trouble with diet

krafte
By krafte Latest Reply 2010-08-08 14:58:19 -0500
Started 2010-08-05 16:05:44 -0500

I am a type 2 diabetic but also am over weight and have atrial fib, I have been told to keep my sugar down in my diet, stay away if possible from greens, and trying to watch a diabetic diet. help.. that leaves me so confused and wondering what I can eat. I am frustrated and have no one who seems to understand. My husband would love to help but he is confused also. If there is someone that can help please email me at mmagnier@atlantaent.com small thanks


15 replies

monkeymama
monkeymama 2010-08-06 18:58:45 -0500 Report

I am very surprised with the whole green thing. My father-in-laws had issues (till he had a pace make placed) with atrial fib and he is still on blood thinners. He has NEVER been told to stay away from the green veggies. In fact, they push him to eat plenty of fruits and veggies in varieties. I would really be questioning why on this.

bettymachete
bettymachete 2010-08-07 23:02:24 -0500 Report

It has to do with whatever medication she is on and the vit K you get from greens. There is a confusion between doctors, some say reduce or eliminate leafy greens and others say keep eating them. The problem with not getting them is you risk cardiovascular disease. There is confliction in the professional opinions which causes great confusion on the patients part. Personally, I believe you will benefit from a cardioprotective diet, but I am no doctor and don't know what medication you are on. I would certainly seek out a second and third opinion on this matter.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-08-06 09:36:29 -0500 Report

Are you to stay away from greens because of the blood thinning issues? That is the only reason I could see for that. You might just want to double check on that to make sure.
If that is the case, there are still a lot of great veggies out there to choose from. A secret one is eggplant. That is so versatile and yummy in many things. Cauliflower is my magic veggie. I use it in place of rice, potatoes and it is great just on it's own. I can even dehydrate it to be a nice seasoned snack.

Check out our recipe section and you should be able to find some meal selections you would like to try. Most of them list the nutritional values so you can make good choices for yourself.

RAYT721
RAYT721 2010-08-05 18:04:17 -0500 Report

I don't have a clue why they would tell you to steer clear of greens. There are so many health benefits. Unless you cook greens loaded in bacon fat, greens should be on the "to do" list for your diet. I would ask the question "why?" to anything told to me that I didn't understand and that would be one of those times that the question would be valid. I would like to know the answer.

The diabetic diet (which there really is no such thing) simply means to follow portion control and stay away from high carbs/sugar/starchy foods but that doesn't mean to give up what you love, it simply means to cut back and to let that creative nature of yours swap good things (brown rice) for bad (white rice), lean meats for fatty ones, sugar free for sugared, etc. It's not an overnight thing and I always encourage people to take baby steps which is how I have done my weight loss (23 pounds) and my glucose control but also my attitude.

Because you're on a diet doesn't mean to starve yourself. Let your monitor be your guide as you proceed on the journey to better health. Make sure to eat breakfast and consider eating a decent amount of calories spaced throughout the day. I eat every couple hours whether it's a low fat yogurt, low fat cheese stick, handful of nuts or a sensible meal. Try to drink as much water as you can (tap the tap… it's safer than most bottled waters). Exercise as much as you can (you don't have to join a gym… gardening, vacuuming, stretching, walking… is all exercise).

Check out the My Plate D (under tools) at www.livestrong.com. My Plate is an online food diary that will help with your needs for calories, fats, carbs, protein, etc. It's free and an awesome resource, especially as you learn how to plan meals and snacks and beverages.

Don't overdose on sugar substitutes unless you like living in the bathroom. Sometimes a common sense diet is about common sense. Try some new things… low cal protein drinks, green tea, diet pop, straight H2O, and iced tea and whatever. You will learn what your mind, body and soul wants and needs.

Confused? I was the king of confusion when I was diagnosed and the more people you ask for advice, the more conflicting answers you'll get. You put on weight one pound at a time and that's the only way it's going to come off. If there were a magic pill to melt fat while you sleep, you're gonna get your sheets all full of melted fat … okay, so I am kidding. But melted fat will clog up your drain pipes.

You're in the right place for support and encouragement. I've learned so much from my friends on here in a very short amount of time. Need a friend? A click on my face will bring you to a friend invite. I may not have all of the answers but I will make you smile.

What I've learned in five months and others have learned in a lifetime can't be answered in any one discussion post but if you are determined to get happier and healthier, let's talk!!!

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Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2010-08-05 20:00:02 -0500 Report

Green vegies have a blood thinning property. If you are on blood thinners they cause complications because it can vary how thin your blood is. I don't know if this is a consideration in atrial fib or if they have another effect.

RAYT721
RAYT721 2010-08-05 20:06:11 -0500 Report

That is definitely an awesome topic for research because I had not heard of such a thing. The thing is that we are all learning new things daily which is why I think this website is so often. I love to learn new tricks, even if I am an old dog. Thanks for sharing!!!

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2010-08-05 20:42:10 -0500 Report

When I'm not on vicoden I might make better sense. But here goes…
The Food, Drug and Herbal Interactions pamphlet they gave me today when I escaped from the hosp mentions that Antiicoaguants, warfarin (coumadin) can be affected by foods high in Vitamin A, E and C. They may alter prothrombin time. Also to avoid fried or boiled onions, soybean oil and cranberry products. Limit caffeine and foods high in Vitamin K. Foods high in vitamin K include Asparagus, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Green Lettuce, Garbanzo Beans, Green Beans, Green Peas, Green Tea, Liver, Spinach, Onions, Soybean Oil, and Vegetable Oil.
When I had my vein ablation surgeries I had to stop taking my multi vitamin and PreserVision a week before for the 2nd surgery. The vascular surgeon didn't have me stop them for the 1st one. He didn't tell me if there had been a problem or not.
Don't know if prothrombian time (clotting time) affects atrial fib or not.

LennyDenny
LennyDenny 2010-08-06 08:01:32 -0500 Report

Hi - I have CAD and am on blood thinners and have never been told to cut back or stay away from greens. After my heart attack and stents I was put on a Mediteranian Diet which includes a lot of greens, so I would ask the question as to why you need to stay away from them.
Denny

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2010-08-06 10:23:01 -0500 Report

I read somewhere that if you consistantly ate the same amount of greens every day they could factor that in when doing the blood tests to adjust how much warfarin you needed. Don't remember where I found the info.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-08-05 17:17:12 -0500 Report

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