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newintown
By newintown Latest Reply 2011-11-27 16:38:09 -0600
Started 2010-03-21 20:44:55 -0500

i am new. i take 2 kinds of pills. my sugar is still high. what good is testing. i test so now what? i dontknow what i can/cant eat. i wish i didnt know. i am a picky eater. i am doomed.


33 replies

Rick489
Rick489 2011-11-27 16:14:54 -0600 Report

I like every thing. Learn that this is a life changing thing. My sugar is less then 100 and has been for over 3 months watch your carbs and sugar. You really do'nt have to eliminate just reduce. I'm using a Contour and is easy and reliable to use. Do'nt give up or you will be doomed! Just take it one day at a time.

nanaellen
nanaellen 2011-11-26 21:23:50 -0600 Report

Heck I'm NOT a picky eater and I thought I was doomed too!! Do you have Insurance?? If you do then find a good nutritionist or dietician. I just found one myself and decided I was gonna be right up front with her and tell her what I liked and didn't like…what I could work with as far as textures and I don't do wheat anything and stuff like that…to my amazement she said o.k. no problem!! Well, here's what we'll do instead…You just have to find a good nutritionist!! They are good at their jobs and it is their job to work with you so you CAN do this!! If you cook try some of the recipes on this site you may be pleasantly surprized!! Good luck to ya! Ellen :)

Topper4
Topper4 2011-07-01 13:08:13 -0500 Report

Oh, please don't feel like you are doomed. We all know, first hand, how overwhelming all of this can be. You are at the right place though, welcome to Diabetic Connect. You have SO many resources, tools and friends, right here just waiting for you. Education is very key, as is support. You can find both here and I hope that you will be able to develop a good medical support system for yourself. Visit this site often and read the articles and take part in the discussions. Remember, there are no "stupid" questions, just jump out there and ask. That's how most of us learn the "in's and out's" of this new lifestyle. Again, don't be discouraged. I will pray that you are feeling more confident soon and look forward to reading about your successes… one day at a time… sometimes, part of a day at a time. It will get better!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-07-01 10:22:52 -0500 Report

Yep, you are doomed; there is no hope for your survival. Okay, I got that out of my system. Welcome to DC! Here you will find some good answers and the knowledge you gain will enable you to ask questions. I found out that it appears that no 2 people with diabetes are alike. some can do it on diet alone, some need pills, some need insulin. We all need a good diet and exercise. A good diet being one that is low in carbs (this is where your sugars are), but you also need variety, or else you will get bored. Read labels. Many of the processed foods are not good for you and the same goes for fast food. think double quarter pounder with cheese.
8 gazillion calories, 10.5 trillion grams of fat, and only 8 million carb servings. Anyway, you will adjust and you will live to see tomorrow. Jim

2011-07-01 02:03:51 -0500 Report

Hey Newintown~~ Welcome to the site. I hope that you find this arena very helpful. I'd say go see a dietician/nutritionist to start off with. I know that with a lot people here they all did the same thing, Me as well. It's really hard to know what you can or cannot eat. We all know the given. No sugar or "white stuff". But then after that, it's pretty much their own personal diets that come into play. But I remember when I was diagnosed 16 yrs. ago, I was in the same boat you're in right now. Everyone was at the start. It's a hard transition. From going to where you can eat anything that you want, to where now, all of a sudden you can't. It's just plain hard. No two ways about it.

Emma2412
Emma2412 2010-05-18 11:16:35 -0500 Report

Hi, again, Newintown
I just wanted to add to what I said earlier and say that you should test before any meal so you know where you are before you eat. My doctor advised me to test upon rising in the morning, before any meal and 2 hours after any meal. That gives you a heads-up on where you are. Then, as to diet, what works for one person might not work for you. So, don't be afraid of it. Try recipes here on this site and see what works for you. Everyone, even diabetics, need carbs and everyone needs good kinds of fat (olive oil, for instance). So, get in there and do your research and try out things. Remember, don't get discouraged and keep communicating with us here. We know what you're going through and we're all here for you (and I say that without any doubt at all).

cottoncandybaby
cottoncandybaby 2011-06-30 22:38:17 -0500 Report

Newintown, you will do fine, there is so much support here, everyone can identify. I am also a very picky eater, and right now am trying to make myself like fish, although I have hated it all my life, but it is not too bad if I buy a very light flavored fish, so it is all about trying new foods and trying to cut out the bad ones, as they say here, the white foods, which we have all grown to love, unfortunately. But it takes time to make these changes and there are still different kinds of treats you can have, so do not feel "doomed" in any way! Just take it a day at a time, and test your blood different times of day, as is said here a lot, so you get an idea of where your spikes are during the day. I always test my b/s every morning right after getting up, it gives me an idea of how I did the day before. I usually know when it is going to be higher, if I ate too much portion of food or the wrong food, etc. Also getting in some exercise does make a difference, it can be going to the gym or walking briskly around your block a few times, good luck, you will do great, we are all friends here who have the same thing in common…Amy

Emma2412
Emma2412 2010-05-18 11:01:56 -0500 Report

Hi, Newintown
When I was first diagnosed, I didn't really know much about diabetes but I happened upon a book written by Gretchen Becker called: "The First Year, Type 2 Diabetes — An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed."
Of course, I'm assuming you have Type 2. This book was written by a diabetic patient (with the help of I think two doctors). Anyway, this book taught me so much about the disease and what to do and, like I said, it's written from our standpoint — the patient. Keep on communicating with us here. We love to have other people to talk to and get ideas from.

Mistletoe
Mistletoe 2011-06-30 22:47:30 -0500 Report

I read this very same book when I was first diagnosed with Type 2…it is a great book and can be found on Amazon.com at a reasonable price. It gives you detailed essential information and lots of encouragement!

firstflight800
firstflight800 2010-05-02 00:37:45 -0500 Report

Hello there "newintown". I know exactly how you feel. It's like things are turned upside down. It will take awhile, but you will figure out what you can eat and how much without throwing your numbers off too much. It just takes time, and paying attention. I do know how that feels when testing doesn't seem to make any sense. All that poking and for what?? Well, unless you are willing to "at least for awhile" keep a log of what you had to eat and how much, and test your BG religiously a specified time after your meals, it really will be a waste. One quick tip also. It is also important to keep from eating less than two hours before you go to sleep.
The morning number is important because it is your starting point for the day. If you start out with a high number, your numbers will likely stay higher than you'd like all day. As for myself, I find that at times it is quite counter productive to "skip" a meal. And, quantities mean alot. Don't give up too soon. You will see real progress if you deal with this in a methodical fashion.

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-05-03 14:20:50 -0500 Report

Not eating 2 hours before bed is not necessarily a good thing. There is a thing called dumping that a lot of people have and some get really low in the night and have to eat before sleeping. Everyone's different!

sizzlehug
sizzlehug 2010-04-06 01:12:39 -0500 Report

I can tell you if you eat fish 3 times a week and switch to drinking green tea and water eating nuts and sunflower seeds that you will lose weight and sugar goes to normal. I was always low then overnight became high. i was at 457 and A1C was 10.2 on march 3,2010. the dr put me on metaformin and glipzide and i started eating more fish and drink green tea and walk and now my blood level are around 100 as of april 5th 2010. also if you worry or stress about anything your sugar will go high.

Pin Cushion
Pin Cushion 2010-03-31 06:38:56 -0500 Report

I have found that the best thing for me to eat is fish and a vegetable. If I eat that and take a 30 minute vigorous walk, I need to reduce my insulin or my sugar goes too low. Meat doesn't seem to have the same effect. Is that possible?

TonyV
TonyV 2010-03-30 08:25:59 -0500 Report

Hi there and welcome,

You have found a great place for information, support and help. In the early days though, I bet you feel like you have just received a death sentence, but you haven't, it really is not the end of the world - even if it feels like it, it really does get immensely better.

Here are some tips for a newly diagnosed type 2 diabetic.

1. Relax, I know it seems like the end of the world right now, but it really isn't that bad. You can and will gain control, you will feel much better. But you have to give yourself time.

2. It's normal to feel a whole range of emotions, anger, greif, denial, sadness, fear and to feel overwhelmed. Yes, diagnosis is a big thing, it's a milestone but you will feel better. Grasp it as a chance to live a healthier life and don't ever feel alone, the forums are full of great people here to help and support you.

3. Test, test, test. Testing is probably your best tool in gaining control. Test morning, before each meal and two hours after first bite and last thing at night. By testing before/after meals you learn how different foods work for you, we are all different and it's only through testing that we learn what works best for ourselves. "Test, Eat, Test, Learn".

4. You can eat anything you want, but you will choose not to eat some things. Don't get frightened about the idea of being on a special diet, you are not, you will find what works for you and you will find treats that you can eat from time to time.

5. Exercise, if you have not been exercising then fit some into your life. Don't try and do it, there is no try there is only do or do not (Yoda I think said that ). It really does help, especially with fasting numbers - in my experience.

6. Watch those carbs. Many of us find that reducing/limiting the number carbs we eat really helps. I have found that it helps to avoid high carb foods such as white bread, white rice, pasta & potatoes. (white food is bad food!)

7. If you have been prescribed Metformin (Glucophage) don't expect to see immediate results, it does not work like insulin. It takes time to reach full effect, it is not unusual for it to take 3-5 weeks to reach full effect. Some people experience gastric issues (wind, diarrhea) but in most cases this will pass (ehhh…no pun intended), reducing carbs helps this as does making sure to eat and then take the metformin. If you have gastric issues that don't subside after a week or so, talk to your doctor and see if Metformin ER (Extended Release) might be better for you, or if you could start on a lower dose and build up to the dose that was prescribed.

8. Get the book "The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes" by Gretchen Becker. Some find it easy to read and very informative.

9. Relax (I know I said that, but do try)

10. Visit these forums, ask lots of questions, never be afraid to ask for help/advice, if something works for you then do it, if not then don't. Know you can come here to vent to people who will just "get it".

11. Build new habits. I found that working to build new habits, whether it's about what/how you eat, when you test etc. it really works. Once a habit has been established it's hard to break it.

12. Build a relationship with your Doctor, drug store etc, they are all part of team you. Don't be afraid to ask questions of your Doctor. Become the captain of your team, work with your team and draw on their knowledge/experience.

13. When I joined these forums, I was told to remember that "You control your diabetes, it does not control you" - it's true. Don't let it rule your life, there's is no such sentence as "I can't…I have diabetes" - you can do what ever you choose to do.

14. Oh yeah, relax

Remember you are not alone. Will you stumble? quiet possibly, most humans do stumble from time to time, the important things is to get back up and start over.

Visit and post often.

(reposted from another forum that I belong to.)

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-03-29 17:01:04 -0500 Report

Testing you BG regularly is very necessary to give youself an idea of whether the drugs perscribed by your doctor are working or not. If you continue to see high BG levels make sure you call your doctor to tell him so he can adjust your medication. No you're not doomed -you just dont have the correct amount of drugs in your system.

Armourer
Armourer 2010-03-26 22:04:45 -0500 Report

Do follow the guides the other posters have given. Your not doomed, just feels that way. I have felt this way off and on for 13 years now. Currently feel this way and will for a while. Portion size, eat lots of protein. Work on changing. For me it just started with a oral pill. Ate the dietician meal and lost 42 pounds. Later switch to insulin and have gained all 42 pounds back. Exercise! I can't because of a herniated disc. Can barely walk, can't even do WeeII cause it hurts my back. Change slowly, but do change. What may happen down the road if you don't change, you will be doomed.

mrgee59
mrgee59 2010-03-24 16:40:30 -0500 Report

First of all I'm sorry you had to find us but now that you're here you should find info that can help you. I've been Type 2 for almost 26 years and have experienced many things about this disease. Many meds take up to 7-10 days to take hold. Secondly, take classes about eating low carb. 3rdly, get plenty of exercise. Fourth, you're not doomed if you take your meds and watch your diet and exercise. Good luck!

bluemax
bluemax 2010-03-23 21:04:29 -0500 Report

You are not doomed!!! If you blood sugar is still too high ask your doctor about insolin shots. I am a picky eater myself, but I keep my blood sugar under control with pills and 2 types of insolin injections. So, get busy and take care of yourself!

Roy531
Roy531 2010-03-23 17:26:19 -0500 Report

You need to go to a diabetes education class, some doctors will send you to one after you are diagnosed. They can help as far as what to eat and how much you can eat, portion size. If there isn't a class you can go to find a dietecian, they can help with a meal plan. Keep track with what you eat and test 2 hours after a meal if you sugar spikes then something you ate at that meal caused it, that is why it is important to have a dietecian so they can work with you on this.

trey66
trey66 2010-03-23 16:43:12 -0500 Report

Hi newintown,
I once heard on this forum think brown, (brown rice, whole wheat bread, whole wheat pasta, whole wheat…) and remember carbs are not your friend…You can also look up Diabetic Food Exchange and that will give you a starting point on what to eat. You should also talk to a nutritionist or diabetic educator. Checking you blood sugar is very impotant, that will let you know how much to eat and how your sugars are doing after you eat…

Best wishes…Hope yor number come down soon…

alanbossman
alanbossman 2010-03-22 19:56:50 -0500 Report

Hi and welcome to dc. Sorry you have to deal with your diabetes you may not like the choices for food but just read james blog and what he has gone through you do not want. You should eat in portion size meals and no white potatoes ,no white rice and no white bread. brown rice is good and whole wheat bread. Fruit and vegs are also good you must learn to eat this way or lose organs
Alan

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-03-22 11:27:47 -0500 Report

check with your doctor about adjusting your medications,see a nutritionist about what kind of changes you can make to your diet that might help.

spiritwalker
spiritwalker 2010-03-22 10:41:36 -0500 Report

Welcome to DC newintown, diabetes takes time,patience, co-operation with you diabetes team, and trial and error. Have you informed your MD. that your Bg
remain high and the Rx isn't working? That's the first thing that needs to
happen. The key to lowering your numbers is portion control and exercise.
If you start by removing everything with white flour,-bread,pasta, rice, snacks,
ect from your home and replace it with whole wheat that is a good start.
A good carb counting book such as the Calorie King can help with portions.
There are no easy answers. Diabetes good health takes work, but it is worth
the effort for a good life.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2010-03-22 09:03:56 -0500 Report

Nah, you're not doomed. You came here and we are here to help you sort all of the confusion out. It takes time, and small steps are best to take. You have friends here who will be glad to help you out.

How long have you been diagnosed?
What are the pills you are taking?
What did your doctor tell you about testing?
Has your doctor given you and nutrition information?

Here is a great place to start: www.diabetes.org You can order some free booklets from them and that will give you some guidelines on what to eat. Don't look at it as what you can't have, but how much you can have of what doesn't spike your levels.

Give me a little more information and choose a place you want to start and we will be able to help you out a little more with specific suggestions. Hang in there. It is overwhelming at first, but you can do it.

Harlen
Harlen 2010-03-21 20:58:19 -0500 Report

Hello and welcome
Boy do I know how you feel been there done that
I was on two pills and thay didnt do a thing for me .
Tested and kepped the # to show the doc and she put me on insulin
Have you been keeping the carbs low?
that helped me a lot
I am so picky as to food
As a Chef I love to cook and I love to eat
Hang in there read the post here and other sites and that will help you a lot
for a start cut the bread,rice,pasta and anything with more then 10 carbs pr serving and only have one serving lol I didnt do that part at first lol
Its a job but you can do it If I can any one can
feel free to email me and we will chat I check my mail a lot .
Best wishes
Harlen

newintown
newintown 2010-03-21 21:06:22 -0500 Report

i will do that thank you. i dont like fruits or veggies. im a meat and potatoes girl. what else is there. i dont know if i can do the salad or fruit thing. lord help me.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-03-22 02:26:31 -0500 Report

Howdy Newintown
and a BIG WELCOME to DC!

Meat is great. Fruits in moderation, potatoes, not so good.

Generally speaking, if it's white, -white potatoes, white bread, white rice, it will give you trouble.

It is up to you, of course, to go into denial concerning your diabetes, continue the eating patterns which got you here to this Dx of diabetes. You can do that and follow what I did for a few years after my Dx. Now I have so many problems. One of my most painful and embarrasing is Diabetic Neuropathy. My hands tingle all the time, my legs and feet burn like on fire, my sense of temperature is altered, and I have trouble controlling my bowels and bladder, all because of denial (not the river in Egypt). I pray you don't do what I did.

You may not like veggies, but you CAN retrain your tastebuds. I need to do a low salt diet because of my kidney problems (was on dialysis for 9 mos almost a year ago). I loved ham and other "deli" meats. Now I taste ham and it tastes WAY too salty and the deli meats too. It is not easy New, but it IS POSSIBLE to change what you are used to eating. Bit by bit you can do it.

I pray you take this to heart, because I wouldn't like someone else to have what I endure. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I am not writing this to elicit sympathy from you or anyone else, I want simply for you to see the seriousness of what you face and take a different path than I did.

Will Rogers once said: “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." Which of those will you be?

Praying the best for you and yours
~James~

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