Dr. Oz on Type 2

By Crashnot Latest Reply 2010-08-03 09:04:28 -0500
Started 2010-07-19 19:09:07 -0500

Just came across this on the Oprah site today. I actually learned a few things!


40 replies

PetiePal 2010-08-03 09:04:28 -0500 Report

My Mother is like a Dr. Oz advocate lol. She loves the guy. I think he's interesting and I own that Body book which is a great resource. However he is a heart specialist as Richard pointed out and while his enthusiasm is commendable I think his un-expertise does spread of lot of perceptions that aren't always 100% factual.

I'd like him better if he had more specialists on who really knew what they were talking about and he was the facilitator instead of the main info giver.

Richard157 2010-07-24 12:32:59 -0500 Report

I listen to the Oprah show when diabetes was discussed. The not so wonderful wizard of Oz was not well prepared. He is a heart specialist and he knows very little about diabetes. He made several mistakes during the show that day. I do agree with Gabby though, getting this show on TV and making the public aware of diabetes and its potential for serious complications, made it a worthwhile effort.

When Oz started his speech he made a comment about 80 million diabetics in the US today. That is what many people thought he said. What he actually said was that there are 80 million people in the US who are diabetics, or are on the verge. Some people did not catch that last part of the statement. The actual number of diabetics in the US is estimated to be approximately 25 million. That means that 55 million of the 80 million people Oz mentioned are the ones on the verge of becoming diabetics. I am assuming Oz is referring to people who are very much overweight, but do NOT have diabetes at this time. That would lead you to believe that every person who is very much overweight has the potential of becoming a diabetic. That is not true. Overweight people who have the gene that predisposes their becoming Type 2 diabetics are the ones who should be watching their weight and diets. The ones who do not have that gene may never be diabetics, no matter how much overweight they become. Those who do not have the gene shoould not feel safe in becoming even more overweight due to the potential for heart attacks and other physical problems.

Many overweight people do NOT have the gene that predisposes them to develop Type 2 diabetes. There is a blood test that will determine whether you have the gene. The gene that predisposes Type 1 diabetes can also be detected. If you want to read more abou this Google "Trial Net". I know a Type 1 diabetic in Atlanta who had his young children tested. They did not have the gene that would predispose their becoming Type 1. He and his wife were very much relieved.

Dr Oz did make mistakes in his delivery, but his presentation made an impact and i am sure that many listeners sat up and took notice. Some may have gone to their doctors to be examined for diabetes. They may not have gone if they had not listened to the show that day.

Crashnot 2010-07-24 13:28:48 -0500 Report

I'll have to Google that for sure. I was aware of a study several years ago where they were collecting blood samples to research the DNA, and one result of taking part would be to find out if your tested children had the gene. We couldn't get any blood out of my little guy's arm, alas, so did not go through with the study. Do you know if that test is by finger-prick Richard? Or needle?

Richard157 2010-07-24 14:54:05 -0500 Report

No I don't know. It would depend on how much blood is needed, I suppose. It seems to me that it would require more blood than yoyu can get from a finger prick.

GabbyPA 2010-07-21 05:27:32 -0500 Report

I guess what I am saying is that if we can get some information out there it is good. Diabetes is far to complicated to fit into a few segments. It takes us a lifetime to figure things out, and even then the changes are almost daily. I know they want to go for the shock factor. After all, what is an Oprah show if you don't cry (I don't watch her anymore, by the way, but used to) I know that propagating misinformation is not good, but sometimes it is better to scare people into getting checked out. Let them find out that the information they have received is incorrect through research.

Shoot, I had a member tell me that her doctor said she was having low blood sugars because she was eating too MANY carbs! What? He also said that your lows are at 20. Good grief, by 20 you should be on the floor. And this person is treating her? I think he just plays a doctor on TV.

There is so much out there that is so wrong. People who don't live with it, don't get it. They try, but they don't test all day to see what is going on inside their bodies. The purpose of the show, and it is just a show, is to at least get people wondering. I would rather that they were 100% accurate, but it's just like your knowledge of a chronic disease that you don't suffer from. It is all filled with misconceptions and wrong information. The point is to get you to look at it and start your own education on it.

gregsteele 2010-07-21 13:03:18 -0500 Report

You have a point now i feel my comment may have been a little harsh love to all GREG

GabbyPA 2010-07-21 18:06:29 -0500 Report

No, not at all, and if that is how you felt, then it is better to state it so. There is a lot of junk out there and it does muddy the waters. However, as we learn, so we share. Sometimes the things we learn sound like junk, but in the end work for some of us. It is a fine line to cross, indeed.

bettymachete 2010-07-22 14:02:53 -0500 Report

I do see what your saying but this blatant misinformation shouldn't be easily dismissed. Oprah is an Industry who has made multi millions on her followers who trust her for advice on everything from books, politics to health matters. She should act more responsibly, but she won't, why…because she doesn't have to now, She's Oprah and he's Dr. Oz. That being said, the real responsibility lies in the viewer and them getting the information given and then researching it for the TRUTHS (After all do you really want your medical advice coming from a woman who can't say vagina, she says vajayjay UGH!) before they press their knowledge upon others. That is a huge problem with the super media influenced culture, anyone with a talk show is now God to many.

GabbyPA 2010-07-23 08:14:58 -0500 Report

Yes, and I have to say that I have fallen prey to that mentality. I used to like Oprah a lot and felt she did a lot of good for many people. But I woke up and saw the real deal, so now salt is always served with her recommendations. It is true that many follow her blindly. Those people will do that no matter who they choose to lead them.

I guess what is sad, is that no one in our community is able to reach the millions she does. That is what really needs to be fixed.

Mama Dee
Mama Dee 2010-07-23 12:18:20 -0500 Report

I agree w/you concerning this we may not be able to reach all the people that she can @ once but what we can continue to do is let everyone hear know (as you have done). Also send this out to all our e-mail contacts that each of us have. If we do that it will be a good start, I will copy & put in an e-mail. This is why we should all study & be approved for ourselves concerning everything. Things in the world & mostly God's word so that we all can say wait let me get some facts about this before I start this. See hear on this site no one says this is what you better do ought to do. We give suggestions to people that ask & say it may are may not work for you. No pressure in this house, HALLELUJAH.

Working 4 Jesus, & Loving it,
Mama Dee

Crashnot 2010-07-23 14:05:36 -0500 Report

The whole point of the Oprah show was to reach the 6 million undiagnosed people out there. Maybe they suspect they have it, maybe they're in denial, but her shock-and-awe approach was one way to rock them into getting it diagnosed and moving on to being inspired to treat it. Yes, the show was superficial on the various things. Perhaps some things were misleading. But I don't think any of them would cause people to get worse for following them. And hopefully it simplified a lot of concerns that doctors don't have time to explain well to patients anymore. At least knowing what questions to ask will lead some to learning what they need to know.

MAYS 2010-07-23 14:25:30 -0500 Report

Bringing Diabetes Awareness to the forefront is of the utmost importance,
hopefully many who were watching it took some time out to think about the possibility of being pre diabetic, or diabetic and made a doctors appointment, or at least did a little research concerning diabetes.

MAYS 2010-07-20 12:20:39 -0500 Report

Education is a lifelong, continuous process.
This applies to diabetics, diabetes and doctors, as diabetics we have to stay on top of what is out there, being said, done and discovered.

This information on the genetics of diabetes may interest some and stroke a debate in others, but it is worth reading, (in my opinion):




gregsteele 2010-07-20 12:00:14 -0500 Report

Im type 1 so maybe my opinion doesnt count but im so sick of ignorant people like Oprah, dr oz telling these lies they should be made to apologize and correct the misinformation they have put out im not overweight and never cared for sugar ate fairly healthy so screw them love to all GREG

LennyDenny 2010-07-20 12:14:39 -0500 Report

Your opinion does count and I agree with you. I'm 61 years old 6' tall and have never weighted over 210 lbs. I always eat health, did smoke for a lot of years, but never was a big lover of sweets. Although I work for a molasses company I still eat health. Appreciate your comments, never stop.

Mama Dee
Mama Dee 2010-07-23 12:27:48 -0500 Report

I agree w/you sir been stopped watching her, for years. Several things she try to act like she is so sure of that upsets me also. Such as telling a person how they should raise a child (you don't have any & stated don't want any) about diseases you claim how they should be treated (your not a Dr.), just a few examples. No your words are not harsh right on the money.

Working 4 Jesus, & Loving it,
Mama Dee

outrigger1945 2010-07-28 11:30:16 -0500 Report

I watch his show once and wile. To much about diets. He also tells you you can post questions on facebook he will wanswer them. Well I tried 3 times no response. So my opinion on him is not to good. Like other people said he is a heart Dr. and give opinions on so many different things. Oprah is an other one have not watched her in years. She talkes about diets and has been on how many? repeats herself to much and things she knows it all. Have to laugh at the shows where she gives stuff away like all this cars she didn't pay for one so how does he have the nerve to take the credit the same with any show were she gives stuff away.

LauraS 2010-07-20 11:36:05 -0500 Report

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Pat525 2010-07-22 15:01:59 -0500 Report

I am so sick of people (non diabetics) telling me what i should or shouldn't eat!
I have heard this all of my life.
Also, even medical people don't understand all of what being diabetic is about.
Everyone is different and diabetes cannot be treated the same for everyone.

LauraS 2010-07-20 11:36:04 -0500 Report

Family history, smoking, sedentary lifestyle … all these things contribute. If all fat people have diabeties why doesn't Oprah? I recently read that if your mother lived through a famine you are more likely to get type 2 diabeties. My mother lived through the depression, they ate horse meat and used to savor a banana as a treat. And if the government wants to stop the spread of type 2 diabeties then they should get high frutose corn syup out of our foods. I know of people who moved here from Europe and got fat. It's the steroids and HFCS in all our foods. Come on, we can hardly buy anything off the shelf that doesn't contain a s**t load of sugar. I don't tell people I have diabeties because they say things like I didn't take care of myself and ate too much, etc. So I keep it to myself and do the best I can to take better care of myself. It's not easy but it's better than losing a kidney.

healthygir1 2010-07-22 18:55:04 -0500 Report

I just learned about the relationship between famine and diabetes. Apparently it was first studied after WWII. The Nazis blocked the food supply to Amsterdam for the winter, known as the "Dutch Hunger Winter," and scientists discovered that the children of mothers who had been starved during their third trimester had extremely high rates of obesity, metabolic syndrome, and type ii diabetes. Turns out, the third trimester is where a baby's metabolism is programmed. If the baby is starved - it learns how to be very thrifty with the food it gets. Thereafter, everytime the person eats, a ton of insulin is released to try to store every calorie, leading to diabetes.

Of course, if the famine continues after the child is born, it still remains thin. But if the mother is starved, and the child has a normal diet, diabetes is highly likely.

Not so related to oprah, but i found it very interesting.

bettymachete 2010-07-19 20:52:24 -0500 Report

Sorry but I felt that show was a load of crap. Dr. Oz is a cardiologist not a specialist in Diabetes and obviously not a endo. His telling about how sugar is like crack to a diabetic is such a bunch of bull it made me angry. That all type II diabetics are fat slobs just hounding down candy stores like some crazed rabid dogs, we've done it to ourselves and will die of heart failure because of it.

Here's a link http://getbetterhealth.com/sensationalism-and...

Crashnot 2010-07-19 20:58:31 -0500 Report

I've only read the article, didn't see the show. But that wasn't the image their information gave me at all.

Mama Dee
Mama Dee 2010-07-23 12:36:28 -0500 Report

I feel the same my husband is not over weight & does not eat sweets never cared for them as a child. When a conversation is going on & you cannot state facts you ought to be there & be quiet.

Working 4 Jesus, & Loving it,
Mama Dee

GabbyPA 2010-07-19 20:04:42 -0500 Report

That will be one of the best awareness campaigns out there for this disease. Oz and Oprah are a team that can captivate viewers like no one else. I am glad they are talking about this.

kdroberts 2010-07-19 20:12:02 -0500 Report

Unfortunately they are still peddling the stereotypes and misinformation that won't really do any long term good and may actually harm people in the long run. They have been slammed by many, many people and organizations in the past for their shows on diabetes but they don't seem to care or change the content.

GabbyPA 2010-07-19 20:18:47 -0500 Report

That is a shame. Unfortunately, it happens in Doctor offices across the nation as well. We are our own best defense, and that is a kind of scary concept.

jcbuker 2010-07-20 14:32:41 -0500 Report

I agree, my doctor and dietitian were less than forthcoming on proper eating and spelling out what I can and cant eat and my carb limits are unknown. I am overweight and sedentary because I have MS and cant walk well so it makes it extra difficult for me. Someone needs to come up with a great exercise plan for people than cant walk and dont have money for personal trainers, club memberships or swimming priveledges or that cant spend a small fortune for videos and books.

kingdomlady 2010-07-23 10:47:34 -0500 Report

Education is also a very PERSONAL thing. You can glean it from home upbringing, formal education, your society, media etc. The Oprahs have become idols. i do think she has great ideas but some of the stuff, like grinding with a stone, is common in Africa, she did not discover it as an exercise to tone your arms…My great grandmother & ancestors before her did. Oprah only just got wind of it. like a christian who goes to church, returns home & does not read the scripture pastor shared, folks just listen to the Oprahs, Dr. Oz' like they are the ultimate where knowledge is concerned. Research for yourself & like i tell my kids, keep the good parts of what they share & toss the trash! I always told my kids, much as I enjoyed watching Oprah, why would I take weight loss tips from Oprah when she DOES NOT have HER weight in check? That's very unwise!

When I had partial hysterectomy in 2007 & had right ovary removed, Dr insisted I get hormone therapy. I refused. In June I had other ovary removed again this Dr insisted on hormone therapy. I refuse. I take Vit E & Evening Primrose & I'm yet to have a HOT FLASH…What they should have said is NEWS FLASH, you have options instead of trying to shove their recommendations down anyone's throat.

I had a dietician who literally starved me & I did not lose weight. I had it when she said I could not have snacks & should only drink lemon & splenda flavored water. I changed my dietician. The new one understood that as an African I did not want to weight 165lbs as recommended. I'd be ok with 175 (lose 20lbs). She explained need to stay away from foods that hike my blood sugar, recommended portion eating, more vegetables. I also stopped having desert w/ my meals. They became snack 2hours later. She also showed me best way to measure portions (sizes similar to DECK of card, computer mouse) and that helped a lots cos I'm not into measuring/ weighing food.

I used to walk and lost 1-2 lbs weekly. now when I walk or exercise, I don't lose weight. But I've discovered BIGGEST LOSER WORKHOUT DVD from library & that's the only one that's working for me. Lost 10lbs in the last 2 months!!!!!! I tried belly dancing, all sorts of exercise regimens that did not work.

Everyone is also different. When I eat one banana, my blood sugar shoots to the 180s, very rare. Highest mine goes is about 150. So you have to have a food diary & test your blood. After 2 years being diagnosed w/ Type 2, I KNOW what foods I should & should not eat. I can't eat watermellon (other's can) Everyone's body is different so you have to study you & the foods you eat.


Mama Dee
Mama Dee 2010-07-23 13:01:50 -0500 Report

Happy day to you,
I love the example you gave about Christians going to church then upon returning home not reading the scriptures that Pas. preached from. We should study & be approved for ourselves that's the only way we will know if what is preached is thus say the Lord, (not just cause Pas says so). Same what we should do concerning our health(do research). You are correct what may work for me may not work for you. Example watermelon it works for me but I don't care for it, but the fact that it helps me lose weight I have let myself tolorate it.

I told my children while they were growing up if a person ask you where you are going don't tell them where you've been. 1) that's not there busy, 2) that's not what they asked & 3) thats too much information. I say that to say this self preservation is the 1st rule of thumb be aware of everything & everyone around take care of you mind body & soul in order to do that you have to be equiped w/the foundation which is the Word (Bible). Once you have that & build your relationship w/God ask for discernment & wisdom this will help you w/your choices on how to take care of any sickness you are going thru.

Working 4 Jesus, & Loving it,
Mama Dee

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