New to type 2, Scared as all hell.

By Apoptygma Latest Reply 2010-08-24 17:33:27 -0500
Started 2010-06-07 18:07:31 -0500

So a few days ago I get told by the endocrinologist I have Type 2, I get sent off from the visit with orders for blood work, cortisol tests-etc etc. I get told to by this drink "Glycemic Foundation" for 70 bucks, and get told to replace dinner with it for the next few weeks to "even out my levels" No other info. So here we are, I've eaten nothing but a couple carrots, a small bag of fritos and a piece of wheat bread for the last few days—Terrified I'm gonna kill myself if I eat something more, I haven't started the drink yet because I'm worried about it. So I go online to find out what I can do, and I get told "Eat this, No wait don't" with nearly every single food out there.

I'm so frustrated and confused that I can feel my head ready to pop. ..That and I'm starving. lol Help? Any of it? Please for the love of god..? Is 2 slices of pizza gonna kill me tonight if I eat them!?

69 replies

seventyonedragonflies 2010-08-24 17:33:27 -0500 Report

hey, i am rather new as well. You could not have stumbled onto a better site to learn and ask questions, i'm tellin' ya. so my little welcome to ya too.
But, the thing i have to say, its not as hard as you think it is right now. I am still leaning everyday, but there is soooo many things you can eat, and you eat all day. its just in small amounts. A side effort is your body starts to get use to all this healthier food, and gives you more energy, just a general sharper feeling. So, you can do this, and like i said you found the right bunch of people!

soldierswife 2010-06-19 13:41:47 -0500 Report

I had my doctor send me to a nutricionist! It was the greatest thing to happen to me since diagnosed with type 2. They put me on the 45 carbs per meal diet and my numbers have yet to go over 140 and within the allowed 2 hours to be under 140, mine is always in the 80's by then!! en are allowed 60 carbs per meal! Its so much easier than counting calories and what not! Try seeing a nutricionist or a dietician. They are great help!

Linda49 2010-06-18 07:01:34 -0500 Report

I felt exactly the same way you do when I first found out I had type 2. Go online to and check it out. It saved my life. My blood sugar stays between 94 and 127 most of the time. I am eating well and after the first few weeks, a slice of pizza once in a while will be allright.

pigman12 2010-06-16 21:44:56 -0500 Report

Sounds like the same thing all newly diagnosed people with diabetes goes through. I am a registered nurse and have had diabetes for 9 years. My Dad had diabetes for newly 30 years. I have learned alot over the years. First, people with other health conditions do not refer to themselves as their condition so, don't refer to yourself as a diabetic. You have diabetes. Diabetes is very complex chronic condition to fully understand. You can not learn everything in a day. Take one area of diabetes and learn and work on that item. When you understand that go onto another area to work on. Next, find a diabetes program supported by the American Diabetes Association. There may be one close to you. Check with your insurance carrier to see if they will cover the cost or part of the cost. You can check with your local hospital and see if they have an education program and/or a support group. Right now it looks like you have questions about diet and nutrition. Check with your doctor or hospital to see if they have a Certified Diabetic Diatician. This person can help set up a sensible nutrition plan for you to follow. Do Not go for some of the fad home treatments. Most do not work. Always run treatments and ideas past your doctor.

Being diagnosed with Diabetes today is not as scary as it was even 10 years ago. Medical advances have made controlling this desease easier and more effective. Don't give up hope.

You may want to join the American Diabetes Association. You get a monthly magazine that is full of useful information. I believe their web site is

Siddhartha 2010-06-16 15:18:18 -0500 Report

newbie here myself…diagnosed 2 months ago. its a big life changer for sure. i am slowly finding what works for ME. diet and exercise are BIG…most of all i try to keep it simple and take it easy, one day at a time.


tabby9146 2010-06-14 12:02:53 -0500 Report

Welcome to DC! I can't add a thing to what the others have said, there is much support here. I too was scared at first. I was on pills but I now control it by diet and exercise. Lots of people who start on pills, if they lose lots of weight, can go off them, I have heard of some who come off insulin. Insulin does sound scary to me, and I pray I am never on it. But I understand it really isn't hard to figure out how much yo need, when, etc. I hope you aren't scared anymore. It takes a few days of eating, to see what you can and can not eat, well weeks really, but you get less nervous with each day that you eat right and see the numbers. I just say make sure you exercise at least 30 minutes most days, doesn't have to be 7 days a week. I avoid white bread, white rice, potatoes, you can have sweet potatoes. I avoid pizza, unless it is very thin crust and then only a little and I have meat and veggies on it and no extra cheese. I can eat two or three slices of those little Totinos party pizzas I just try not to eat them too often that is very tempting to me. Two slices of pizza are fine once you get your BS under control, like I said just very thin crust. I can even eat Pizza Hut once in a while, as long as it is thin crust. I never touch pan crust.

SaraF 2010-06-14 02:36:14 -0500 Report

I was diagnosed two weeks ago and not even told what my numbers are. I was also told that I had to talk with a diabetes educator who never called to set up an appointment. I don't know what to eat or not to eat, whether I am supposed to test my glucose levels, or anything. My grandmother died of an insulin overdose and I am scared that if I go on insulin the same thing will happen to me. Also, my brother and sister were told that they had diabetes and two years later told that they don't have it. How do you know if your doctor is diagnosing you correctly? Any ideas?

alanbossman 2010-06-14 07:32:45 -0500 Report

Hi Sara, you can see another doc and have a bg test to see if you have diabetes. Also and if your are you need a meter and test stripsto check your bs levels.for food eat low carb meals. More fish, chicken and turkey. lots of green vegs and salads. eat all in portion size. Stay away from white bread,white rice,white potatos all can raise your bs. About your brother and sister if they had diabetes it never goes away. You can control it but there is no cure. And if the diabetes educator never called then you should call them our see another one. you need to do this.

SaraF 2010-06-15 06:26:43 -0500 Report

I called my drs office yesterday and asked what my bs is and the nurse said it is 233. My triglycerol is 455 so I definitely need to get those numbers down. I bought a recipe book for diabetes so that I can try to eat foods that are good for me. Also I know that I need to lose weight. The nurse is calling in a perscription for a meter, lancets, and test strips for me. I will get them tomorrow. Will keep everyone informed of how I am doing. Thanks for the tips.

SaraF 2010-06-22 06:18:39 -0500 Report

Hi. Just wanted to update you on how I am doing. Got my meter and started testing. Its weird, but last night before bed my bs was 246 and I didn't even have a snack! Tis morning, when I got up it was 132. Diabetic educator in my area is not returning my call. Will keep trying. I am also stressed because Social Security is trying to take my SSI away. Will try to get this taken care of so that I can relax. I will also try to stay away from all white products and eat in portion sizes. This should be easy because I don't have any appetite and eat small amounts anyway. The hardest part for me is to learn to eat breakfast and to exercise. I am in constant pain so it is hard to get motivated to exercise. But I will try.

VeronnyBunny 2010-06-14 01:39:50 -0500 Report

Hello!!! I actually have been pre diabetic for a long time and 2 days ago I was diagnosed with type 2 like you. I am scared also and am so nervous about turning into type 1. The thought of shots everyday and diabetic strokes etc is hard to think about. But, I have decided to stay happy and positive and to take care of myself the best I can. My Dr. said that the weight watchers diet is great for losing weight and staying on track. I srated it yesterday since I was just diagnosed and it is great because I can eat a good amount of food and also have some of the things I love but just in moderation. For example I had a lean cuisine for dinner with a cup of carrots. My lean cuisine was yummy and only 5 points the carrots were 0. I am allowed 28 a day:) Yesterday I had a good sized taco, rice and beans from my favorite restaraunt and the pints were around 16, so that meant I needed to pick things of lesser value for the rest of the day. The important thing is to drink a lot of water even if you have say crystal light and excercise. Also, cut out lots of carbs, cake stuff like that. Have diabetic/ no sugar stuff thats very good:) Good luck to you and know your not alone:)

Lakeland 2010-06-13 09:20:21 -0500 Report

(Yes you can have pizza. ) The doctor scared me too, My eyes went blurry & my sugar was 550, he wanted me in the hospital that day but I had company coming & couldn't go. His advice was watch what I eat & take a pill. then the doctor told me diabetic classes started in 3 weeks. I remember waking up & thinking I lived through the night. then the doctor told me diabetic classes started in 3 weeks. the doctor didn't even prescribe a meter because I was to get one when the class began, So I had mixed feelings about how serious was this, bad enough for him to suggest the hospital but not bad enough to get me a meter to test.

Anyway, Choose wisely the carbs, do best to get "whole grain" But meat/ protein is fine so eat real meat/eggs, chicken, fish especially now it's great to grill, lots of farms around here so enjoy the veggies. Many sauces are high carb so watch them. I do use sugar substitue to add sweeteners to sauces.

Try whole grain breads I like the arnolds sandwich thins, the high fiber content makes the body take much longer to turn the carbs into sugar.

As for pizza. I layed off of that till my numbers were much closer to normal but Now, I have pizza, I just make sure that there is meat on it & I do the thin crust to help the carbs stay lower.

the sandwich thins, can be used to make your own personal pizza. Many sauces contain sugar

I also like making quesadillas recipes with whole grain load up the veggies, cheese.

The doctors warned me about my opinion they tell me with my eggs I need to watch cholesterol, but I told him one thing at a time, I want to be able to eat & when I get less scared then I'll address the next issue.

Also try to walk, my numbers really dropped after a 30 minute to 1 hour walk.

Good luck,

FLDawn 2010-06-12 17:11:39 -0500 Report

Hi There: I was diagnosed last July and will tell you that you came to the right place. The people here are warm and friendly and knowledgeable. I too was not given good info by my doctor and sent on my way with meds and not much else. First I called the American Diabetes Association who sent me some awesome booklets and then luckily I found this site. The people here got me through my first low blood sugar scare which is even scarier than knowing you are diabetic. Look at it this way, unless you are extremely diabetic…you have survived this long and now are getting help. Low blood sugar can be dangerous so you need to learn about it if on meds because until you regulate you could easily have it happen. If you feel out of it, sweating when you know you are in a very cold a/c place, feel shaky etc. and especially if you know you have not eaten right…low blood sugar is easy to fix. Four oz of real soda, a couple of pieces of real, hard candy, 4 oz of orange juice or my friend I now carry which are the tablets that are cheap and go in my purse. DO NOT BE SCARED…stick here with everyone and you will learn. I was terrified and this is the place that got me through it. As far as diet…I don't know anything about what they did to you but it is not that hard to do right for yourself. Maybe later you can have that pizza but right now do the basics OK? For me it was having a couple of egg beaters in the a.m. with a slice of multi-grain toast for starters. at night my meals are things like stir fried chicken tenderloins with veggies and a small side of DreamFields past which is low in carbs. Don't forget snacks. There is a recipe section here that is great BUT read the recipe because not all are diabetic friendly as you may need. You don't have to starve or give up good taste because you have diabetes. I refuse to do that LOL…I make my own recipes with GOOD things. PS avoid fake sugars and other things with artificial ingredients. Well, I hogged enough space here but I want to start you off with things I wish I had known last July before I found these great people. Drop a line and friend me if you want to OK? DO NOT BE AFRAID but do the right things. No fritos either. CARBS are as bad as sugar unless they are complex ones. I wish Cheetos and Fritos counted but they don't. There are subs for them though so hang in there and start off slow. Good Luck

HarmonyStarr 2010-06-11 19:09:46 -0500 Report

I, too, am newly diagnosed, having found out I am diabetic only a few hours before I went in for surgery. It is a shock to the system and scary. But, the best thing you can do is to educate yourself as much as you can.

I agree with others who said find a new doctor. Anyone who is not going to explain things to you from the beginning is not the person you want to continue with for treatment.

My suggestion, read as much as you can. I was fortunate in that I have family members who are diabetic, so I was already armed with some understanding of things even as they were informing me. I'm still reading and educating myself, reading everything I can get my eyes and hands on.

Once you have your meter, it will be easier to measure what kinds of foods affect your BG levels. Another thing you can do is to start exercising, if you're not already. Exercise helps to bring your levels down as well.

And if you need a shoulder to lean on as you're learning, feel free to contact me. We can learn together!


Antique-Dave 2010-06-10 09:31:43 -0500 Report

I don't put stock into these quackery pre mix good for what ails you products. The 3 supplements that were mentioned are ones that I include in my daily supplements but I sure don't spend 70.00 a month on it. I would seriously question where this docs head is at.

I had some fear at first too about food, but it didn't last long thankfully. I tested a lot to begin with but once I became comfortable with it and got a handle on the types of foods I do well with I test a whole lot less.

test two hours after eating, you should be below 140, if not then you need to make adjustments, if I have pizza I try to avoid the crust and have a salad with some flaxseed oil splashed on with the italian dressing.

You have to test though to know how its going to affect you, some people can't handle bread products and it keeps their BGL elevated for days.

Glamour 2010-06-10 00:48:59 -0500 Report

Just a thought for Apop, welcome brother, I was there 3 years ago, is that I like my One Touch Mini, it's hip and purple, but the test strips are absurdly expensive. Good to know these things before you get attached to any one meter or other. That's why they send you a free meter, lol. Remind anyone of anything?…

Apoptygma 2010-06-10 08:57:21 -0500 Report

I saw some of the prices Glam and it made me sick knowing how many people probably struggle to get them despite needing them to live! Crazy! 323 dollars for the bigger boxes! As long as my meter can test anywhere other then fingertips,that's who I'm goin with. :x My fingers are badly sensetive from burns on my hands,so even getting it tested at the doctors office,I felt it for a good 35 minutes…Then again the nurse was thorough with her "stabbing motion" My poor finger felt like the last -pig-in-a-blanket- on a buffet. Heheh.

valeriebst 2010-06-08 23:20:05 -0500 Report

Here's some info on the product that you were questioning. It appears to be like a lot of the drinks that are suppose to help assist in keeping blood sugars at a good level. But don't believe it's a total meal replacement. A large tub that does a WHOLE LOT is on line for about $53.

Glycemic Foundation

Available in Chocolate and Vanilla Smoothie Blast.

Glycemic Foundation is an easy to mix drink with a delightful chocolate or vanilla flavor that helps the body maintain healthy blood sugar levels.

Glycemic Foundation contains a unique blend of ingredients including flaxseed flour, guar gum and Oryzatein, a healthy brown rice protein that help support healthy blood sugar levels. Glycemic Foundation is an easy to mix drink with a delightful chocolate flavor that helps the body maintain healthy blood sugar levels.

Why These Natural Ingredients?

Lipoic Acid

Lipoic acid is one of the most beneficial nutrients for those seeking to achieve optimal range blood sugars. Lipoic Acid has antioxidant activity that maintains microcirculation and has been used successfully for over 30 years in Germany.

Vanadyl Sulfate

Functioning much like chromium, research has revealed that vanadyl sulfate acts to help cells activate transport proteins for glucose uptake. Scientific quantities of vanadyl sulfate have shown significant benefits for individuals in controlled studies. In some people, these benefits were sustained for as long as 2 weeks after discontinuation of vanadyl sulfate.


Chromium facilitates the uptake of glucose into cells, working naturally with the body’s own insulin. Most multivitamins provide 200 mcg of chromium, but additional chromium may be needed for those wanting to maintain healthy blood sugar levels.

Apoptygma 2010-06-09 12:59:52 -0500 Report

Wow. I tried looking it up and I got mostly well written adds for it,this atleast explains more about it in detail. Kinda wondering why I'd be asked to replace a meal with it if it's made just as a supplement to compliment it. Thanks Valerie!

ccritch 2010-06-08 15:54:56 -0500 Report

Welcome to DC, I believe we have all been there one time or another. I agree with Greg about the drink, I would not buy it!

There is hope so don't give up. You should be careful what you eat. Unsweet tea, coffee w/o sugar are 0 carbs, Wheat pasta is good. Milk will raise sugars, 1 slice of pizza is 29 carb which turn into sugar and can raise your sugar, I suggest if you eat pizza eat a green salad first it will slow the process of the all the carbs to absorb. Until you are put on the right meds. Glucerna is a good source to help maintain low blood sugar. I agree with petals boot the doc and see your Primary Care if you have one she or he can refer you to a board certified Endocrinologist or Primary Doctor who is educated in taking care of Diabetics. I would get a meter go on line and one touch, bayer, will send you a meter for free with a 10 day supply of lancets and strips. Good for the first few days until you get with a new doctor. Please take care of what you eat and not be afraid to eat either, you can eat and if you eat too much walk it off but don't over exert yourself.

Take care of yourself.

Best Wishes and God Bless! :D

gregsteele 2010-06-08 10:40:21 -0500 Report

Welcome yo DC as youve seen from the replies youve gotten the people here are very helpful and honestly care I personally think that drink is a crock probably from a vendor the dr. has deal with as for the dr.he sounds like a jerk youre going to need adr you can trust and feel comfortable with so take petals advice and give him the boot get the meter and test, test test . keep in touch as we will all be thinking of you and wondering how things are going GOOD LUCK love to all GREG

Emma2412 2010-06-08 10:07:31 -0500 Report

Apop, I had another idea. You know, lots of drug companies and also companies that produce products such as this drink have deals with doctors if they promote their drugs or products. So, do your own due diligence and investigate it before you buy it. Know what it's supposed to do for you and then decide for yourself if you want to try it out.

GabbyPA 2010-06-08 09:53:36 -0500 Report

Hey Apoptygma, Glad to have you her with us. We are all in the same boat so you are in a safe place here.

I have never heard of that drink either, but I don't put stock in too much that is "diabetic" labeled. I stick to unlabeled foods as much as possible, meaning whole natural foods are going to be best. Vegetables are your best friends and help keep levels low and tummies full.

Everyone had given you great advice here. We have a great group with good hearts. I'm glad they were able to put your mind at ease.

Once you have your meter I would also recommend starting a food log. Just write down what you are eating and how much. Be always honest, so you can tell what your body is doing when you test. You will begin to find that certain foods or combinations of foods will affect you in different ways.

Hang in there. It is totally normal to panic when we first hear the diagnosis, specially if we have no clue that it was the problem. Many doctors seem to think we are too stupid to really be proactive in our treatment, so if this doctor doesn't start helping you find ways to be involved, then I would find another one. It is going to be a life long relationship. It needs to start on a good path.

Emma2412 2010-06-08 09:42:32 -0500 Report

Actually, Apop, I forgot to mention doctors. If you don't like your doctor, go to somebody else.
My original doctor acted like it was my fault I had diabetes, so I got rid of him immediately. Who needs to listen to that? Certainly not us diabetics. Diabetes is not our fault. Don't ever let anybody tell you that, especially doctors who should know better.
If you have insurance and you can pick whoever you want, ask around for recommendations. I always opt for the doctors who take time to listen to me and sit down or at least face me and talk to me. I hate doctors who don't look at me and stand at the counter with their backs to me. That's a doctor that will get the boot from me.
If you're in Northern NJ, I can recommend a wonderful doctor, who I can't even go to anymore because he's not on my insurance list and I just can't afford to spend thousands and thousands every year. But he's the kind of doctor who will spend an hour with you if you have things to discuss or are worried about. He doesn't care how long he's with you as long as you're happy when you leave there.
So, after going to a few other doctors, I finally found a good doctor on my insurance list who actually sits down face-to-face with me and goes over a whole list of stuff every visit.
She also knows I'm trying to get off my diabetes medicine. I hate medicine of all kinds. Have you ever read the side effects of medicines? And after first having a problem with that and really getting upset with me and acting like I didn't want to take care of myself, she finally got the point and is now helping to the extent that I even think she's now doing her own research into alternative cures. Progress! Isn't it wonderful?
I also have high LDL cholesterol and I told my doctor I will not ever take a statin drug and told her I would do some research into something natural that might work for me. I found one which she said would not work for me, but did recommend Flushless Niacin. She just warned me that if I do get hot flashes (which I'm prone to) from the niacin, I'm to take a low-dose aspirin one hour before taking the niacin.
Don't let doctors push you around.
Do you have insurance? Maybe you can get your meter and strips for less. Otherwise, follow Diane'e advice. You can also look online for different types of meters. I use Accu-Chek Aviva and am contented with the features. But you might want other features, so don't be afraid to look around for the best one for you. You don't need a meter today. Look at all that are out there and see which one is going to work for you.

petals 2010-06-08 00:34:08 -0500 Report

Hi and welcome to DC. I don't think that two pieces of pizza will hurt you , you have got to eat. Get a meter and start testing and kick your doctor in the gonads!! This book has helped me alot it's called The Diabetes Food & Nutrition Bible A complete guide to planning, shopping , cooking and eating. I got mine on Amazon .com for $5.00 and that included shipping and handling. Also the calorie king book is great. Hang in there things will get better. Did the doctor put you on a diet? I am here when ever you need me.

SkipT 2010-06-07 22:15:29 -0500 Report

Go over to the website:

You will find a whole lot of information that will get you pointed in the right direction.

Good Luck,

And send me a friend request if you want any further information.

Harlen 2010-06-07 21:46:04 -0500 Report

Hello and welcome
Benn there done that lol
First what was your A1c?
there are a lot of food you can have but fritos are not one of them lol I wish thy where lol
this site will help you a lot
You may like this one too
Its a bit teck and dry but it helped me a lot
got to have a meter and you mite like to get a book on carb counting.
Best wishes

Apoptygma 2010-06-07 21:16:14 -0500 Report

Wow,you guys are Nice to know one night of pizza isn't a death sentance. I have massive anxiety as it is,so every little thing gets my brain going. I'm going to let myself relax tonight and take the meter advice and get one tomorrow afternoon. I'm gonna call the doctor back and discuss the drink stuff I was given,and Emma—Going to put that plate method to work starting tomorrow. You guys are amazing,thanks so much,it's been a great help!!!!!

RAYT721 2010-06-07 21:35:13 -0500 Report

I think the difference between us and the doctor is that we have diabetes and he/she probably doesn't. I did look up (google) the ortho product and find it's a supplement brand. It sounds like the doctor is recommending it as a meal replacement which is why the disclaimer "and nothing else" came into the picture. How I hope the product works for you but to proclaim it as some magical formula just doesn't sound fair to you. It also doesn't sound right for a doctor to scare you without informing you. For now realize that you have to eat .. carbs, protein, fat, calories, nutrients, etc. It's especially important to eat breakfast to jump start your metabolism. I can't tell you what you should do or what others do. I can only say what I do and that's to eat less food more often… and for me, it works! Do not starve yourself and make sure to educate yourself as much as you can. Let your fingers do the clicking. The meter is going to help you check yourself and your progress in between the lab tests to learn what works and what doesn't. I am sure you are totally overwhelmed, afraid, nervous, stressed out, and just about every emotion you can think of… and some that you can't. We've all gone through it. I thought that I was the only diabetic on the planet until I found the support and friendships here. Your health is a journey and at times it's a roller coaster while other times it's a merry go round. Let me know if I can help in any way. For now it's baby steps. Don't stop eating and don't stop living. This is the beginning, not the end of your life!!!

Emma2412 2010-06-08 09:45:33 -0500 Report

Apop, remember, don't let life get to you, especially diabetes. Yes, it's something you'll have for the rest of your life, but believe me we can control it. It just takes some time to learn about the disease and the different things that will work for you and not work for you. Keep on keeping on, my friend.

ccritch 2010-06-09 15:12:24 -0500 Report


Instead of buying a meter contact One Touch they will send you one for free with 10 day supply of strips and lancets.

Good Luck and I am glad that you joined Diabetic Connect we can help each other from our symptoms to experiences and just chat to see how you are. I am a stresser big time so I can't say don't stress cause I am always stressin. LOL

God Bless and take care of yourself.

Diane987 2010-06-07 20:55:33 -0500 Report

Hi Apoptygma,

I can understand your frustration and confusion.
1. You need a meter. If you live near a Walmart with a pharmacy you can pick one up there. They have one made by ReliOn that works well and is inexpensive. The strips for it are also inexpensive. The meter, 50 strips and lancets. will cost you less than $50 total. Other major name brand companies will give you a meter but their strips are much more expensive. You have to use the strips that are designed to go with individual meters. If you have insurance its not that bad, but if you don't, this is an expensive disease.

2. The pizza. If your blood sugar was that high I would think your doctor would have sent you to a hospital. So you are probably safe eating the pizza tonight. Two slices would be the maximum if I were in your position though.

3. The stuff your doctor gave you. It appears to be a basic nutritional supplement designed for glucose control. Its not the best thing on the market but it won't hurt you. He certainly should have told you something about it though.

alanbossman 2010-06-07 20:18:47 -0500 Report

Hi and welcome to DC. Some doctors are bad some are good. But i most are just plain stupid. Anyway all diabetics are diffrent when it comes to food some can eat more carbs per meal than others can but for now you can eat turkey,chicken and fish. you can eat a hambuger but white bread will raise your BS. Some can eat 100% whole wheat bread and 100% whole grain bread. For most bread is bad for my BS. for me i can only eat i slice of pizza, the white flour they use for the pizza dough just raises my BS very fast.
hope this helps some.

RAYT721 2010-06-07 20:41:59 -0500 Report

My two cents… I have recently found Pepperidge Farm Deli Flats bread and it doesn't affect me. I actually use the halves for my own pizzas (let me recommend using a fork) so that I can control the lower fat cheese, veggies, whatever toppings I want. I never thought the day would come when I'd be reviewing healthy food options. It wasn't that long ago where a nighttime snack for me was either a six pack of beer or a six pack of ice cream sandwiches… or both!

Emma2412 2010-06-08 09:57:26 -0500 Report

Yes, those were indeed the days, Ray. But, you know, I think diabetic diets are some of the most healthy in the world. I know I feel immensely better since I've been on mine, and to heck with the 6-pack.
BY THE WAY, does the PF Deli Flats bread have gluten in it?

RAYT721 2010-06-08 16:47:25 -0500 Report

No … one of the ingredients is "wheat gluten" on the label. I know they have 3 varieties. The one I have is the 7 Grain variety.

Emma2412 2010-06-07 20:12:33 -0500 Report

Hi, Apop
Welcome to D.C. Glad to meet you. You'll love it here, believe me. It's a great place.
Like Ray says, take a deep breath, and try not to panic. You're not going to die — someday, yes, but not now.
You've also got to eat. It's not good for you not to eat a balanced diet. Your "meal" of carrots, fritos and wheat bread did absolutely nothing as far as providing you with the things your body needs: vitamins, minerals and proteins.
I strongly suggest that until you get some instruction that you try a plan which I learned from the nutrition specialist at my diabetes class called the "plate method."
Fill 1/2 of your plate with veggies; 1/4 of your plate with lean protein (fish, meat, poultry); and 1/4 of your plate with starch (potato, rice, pasta, or beans). Learn about portion sizes and stick to them.
Start reading labels on food containers, boxes, bags. The plate method is a healthy way to eat. As you go along, you will learn what's healthy and what's not healthy for you. And once you start taking your blood glucose readings in the way that's prescribed by your doctor, you'll begin to understand which foods react negatively on you and which don't. This takes time.
I suggest you ask your doctor to write you a prescription so you can either go to a diabetes class or go to a diabetes educator. You've got a lot to learn and you need face-to-face, one-on-one instruction so you know how to take care of yourself, take your blood glucose readings, and also work out a personalized diet plan.
Also, you'll learn that not all diet plans work for every person in the same way. Each one of is different. Don't let that upset you. That's normal. Food is a learning curve. For instance, your "meal" of carrots, fritos and wheat bread would derail me.
Be patient with yourself. Learning about diabetes and how to take care of yourself is a lifelong experience.
Incidentally, I would recommend a book by Gretchen Becker called, "The First Year, Type 2 Diabetes". Gretchen is a diabetic and her book told me loads of stuff that I needed to know. Plus, it's written in plain English, thank God. By the way, she also has a website.
Stop back regularly at D.C. and let us know how you're doing. OK? We'll all be thinking of you, believe me.

RAYT721 2010-06-07 20:43:41 -0500 Report

That's really good advice, Emma. I'm gonna check out the book (literally if it's at the library)

Emma2412 2010-06-08 09:25:10 -0500 Report

Hi, Ray
You know, I never looked for it at the library, but I'm sure it must be. She's written other books, too.

RAYT721 2010-06-08 16:43:55 -0500 Report

Actually I did find it in my library collection and I have it on order from them. That's how I rate books and cookbooks, etc. If I am impressed then I will go out searching high and low for cheap copies. I'm one of those fat bald middle aged frugal coupon toting guys you don't want to stand behind in check out lines. :)

RAYT721 2010-06-09 18:00:57 -0500 Report

The library notified me that book is ready for pickup. I am looking forward to getting it tomorrow pm after work. Thanks for the referral. I am looking forward to reading it. Any time you have recommended readings or products or whatever, hook me up! I will do the same.

RAYT721 2010-06-19 20:13:15 -0500 Report

I am very impressed by Gretchen's book, Emma and I really appreciate the referral. I like the simple humor and the plain English writing style. I will be looking for other books she's written. Thanks for the recommendation!!!

RAYT721 2010-06-10 21:08:59 -0500 Report

Emma… thanks for the recommendation of the book, "The First Year, Type 2 Diabetes." I picked it up from the library today and already on page 30 or so. I am really impressed. Thank you!!!

ccritch 2010-06-09 15:15:55 -0500 Report

Good Advice Emma,

You should also try finding out if a support group in your local hospital is about to begine or will be beginning, they help with lots of information, counting carbs etc… Don't forget Greens are Great to slow the process of sugar into your blood stream.

Take care

Apoptygma 2010-06-07 19:19:37 -0500 Report

Thanks so much you guys. They didn't give me a meter at all. I have no idea why. The drink I was asked to buy was "Ortho Molecular Products: Glycemic Foundation" in chocolate. I'm scared to use it since I wasn't told much other then "Oh you'll replace dinner at night with a scoop of this in almond milk and you'll start feeling a difference!" But nothing else!

Thomas508 2010-06-07 19:42:54 -0500 Report

I don't know your relationship with this Dr. but you might want to check with someone else. I would call for sure and see if they would give you a meter or find a different Dr. who will. Without a meter you are flying blind! Here are a couple links from a guy in Australia who has been a big help to me this one is on getting started: and here is one about what to eat until you get a meter: Look around his blog while you are on it, there is a lot of good info there. You should be able to find someone to give you a meter, the strips are where they make their money anyway.

RAYT721 2010-06-07 19:59:09 -0500 Report

I understand that the doctors can't give meters and test strips to every patient that is diagnosed but there are alot of pharmacies that offer free meters after rebate or with purchase of test strips. What amazes me is that the doctors don't recommend them. I went out and bought a meter and strips right after my diagnosis but it wasn't even suggested by the doctor. I dunno about the drink that your doctor is promoting. That just sounds a little "odd." Has he invited you to his house for an Amway presentation??? You should probably do some googling on that product, especially since none of us have heard of it. I'm not saying that I know everything about being diabetic but if this is a miracle cure that will have you feeling a difference in no time, I would think we'd be seeing it on tv especially if you have an erection lasting more than 4 hours.

Emma2412 2010-06-08 10:04:02 -0500 Report

Hey, Ray. I'm an Amway rep. LOL We're not snake charmers, believe me. Unfortunately, in the '50's the company had a bad rep for some reason, but it's a company that's in 80 countries now. The trouble is that if a person doesn't get anywhere with it overnight, they get angry and start blaming Amway. Anyway, I'm going to investigate the drink now. I never heard of it either.

RAYT721 2010-06-08 16:52:04 -0500 Report

No offense Emma. I actually love Amway and their products. It just sounded like the doctor has a vested interest in the product was all I was implying. I've never had a doctor that recommended an over the counter supplement by brand name like that.

Emma2412 2010-06-19 09:49:40 -0500 Report

Hey, it's OK. LOL I've heard it all and worse before about Amway, but you'd be surprised how hardly any of it is actually true.
Amway is just like everything else. You have to work at it. In the '50's and '60's there were some people who got into Amway with the mistaken idea that they were going to be rich "tomorrow." Of course, it doesn't work like that. It's hard work, but when it finally comes together for you, life can be beautiful.
Amway has very, very strict guidelines now as to what representatives can say about the business when they're showing the business and if that rep doesn't follow those rules, his distributorship is taken away from him.
Now, about that drink. I think you're right. The doctor might very well have a nice cushy deal with that drink company. I looked up the drink but I wasn't really impressed either way. But I know one thing. I couldn't pay that high price for it. I think anything that's recommended by a doctor should come with a prescription so that we can get it through the insurance. Times are hard enough for us.

Emma2412 2010-06-08 10:01:22 -0500 Report

Doctors don't give out meters. But what is mysterious is that they don't even talk to you about getting one. Personally, I think it's criminal negligence on their part.

ccritch 2010-06-09 15:18:56 -0500 Report

Most endocrinologists will give you a meter that new to the market so you can test drive it. One Touch will send you a free meter either go on line or call them.

I love Diabetic Connect! awesome conversations and everyone giving such great information, experiences, suggestions and comments!

Love you guys!

RAYT721 2010-06-19 20:20:02 -0500 Report

Bingo! Emma, that's exactly my view on the subject. When I got off the phone with the doctor I did not know what to do. I had enough sense to get a meter (it wasn't even brought up) and to get onto google to find support groups, which is how I found this one. In my opinion, telling a patient that he/she is diabetic and that's the end of story is like diagnosing cancer and saying, "so you should probably draft a will." There are lots of resources for help and support but it's up to us to find them on our own. That's an injustice. While I understand there's only so much a doctor can do or say at least steer a patient to some resources. I felt alone, afraid, ashamed and everything else that the new members face. I had questions but didn't know where to get answers… til I found this place and wonderful co-members like you!

ccritch 2010-06-09 15:27:46 -0500 Report

Gosh that is aweful! No matter Make a list to take to your next doctor with questions you want answered and don't leave until you have the answers you expect to receive. it is your right as a patient. Get a referral to see a doctor who specializes or knows enough about Diabetes. You deserve the proper care and you need to get that care.

Remember you got friends here at DC! Take Care

RAYT721 2010-06-07 18:55:52 -0500 Report

I am starting to think our doctors are all clinically insane. I thought my diagnosis was a little "odd" … lose weight, exercise, no more sugar and I'll see you in 3 months was pretty much what I heard. I've read other similar stories from other newly diagnosed members. Yours is the first to prescribe a $70 drink. The screwy thing is that very few (including me) were told to get a meter or how to use it, read it, and understand it. It was a few nights after my diagnosis that I was on google looking for support groups and found this place. Thank GOD I found this place!!!

I don't know what the heck this drink is that you're prescribed … hope you get a buzz of it if nothing else. :)

I would think that until someone can explain what they want you to drink and why, you may wish to just take baby steps to find out what foods work and don't work for you. You've got to eat. Not eating is going to screw up your system more than any food I can think of. You may want to cut back on carbs (and remember that sugar is a carb just like starch is a carb), exercise, start testing yourself to see what agrees and disagrees with you, drink lots of water, exercise a little more, and start to look into the nutritional content of foods you like. The key to everything is moderation. You may not want to eat a cheesecake for breakfast but what about low fat cheesecake yogurt? You can have pizza but it doesn't have to come from Dominos.

Take your time and take deep breaths. There are no cures for diabetes so it's going to be a lifestyle change that will turn your bad habits to good habits. Knowledge is power.

I wish our doctors wouldn't scare the hell out of us and then leave us on our own to figure it all out. We're here for you and we understand the change and challenge ahead of you.

If I can help in any way, drop me a line.

Thomas508 2010-06-07 18:22:40 -0500 Report

I doubt 2 slices of pizza will kill you! Did they give you a meter? Everyone will react different to foods but for most all of us carbs will cause a big spike. The Fritos and the wheat bread would spike me. I eat pizza but limit myself to only 1 or 2 crusts, I will take the toppings off of another one and add it to a slice to make it fill me more. The reason I ask about the meter is you can test before a meal and then again 2 hours after to see what that meal did to your blood sugar. If it caused a spike you know you shouldn't eat that anymore. If you didn't you know that's safe. If your numbers are high before eating lay off the carbs, they turn to sugar quickly inside of you. If you have no meter and no idea what your numbers are right now then lay off the carbs and eat some protein or salad. You could eat a hamburger patty or most any meat and although it would be high in fat it would not hurt your blood sugar, healthier would be a salad etc… I hope this helps but really I don't have enough info about you like where are your numbers at now etc…

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