Can you get rid of type 2 diabetes?

VeronnyBunny
By VeronnyBunny Latest Reply 2011-07-20 08:19:05 -0500
Started 2010-06-14 02:08:15 -0500

Hello, I had a question please.:) my nutritionist told me that you can get rid of type 2 diabetes with hard work, eating right and excercise because she has seen people do it. On the other hand, I have heard people say that you cant get rid of it and there is no cure, just that you can control it. Does anyone know for sure? Thank you!!!:)


33 replies

whitetigress
whitetigress 2010-10-22 16:46:51 -0500 Report

I honestly believe it is one's approach to diabetes that makes all the difference. I refuse to be labelled a "Diabetic". I have been diagnosed and it stops there. I am not an "I am" or "I have". As a result, normalizing my glucose or blood sugar and staying that way has been easy.

Rather than focussing on a "cure", I focus on maintaining a healthy diet and exercise and that is probably more than what the average citizen does. The longer you manage your state of health and maintain high standards, you don't have to worry about further problems developing. For example, I do not use any of the sweetners that are so popular: aspartame is very dangerous for our brain chemistry. Splenda contains clorine (which I do not want to consume). I only use stevia.

RAYT721
RAYT721 2010-06-16 17:47:50 -0500 Report

I'm sorry to say that your nutritionist may be giving false hope. Diabetes is a disease for which there can be control but unfortunately no cure. She may know of a case or two of a miraculous reversal but that would be the exception more than the rule. I believe your nutritionist is operating unethically in PROMISING you anything. All I can say is that not all nuts are in cans. She may know about nutrition but obviously not much about an incurable disease. You may wish to alert your doctor to what is being said. Someone needs a good slap in the back of the head!!!

cavie2
cavie2 2011-07-20 08:19:05 -0500 Report

I agree with RAYT721. I have asked several doctos' in my practice, the practice nurse who takes the diabetic clinic and knows more about diabetes than any of the doctors'. Also doctor at the hospital as well as the diabetic nursing staff they all say when you get your diabetes under control with no highs or lows and come off medication etc that just means exactly what it is YOU HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL. But you have not eradicated it out of your system because if you start eating unhealthily again it comes back in force. Diabetes is a killer disease and if it is not controlled will get steadily worse destroying internal organs, amputations of fingers and toes, blindness and eventually death.

Thomas508
Thomas508 2010-06-15 10:14:35 -0500 Report

Controlling something by diet is not the same thing as getting rid of it. If you have diabetes and you change your diet which in turn controls your blood sugar, that’s great but you are not rid of it nor or you cured. Go back to eat the things you used to and see what your blood glucose does then. The foods we eat do not make us have diabetes or not have it. I see people all over this country eating far worse than I ever have, who do not have it and I see people who are fit and eat healthy who do. I am all for encouraging someone to eat better and find a diet and exercise program that works for them but don’t give someone a false hope that they can cure this disease, it will only result in a bigger let down later. You can control this and you can do it with the right diet and exercise but when you slip back to the old ways and start to eat like a “normal” person again it will be back. This is a lifelong journey but it can be a good one if you go at it with the right attitude and stay on top of it.

monkeymama
monkeymama 2010-06-14 20:47:02 -0500 Report

Hello there! I am a nursing student and we are taught that "you can not" get rid of diabetes. There was a discussion in our class about this. It all comes down to proper management. If your body begins to change (for what ever reason), than your numbers are going to change too. It is a balancing act with diet, exercise, and medication. There is no cure!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-06-14 20:43:41 -0500 Report

I read the info about the rosedale diet and it does not say anything about curing diabetes. you can eat right lose the weigh and stop taking meds, but you will always be a diabetic.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-06-14 16:57:17 -0500 Report

Diabetes cannot be cured !
Pre Diabetes (which is not diabetes) can be reversed.

This information was taken from the site listed below:

http://www.diabetopaedia.com/faq.asp

The condition called diabetes Type 2, strictly speaking, is primarily not a disease - it is a disorder. If we can bring 'order' by early detection and correction through diet, exercise, weight correction etc, the disorder can be reversed in a majority of individuals.

But it is a two-way street.

It can again pop up its head when body conditions get reversed.

So we can't really look for a 'cure' for a condition like diabetes, which is present within us from the womb, manifests clinically (i.e. comes out as a clinically detectable disorder) at some stage in our life depending upon many interacting host and environmental factors, and may progress to create complications (or) regress to remission, which could be called "Temporary Cure".

To hold the remission (Cure) in place for several years or a lifetime requires careful surveillance and a good degree of luck! Diabetes is thus a life-long Companion - Condition rather than a disease or disorder and it is up to the individual to keep it like the former rather than the latter.

~Mays~

Linda49
Linda49 2010-06-14 18:35:11 -0500 Report

I did not have pre diabetes, I had type 2. My blood sugar was 206 and my A1C was
11. I was on metformin and a blood pressure medicine and a medicine for my cholesterol. Most doctors today are trained to treat the symptoms of a disease. If one pill doesn't help they will give you another to help some more. YOU have to take charge of your own body. Today my blood sugar was 84 and my last A1C in April was 5.9 FROM DIET AND VITAMINS ONLY!!!!!!!!! Do some serious research check out
rosedalediet.com and read his reports and findings on Leptin. I don't even have to exercise. Once your body learns to burn fat instead of sugar it's easy to keep the weight off and not have cravings like you do when your body only burns sugar. But you will understand it if you check out his website. We are taught by our doctors and society in general that we should eat a lowfat diet. But that isn't true. We need to eat fat to burn it. Omega 3, cod liver oil, flax oil are all good sources of good fat. Along with low carbs, like veggies (good green veggies) you can lower your blood sugar, your blood pressure and your cholesterol. It's really a miracle. Plus you will feel 20 years younger.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-06-14 18:54:28 -0500 Report

I will take the time to research both the site and the information that you have provided, in the meantime my survival depends on the current methods that I know of and practice daily, but I will give it an honest, open look.

~Mays~

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-06-14 19:09:06 -0500 Report

5.9 is not a non-diabetic number and "my blood sugar was 84" I'm assuming means fasting because it will change throughout the day. By the way, you are only treating the symptoms of diabetes with that diet, there are still genetic and other hormone issues that still exist.

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-06-15 08:51:03 -0500 Report

If you have "cured" yourself why do you bother coming to this site? I would think a non-diabetic would have better things to do?

bettymachete
bettymachete 2010-06-15 10:13:49 -0500 Report

Maybe I read this wrong but, I am very worried about someone pushing a diet that works by forcing the body into a state of ketosis (rosedale). It is dangerous for someone who is diabetic to enter into ketosis in Diabetic patients, ketosis can lead to a health conditions known as ketoacidosis, when the blood becomes highly acidic. Apart from minor symptoms, like vomiting and confusion it can lead to serious consequences like liver and kidney damage, coma or even death. Listen to your Doctors!! To say that one shouldn't exercise or take medication I find pretty irresponsible IMHO. I'm sorry but I can't help but be a bit skeptical of miracle cures and claims especially when the only thing you've posted seems to be a commercial testimonial in order to sell people with actual conditions.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-06-15 10:35:08 -0500 Report

Ketosis and ketoacidosis are different. It is safe for a diabetic, more so for a type 2 who is not in insulin, to be in ketosis but it needs to be controlled so it doesn't turn into ketoacidosis. The problem comes for a diabetic when there is not enough insulin in the body and the body is releasing too much glucagon which leads to the body producing way more ketones than just being in ketosis. The insulin level is usually the key to staying in ketosis and out of ketoacidosis.

I do agree 100% with the sentiment of your post though.

Fefi
Fefi 2010-06-17 11:47:26 -0500 Report

I am newly diagnosed, and follow Axe Nutrition's new book - God's Miracle Cure, where the author advocates the same thing re healthy fats. Definitely worth a try, as I too have lowered my readings - but I still need time!! Thanks Linda - this is soo encouraging and I for one would appreciate any diet related info, not whole recipes but how you find eating during the day [and what] that will really balance things e.g Do you try and avoid fruits ? and eat raw veggies mostly, or cooked ?
P.S I have started swimming daily and this has helped - I also want to feel 20 yrs younger !!
x Sunny

Linda49
Linda49 2010-06-14 07:31:36 -0500 Report

I disagree. I was diagnosed last October. I have found a diet that works. Diabetes is NOT about blood sugar. It is about Leptin and the communication between the cells. Do some research and find out for yourself. I have been off medicine for 4 months. My blood sugar stays between 84 and 127. I feel great. It can be reversed and with some true knowledge can totally get rid of the disease

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-06-14 09:05:55 -0500 Report

So, you can eat whatever you want, whenever you want and your blood sugar will never go above 127? Like drink a 2L of regular coke, eat a massive bowl of pasta and follow it up with a large slice of cheesecake?

How do you explain all the genetic markers and other hormones that play a bigger role than leptin or the findings that type 2's have high levels of inflammation or that in some cases an immune attack on the immune system itself could be to blame? I do kind of agree with one thing you said, high blood sugar is only a symptom of diabetes.

Linda49
Linda49 2010-06-14 18:22:51 -0500 Report

with the correct vitamins and the balance of protein, low carbs and good fat it will work. Once you train your body to use Leptin to burn fat and not sugar, it becomes easy, because you really don't want the starches and sugars. I can and do eat a slice of birthday cake or whatever once in a while. My body doesn't like it, but it doesn't affect my blood sugar more than someone with no diabetes.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-06-14 19:03:42 -0500 Report

That's not a cure or reversal, it's a management technique. It's like saying you cured your allergies by living in a bubble fed with purified oxygen. Sure, you won't have any symptoms but as soon as you stop doing it you soon find out how cured you are.

All this talk of detox is junk. If your liver and kidneys are not damaged then they are constantly detoxing your body and it takes less than a day for your body to start burning fat instead of sugars for energy, it's very, very easy to do.

I won't knock the diet because it's very sensible for most diabetics because it drastically reduced the amount of foods that will cause a rise in blood sugar. But it will not cure you and it's potentially quite dangerous to think it will and make others believe that it will. Oh, and 127 after a slice of birthday cake is very much out of the range of a non-diabetic person.

VeronnyBunny
VeronnyBunny 2010-06-14 15:46:27 -0500 Report

You were able to get rid of it? That's wonderful!!!:) What diet has been able to do this for you if I may ask? I really want to reverse mine. :(

Linda49
Linda49 2010-06-14 18:20:00 -0500 Report

Go to rosedalediet.com and check it out. I got on this plan 5 months ago and have never looked back. The first three weeks are rough because your body is detoxing itself, but once that is over it's smooth sailing. I don't eat bread, pasta, rice or any starches and I really don't miss them. When you understand the connection between Leptin and your fat cells-you will get it.

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-06-15 10:24:27 -0500 Report

I just read the info on the rosedale diet. It says right on it that it has NO clinical trails that it cure diabetes. It's nice that you feel better but it isn't right for you to make such claims that could cause someone great harm!!! : {{

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-06-14 07:09:47 -0500 Report

You can work hard and control it but it will always be there. Being medication free doesn't mean being diabetes free.

Linda49
Linda49 2010-06-14 18:23:56 -0500 Report

Go to rosedalediet.com and read what Dr. Rosedale says about diabetes. You CAN reverse it. I have done it.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-06-14 02:12:43 -0500 Report

In a word, no.
Diabetes is a chronic illness, meaning lifelong !

Linda49
Linda49 2010-06-14 18:39:23 -0500 Report

You are so misinformed. Don't be satisfied with controlling it. Be determined to get rid of it. Stop eating processed foods. Start eating protein and good fat and salads and veggies. I promise you it will work. Your diabetes will disappear.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-06-14 19:10:23 -0500 Report

Define disappear, reversed and cured. I have a feeling they mean very different things to you than the actual meanings.