Sharing some success but have questions!

bettymachete
By bettymachete Latest Reply 2010-06-29 08:40:13 -0500
Started 2010-06-24 15:00:26 -0500

Today was a big day for me. I went to see my doctor and not only was my bgl down to 91 and I am averaging 119 but I had lost 10 lbs. While my blood pressure and cholesterol levels are fine I was also given simvastain (for cholesterol) and lisinopril (for blood pressure). I am not really keen on adding more to my pill breakfast, but I was told that it was normal for diabetics to be prescribed this. Is anyone else on these medications too? I was in a bit of protest in being given even more pills to take but was told that these help heed off long term kidney damage. Any thoughts?


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Richard157
Richard157 2010-06-28 18:26:37 -0500 Report

Betty, I take pills for cholesterol (Vytorin), blood pressure (Altace), water retention (Hydrachlorothia) and gout (Alopurinol). I am Type 1 but I have insulin resistance so I take Avandia for that. I also take multiple vitamin tablets, vitamin D tablets and one aspirin each day. I have been taking some of the pills for more than 20 years. That must sound dreadful to you. Lol! I have been a diabetic for 64 years and my blood tests every 3 months are fantastic. The pills have certainly done me no harm.

There are people who have side effects from some meds. So far I have had no problems with any of mine. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

bettymachete
bettymachete 2010-06-29 08:40:13 -0500 Report

That's true Richard. I appreciate your post. I am taking lots of supplements myself. I am waiting to see my PCP to speak with him about the new scripts. If he agrees I will follow he knows me.

sherinek
sherinek 2010-06-26 23:28:46 -0500 Report

Congrats on excellent numbers. Good job, keep it up. Now, about extra meds, may be your dr gave extra meds as a precaution but, I dont know, if your blood pressure and cholesterol levels are good from the beggining, I wonder why start now, all of a sudden. He should have his reasons, but I feel you should discuss with him and clear your mind. Good luck and take care.

Katsarecool
Katsarecool 2010-06-26 04:32:31 -0500 Report

Ok I don't get why a doctor would put a patient on meds for blood pressure and/or cholesterol when their numbers are fine. These meds have some side affects and if one does not need them. Doctors have a tendency to over-orescribe. I am not advising you to not take them. Just be sure by asking the doctor to explain his/her reasoning for doing so.

I was recently diagnosed with type 2 and had a heart attack 4 years ago and that did not come up with my doctor though I am taking lisinopril for hypertension.

I got a jump start on treating the diabetes before I knew I had it by starting an exercise program of walking 2 miles three times a week. No easy feat when using a walker. But I lost twenty lbs that way. Lost five more after learning I had diabetes. LOL scared the food cravings right out of me.

Wishing everyone happiness and good health,

Nancy Ann

gregsteele
gregsteele 2010-06-25 03:39:04 -0500 Report

Congratulations on the numbers , thats great i also was told i needed a statin but my numbers were good that doctor would have given me so many pills id need a backpack when i went to the pharm so as you can imagine it was time for a new doc now we discuss any changes and work together my numbers are still good so far so good! again congrats love to all GREG

Emma2412
Emma2412 2010-06-24 22:26:16 -0500 Report

Hi, Betty
First, congratulations on your big day. That's great!
When my doctor prescribed simvastain for me, I told her flat out that she should put her prescription pad away because I would never take it.
I hate statin meds — actually, hate medicine of any type. I take my diabetes meds but that's all and that's just because there's no other way.
But I am looking for natural ways to get my LDL down and the HDL up. There are ways without resorting to statins.
Actually, I've been doing pretty good with my natural methods just by making a few dietary changes — not much, but important ones for me.
Of course, you have to make up your own mind as to what you want to take. But I always look at the side effects of something and from what I've read statins make more trouble than they cure. You only have one liver.

bettymachete
bettymachete 2010-06-25 09:22:22 -0500 Report

Amen Emma I am like you. I hate a pill regiment! I will never be one of those people who is popping pills for the rest of my life. I will never buy one of those Mun-Sun plastic containers. My diet is HDL rich and my latest screens showed exactly that. I had my whole family on HDL rich foods because several years ago my husband had a problem with it because he was always going out to eat fast foods at lunch while at work. With bad screens, he can't fly..so his job depends on being heart healthy. I don't need it as preventative medication I do well enough without it.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-06-24 21:46:55 -0500 Report

One of my biggest complaints is the "every diabetic needs this" speech. I got one for Lisinopril as well and it just made me mad. I protested and got the speech. You know, I did not see every other diabetic in the room with me...just me...nope, just me. I suppose in a weird way, I'm glad she did that. It made me really start standing up for myself.

Later when I saw my doctor (not the first lady, I refused to see her again) he gave me pravistatin. It is also a low dose med for my maintenance as well. I took it and it helped, though I was not really out of wack in the fist place. BUT it made my back and joints hurt so bad I quit taking it. It lowerd my cholesterol to 157, but I couldn't sleep at night. So I take niacin now. My next labs will tell me if I have to consider something again.

The problem is that once you area diagnosed with diabetes, they equate you with a person who has suffered a heart attack, health wise. Even if like me, you don't have those issues. They are preventative meds, and as long as you are comfortable with them, I would take them. Any help you can get. But I totally understand. In one month I went from zero meds to 5! What! How did that happen? sheesh.

bettymachete
bettymachete 2010-06-24 22:09:19 -0500 Report

I had to take lisinopril years ago because I did have high blood pressure through every pregnancy and for a few years after that. But I got all of that back down and dedicated myself to getting off it because I hated how I felt on it. I eventually did and have been able to keep my BP down without any medication at all for years. My primary care doctor was really impressed with my BP and cholesterol levels, only a week ago. So I am now shocked that I am being asked to take them. I just don't feel good taking them, I am going to wait till I see him again before I do. I am training to run a marathon for heavens sake!

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-06-24 22:15:45 -0500 Report

What I did with my doctor was ask him to help me keep an eye on things. Mine wanted to up my statin because my triglycerides were elevated. Because he knows I am very proactive in my treatment, I asked him to wait and see if my diet, exercise and other meds would be enough. So far so good. I might have to add those things in, but I am going to put them off as long as I can. I am not a fan of meds at all, so any time I can buy for myself is gold.
This is why working with your doctor is so important. They just get used to medicating their patients. They don't want to believe that we can actually make a difference and follow diets and exercise programs. I am not perfect, but I keep an eye on myself for the most part. He is happy, so am I. So we work as a team. I'm lucky, as I go to a clinic and I never thought I would have a great relationship with a clinic doctor.

bettymachete
bettymachete 2010-06-24 22:21:01 -0500 Report

I am going to take your advice and approach it that way. I have a really good realationship with my regular doc but since he's been gone on vacation I have another guy filling in for him. I really have a hard time thinking my doc would put me back on the meds I tried so hard to get off unless it was needed. I just don't think this guy knows me at all.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-06-24 22:32:47 -0500 Report

That's usually the problem. They think you are like everyone else who is non-compliant. Once you show them that you want to be part of the treatment, it usually gets better. Share with us how it goes.

monkeymama
monkeymama 2010-06-24 16:40:08 -0500 Report

I was on something with a "statin" in it (lipitor) and had a serious side effect where I was taken off of it immediately. i am actually taking 4,000mg of Omega 3 & 6 (Fish Oil) which is a better and more natural way than medications. I try to avoid as little oral medication as possible unless needed and that.

bettymachete
bettymachete 2010-06-24 20:02:35 -0500 Report

Can you explain what kind of side effect you had? I asked the pharmacist what they could be and he was so vague. My statin is 10mg I was told it was low dose but GAHHH I hate pills!

Diane987
Diane987 2010-06-24 20:20:28 -0500 Report

Here are the side effects that are listed at WebMD for lisinopril http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-6873-Lisinopr...

This one for simvastatin http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-6105-Simvasta...

Make sure you click on the link toward the middle of the page. It lists the side affects, how often they happen and how severe the reactions typically are to the drugs.

bettymachete
bettymachete 2010-06-24 20:29:31 -0500 Report

Thank you Diane, I have discussed this with my husband and until I see my internist I am not going to take these meds. As long as I can continue to do it naturally, which I am. Your links helped a LOT.

Diane987
Diane987 2010-06-24 16:33:11 -0500 Report

I have never liked it when doctors prescribe one medication to fight the side effects of another medication. Blood pressure medication is notorious for causing dizziness. You'll need a pill to keep you from being dizzy all day. If your cholesterol is good or at least getting better why would you need a pill that brings its own set of side effects. Not every diabetic is the same so there is no normal for us to be prescribed. We are not all the same and can't be treated the same just because some unknown other diabetics are on these medications. Maybe those other diabetics that are on those medications have high cholesterol and high blood pressure. I guess it is pretty obvious that I would not take them and if my doctor wants my blood pressure and my cholesterol lower I would do it with diet and exercise.

bettymachete
bettymachete 2010-06-24 16:49:57 -0500 Report

I agree 100% Diane I am very against having more and more meds. I dont see why I need these since it isn't even a problem. My HDL is was 78 and my LDL was 62 which are very good numbers. My PCP Dr. had remarked at how good my blood pressure was just a week ago. This is a totally new doctor and I am very leary about the need for these meds.

Thomas508
Thomas508 2010-06-24 15:16:17 -0500 Report

I also was put on simvastain for borderline cholesterol but my Dr. told me it wasn't a "life sentence" he said that my cholesterol was most likely high due to my very high numbers at diagnoses and we may drop it later. I, like you do not want to be on any more meds than I have to and want to drop it, I would actually like to drop the Metformin after a while and see how I can do with diet and exercise alone. My numbers were so high and I was feeling so bad at the time I thought I will do whatever you say doc! I have heard a lot of good things about simvastain though and if it goes back up again after coming off I will do it, but I hope to go without it. My blood pressure has always been good so I don’t know anything about the other med.
Congrats on the lower numbers!

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