ELITES part two

By gregsteele Latest Reply 2010-08-01 17:58:41 -0500
Started 2010-07-27 08:40:19 -0500

I know this discussion has bothered some and encouraged others first a little bit of setting the record straight i dont want this to be political but that cant be helped hopefully everyone will stay focused and not let political associations interfere , also it was said this is not the place for this discussion if its not then there is no place for it we are all here for information and support i feel like family when im here and i have always fiercely protected my family the bigger picture here is the "ELITES" have declared war on a number of groups and as diabetics we are being attacked through the war on obeseity as RICHARD noted type one wasnt brought up that is because the money lies with the type twos who far outnumber type ones when this health care bill all goes into effect (yes i have read it all although some was not understandable as it went against other parts ) we will have friends and nieghbors turning each other in to the (fat police ) for lack of a better term we will have rationed care for those of us who need it most (in another istallment we will talk about that aspect) if youve read the bill its very clear where this is going this whole thing is well choreagraphed even though it appears disorganized the first part that affects us (diabetics ) is attacking the obese and as oprah and oz showed they think dibetics are all fat and lazy if you are receiving govt assistance you will be the first to feel the effects food stamps will be more controlled as to what can and cannot be bought weight will become the major subject at dr visits etc so far from being devisive im trying to bring all together because divided they will cause us much grief together we can steer things our way ive said alot mostly trying to explain my motives we will get into particulars in another installment again i want all together not divided so take this for what it is if youre not interested thats fine to the rest i will have more next time as always love to aqll GREG

22 replies

vonnareverse 2010-07-31 18:06:01 -0500 Report

gregsteele ,…No No Your absolutely right, this is about health fitness threw Nutritions,..but were being stabbed in the back by the elites who Hold majority stock in Medical pharmasutical and dietary companys…just to name afew.

In Labrotories all over the America, as far back as the early 80's they had been Injecting A small Amount of MSG in to new born mice,..just one shot ! and they all grow up Diabetic and obese. that right they know and have known exactly the major culprit that triggers it. and its in there financial best interest to keep it a secret. Even the FDA Put NO limit On how much food companys and fast food resteraunts can put in there food. KFC is one of the worst offenders,..Or they would be offenders If it was restricted Or god willing Completely banned.

FDA does not even require it to be listed on the lable so you can't Smart shop to avoid it.

the best cure and reversal of type 2 diabeties Ins 6 weeks of a All raw foods Diet,…high in all kinds of greens. it has bene proven Again and again,..but still the FDA and CDC do not advocate for it.

Google something called Codex Alamanterious,..Its a Law there trying to pass that will criminalizeOrganic gardening, and the selling or Shareing of home grown priduce,…Evin going so far as to name Vitamins and Minerals as Toxins, that need to be controlled by the government,..that not by the people that the government by the Elite for the elite of the Elite.
and last time I look I was just a garden variety house wife.

I love you Spirit and your right on traqck with what Your saying. Love V.

kdroberts 2010-07-31 20:18:21 -0500 Report

I have never seen anything other than marketing that shoes a raw food diet high in whole grains can cure diabetes. For most it will make blood sugar rise to dangerous levels. Oh, and since MSG is a non-propriatory additive it must be included in the list of ingredients by law.

bettymachete 2010-08-01 13:28:48 -0500 Report

Vonna I have been reading up on the Codex Alamanterious and agree, it is EYE Opening to be sure. It's actually one of those scary moments that change your life and how you view the world.

GabbyPA 2010-08-01 17:58:41 -0500 Report

Betty, do you have any links that you have been using for the Codex Alamanterious? I can't seem to locate a good site on it.

GabbyPA 2010-07-27 18:12:03 -0500 Report

I have been very active in writing not only my representatives in DC, but also my state legislatures. I am working on a campaign for a US Senate candidate because I too am wanting to get involved to make a difference. Not just for me, but for the people that should be heard. Everyone needs to take part, but most of all, we need to take responsibility. We have to do for ourselves. We have to be our own advocates. We have a voice, we need to be using it. No matter what side you stand on. If it is important to you, you need to be the one doing something about it. This is true in our battle with diabetes as much as it is true in all parts of our lives.

gregsteele 2010-07-28 10:42:06 -0500 Report

If we all get involved we can make a difference we are a large group and together as one we could have a very strong impact no doubt love to all GREG

Richard157 2010-07-27 16:12:23 -0500 Report

27% of type 2 diabetics use insulin. Here is the link that makes that statement. It is based on data from the year 2004.


There are approximately 24 million diabetics in the US, based on 2007 data. About 10% of them are type 1, and 90% are type 2. So there were 2,400,000 type 1's and 21,600,000 type 2's in 2007. Since 27% of the type 2's use insulin, and 100% of the type 1's use insulin, there were 2,400,000 type 1's using insulin, and 5,832,000 type 2's using insulin. So there are 3,432,000 more type 2 insulin users than type 1 insulin users. The insulin companies make a lot more money off type 2's than type 1's.

gregsteele 2010-07-27 16:46:29 -0500 Report

roughly 1/12 of the population and healthcare 1/6 of the fed budget not hard to make the connection of where cost savings fit in the picture now is it ? love to all GREG

MAYS 2010-07-27 09:34:06 -0500 Report

More money is funded for type 1 diabetes research both medically and politically,
type 1 diabetics must purchase medical supplies to stay alive, but the purchase of such by a type 2 diabetic is optional.

When diabetes research is funded, it's not funded as a whole, it's separated with type 1 getting the lions share, unfortunately there are more type 2 diabetics.
The money made off of type 2 diabetics involves multiple and mostly unnecessary visits to the doctor, medications, medical supplies and gizmos, not to mention the numerous items geared towards "eliminating" diabetes (equipment,books,foods, etc).
One of the major stumbling blocks that was associated with the universal healthcare plan approved by congress was the disagreement between lawmakers and the insurance companies concerning type 2 diabetes as a pre existing condition and their reluctancy to want to cover it.

Different methods and approaches are needed to get messages across in todays times.
As kdroberts explained, it's all about money, ratings and popularity.

In my opinion the fight needs to be taken to the lawmakers and the insurance companies, all politicians fear for their political lives as politicians, make them accountable to you, the insurance companies understand money, they actually loan and invest more money than the banks do !

Organizations must also be invited in to fight on behalf of the diabetic, these organizations can open more doors and draw more attention than the masses can sometimes via lawsuits, congressional hearings, etc..

My point is this, slice the pie and distribute it to those who are hungry for it.
Email is great, but NOTHING provokes more fear than a personalized, signed letter delivered courtesy of one of the following, USPS, UPS or FEDEX.
(Notification of pending legal action is always delivered this way)

Diabetics (all !) have to become the poster children and spokespeople for diabetes awareness and care, so when misinformation is presented, or any other injustice towards diabetes is commited, it can and must be corrected.

There are many roles to play in this real life production of "Diabetes, Finally The Truth Told."
Division of forces can be disastrous, diabetics must remember that this is about them and their ailment, choosing the correct course of action is crucial to success.


kdroberts 2010-07-27 10:00:32 -0500 Report

My oh my. Type 1 certainly doesn't get the lions share of money in terms of research. Most research in terms of the disease and treatments are for type 2 because that's where the big money is. Insulin advances are mostly down to type 2's because they are the bigger consumers, type 1's luck out because of it. For a lot of type 2's the same treatment that is essential to a type 1 is essential to them and they will suffer the exact same issues a type 1 will if they don't have it. Type 1 is starting to get more funding but it's still lagging way behind type 2, which I guess based on the numbers is how it should be.

gregsteele 2010-07-27 10:05:38 -0500 Report

everything ive come across points to type one getting the funding what gives am i missing something?

gregsteele 2010-07-27 10:18:57 -0500 Report

If im wrong about the funding eqaution thats fine im wrong what im wanting is for all to work together as MAYS stated the politicians are all running scared last time i checked we are over 200,000 strong here that many letters, e-mails, phone calls will get someones attention sounds like a great place to start anyone that would like to maybe write a form letter we could all use please step forward love to all GREG

gregsteele 2010-07-27 12:36:19 -0500 Report

Excellent link and ive checked several major cities and you are correct in clinical trials that are advertising for people it is heavily weighted towards type twos so i apologize for any confusion caused by that mistatement i stand behind the rest of my comments thanks for pointing out the mistake love to all GREG

kdroberts 2010-07-27 10:49:20 -0500 Report

If you look at clinicaltrials.gov and see what drug and research trials are going on in your area you might start to see a pattern. Just the first 100 listed for diabetes in my area there are 79 which require types 2's, 16 that require type 1's or insulin dependent diabetics, 1 for gestational and 4 that want type 1 or type 2's. That's a very heavy lean towards type 2.

gregsteele 2010-07-27 10:55:57 -0500 Report

Thanks im going to run it for several cities and get a pattern i want to be sure i know the facts of anything i share so i dont be the one misinforming again thanks my friend love to all GREG

MAYS 2010-07-27 10:09:33 -0500 Report

You think so ? (no argument)
I guess we differ in thought on this but not on much else concerning diabetes.

gregsteele 2010-07-27 10:00:44 -0500 Report

my point exactly the crux of the problem is the money to be made and or lost we must stand together type one and type two and all the subtypes together we can cause change disjointed they will continue to beat up on us as for funding of research youre exactly right the money goes to type 1 which if cured should also give us the cure for type 2 my point in all this is if the misinformation keeps up the fight will be geared towards the savings affected by stopping obesity instead of where it needs to be in research if it goes as is the focus will be lost love to all GREG