Has anyone on here cured their type 1

Not1
By Not1 Latest Reply 2010-05-21 16:45:47 -0500
Started 2010-05-20 10:38:09 -0500

The pancreas is not that complicated an organ, and to look at most type 1 diabetics, we are skin and muscle. So how could our pancreas be anything other than fit and lean. I have never seen a normal persons pancreas vs. a type 1 diabetics. But I do want to see the difference. As Dr. perform brain surgery and heart transplants we continue to get the shaft and that is b*ll s**t.


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kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-05-20 11:36:18 -0500 Report

The pancreas is a very complicated organ, one of the more complicated ones. It has many different components that produce many different hormones at different times and in variable amounts. A type 1's pancreas and a non-diabetics pancreas will look the same, type 2s as well.

With type 1, an autoimmune disease kills the insulin producing cells in the pancreas. You can have pancreas transplants and they are experimenting with stem cells and both do work and patients do not have to take insulin. However, you need to take a cocktail of anti-rejection drugs and because you still have the underlying autoimmune disease the insulin producing cells will be killed off again. Some people can make it a few years without insulin but most are back on it quite soon after the procedures.

If you want to know more about the pancreas do some web searches for islets of langerhans and beta cells.

monkeymama
monkeymama 2010-05-20 11:33:00 -0500 Report

Hello there! I can try to explain a little to you. We would all like to think that our pancreas is that simple of a organ. Yet, there is a lot going on in our pancreas. Our pancreas is responsible for secreting digestive enzymes, glucagon hormones, and insulin. Our pancreas assists the liver. Sometimes a person can be as healthy as ever and still develop diabetes. Genetics can also play a role in this. As our genetics is what makes our blueprinting of who we are. Our high blood sugars are our visual. (Sorry I am so technical, I am a nursing student). One does not have to have a look of a medical problem to have a problem there. It is BS that diabetes is the way it is. I will agree with you. I wish there was a cure for all of us here. When there are people talking about a cure. They are full of themselves. When one thinks they are cured; they're not. They are in tight control of their diabetes. I hope this kind of helps and I can only wish the very best for all of us.

Not1
Not1 2010-05-20 15:09:09 -0500 Report

Do you know that every living species on the planet shares the same skin make-up, and did you know that my pancreas still produces digestive enzymes, and glucagon hormones. The similarity of every species on the planet is the reason the first insulin was from a dog, then pig and so on. And the talk of medical advances is rediculous, the mobile I.V. was invented in the 60's or the insulin pump. The first pancreas transplant 1966 and she would have lived with regular doses of vitamin E. Insulin bottled 1922.
Yes, you can live a full life without a pancreas. However, the moment you lose it, you will become an immediate Type 1 diabetic and loose the ability to digest food. The pancreas creates insulin and digestive enzymes. However, you must take daily injections of insulin and pills that contain digestive enzymes for the rest of your life. A minor inconvenience at best. Take mine fix it, get it back to me when your done. It is not even the top 5 most important vital organs. The five vital organs are the:

1. Brain
2. Heart
3. Lungs
4. Kidneys
5. Liver
Metabolically the most active organ the liver
The problem is med. is still trying to learn what they new in 1922. There's no money in the cure.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-05-20 15:24:39 -0500 Report

Why is there no money in a cure? It's not like somebody comes up with a cure and everyone diabetic will be magically cured and no more people will become diabetic. A cure would make the company who comes out with more money than any of their drugs have made up to that point combined.

Not1
Not1 2010-05-20 16:40:37 -0500 Report

Did you fail math, come on be honest. The cure would make more money than the medicine, diet plan and sugar free foods, diabetic supplies, Dr. visits, HMMM that makes no intelligent sense how the biggest money maker in medicine, would be able to have the cure make more money then the Diabetes Industry LOL. Like the insulin pump, that's why less than 25 percent of the world's diabetics have a pump and the rest don't. Make's lots of money like flu shots lol, oh no, not the flu lol. Are you even serious, I think you have a low blood sugar, that would explain your picture you look a bit green, but if that's all you see is green, are you a medical rep. or supplier? Do the math

John Crowley
John CrowleyCA 2010-05-20 17:51:37 -0500 Report

Step back for a second. Imagine if the cure turns out to be a vaccine (which for type 1 especially it most likely will be). Do you have any idea the number of doses of the MMR vaccine or the polio vaccine that have been made and sold in the world? Does kdrobert's math make more sense now? Someday it could be as common for every man, woman, and child in the developed world to get vaccinated for diabetes as it is to get the measles shot today.

I won't deny that there are some big companies with big incentives to keep making the medications/treatments for diabetes and not look very hard for a cure. But without those companies, my son would be dead. Having a cure in the future wouldn't matter very much for my dead son.

So you can't bite the hand that keeps you alive while others (particularly the university medical schools) need time to search for a cure. They are two sides of the same coin. You need the treatments to deal with your symptoms today so that you can be around when the cure is found.

Anyway, that's just my two cents.

Not1
Not1 2010-05-20 20:13:11 -0500 Report

I guaranty I have more friends in medicine then yourself and the one thing none of their children have had is vaccination shots of any kind, as injections of a virus as an infant are the reason that 98% of the world is on one medication or another, break down their system at birth. Do you even know what a vaccine is? A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism, or is what is found to cause the disease. Your 2 cents should know what a vaccine is and the vaccines that are given are not needed and forced on the public, but only the public that goes to public school. No vaccines for private school, I wonder what do you know, I take insulin it was first bottled in 1922, and dog insulin was no less compatible then the human insulin. Insulin allergies have increased greatly since they made pig insulin illegal and have forced us all to take the new crap.

valeriebst
valeriebst 2010-05-21 11:13:06 -0500 Report

This whold discussion brought me great sadness. You are so negative when it comes to this topic. This is what holds back a lot of people with this disease. Life gives us things to deal with and things to make choices over. It is not perfect. It is not the end of the world. It just makes your world a bit different. Instead of fighting what you have and working with what you've got you beat everything about this down and make it harder for those struggling with this disease to undertand it. Kudo's to those that answered with knowledge, great fortitude, positive outlook and the right to their opinion, which you also have. I feel for you if this is how you look at other things as it seems it would not be much of a happy life. Good luck to you and wishing you well.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-05-20 19:36:37 -0500 Report

Take a look at the number of diagnosed diabetics in the world, it's about 200 million. Say a cure costs on average $1000, a tiny amount in the grand scheme of things. $200 billion market right away. Then you have the undiagnosed and close to being diagnosed (people with pre-diabetes, impaired glucose tolerance, etc) which is estimated to be double that of the diagnosed. Another $400 billion dollar market. Then you have the world population growth which is roughly 75 million a year right now but will increase slightly and taking a rough average, 10-15% of those will develop diabetes. Another $7.5-11.25 billion per year. Take a 10 year patent and no competition, that's over a trillion dollars in 10 years. Name one drug that has come close to that. But like John says, if it becomes as common as regular immunizations, it will be cheaper but many more people will be getting them. It won't work out quite like that but there is plenty of money to be made in a cure and plenty of money to be made in other conditions that are on the back burner. Then you have all the other political stuff. Most of the world has some sort of universal, government run healthcare system. They are all looking to minimize cost. Do you think they want to be paying for treatment when a cure could save them so much money? Losing money or governments are not stopping a cure, complexity of the disease and medical technology is.

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