ELITES and their war on diabetics

By gregsteele Latest Reply 2010-08-02 18:19:50 -0500
Started 2010-07-24 17:16:13 -0500

as i read the discussion started by crashnot about oprah and dr. ozs show about diabetics i got to thinking about why they would spread disinformation (yes i did watch the show on a friends dvr ) The "ELITES" have been given so much power by us the ones that spend their dollars supporting the crap they spout everyday we have given our country to a bunch of people that dont care about patriotism, god ,freedoms or any of the other things we as americans hold dear we have nearly lost our country to a group of people that want nothing but our money and to control us by limiting our freedoms to what they want not what our constitution states we have allowed them to shape our lives as well as our thoughts we are diabetics that is not our faults its not because we ate sweets like crazed animals ,its not because some of us are overweight, its not because some of us smoke its because we are diabetic for whatever reason god chose i for one am sick of it and will not spend another dollar knowingly on anything to do with these people that choose to make pariahs of us just because we have a disease they can make a dollar off of if this offends anyone id like to apologize but i cant GOD BLESS AMERICA love to all GREG

22 replies

Richard157 2010-07-25 16:55:32 -0500 Report

Good discussion here. Thanks Greg!

Unless I am badly mistaken Oz did not say anything about Type 1 during that show. Do any of you remember him mentioning it? I rather doubt he even knows about Type 1. His cusade seemed to be against obesity, as though eliminating that would totally wipe out diabetes. There are about 2.5 million Type 1's in the US. We are part of the picture too!

gregsteele 2010-07-26 11:16:34 -0500 Report

Thanks RICHARD i hope it will help,sometimes we have to do or say things that make us uncomfortable but if it gets people talking and more importantly sets the record straight its worth it and youre correct type one was not mentioned i would imagine its due to the crusade against obesity and the fact there are so many more type twos so therfore much more money to be made from them( always comes back to money doesnt it ?)

realsis77 2010-08-02 13:44:50 -0500 Report

It was suggested that obesity is a cause of diabetic people. That's simply not true. I weigh 115 pound and I am a DIABETIC!! Now what would they say about that in the show??

GabbyPA 2010-08-02 18:19:50 -0500 Report

You must remember there is a second agenda tied into that. If they can attack the obesity issue by scaring you into change so you won't get diabetes. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. There are connections, but I believe that it goes beyond the weight, but what is causing the weight gain in some of the GMO foods and preservatives that we have in our diets. It is all connected in a web of deceit and uncertainty that allows us to point fingers in 10 different directions at the same time.

DJ 2010-07-25 11:13:22 -0500 Report

Ok, gonna add my 4cents(inflation), First off for all those hollering about Oprah & Dr.Oz and the mis-information they are putting out there…They both have websites and my thoughts are why aren't we letting them know just how we feel about what they have said??? Our Outrage at their mis-information and helping to add to the poor treatment of Diabetics needs to be voiced, and voiced loudly and often!! There are many ways to let these public figures know how we feel besides voiceing it to each other…same goes for those who feel all diabetics are Fat,sugar infusing,lazy people. It is called fighting back and providing the correct information…getting people to join DC and other diabetic sites…Oprah and Dr.Oz also have email address's,so if you feel they have been giving out the wrong info…tell them so!!
Also for those of you who belong to social networks..IE: Facebook,My Space and the like…Post the DC link on your wall or front page so people with Diabetes or those caring for people with Diabetes can come and learn with us, and maybe even those who just want to learn the truth will come and check it out…We need to just be informative and persistant.
I personally do not care what anyone says about my diabetes, but I won't stand by and do nothing while public figures who command the attention and respect of millions mis-use that power by providing the wrong information!! As far as I know neither Oprah or Dr.Oz have diabetes..so until they can walk a mile in our shoes..They will NEVER be experts on the topic either!!
(There I changed it so no one is offended!!)

bettymachete 2010-07-25 11:25:38 -0500 Report

Hiya DJ Yes write to her, I have. I don't think anyone here is being abusive however, stating a strong opinion isn't abuse. :)

gregsteele 2010-07-25 16:16:49 -0500 Report

I have written to both and far from being abusive i feel we all need to know whats being said and informed so as we can all write them and inform them they are misinforming love to all GREG

gregsteele 2010-07-25 16:56:01 -0500 Report

If we dont voice it to each other then we are defeating the purpose of having an informative website to help each other i may be wrong but what i get from this site is part informative, part social networking and more than anything support if im wrong someone please correct me because i must be missing the point love to all GREG

DJ 2010-07-27 07:24:39 -0500 Report

Greg Hunny, I wasn't saying anyone was abusive or negative..far from it!! this is one of the reasons that I don't say much on this site anymore…because it seems someone always mis-understands what I am trying to say…all I said was that if we write to them it should be in an informative frame of mind…Not that anyone here would do otherwise…Ok, so I am done adding my 4 cents anymore, and I am gone from here once again…Sorry if I hurt anyones feelings(BETTY) or Greg or anyone…

gregsteele 2010-07-27 08:12:09 -0500 Report

not saying anything against you and i know you werent beating me up was only trying to raise awareness please keep with me and help get everyone involved as one we can effect change dont skip out now love to all GREG

kdroberts 2010-07-27 07:56:39 -0500 Report

This is not the first show on diabetes they have done and after each one they get a slew of complaints from diabetics, doctors and diabetic associations. Now a few years on the content of the show is the same. Oprah and Dr Oz are about entertainment, ratings, popularity and being in the spotlight. I doubt that will ever change no matter how many people write to them.

GabbyPA 2010-07-25 08:25:18 -0500 Report

I am so glad to see a discussion that leans this way. I avoid doing that because I would not be as nice as you were Greg...thank goodness for men and women like you. Thank you for sharing. I really do appreciate it, more than you know.

bettymachete 2010-07-24 20:33:02 -0500 Report

Oh I am gonna rant with ya! lol What gets me is people are starting to attack people over their weight now assuming that they are going to rob them of health benefits. Now that health-care is going to be nationalized, diabetics, to the misinformed, is already being proclaimed as the scourge of the new system. I've seen it, and heard it and it's not just smart ass comments either. This kind of treatment of diabetics no matter the type is gaining momentum because of people like Dr. Oz and Oprah propagate nonsense. They have a responsibility to their public, if they want to inform they should give the FACTS and I can't stand it anymore. When they and others spread misinformation they excuse the misguided behavior of others towards diabetics. (Side note: watched a group a children teasing a heavier boy, calling him all sorts of names, "diabetic" etc, telling him he was going to die, "My mom said that we will have to pay for you and your Dad now when you go to the doctor" The poor boy was in tears and it was all I could do to not take those kids over my knee)

I don't like being compartmentalized by society due to a condition, when diabetes doesn't seem to follow any rules.

The explosion in obesity and pre-diabetes is not a failure of the health care system, but the inevitable result of the society we have designed.

I can and do talk diet and exercise all day, but it's really spitting in the wind in a country that: provides massive subsidies to the sugar, soy and corn industries; allows schools to eliminate phys ed and sell junk food to kids; designs cities so that walking is impossible and every activity depends on driving; and so on.

I don't blame anyone or anything about my being diabetic. I have led a active life and I ate what I felt was good nutrition, I've managed to stay a healthy weight. It was in my genetics plain and simple.

Until the individuals makes the decision that, in spite of all the societal forces pushing in the opposite direction, they are going to exercise and lose weight they can maybe avoid it, but there are many of us who have it that got diabetes due to genes, virus, chemotherapy or whatever there is nothing else I can do but try my best to keep educated and educate my children and others and provide them with the knowledge that I have gained.

MAYS 2010-07-24 20:49:17 -0500 Report

It's up to diabetics to be the first line of defense concerning diabetes awareness, knowledge, facts and action, we are the faces, voices and action pertaining to diabetes.
If we don't correct and connect, who will ?

bettymachete 2010-07-24 20:55:59 -0500 Report

I agree Mays, which is why that whole Oprah thing got me so steamed when it's excused by saying "well at least they got some information out there". Sure they got information out there but much of it was misinformation between the ads for Oreos. Oh and I know I wasn't the only one writing Oprah to correct.

Elrond 2010-07-24 19:04:31 -0500 Report

Agreed. I frequently talk about my diabetes and meet many people who are sadly misinformed about the disease. I do my best to educate them but frequently, I fear that their preconceived notions are too deeply rooted. But there have been TV shows in the past with the specific intent to inform people about diabetes. Unfortunately, the only audience was diabetics and the shows 'died on the vine' for lack of a widespread audience. Non-diabetics just tune us out. Except as Greg said, unless they can milk money from us. Well, I'll climb carefully down from the soap box. (my days of jumping from things are over)

Pam S
Pam S 2010-07-25 05:12:47 -0500 Report

i have to say I agree with you statement. I was watching a show on TV but it doesn't seem to be on anymore. I figure the best way I can alert people…TAKE MY INSUL IN PUBLIC…pull out my pens. my needles. my test strips…and oh yeah…i get LOTS of questions. No better way than to show it.

Elrond 2010-07-25 05:56:24 -0500 Report

If I'm in a restaurant and need to test, I do it right there at the table. I don't make a show of it but I don't try to hide it either. It's a fact of life and if it bothers anyone, they can look the other way. Now that I'm on an insulin pump, though, I can't shock anyone by pushing buttons.

MAYS 2010-07-24 18:51:21 -0500 Report

Politics + Money = Power !
The Rich get Richer, and the Poor get Poorer !
It's up to the individual to want, to be, and to do do (for self).

Unfortunately, it's a system that we are forced to live with and within.
Reform of such is not impossible, it's just a much more complicated piece of machinery than any one individual can dismantle.

Knowing the rules of the game allows one to be a little more prepared to play the game, being in a position to make changes from within requires education and a little luck plus the pulling of some strings.

Education of, and about diabetes is the key to the progress and public awareness of this disease, many diabetics are misinformed and pass this information onto others.
Diabetics must correct this, sites such as (DC), and others will be the key to this, as well as the medical industry.

Correct knowledge is the key, misinformation should be corrected, or discarded.
It's up to us.


petals 2010-07-24 18:26:55 -0500 Report

I totally agree with you Greg, 100% !!! And you sure as heck didn't offend me!1 Rock On!!

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