I Friggin Hate Diabetes!!!!!

By nakedbaboon Latest Reply 2010-06-10 10:14:32 -0500
Started 2010-05-06 22:32:16 -0500

It just seems to get worse!!! I have been carb counting for a few weeks now and now I am taking the correct amount of Insulin and my BG is still going way high!!!! This evening I ate 135 carbs yeah I know that is alot but I too 9 units of Insulin and still am at 234 4 hrs. later!!!!!!!!

I was at 109 before hand and have a carb ratio of 15.

86 replies

wilsn 2010-06-10 10:14:32 -0500 Report

I count carbs and use insulin pump and usually if I keep my routine the same each day I do good. However, I have noticed stress and not enough sleep causes me to have hight and/or lows

pablito805 2010-06-08 11:28:01 -0500 Report

I was doing really good for a long time then they found protein in my urine and i was put on Prednisone and my numbers jumped from between 90 to 120 all the way up to 250 to 350 and taking Novilin R almost 40 to 50 units and still only coming down to about 200 after 4 hours. I started seeing a workout trainer once a week and eating better but still no real results as of yet. So yes I also friggin hate Diabetes.

MaddysMom 2010-05-20 11:44:52 -0500 Report

Stop counting carbs and create a healthy scheduled diet for yourself. If you go to my blog I have info on my daughters diet and treatment she almost off of her insulin completely…in this pdf I wrote is what I believe is the cause of Type 1 and that is what we need to focus on treating to heal the body and let the pancreas work again. www.maddyshope.blogspot.com

ginarb37 2010-05-20 01:23:55 -0500 Report

Hello Nakkid…
I can understand relate. But know that it will get better. I so believe that. Im about to start carb counting to be put on the pump next month. Its hard to deal with but I have learned over the past few months that I have to get off my bum and do what I need. I So now how frustrating it is to go from not really have a high and than eat than go to an extremem high. I can eat healthy but my main problem is of course the carbs but more so the overeating. :( Im trying to get better thou. Hang in there it will get better. :)

nakedbaboon 2010-05-20 17:54:19 -0500 Report

Hope carb counting goes good for you. I am going on the pump as of tomorrow morning. I have been using a lot less Insulin since my unscheduled fasting this weekend.

Florian 2010-05-18 17:55:32 -0500 Report

There are a lot of variables and unknowns to control and deal with to make it as simple as matching the insulin to your carbs with a carb ratio of 15 and expect a perfect blood sugar 2 hours or 4 hours after eating.

Think about this. When you inject 9 units of insulin into one area it takes a little while for the insulin deposit to diffuse out and get absorbed. Then its got to travel all around the body where it can be utilized to transport the sugar from the blood into the cells where it is used for energy. Try this if you can inject 4 units in one place and 5 units in a second place. Now you have two deposits where the insulin is diffusiing out to get absorbed. It means doing two injections but with todays sharp thin needles you hardly feel it.

How about the timing of your injections, immediately before you start eating, 15 minutes before, 30 minutes before? It can make a difference. The insulin needs a chance to diffuse out, absorb, and get transported around the body.

How about the carbs that you are eating, are they low glycemic index carbs (raise blood sugar slowly) high glycemic index carbs (raise blood sugar rapidly).

What about the other food components in your meal, proteins and fats. The fat can effect the metabolism of the carbohydrate. The fat might slow down the metabolism ( carbs to glucose) and you could have a long and steady release of glucose into the blood resulting in high blood sugars 4 hours after eating.

Talk to your Doc or Diabetes Educator about these things and ask them if they think it would help you to try some of these things.

apeape 2010-05-17 13:57:25 -0500 Report

135 is too much for one meal, even if you take enough insulin to cover it (or what should be enough if just math could fix it). your body probably can't handle that many carbs at once & couldn't process it all- i know mine can't. i completely understand the temptation, but you just gotta try to fight it!!! ;p

Lotuspearl 2010-05-17 14:56:16 -0500 Report

Hello, I have had type 2 diabetes now for 2 years and started taking insulin the day I was diagnosed. I had been using just pills to control the high blood sugar, then one day the count sky rocketed to 500 and I went straight to the doctor. I started with 15 units at first but quickly realized I only felt better for a short while. I went back to my wonderful Dr. and we upped the dosage to 40 units twice a day, and kept using the pills as well. I went to a dietitian the same week and she had me go on a low-carb diet of 65 carbs per meal, 3 times a day, along with a snack. I started out at 222 pounds and as I started the insulin and kept the carb rule the pounds started to slowly come off and after about 8 months the pounds started peeling off. I was able to stop the pills and just stayed with the diet and insulin; then after 1 1/2 years I was able to use the insulin less and less, some times only 3 or 4 times a month! Now almost 2 years to the month my blood tests come back as with any one with out diabetes, I weigh within the correct weight for someone for my age and height…So what I would like to say to nakedbaboon is, if you are going to carb count keep your meals balanced and don't put them all on one plate at night! I am not familiar with your dosing method with insulin,but I kept mine on a schedule and used it at the same time every day. Too, things take time, so track how you feel after each meal, some foods though you may think are o.k. to eat may react to your system differently than it would with others. When you don't feel as you would want to, figure out as quickly as you can what you ate that might be causing a glucose change that causes you to feel uncomfortable. Good luck and stay in touch with this site for support, I have just joined myself and am happy to see that there are so many caring people out in the world who for the sake of health and happiness are willing to reach out to one another! Thanks, Lotuspearl…

CONNIE BELIEU 2010-05-19 13:34:01 -0500 Report

You sound a lot like me. I've been a diabetic since 2004, which was a shock to me. First off my doctor told me not to test my self. Well I was curious about testing my self, so I went to a diabetic clinic & the ladies were shocked that my doctor told me this. So I went back to my doctor & told him what the clinic told me! He was so mad at me! He said he knew my body, they didn't! Anyway I did quit going to him. But then I didn't have a doctor. So I listen to other people, read articles, ect. Finally I got another doctor, he isn't a diabetic doctor, but he knows somethings, but he also sends me to a couple dietetics & they help me. But the doctor I go to, when he test me every 3 months. He never tells me what my A1C is, just my averages. So how can I fine out about that!

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CoriStanley 2010-05-16 13:05:03 -0500 Report

WOW! 135 carbs for one meal?! No wonder your BS is thru the roof…I make sure I don't eat more than about 40-60 grams of carbs per DAY! You need to cut WAY back in carbs and exercise. I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in June 2009. My BS was in the 500s at that time and I had lost 35 lbs…I was told to take 2 mg of this pill per day but now that I've lost a total of 60 lbs, keep the carbs low to where I mentioned above, watch my portion control and exercise, I haven't taken any diabetic medication for 2 months now! Carbs are not only the enemy in losing weight but they are the enemy to diabetics. It may be "hard" at first to go that low in carbs but once you've got it out of your system, in a few days, the cravings WILL stop…Sugar/carbs is an addiction.
Good luck!


nakedbaboon 2010-05-17 09:43:52 -0500 Report

I realize this is kind of high for carb intake. Also realize your 40-60 Grams PER DAY is low. Most adult males are 60-85 Carbs PER MEAL. I am a 26 Yr old ACTIVE Male. Also I will go this high just having 72 carbs!!!!!!! This is just one example.

Saxy Granny
Saxy Granny 2010-05-17 11:29:19 -0500 Report

Most adult males are not diabetic.

thall451 2010-05-23 00:19:47 -0500 Report

I know many adult males who are diabetic. My brother and my father both were. There is a major baseball player who wears an insulin pump on the mound. There's another famous man who does a commercial for diabetic supplies.

thall451 2010-05-23 00:13:04 -0500 Report

It's not "kind of high", it is extremely high and the reason your BG's were so high as well. After 2 hours, a post-prandial should be about 180 or less to be an acceptable level. I've been diabetic since 1992 (18 years), and I keep on top of my disease by knowing everything I can. Carb counting isn't too difficult to learn. When you learn to eyeball your portions, you will do better.

The current view of how to eyeball your portions is to look at your plate and fill it accordingly: half the plate with non-starchy veggies, 1/4 the plate with your proteins (meat, etc), and 1/4 with your carbs. Since you take a shot of insulin based on the carbs on your plate, you need to remember that just because you can cover all of them with a shot, doesn't mean it will be easy for your body to deal with. Your body isn't going to use all of the carbs just because you eat it. When it has all the fuel it needs for current function, it will store ALL THE REST OF THOSE CARBS IN FAT CELLS. Makes you think twice about overeating, huh?

On the other side of this high carb issue is the low carb issue. When you don't provide your body with enough carbs, it will look for sources within your body. Don't think that you are going to lose weight because your body is going to use up your fat store…nope! It will take its carbs from muscle tissue FIRST! Meat (muscle) is protein and when processed, it produces a small amount of carbs. This is where the body will steal from first…fat stores are used last. This is muscle wasting, and the body does all it can to protect the most vital organ…the brain. The brain functions using two fuels: water and glucose. So…you will lose weight, but its muscle that you will lose, not fat. Don't under carb. It's dangerous.

When my husband and I went on the South Beach diet, I lost weight, but I also suffered from short term memory loss due to the terribly low amounts of carbs I was eating. I also used Byetta for about a year and a half and couldn't hardly eat much at all which also caused some memory loss for me. Low carb diets can be dangerous, so be careful.

apeape 2010-05-17 14:02:39 -0500 Report

your body needs carbs, otherwise you can go into ketosis or ketoacidosis, especially type 1 diabetics. type 1 does work a bit differently from type 2, the same things don't always work. the trick is eating good carbs as opposed to the bad ones.

ramtuff 2010-05-29 14:47:05 -0500 Report

I was diagnosed April 2007.I couldn't afford the testing strips at first but found someone online to purchase them. So, I didn't really start trying to eat better until November 2008. During that time, I ate what I wanted, and altough I didn't know what my BS was, I didn't gain any weight. Then I had hip replacement. The Diabetes Center told me that I had to eat more carbs, 45 grams per meal! In 3 months I had gained 20 lbs. Over the next couple of years I have been fighting a battle to maintain a healthy BS. I just had 3 operations on my other hip since Feb. My Diabetes center also tells me that if, 2 hours after a meal, my BS is 150 or over, tht I can't eat again until it drops. Sometimes at work, I am not eating lunch until 3 pm. It is soooo confusing. I take metformin and glyburide 2x a day. Sometimes after work or when I wake up in the morning my BS is 45-80 and then other times it is 150 or over. Any ideas?

Danielle B
Danielle B 2010-05-29 20:51:19 -0500 Report


I do not know what kind of work you do but with the hip problems I would guess that you do not work in a stregthenous (sp?) job. Do you have a desk job or work some where that you could sneak and eat a pack of peanutbutter or cheese crackers somewhere around 11:30-noon? The protein will help stabalize you and the carbs will give you an energy boost to your bs and energy levels so you are more productive at your job. Use that excuse besides the "I am a diabetic and need to eat now" one and you might get a better response from your superiors.

Good luck and heal quickly

Skyraven 2010-05-15 22:47:52 -0500 Report

How about exercise? are you getting any? exercise always helps me regulate what I eat! Just walking a mile 2x a day is a habit I got into. That way you metabolize the carbs you eat better. I've been on a pump for the second time in my 53 years of diabetes, and it's working much better this time, because I have made diabetes a friend rather than an enemy. The more you work with it the better things will get. some days are good and some not so good, but be vigilant, love yourself for what you have, and be and do the best you can in the moment of each day. Plan ahead for meal times, and exercise, exercise, Exercise!!!! Thanks for letting me share! Skyraven

nakedbaboon 2010-05-17 09:48:37 -0500 Report


I think even with as active as I am i need to get more exercise. One comment that caught me here (good thing) is the making diabetes your friend instead of your enemy. I really would like to learn more about this. PM me if you could.

faulknerfl 2010-05-15 10:06:20 -0500 Report

I have substituted whole wheat pasta for regular spaghetti and I notice it does not affect my BG the same way. I still have to watch the amount I eat but my counts stay lower. My family will eat it also, once it is cooked it does not look different. Good luck

dr8m1t4 2010-05-17 13:33:58 -0500 Report

Have you tried the DreamFields brand of low carb pasta? I find it in Ralph's and Albertson's. It seems to be pretty readily available.
They have a proprietary process wherein they "wrap" a good percentage of the soluble carbs in a non-soluble fiber (called inulin). This, then, passes through your system without being digested. By their calculation, the initial 41g of carbs ends up at 10gs, or even 5gs of digestible carbs. Tastes like the real thing, too. They even have the Good Housekeeping seal of approval. Try it.

Anonymous 2010-05-15 09:48:05 -0500 Report

From my perspective, it seems like you want to have your cake and not have it too. I don't think the point is not to watch your diet and not exercise … it's to do those things as well as taking insulin when needed.

nakedbaboon 2010-05-17 09:51:12 -0500 Report

Dear Private,

Why post Anonymously??? Your reply makes no sense to me. I would post the quotes of what does not make sense but truly I do not understand what you are trying to say. Not being a jerk just don't understand what you are trying to say. If you are trying to say what I think you are trying to say then you are assuming.

nakedbaboon 2010-05-18 11:21:31 -0500 Report

Sorry just read this post once more and understand what you are saying. I am sorry. I am a fat slob. I am 6 Ft tall and weigh in at an astounding 147Lbs my friend. I am an active person. I am a volunteer Firefighter. I would say I get enough exercise. Along with that I go fishing once a week at least and usually have something constructive to do on weekends that involves me moving my fat @**.

Please before you open your mouth once again and insert your foot and waste everyones time do not be an @** quit assuming. I hope next time you remember what your foot taste like and you don't like it!

Sorry to everyone who has to read this. People are ignorant. Thank you to everyone on here who has posted helpful suggestions or even anything but this. What a moron.

valeriebst 2010-05-13 21:44:09 -0500 Report

Wow! Are you kidding me here? You ate 135 carbs and then can't figure out why your high? My meals fluctuate between 20 and 60 carbs at any one time. I would never even consider eating anything that would be so high. Dang hun…what did you eat?

nakedbaboon 2010-05-14 12:51:04 -0500 Report

Spaghetti. I was told I can eat anything I want as long as I take the correct amount of Insulin to cover. I was not given a specific to stay in on carbs. I go high like this even with 50 or 60 carbs. Yesterday 2 hours after eating 72 carbs and taking 7 UI I was at 298. Adjuted my Carb Ratio to 11 just ran numbers and they are saying 8.18. So here we go.

leah66 2010-05-14 15:44:34 -0500 Report

wow 135 is a lot of carbs..I have found that if I split up my insulin it helps bring down the sugars. pasta, potato and bread raise my sugars and keep them high. I cover with half to 3/4 of my insulin then cover again about a half an hour to an hour after I eat

nakedbaboon 2010-05-14 16:19:16 -0500 Report

Yeah I thought about that but hate sticking myself. I am fixing to go on a pump with in the next few weeks and I am going to try that with Pasta bread and pizza.

valeriebst 2010-05-14 23:41:40 -0500 Report

Ah pasta! That's a lot of spaghetti! During my education phase it was explained what was a proper serving size. This is what I still go by to judge what is good for me to eat. Though it takes more thought, planning and reading of labels I find doing these things have given me the ability to stay healthy even though I have had type 1 diabetes for 20 years. I have been on a pump for almost 3 years. It is much better than insulin injections but it's not something you can switch back and forth from as it appears you believe for pasta, bread and pizza. It is a constant use item. It has to be attached 24/7 with little time off for things like showers and swimming. And you have to change it out every 3-4 days.
As for the pasta thing, try changing the pasta for spaghetti squash. Cauliflower either shredded or mashed in a food processor for replacement of rice or mashed potatoes. Adding your typical add ins for rice or potatoes cauliflower is awesome!
Good luck to you.

nakedbaboon 2010-05-17 09:58:04 -0500 Report

Hey Valerie,

I am going on the pump period not for Pasta bread and Pizza. LOL Sorry for the confusion. Once i am on the pump I will try the insulin spilt mentioned in the post above that one when eating the Pizza bread and Pasta. The real starchy stuff.

JourneySong 2010-05-15 17:35:46 -0500 Report

Ooooo, no! 135 g of carbohydrate is way too much, even if you are on insulin! You should thank the insulin for doing such a good job, since without it you would be in the stratosphere, your sugar would be so high! Besides, consider the following - even if you could just eat any amount as long as you have enough insulin to cover it, where are the calories in those carbs going? insulin puts calories away as fat, which increases your insulin resistance, which means you meed more insulin to get the same effect, which also increases your insulin resistance, making your diabetes worse and worse. Diet management is crucial; remember, before you were diabetic at all you had enough insulin to cover, and look where eating huge piles of carbs when you pancreas was making its own insulin got you.

nakedbaboon 2010-05-17 09:55:19 -0500 Report

I guess I do not know what you mean.

"Diet management is crucial; remember, before you were diabetic at all you had enough insulin to cover, and look where eating huge piles of carbs when you pancreas was making its own insulin got you."

What do you mean by this?? This is not why I am a Diabetic. This has nothing to do with anything.

nakedbaboon 2010-05-18 11:23:58 -0500 Report

Recurring Pancreantitus has destroyed my Pancreas and my Islets that produce Insulin.

I have always eaten a lot even as a child. I have never been over 205. Being 6 ft tall I do not think 205 is too bad. I for most of my life and now am back around 150. Right now i fluctuate from 135-150.

dr8m1t4 2010-05-17 13:44:01 -0500 Report

Ah, but diet affects those things that are important to diabetes management. If you don't watch your diet to eat "healthy" foods in moderate quantities, you can develop obesity, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, even sleep apnea - to say nothing of the role of genetics. All - ALL - of these can lead to diabetes. There is no cure for diabetes, but it can be managed by eating the right amounts of the right foods. Most foods qualify as "right" foods if they are eaten in the "right" amounts. I love pasta, but have learned that, even with low carb pasta, I have to cut down on what I eat. It doesn't seem like much, but it is enough to satisfy the dietary and nutritional needs of my body - that's what counts!
Failure to properly manage diabetes can lead to even more serious problems that affect kidneys, heart, eyes, nerves and even skin. So think twice before blithely dismissing the importance of food and nutrition management.

thall451 2010-05-23 00:27:26 -0500 Report

I would talk to your doctor about changing the ratio because it's not working for you even on a lower carb meal. I assume that you are taking 1 unit of insulin for every 15 grams of carb, is that right? My ratio was 1 unit of insulin for every 7 grams of carbs. This was what it took for my body to properly cover the carbs I ate. Talk to your doctor about that ratio. I think that would fix it for you, and keep at a lower intake of carbs per meal.

Katie17 2010-05-13 17:17:03 -0500 Report

Ok, so I have a question reguarding bs, diabetes in general. I've been having low blood sugar problems for quite awhile, a few years now, and they've just gotten worse. I started seeing an endo last november or october, who diagonsed me w hypoglycemia. She put me on a low carb, high protein, no sugar unless w a meal diet. This worked for a little, but not really. Im still sick all the time, and I'm starting to think my blood sugar is getting high at times. Back in Feb, the nurse at school checked my bs literally 1 minute after I ate lunch and it was 119. I had only had breakfast at 6, and I didn't have lunch till 1. is 119 high? More recently, I've noticed that Im almost always feeling sick, but It's not always a low feeling. Sometimes I wake up w lows, and they are pretty bad, and other times I wake up, but it doesn't feel low. Im confused why I'm feeling this bad if Im following everything the doc says. Back in Nov my a1c was 4.9, which I guess is really low, but still acceptible. In feb it was 5.0 or 5.1. I've just recently started feeling different sick symptoms…At one time I had antibodies in my blood and the doc diagnosed me with hashimotos. As of 3 mts ago, my levels wern't bad enough to put me on meds but Im getting sicker, so I hope i can be put on some kinda meds to make me feel better. Im 17 btw.
Most recent symptoms:
tingling in feet
shaking, can't concentrate - when low
overall sick feeling - almost as if im drunk (although I've never drank - haha)
I have periods of hrs that I'll have a unquensible thirst, and ill be sick, but it doesn't feel low.
I don't have a meter, so I don't know what my levels are.
How does this make any sense?

valeriebst 2010-05-13 21:49:57 -0500 Report

Get a meter!!!! You really need to know where you're at and should be tracking it. Test first thing in the morning, 1/2hr after each meal and before bed to start. Give this data to your Doctor. Surprised that the Doctor hasn't given you a meter or at least strongly recommended one. Your test strips are covered by most ins. co. if prescribed. Your A1C number are in the very normal range except think the 4.9 may be considered low. With Type 1 I'm averaging between 6.2 and 6.8. Doctors prefer you to be no higher than a 7.

Danielle B
Danielle B 2010-05-14 13:28:29 -0500 Report


Hello! I was diagnised at 12 so I know how hard it is to be a teen and dealing with all these STRANGE things going on. I am a Type 1 and now have an insulin pump to control my bs. I used to not check my bs very often if ever most days and that made a lot of difference in the way I felt because I had no idea how to react. I suggest a One Tounch neter. I have had one forever and I am on my third one. I have found it to be the most accurate in my testing results. If you are squemish about blood or the sticking of your finger I promise that it is not hat bad. And there is the new technology that allows you to check on your arm. That does not work well for me but I have survived almost 21 years of diabetes. My anniversary is next week actually and I always treat myself to something special if only something really small and cheap. It is the thought that I made it another year that makes the point worth it. Call your endo on Monday after school and just ask to speak to a nurse and request a meter and a prescription of enough testing strips so that you can check at least 4 times a day. Yes that means you may want to take your meter to school and have the nurse help you with it. I had to go to the office because there was no nurse and I would sit at the table in the back and do my thing. I also had to take a shot before lunch. PLEASE include any of your friends that are around on a regular basis. Mine were pretty much clueless and it got me into trouble more than once. I know it is scary but it is managable with all the gadgets that are available today. BIG difference from 20 years ago. LOL The first meter I had it took over two minutes to check your bs. And it was top-of-the-line stuff then.

Stay calm! That also affects your bs levels (both directions). Keep in tounch with us and let know how you are. Good luck and stay well!


Katie17 2010-05-14 15:28:40 -0500 Report

Well like six months ago we asked for a meter from our doc to see how low i was really getting. The doc refused cuz she said it would just cause more stress in my life and that i didn't need one because i wasn't diabetic. She said i could just manage it w food and exericise. It hasnt worked…obviously. Well I go back to the doc on the 25th of may and were gonna ask for a meter because i know that my sugar is swinging, and its not just low so i want to know how high or how low its going. I hate blood tests but I have to get them every two months to check my thyroid levels. I don't mind sticking my finger, as I have done this several times. But im really determined to get a meter this time cuz i want to know whats going on.

nakedbaboon 2010-05-14 15:38:12 -0500 Report

You can always get one from Wally World. They sale some that are a disposable meter on the cap of the strip bottle.

Katie17 2010-05-16 08:15:56 -0500 Report

Well supposidly our doctor is really good because everyone goes to her. Im hoping to tell her everything next week and show her how bad its really gotten and if she still wont give me a meter, believe me, idk. I can remember a few years ago when this all started happening and it wasn't that bad, we went to childrens. They seemed like they wanted to help, but at the time, I was not having a lot of lows, didnt really know what was going on, just a little sick,,,,so they couldnt' really help me.

gramme 2010-05-16 16:42:32 -0500 Report

Just because "everyone"
goes to her doesn't mean she right for you..if you have insurance where you work, they should provide you with a meter for free..mine did..I have to buy my test strips and lancets.

GabbyPA 2010-05-14 06:43:30 -0500 Report

Please, please get a meter. You cannot tell what is going on without one. You won't know how to treat what you are feeling unless you get one. Make sure that you get some goal numbers from your doctor as to what he wants to see for fasting numbers and after meals. Meters are usually free, so get one that your insurance will cover the test strips on.
A 4.9 is a great number, but if it is because you are having a lot of lows, it should be a red flag for your doctor that something is not right. You really need to sit down with your endo and get some direction. With the symptoms you are describing, your levels are all over the place. The last thing you want to happen is that you have a low where no one knows what to do to help you out.

sloane 2010-05-15 06:56:20 -0500 Report

You also may be a candidate for a CGM-Continuous Glucose Monitor, which is an attached device that will give you doctor much more info about what happens to your BS. high protein snacks are helpful, but after careful monitoring you may want to see a dietician. Hang in there!
You Mose Definitely need a meter. I have two sons with diabetes and know this is a delicate age, but you can do this!!

Katie17 2010-05-15 08:24:50 -0500 Report

Is a CGM kinda like a pump? HOw does that work? We're gonna try to get our doc to give us one when we go on the 25 but if not then we'll just go get one.

Patty johnson
Patty johnson 2010-05-16 06:26:35 -0500 Report

Meters are free. Try Bayer.com. I have gotten 2 free ones. One just came in the mail out of nowhere! The thirst thing indicates high blood sugars. I check my BG 8-10x a day. I was 429 fasting in Feb 2010 (first diagnosis) and now have around 70-100 fasting. My A1C was 14 and is now 8! I find walking even just 2 blks will bring the bg level down by 20-30.

Katie17 2010-05-16 08:16:48 -0500 Report

ya, we're going to try to get one from the doc, but if you don't get it from the doc, don't you have to pay for the strips and stuff?

monkeymama 2010-05-11 21:34:51 -0500 Report

I have been on a 1:10 ratio for OVER 2 years (almost 3 years). My new Endo doctor is trying to see if it is time to make a change to this. I had this ratio while being on injections while waiting for my pump and remained on this after being placed on my pump. Everything changes at some point. Our bodies also tend to respond differently to things. Sometimes you can eat one thing and you'll react one way. The next time you try to eat that same thing. I might act a completely different way. Hang in there and try to be positive. :)

kdroberts 2010-05-10 08:20:14 -0500 Report

Just so you know, your carb ratio will change a lot over your life, it will probably change slightly depending on the time of day. You are just diagnosed so trying to figure out what it is right now. Depending on what state your pancreas is in right now you may still be losing insulin production so your carb ratio will be far from stabilized and will likely go down. You may end up somewhere around 1:8-1:10. As your body changes over the years you may find that stays pretty true or you may need to lower it even more. If you become more active and put on a lot of lean muscle then you may need to raise the ratio.

I didn't see what insulin(s) you are using either, both will play a large role in what your carb ratio will be.

badwound 2010-05-08 12:05:52 -0500 Report

I feel the same way danielle B. I found that I have gastrioporisis now and that sometimes I can hardly eat anything and then somedays it is like I can't get enough, so having the insulin pump helps alot but it is still a hard time with my BS levels yeah my family always knows when we go out to eat I will take almost all my food home because I eat a salad and I love salad bars lol.
Kdroberts-I find hat it depends on what carb I eat that makes my BS go too high. OH YEAH AND PLANNING IS WHAT WE DO FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES…and it can become a pain, I even go through periods where I am so sick of doctors that I will miss a appointment but I mail in my logs every 2 weeks anyways.

Danielle B
Danielle B 2010-05-08 23:40:44 -0500 Report


I have the same gastro problem as you and it is a hassle all the time. You do know that our loce for salads are the worst thing that we can be eating? My gastro dr fusses at me every visit because I used to live off salads and I still crave them. Although I limit myself with them now, I still indulge. I have a pump and I do not think that I would survive without it because of the closer control it gives me over when I was on shots. I fax my reports in about once a month and see the dr about every three months. I live for appoint,ents let me tell you. LOL


kdroberts 2010-05-07 10:32:55 -0500 Report

I'm going to highlight a few things you wrote.

"I am taking the correct amount of Insulin and my BG is still going way high!!!!"
"carb ratio of 15"
"This is my starting point"

Maybe it's one of those wood for the trees thing but your insulin dose is a starting point and will need to be changed based on what happens. It is obviously not covering what you eat correctly so it's not the correct amount, you still need to find that. It may be that you need a 1:12 ratio or 1:14 or different ratios for different times of day. Keep a diary of all your meals, exactly what you ate, what your BG was before, how much insulin you took and what your blood sugar went up to. Take that to your doctor, or fax it to them every few days, and ask for suggestions of little tweaks.

Also, have a read of the book "Think like a pancreas"

nakedbaboon 2010-05-07 16:53:22 -0500 Report

Good suggestions. This carb ratio has been working for me for the few weeks I have been doing carb counting. just changed it based on my documented info to Carb Ratio of 11. We will see what happens!

Elrond 2010-05-07 01:31:45 -0500 Report

We all have a different response to carbs and insulin. The answer that works for me could kill you and vice versa. The 109 is great and you need to work on maintaining that range. Perhaps the 135 grams of carbs at a meal was a tad excessive but we all tend to fall off the diets at times. As a type 1, I actually have more leeway than a type 2. I can load up on carbs and cover it with insulin. And since I'm underweight, that's exactly what I do frequently. But you need to determine the amount of insulin needed to cover any excesses. Just be careful not to overdose. It's much better to go back with an after-meal booster than have your sugar drop through the floor due to overestimating the carb count. I've made that mistake before and suddenly found my sugar so low I couldn't even remember how to operate my meter. Not only is this dangerous in the short term, it can cause long-term neurological damage. Caring for diabetes is definitely a juggling act.

Harlen 2010-05-06 23:28:28 -0500 Report

Whats your carb to insulin ratio?
I hate it too but like taxes got to deal with it.
I take in 40 grams of carbs a day and still use 150 ut of insulin a day but me Bs is good thank god.
my ratio it 2 gram carb to 1 ut of insulin, we are all difrent.
best wishes

nakedbaboon 2010-05-07 01:10:42 -0500 Report

WOW. I have been told 60-75 carbs per meal. My carb ratio is 15gram carb to 1ut insulin. This is my starting point.

GabbyPA 2010-05-07 07:52:03 -0500 Report

60-75g per meal is a little high, but your doctor may have you on that due to your activity level. I am not on insulin, so I cannot relate to that part of your frustration, but I totally get the rest. It is a huge learning curve.

Sometimes it is not just the grams of carbs, but what kind of carbs they are. For me, I cannot eat anything with corn in it. No matter how little I eat of corn products, I soar afterwords. I hate it, because I love corn. I have just had to learn to swear it off. (for the most part) Another one is white rice, brown rice...any kind of rice. I can eat pasta if it is the kind that has the extra fiber added to it.

Perhaps some food testing is in order? Try a food, log your before BS and then test every 30 min after for 2 hours. Find your peak and find your rise. It helps. It is a pain, but it is worth the effort. I found out about pomegranates this way. They are a NO. I also found out about ice cream and it is a YES (vanilla only with chopped nuts on top)

Harlen 2010-05-07 16:00:38 -0500 Report

Just know its a start and it will take some ajustment to get it all down keep at it
Best wishes

nakedbaboon 2010-05-07 16:54:04 -0500 Report

This carb ratio has been working for me for the few weeks I have been doing carb counting. just changed it based on my documented info to Carb Ratio of 11. We will see what happens!

Danielle B
Danielle B 2010-05-07 19:31:41 -0500 Report

I have to agree whole-hertedly about hating diabetes! I was 12 when I found out and I spent a week in what I considered hell learning all about it and what I was going to have to live with for the rest of my life. It consumes a lot of time and energy keeping on top of everything and that does not include when you have sick days. Does anyone else feel that it consumes you or am I just over reacting?

Keep trying

GabbyPA 2010-05-08 06:37:06 -0500 Report

Yes, it does take a lot of time if you are doing it right. It take planning, then the planning...and oh, did I say planning? LOL Everything we do has to keep it in mind. I think that is one of the things that people without it don't get. I guess I look at it as another hobby....that way I don't get as frustrated. I see it as an adventure in foods, adventure it exercise and an adventure it how my meter is going to be my friend today. LOL

Danielle B
Danielle B 2010-05-08 08:17:30 -0500 Report


Well my meter was not that freindly this morning! I only eat when I get hungry because I fill up quickly and do not feel hungry very often. So when I do get hungry …I eat pretty much what I want because I feel like i am starving. I balance this out by drinking the nasty Ensure shakes for calories and BG control. That helps and my weight stays within (give or take) 10 pounds. At my 3-month appointment I had lost 7 pounds but I will gain it back eventually. I am told that I eat like a bird and always have a doggie bag when we leave a resturant. But I get tired of PLANNING and having to follow through with all the details that make up the day. It has been so long that I have been doing this stuff that i can not even imagine considering it an adventure. I think of it as a hassle that is my life. Bad thought process but I still resent having to do it all! But your attitude is much healthier than mine. Thanks for the help in trying to change my thoughts on diabetes.


GabbyPA 2010-05-08 14:25:26 -0500 Report

I do believe that attitude is a huge part of the treatment. My dad had a discipline attitude. I wish I had his discipline. My brother was the complete opposite. He did what he wanted and then crash treated his highs with starvation. He was a mess. My mom is pretty disciplined and just takes it in stride and I guess I am a mix between her and my brother. I really try not to freak out about it anymore, because that would just aggravate me. Everyone is different. That's why this site is so great because we all can share how we do things, and it will help people of all kinds to find that connection.

Harlen 2010-05-09 12:33:40 -0500 Report

If I eat small meals rather then one or two big ones I feel better and my BS keeps right where I wish it to be and no more highs and lows and to be up front with all of you I feel better.
Best wishes all

nakedbaboon 2010-05-10 00:56:00 -0500 Report

I have switched to a carb ratio of 11 and it seems to be working better!!! Hopefully it is not just a step to a lower carb ratio.

monkeymama 2010-05-11 21:24:03 -0500 Report

I do the same thing with my diabetes. I eat 3 small meals and 3 small snacks each day. I do not always in take a snack though. It would depend on my mood and appetite. I also use a divided (and non-divided) toddler plate to help me. I have found if I use a full size plate and there's still room. I eat more than what I should.

GabbyPA 2010-05-12 08:12:16 -0500 Report

That is so true. We serve our family meals on the breakfast plates. Always. I have done this for years. When I set a table for guests with my dinner plates it looks so HUGE! LOL

Katie17 2010-05-16 08:25:59 -0500 Report

Ya I have three meals with three snacks. It seems like my body is unable to use the food I put in me the right time. Like me and my mom will have the same thing for lunch and then ill either crash or be sick w/in 1-3 hrs after eating. It varies; like sometimes it'll be low blood sugar and other times ill feel sick but it wont be low blood sugar symptoms. How to you react to different meals?

It used to be that id get low blood sugar in the morn. Then id feel pretty crapy, couldn't concentrate till bout 12 or 1. Id have a snack before lunch but it didn't help tremendously. Then id have lunch. Lunch usually helps. BUt by 3 or even before, I would be sick again. It seems like the more sick i am, longer im sick, the longer it takes for me to feel better again. Nights are usually my worse. Depending on the type of meal, Ill always be sick 1-2 hrs after I eat dinner and then i try to have a snack before bed, but its hard usually because im sick and dont feel like eating.

I've noticed that when Im gone for a long time like at an amusement park, I have massive bs swings. I don;t know exactly what they are, but I can feel them. I tire really easily, and other times its just a sick "high" feeling all day. ITs hard to describe.

I guess what im asking is how do i differentiate b/tween low and normal and high blood sugar. What affects it the most? etc.

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-05-11 10:42:49 -0500 Report

No, Danielle, you are not alone in feeling this way…I am on the pump, and I still have problems finding a happy medium, of which I don't think there is one! I was diagnosed 2 yrs. ago, and I am still learning what foods I can eat, and the ones to stay away from…It's hard, but we will make it…It's one of those trial and error situations; you just have to keep trying…Hang in there, and best wishes…

Danielle B
Danielle B 2010-05-11 11:44:36 -0500 Report


I just posted this link to another discussion where I have been offering recipes every week for all sizes of families and tips on nutrition for each one. I will add it here too. Track the site because this is where I add each recipe every week. There are already a few on there and most are budget-friendly and easy to prepare. I went to school for nutrition and completed one year of grad school in it before I was made quit by my eyes. I worked with all sorts of people in education and their care plans in a hospital for alost five years too. I also have experience with the comminuity health deapartments and the school systems. So give the link a look and read some of the other peole's responses.


Here for you. Been doing this for over 21 yearsnow. Still trying!


2010-05-16 17:14:19 -0500 Report

It might be that low carbs isn't necessarily the key for you. I know for me it isn't that way. What matters for me is the type of carbs.. not how many. I have to eat SLOW carbs and not fast ones. These are the kinds that turn to sugar slowly.. so that my insulin can keep up and not be overwhelmed. I do agree with the others though, if your doctor is not working for you.. remember.. they are hired professionals and can most deffinately be fired too. Good Luck! :))

Patty johnson
Patty johnson 2010-05-16 06:37:12 -0500 Report

Oh, now I understand what the carb ratio is! Duh! Mine is for every 15 grams carb I use 1 unit of insulin and for every carb unit over 150 I have to add in another unit of insulin. I usually use 8 units at brkfst,lunch,dinner. I have to take 26 units for fasting over night. Obviously I am on 2 different types of insulin and I also take 1000 mgs of Metformin 2x daily with food. I have come a long way since Feb 22, 2010. i also go to diabetes education classes and they are such a HUGE HELP! I can even read my symptoms now so I know when,what to have for a snck in between meals. I am feeling so much better I can't believe it!

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