By harry1 Latest Reply 2010-07-24 11:22:12 -0500
Started 2010-07-20 18:30:02 -0500

How much insulin is too much? i take 15 units of humalog at breakfast… 20 units at supper…and 30 units of humulin n in the am…and 65 units at bedtime. with no results my bs still ranges from 260 to 400 i watch my carbs and eat around 1200 carlories at day. i have to email my bs readings every week to the endo and they keep raising the dosage. i'm starting to get depress more over it.
thanks harry

12 replies

Armourer 2010-07-24 11:22:12 -0500 Report

When I started on insulin four years ago I did 6 units of Lantus a day, now I'm at 100 units of Lantus a day, plus I take Humalog at 20 plus sliding scale and carb counting. My average of insulin a day total is 200 units. Since adding carb counting a month and a half ago my BG has gone down into the normal range. Some day's it doesn't even go above 100. My doc said that down the road my insulin take could go up a couple more hundred units because I'm extremely insulin resistance. Doc broke up the Lantus into 50 units morning, 50 at night. Also move around your shots. Nobody told me this until a couple months ago when I noticed that one spot of my stomach was getting different color and an extra layer of fat. Never take more than 50 units in one shot, if you need to take more breakup the amount and choose different site.

abjt4 2010-07-23 17:23:52 -0500 Report

Hi Harry, When I started taking Levemir in the mornings, my doctor told me to raise it by 3 units every morning till my numbers came down to where they should be. I have capped off at 35 units. My numbers in the mornings are ranging between 107 and 120. I have been at 35 units now for two weeks. I just started on the Novolog a couple days ago, and I think it will be the hardest for me to figure out. I have a friend who is also diabetic and he takes 50 units of insulin in the am.

GabbyPA 2010-07-21 19:41:35 -0500 Report

Hi Harry,
Do you write down everything you eat? Sometimes we "guess" at what we are doing, and suddenly we find that we are way out of our goals and range. That might help with a "true" telling of what you are eating.

15 carbs a meal seems very low, specially if you are struggling with such high levels. There might be a miss-communication in the understanding of carb counting. Here are a couple of videos that make is easier to understand.

Diane987 2010-07-21 14:01:18 -0500 Report

Hi Harry,

First, don't get depressed, be happy you found a place on the internet full of people that want to help you figure this out. In order to do that, there are a few questions I have that I think will help everyone help you better. How much do you weigh, how tall are you and what is your activity level? The reason I ask is because your caloric intake is low. For example, if you are a 35 year old man at 5'7" and 200 lbs your basal metabolic rate calculates to about 1800 calories. A woman of that same size has a BMR of 1637. That is the bare minimum of calories you can ingest per day just for your body to not feel like you are starving. If you have any sort of activity level the caloric intake should be even higher. A 1200 calorie daily intake would have most people in a metabolic tailspin which could account for some of your insulin issues.

Another question is how many and what kind of carbs specifically are you eating per meal and what else are you eating? Simple carbs will make my BS soar whereas complex carbs, not so much. I see you mentioned breakfast and supper but not lunch or snack. How many meals are you eating per day? I eat 3 meals and 3 snacks per day. My caloric intake is between 1800 - 2000 calories per day. That number is about 400 calories lower than what calorie calculators suggest I have, but it is where my doctor wants it. She says those calorie calculators tend to suggest too many calories. If you have never seen one try this link below. It is where I got the BMR above.

Some of the others raise some interesting questions also that would be helpful in figuring this out. We look forward to hearing your answers.


Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-07-21 12:36:23 -0500 Report

I'm taking about the same right now. It takes time to get everything adjust to you. Everyone is different. Are you trying to lose weight? If so 1200 calories is a good number. HANG IN THERE. It will all get better!!! : )

Danni-the-diabetic 2010-07-21 02:53:43 -0500 Report

Hey, everyones body is different, therefore medicines effect people different. Some people need to take more than others. When I was a younger teenager they said I took enough to take an elephant down lol, but than my body changed (stopped puberty) and my sugars were dropping and I got my doses in half. If you are following your diet than there is nothing you are doing wrong. Try not to get discouraged, hang in there and you guys will figure out the right dose for you.
Good luck :)

harry1 2010-07-20 21:35:12 -0500 Report

i take bs first thing in am, before lunch, before supper, and before bedtime and twice a week at 3am. we keep carbs around 15 per meal. i keep my pens in the refig and i don't get a new one out until the one that i am using gets to 60 units left and i get the rx reilled once a month. i inject into my stomach.

stacey71 2010-07-20 21:08:14 -0500 Report

that is what i did then they found i was t1 not t2 so then my dr. got me a pump and it work alot better now some people are told they are t2 but they are really t1.5 and t 1.5 is just like t1 but 1.5 is for heavier people

kdroberts 2010-07-20 20:05:36 -0500 Report

Too much insulin is whatever it takes to give you low blood sugar.

A few questions. When are you taking your blood sugar? How may carbs do you eat at each meal? How are you storing your insulin? How old is the insulin? How do you inject the insulin?

Harlen 2010-07-20 19:59:58 -0500 Report

They did that to me ,thats why I had to learn how to count carbs and that way I was able to ajust my meds as I needed too I got so good at it they put me on the pump.
Best wishes

Crashnot 2010-07-20 19:10:02 -0500 Report

110 units a day? Wow! I take 25, although I'm quite sensitive to the insulin. I'm with Spunky. I'd be curious what your actual carb intake is. If you aren't weighing or measuring the food, it's hard to judge your actual intake. What type of food are you counting as carbs? Potatoes, bread, pasta, rice? Or fiberous veggies and whole-grains? Last of all, what type of exercise do you get each day?

Hope we can help!

spunkyrose 2010-07-20 19:00:53 -0500 Report

What do you mean you "watch your carbs"? I take it with the name harry, you are a man. If so, 1200 calories is too low for a man. A person at bed rest
burns 1200 calories. If you are not bed ridden, you cannot exist on 1200
calories for very long. Not only that, you will be malnourished. At 1200 calories, it is unlikely you eat enough carbs to raise your blood sugar to 400.
Also with all that insulin (I take insulin) you would be in a diabetic coma by now,
as your blood sugar woulds be way too low.

I suspect you do not understand food content as to calories and carbohydrates.

i would like to help you, but need more information.

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