old folk habits

shorty31
By shorty31 Latest Reply 2012-12-28 21:01:12 -0600
Started 2010-04-23 07:11:26 -0500

this morning i was thinking about the phne call i got last night. my aunt barbara called just to check on me to see how i'm coming along. i told here touch and go. and i asked her if she remember if granddad or grandma ever been really sick. she told me not until she riched her 90's. then we started to talk about the food they ate you know i dont remember if they drank soda. if they did it was coke to relieve stomach pains like gas. grandma ate apples for breakfast and drank butter milk, luch we ate greens fat back and a biscut, dinner we had fried chicken or fish, meatloaf, but we allways had veggies and we only got cake on sunday. our snake was a piece of fruit. you know my mom was the same way. in her house kool.aid was our soda.and those of you who are 47+should remember this and they were very healthy people maybe we ahould go back to the old folks way of eating i bet you we will feel a lot better because i miss my granddads garden.


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Dixiemom
Dixiemom 2011-08-01 13:47:01 -0500 Report

I grew up in the city. My mom had a victory garden in the back yard. My Dad would go to the farmers market and bring home bushels of beans, peaches, plums, tomatos and more. She would also shop at the "fruit/vegetable store. All they sold was fresh fruit and vegetables. There was a butcher shop for meat, a bakery for bread, rolls and cake of all kinds and even a fish market. We ate saimple food, no heavy gravies and sauces, a little icecream was a big treat. My folks had lots of energy and were very seldom sick.

shorty31
shorty31 2011-08-02 22:49:34 -0500 Report

i miss my granddad right now could a tomatoes sandwich right about now.

Dixiemom
Dixiemom 2011-08-03 14:30:14 -0500 Report

Had one yesterday and boy it was good. When tomatoes are in season my kids and I always have one when we are all together. And now the grandkids are involved too. There's nothing better then a reipe tomatoe right off the vine.

shorty31
shorty31 2011-08-06 08:17:42 -0500 Report

iam so jelous i wish i was there what i wouldn't do for a tomatoes sandwich right now yyou take care.

chucha
chucha 2011-08-03 15:29:28 -0500 Report

You are so right there is nothing better than a fresh tomatoe right off the vine. My sister and I would eat cherry tomatoe like they were candy. My parents used to have a huge garden full of carrots, potaotes, green beans, pepper, garlic, tomotoes, peas. Well we had to work the garden, one would go into the basket and one would go in our mouths. By the time dinner came, we were stuffed. oh those were the days.

BandonBob
BandonBob 2010-12-18 10:50:11 -0600 Report

I grew up a city boy but my mother had family and friends on farms nearby that she got fruits and vegies to can. My favorite memory was during WWII making butter. We would take the cream and put it in a Maxwell House coffee jar and we kids would shake it until the butter was formed.

squog master
squog master 2010-12-20 21:34:24 -0600 Report

When Pynetree mentioned baby food jars I remembered my niece telling me while she worked in a pre-school a few years ago they used baby food jars and made ice cream in much the same way we make the butter. I'll have to get the recipe/procedure and pass it on to you so you can do that with your granddaughter too.

Pynetree
Pynetree 2010-12-19 20:22:09 -0600 Report

Made butter with our Preschool school class every year for our Thanksgiving Feast…sterilized baby food jars! Retired now, but made butter this year with my Grandsons…they thought Grammy was MAGIC, and that it was the best butter they ever tasted!

squog master
squog master 2010-12-19 20:40:07 -0600 Report

One of my experiences w/ the preschoolers & my nieces & nephew too was that they all wanted to be the "last churner". The one who the butter blob finally came thru for. So they would shake & shake & shake til their little arms were ready to fall off.

shorty31
shorty31 2010-12-21 18:22:28 -0600 Report

i bet that was fun to watch. they can bring you so much joy to see them enjoy something you did as a child.

Pynetree
Pynetree 2010-12-19 20:48:45 -0600 Report

At our Preschool every child, in the Threes, had a Glass baby food jar…we also sterilized a glass marble to aid the churning effect. Other 3's class did Cranberry relish, Fours brought in , and helped cut vegetables for the soup. It was a great feast the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.

Pynetree
Pynetree 2010-12-19 21:20:08 -0600 Report

Yes, sterilized jars, lids and marble…chilled - add heavy cream - and shake till you can't hear the marble!

squog master
squog master 2010-12-18 12:52:27 -0600 Report

Years ago while working in a pre-school I learned the same thing using a peanut butter jar. Having lots of nieces & a nephew I started doing this with them for special occassions like Christmas. After "churning" the butter I would put it into candy molds of the season. And we'd serve it with the special Brunch we always had. Most of them are grown now but I occasionally still get in one of those brunches(I will this year) and when they get here the first thing my nieces will want to do is churn the butter. One of the best things is that now it will involve another generation of churners.

Pynetree
Pynetree 2010-12-20 10:59:40 -0600 Report

Love the idea of molding it…adds a bit of elegance too! And it really is the best tasting butter!

squog master
squog master 2010-12-20 18:09:51 -0600 Report

That was easy too! After the butter is a solid blob I run it under cold water to rinse & press out any excess liquid w/ the back of a wooded spoon. Then using the back of the wooden spoon I press the butter into the molds. Pop the mold into the freezer for 5 mins then pop the butters out onto holiday plates. The kids get so excited watching which character the different relatives choose.

BandonBob
BandonBob 2010-12-18 13:28:31 -0600 Report

That is really great. I guess I'm going to have to teach my granddaughter so she can have the fun too.

shorty31
shorty31 2010-12-21 18:18:40 -0600 Report

believe she will and what stories she will tell to her children. its almost like passing down your generations recipies

squog master
squog master 2010-12-18 13:48:25 -0600 Report

Definately make it with your granddaughter. Give her a memory. Some of my best memories I have are from baking w/Grammy. One time when my brother, Dan and his girls were coming for the weekend, primarily to do Christmas cookie baking w/"Aunt Barbie", I asked what they would like for dinner when they got here. Made a mess of suggestions one being ordering pizza, to which Andi replied, "Yeah! Can we have pizza… but… can it be the kind we make w/you?" I knew as far as homemade pizza was mine was pretty good. But I knew the experience she wanted was in the making of it not neccessarily in the eating of it.

shorty31
shorty31 2010-12-18 10:57:46 -0600 Report

now thats a good one, ihave to try that.see memories are good wjen the good comes out of them. even the bad one some thing good comes out like faith and strength. with out them we couldn't face what we are dealing with now. take care and happy holiday.

bizzach
bizzach 2010-12-10 09:32:01 -0600 Report

I believe in holistic foods also i make my own sugar free jam and freeze fresh fruit in season, its fun to go pick. Iys especially good on frnch toast and pancakes :) I also get geen beans and peaches and can them i love the summer.

shorty31
shorty31 2010-12-18 10:20:07 -0600 Report

you are really good you can and jar your own so you know what i'm talking and missing but you know when they did that they hardly got sick.

sc1boy
sc1boy 2010-12-10 06:43:33 -0600 Report

I am on;y 35 but I remember the old ways. mt folks hd a garden and we canned and ate out of that as well. It was great.

shorty31
shorty31 2010-12-18 10:21:48 -0600 Report

i know i miss that too. and when they did we hardly got sick some times old habits may be the best way to be keep on doing what you are and one day we might fight diabeties all together.

squog master
squog master 2010-12-08 23:47:19 -0600 Report

An old folks habit is telling family stories. Most people tend to shut them out as did my brothers & I. When my oldest brother had a pacemaker put in, I asked him if he told his cardiologist that heart disease ran in our family, our grandfather died of a massive heart attack and Daddy had angina. He says to me why don't I know those things. I said, "because you never listened to Mommy's stories!" What wised me up to start listening? It was an episode of Family Ties. The kids were griping about an old aunt who was going to visit and about the stories she told over & over again. Well when the aunt got there she was having the beginings of Alzheimers & having trouble remembering some of the stories. The family realized that if no one paid attention to these stories they would die out & the many of the stories carried important information. I of course realized this too & started listening more closely to Mom's stories after that. So all you young people out there. Listen to your parents & grandparents stories. They may save your life some day.

shorty31
shorty31 2010-12-09 22:07:14 -0600 Report

you are so right boy the stories they could tell some brought tears to your eyes things they went through just to servive. then the ones that made you laugh. and the ones that could teach you a thing or two.

estheratarah
estheratarah 2010-12-08 20:22:49 -0600 Report

My husband and I want so much to have a small cottage with a bit of land so we can go back to the old ways. Gardening, having your own chickens and beef cattle. Not a lot but a couple. Just live so simply would be nice. I read an article not to long ago where if the government has its way we will not be able to can our own foods or have gardens. I pray we can do this soon. I want to live peacefully.

benc3368
benc3368 2010-05-10 09:56:40 -0500 Report

this is so true, All of us need to go back to basics, like cooking our food from scratch, no more processed foods, bake,steam or broil, but do not fry your foods, meat once a week for a special dinner, like sunday dinner, drink water, to flavor it, use fresh vegetable or fruit juice from "real fruit or vegies" run thru a juicer.

shorty31
shorty31 2010-12-09 22:09:10 -0600 Report

yes i miss those sunday dinners seems like the whole family would come what ever happen to those days

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-05-11 03:26:02 -0500 Report

What is this about meat once a week? That is not the old ways I knew and learned from my gramps & my dad & uncles.

Meat was the basis of every meal, (except, perhaps breakfast) the main course around which the rest of the meal was put together. We either had beef, pork or chicken. Occasionally we'd have fish we caught from the river or pond or wild game like rabbit or squirrel or pheasant or duck.

And we didn't have those fancy power juicers, either back then. If we wanted orange juice we would squeeze it or use the citrus reamer. Of course that was when or IF you could get citrus fruits that far north (northern Ohio). Our mothers had gardens and canned the vegetables and fruits. We killed and cut up our own meat and wrapped it and put it in the deep freezer. We would butcher enough pork in the winter to last the whole year. spring and fall we'd butcher a beef, which would last us half a year, and butcher chickens as needed.

And we milked cows and drank raw milk that if you let it sit in the refigerator, the cream came to the top with about 3-4% milkfat, not some pasturized, homogenized white water.

Obviously MOST OF US - including me, 'cause I no longer live on the farm - can't do that anymore. We can do the gardens and try not to use overly processed foods, but living the old folk way is sadly, pretty much gone, at least as I knew it.

My ex & I raised my 3 sons on what we raised in our garden and put up in canning jars, but the way it looks to me, my sons won't be following our example. It saddens me a bit to think about it.

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-12-21 18:04:59 -0600 Report

Boy does that bring back memeories! I hated butchering days so I would hide away so I didn't have to help. Of course I still had to help with all the other chores. Like getting up at 4:00 to milk the cows before school. I hated getting the eggs from the chickens they always tried to peck at me. I live in a place where we could still live like this, but physically I can't do it and my kids are too lazy. It's too bad.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-12-22 13:06:53 -0600 Report

I loved hog butchering especially.

We did it between christmas and New Years, and the extended family would come together for 3 of 4 days to do it. We'd gather around the cutting table and they'd revisit old tales. (Like the time my dad as a youth asked one of his brothers for a knife, and brother threw it and it came down in his hand point first, stuck in the table and quivered. Dad looked at it for a moment, then fainted. That was a staple story - embellished a bit I'm sure - every year.)

We all participated in the cutting as soon as we could handle a knife without cutting ourselves (at least too badly) or others. I probably felt more a part of the extended family during hog butchering than at any time else.

In fact when I was about to graduate from grad school I asked my uncle, where we usually butchered hogs, if we could do it again. We hadn't done it before in a couple of years before that, and I think that year was the last time the extended family did it together. But by that time a lot of the older folks had passed away or were somehow not able to participate. My dad was gone by that time (not because he was old, but because of a freak gunshot accident). So subsequent hog butcherings were done by people who were set up to do it for a living.

I remember those times fondly.

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-12-22 20:22:32 -0600 Report

Wow that is great. We really missed out of the extented family as my mother moved us half way across the country when we were little. Thats funny, I was just thinking about this a couple of weeks ago when I went to my nephew's wedding. His stepdad has all his family in one town so they are always around. I think that is really cool! I wish I could have had that growing up.

shorty31
shorty31 2010-12-09 22:11:55 -0600 Report

i'm sorry but you still did great you cansay you had old folks habbit but in a different way if you thinkg about it you were there two. i miss it two all my happy thought were there

Crashnot
Crashnot 2010-12-09 14:56:21 -0600 Report

My grandmother died a day short of 98, and when she was growing up in northern Minnesota, the biggest treat they had as kids at Christmas was a juicy orange in the toe of their Christmas stocking. My, how times have changed! I have to wonder how good the oranges even tasted after the freezing train ride from Florida to Minnesota 90 years ago!

Hey, did you know that if you get milk from grass fed (versus the universally grain-fed today) cows, butter from that milk isn't hard, even in the fridge? And it's very good for you! Of course, finding milk or butter like that is a near impossibility today. Wish there was enough demand for it that our farmers could make money on it.

squog master
squog master 2010-12-22 21:33:46 -0600 Report

When my nieces were young I had a stocking at my house for them too. There was always an orange in the toe. And when a new niece came along, her 1st Christmas I would put in a little clementine.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-12-22 12:36:45 -0600 Report

I think modern kids have higher expectations when it comes to things like that, We appreciated it because we were pretty sure that this was all we were getting so we accepted it, gratefully or not. I remember getting some things I would rather not have gotten, but accepted them because that's what I was getting and that was that. I never thought to complain to my parents because I knew it was that (what I got) or nothing. Plus, I was a little afraid of my dad. Complaining like that to him was a sure way to get a reprimand at least or a spanking. Kids today seem to be used to complaining to parents about every little thing and getting away with it.

squog master
squog master 2010-12-22 22:20:42 -0600 Report

The only time I cried when I didn't get something I wanted was when I got a doll instead of a football. LOL. I was too young too remember this. I only know because it is an "old folks story" By way of explaination as to why I cried. I was a little girl with the influence of 3 older brothers. I wanted no part of dolls. And my Grandmom scolded my Mom for not getting me the football.

squog master
squog master 2010-12-22 21:41:04 -0600 Report

Boy is that last statement true. I've been working with kids all my life and the way many of them talk to their parents now a days is so rude. It seems to me that the more afluent the parents are the worse the kids are especially toward their own parents. And the parents don't bat an eyelash.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-12-22 22:33:46 -0600 Report

those parents have been taught (brainwashed?) to be "tolerant" and not "abuse" their children (corporal punishment).

When my boys were little, their mom & I agreed on the way to raise our kids. I had been beaten by a dad who lost his temper when I messed up. I decided that I would be different. I didn't go all the way to permissive, but chose to follow a christian psychologist Dr James Dobson.

Their mother & I decided what would be a punishing offense, and then told the boys what those were. If there was something that we forgot to tell them, we let the first time pass but told them that if it happened again, they would be disciplined for it. When they did transgress, we would call their attention to the action, and ask them what happens because they did that. They would tell us the punishment they would get, and we meted out the discipline, usually a swat or two on the bottom. We didn't lose our tempers, or if we did, we told them we were too angry to punish them now, but when we cooled off, we would administer the discipline. Using the same outline as before. After the discipline we would them give them a hug and tell them we loved them.

This past week my son Jonathan came to help move me to Las Vegas. We had a lot of time to talk on the trip to LV & he had a lot of good things to say about how we raised them. He volunteered the praise, I didn't prompt him to say it. It really did my soul good to hear that. He said he didn't LIKE the discipline as a kid, but he liked it that we taught him right and wrong, and felt our love for him, even when we had to discipline him.

There were times our sons complained about something, and we had to admit that we needed to change fhat something, and we did. But the basic things were rock solid, and they grew up knowing that. And that we loved them deeply.

Jon said he felt that his childhood was a great one. And it REALLY did my soul good to hear that. I had a dad who I was sure loved me, but got abusive when he got angered. I vowed not to be like him in that respect, to break the cycle of abuse. I think I did well in that, even if I do say so myself.

squog master
squog master 2010-12-23 00:18:43 -0600 Report

Too many of today's parents believe they have to be their child's friend, which makes it hard the be the parent. And sometimes you have to say so yourself. In this instance your son said it also. Which is awesome.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-12-09 20:28:22 -0600 Report

I remember getting an orange in my sack of Christmas candy given at Church after the Sunday School Christmas program every year. Being a kid, I preferred the chocolate candy and wasn't all that excited with the orange.

I read something about butter from grass fed cows in Dr Mercola's newsletter recemtly. Interesting. Our cows were fed grass in the spring, summer & fall but we did feed alfalfa or clover hay and some grain too. Making butter wasn't something we did at that time. Mom always used the stick margarine, and ate store bought white bread. So we didn't completely follow the old ways.

When I married my first wife we baked a honey whole wheat bread which was KILLER! We even bought a hand powered stone flour mill and we ground our own whole wheat flour grown on the family farm. For the first 5 yrs of our marriage we didn't buy any store bought bread.

Those were the days!

pat3
pat3 2010-12-13 23:44:58 -0600 Report

I will be 74 in a couple of weeks, & I remember so many of those things. Did you ever try to drink milk on the farm when the cows got into wild onions? lol No way I could do it!

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-12-14 00:41:15 -0600 Report

Nope I never have had the "pleasure" of doing that. a couple times the cows got out and did a square dance in the garden, and made a real mess of it. I can imagine it was not pleasant,

Crashnot
Crashnot 2010-12-13 19:52:18 -0600 Report

Those were the '70s! :-) My folks had a stone grinder, and the bread WAS amazing! No idea what they paid then, but the price today is verrrrry prohibitive, if you can even find a source to buy the wheat! I just found a fellow 40 minutes from me who does all local-grown grains, so am trying out a bunch of low-carb options that have no gluten in them. If I find a mix my kids approve of, I'll let you know! The hemp seed has certainly made some interesting (and NOT addictive!) results. It's sweet, so I can reduce the recipe sugar, and loaded with fiber and easily digestible protein.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-12-13 22:26:39 -0600 Report

Well, coming from the farm, we usually had wheat in the grainery, and got it free. I think we paid about $150 for the hand crank grinder. We did that in the early 80s. The motorized ones were very prohibitive even back then.
I had bought a "lifetime" subscription to "The Mother Earth News" and I found the grinder in one of the issues.

I tried to figure out how to put an electric motor on the grinder, but didn't get it done because I was too busy with other things. So to keep up with all the bread we baked we had to suppliment it with store-bought whole wheat flour.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-12-21 18:47:13 -0600 Report

Yes it still is, although it has really changed from when I had the "lifetime subscription". As it turned out the lifetime that it measured was the lifetime of the magazine publisher. They sold too many lifetime subscriptions and not enough regular subscriptions, so they ran out of money and sold the mag. to another publisher. The new publisher wouldn't honor the lifetime subscription promise. They seem to have gone "mainstream consumer" orientation. I lost interest and lost track of what was happening with them after that. I happened to see a copy in a Drs waiting room (of all places). I've also seen them in the magazine section of some libraries.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-04-25 01:34:48 -0500 Report

Talking about the old ways reminds me about an interesting encounter Jem & I & a friend had when we were out for a meal. We were in the Original Pancake House in Fremont. We weren't in there long when a couple came in and the young lady, about in her late 20s or early 30s had a drop spindle. She was knitting a sweater and doing it with yarn she had spun with that drop spindle. When I was in my late 20s I had studied wool growing and manufacting yarn by spinning so I knew what a drop spindle was.

Even though this is not about food and eating simple, it is neat that some young people are getting into those old ways.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-04-25 12:42:55 -0500 Report

I agree. We are so quick to buy something we could make ourselves. We would be less wasteful if we made more of our things because we know we spent time and effort to make it. I love hand made gifts, getting and giving. I give out a lot of the jellies I make and crafts are a part of life her. That is why I take so much pride in the quilt that Edie made for me. I gave her the pattern, she made it and so together we made something special. There is noting like it. We are so caught up in our techno gadgets and throw away society, that we don't even know what we are missing sometimes.

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-04-23 17:44:57 -0500 Report

You know, I grew up on a farm. We had a garden and raised cattle, sheep, chickens, & pigs. We worked hard and made everything we ate.
The last few years I have gotten back to having a garden. Lucky for me my son-in-law is helping me. It's so much fun and the veggies are so much better. We are even planting a new orchard so in a few years we will have fresh fruit also. I like having everything fresh and home grown. Wish I could get a cow!!!!

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-04-24 08:10:53 -0500 Report

Our garden is doing well, and I can't wait to start eating from it. We have thought about fruit trees too, but for now I think we are going to stick with blueberry bushes. We are also going to try to raise some rabbits. I love rabbit, it is lean and good meat. We are going to have them on the ground and together, free range kind of. No little pens for our bunnies.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-04-24 09:14:23 -0500 Report

Ever thought about a dairy goat? It doesn't take as much work as a cow.

I grew up on a dairy and grain farm in OH. We did all the old ways when I was growing up. Raised a garden, drank milk from our own cows, butchered our own beef, pork & chicken. Kept honeybees and extracted our own honey. The only thing mom didn't do was grind our own wheat. And for a number of years, up until '93 my ex & I had a garden and canned the produce. We didn't continue that when we moved to Las Vegas, for a number of reasons. Now, in CA I am thinking about doing it again, starting with a couple of tomato plants, and zucchini. .

shorty31
shorty31 2010-04-24 10:28:01 -0500 Report

go for it because my momand i were talking to day about this and how much healthier people were then some times the old ways were the best a lot of us didn't want to listen to the old ones but their wisdom was better for us .

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