't seem right, it probably isn't.

Gooooood LUCK!!!!

Blessed Be

Kirla 2010-08-09 10:14:15 -0500 Report

I found that drinking lots of water and eating lots of low carb vegetables and testing my blood sugar before and after eating and stopped eating foods that spiked my blood sugar was the alternative therapy that worked great for me.

My blood sugar went from the 300+ range to almost normal numbers in about 4-7 weeks. I take some vitamins and fish oil and drink a few different kinds of tea but I don’t believe in taking supplements.

I prefer to get my nutrition from the foods I eat not supplements. I don’t see any down side of eating broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, cabbage, pickles, cucumbers, pumpkin, sauerkraut, salads, sunflower seeds, peanuts, walnuts, almonds, low carb protein shakes, fish, chicken, beef once a week, pork once or twice a month, ground turkey, soy flour, TVP, eggs, turkey bacon and low carb foods. I just pay close attention to the serving size or I will start to gain weight. Have to watch the calories.

I don’t like my doctor that much but he is needed for blood work and other tests. I’m going to try a DO pretty soon. I read an article about DO’s and liked what I read. My doctor doesn’t talk much or say much or ask any questions and I like it that way. This way I do what I want and my doctor never says I can’t. I look up most info on the Internet and find other sources for the information I need. Most of the time my doctor says drink red wine and take fish oil. I figure its good enough advice for me.

Good luck

Diane987 2010-08-09 09:06:20 -0500 Report

I forgot to add that there is also no substitute for have a good nutritious diet and getting enough exercise. These things without can help you tremendously without adding any supplements. Make sure you are doing the right thing on your part. If you are confused about a good diet plan and exercise for diabetics, let us know, we will all be happy to help you.

Diane987 2010-08-09 08:58:11 -0500 Report

You are in a tough situation. Even if good doctors are rare in your area there has to be one better than the pill pushing, creepy pap chasing, other symptom ignoring one that you have now. The reality about the education doctors get in the US is that even though they spend years in school to become a doctor, they may have had one class on nutrition. The only thing they know about alternative therapies is that there is no conclusive evidence and these substances are regulated well enough to trust the reliability of them. Doctors know medications because that is what they are taught and that is what the drug reps endorse.

I believe in alternative therapies but I also believe in being safe. The first web page I went to on vanadium raised some concerns about the potential negative side effects of this supplement. The potential bad in vanadium in my mind outweighs the potential good. I take nutritional supplements to help with my diabetes and my osteoarthritis. The stuff I take has been independently clinically tested and proven to be effective. The company holds 6 food patents on the formulas because they are all unique blends of many natural substances. Most importantly, they are working for me and I feel great taking them.

My bone on bone arthritis in my knee is no longer painful. It feels like the cartilage is growing back just my friend said it did for her. My diabetes is getting better and I have been able to eliminate one of my diabetes medications because of my nutritional supplements. You can read more about my progress here:

MAYS 2010-08-09 08:46:01 -0500 Report

Think very carefully on this (do your research), there are so many differences of opinion on alternate therapy (vanadium) for diabetes:

Maybe your doctor is sticking to what methods that he knows will and have worked, rather than most alternate therapy procedures which have many pros and cons based mainly on personal testimonials, not actual facts.

Weigh all of your options, and if you decide to go with another method outside of your doctor, establish a time frame for participation in\of such, and document your findings, at the end of the time period evaluate your findings and facts, and then take it from there.


bettymachete 2010-08-09 08:00:31 -0500 Report

You know how in the morning, you wake up to an alarm clock, hit the snooze button 3 times , go to the bathroom, go to the kitchen, make some coffee, go to the shower, get dressed, go pour cup of coffee, go to work and come home and do it all again tomorrow. This is what I have found some doctors approach to medicine, diabetes, in particular. It has become routine to many and they begin to treat everyone the same, often forgetting that diabetes isn't routine at all, that it affects us uniquely.

It is frustrating, especially because you are of the opinion that he is a nice man. Leaving a doctors office confused is an awful feeling. I know, this recently happened to me as well. What I can suggest is writing down every question and do what was suggested to me, don't leave that office till every one of them is answered and you understand it. You know yourself better than anyone. This is personal to you and frankly if your doctor can't take the time to listen to your concerns and answer your questions then "nice" simply wont cut it and it is time to get the opinions of others.