I went for pill to insulin

By dfs Latest Reply 2011-07-29 15:32:13 -0500
Started 2010-03-17 18:50:07 -0500

Well i have been having very high sugar some time it is over 673 went to the hospital and all they did was just gave me a shot and sent me home but i was not feeling very good and i told them that i cant get my sugar to stay down i don't eat sweet or drank pop so i dont know what is making it stay up just like today it read high ever time i took it i never know how high that is so i hope some one can tell me what to do and i was put on a sliding scale what ever that mines i dont know any thing about that so if any one can tell me what a sliding scale is thank you

34 replies

RED RACER 2011-07-28 19:49:30 -0500 Report

I had a blood sugar that was so high once that I blacked out at the wheel, luckily no one was near & I hit a median on the of ramp. I usualy judge the amt of insulin by how much I eat. Another thing u might need is 2 add Lantus, because it helps over 24 hr period.

vonweidhaas 2011-07-28 12:10:38 -0500 Report

I am a newly diagnosed PWD2… A sliding scale is usually anything over 201 to 250 - 2 units of novolog, 251-300 - 4 units, 301-350- 6 units, 351-400 - 8 units as per my diabetic specialist. If over 400 I was told to call Dr. or go to ER I have read that some folks have had higher readings then what hospitalized me @543. Am not taking that chance. The hospital should have explained to you in more detail the sliding scale determined by your Dr. Please stay calm, call your Endro and see what local hospital has a diebetic clinic ( most Insurance covers this ). Keeping a food log helps to see what causes a sugar peak as well. Also eating at proper times, breakfast being important to fuel your body up. I must say I am stunned you were sent home without being admitted. If you still feel real bad, go to the E.R. and insist on seeng a Patient Advocate!!! Please let me know how you are feeling, I know the fear factor can stress you to the point that it too affects your levels. All the wonderful people I see on here as a newbie have alot of knowledge and knowing I have a place to go (even a virtual plateau) has made me more calm

Gimpalong 2011-05-02 01:45:42 -0500 Report

I don't know what insulin you are on, but I'm on Novolog and Levimer. I use a sliding scare for the Novolog. I find out what my BG# is, using a base number of 5 units, I then compute for my dosage. I enter the BG#, minus 120, divided by 30, = (equals). That will give you your units to add to the base 5. I hope that I haven't confused you. What helped me when I first started on insulin was to keep a journal to see what foods affected my BG#. I still keep the journal to see if my portions are OK, and if certain foods popped out. It makes me more aware of just what is going into my mouth. Good luck with your diabetes. It takes a while but I'm sure you'll get the hang of things soon. I was sent to a nutritionist who helped me learn about meal planning, what foods had what (natural sugars), and which foods were OK to snack on. Also, I went to a class about learning about what diabetes was, what caused it, and how to control it. Take care of yourself, and if you are married, drag your spouse with you to the doctor visits, classes, etc. That way they can learn the same things you are learning and help you when things are difficult. Just remember, too, we are all here for you.

God bless,

angieanddave35 2010-04-10 05:07:49 -0500 Report

Sweetners are bad for us, I know of one that is good, It's Steveia, in your health food store. And so is all read meat,and pork. Bufflo is low in fat, and is a good source of protien the healthy way. Chicken we should only eat the breast meat.

angieanddave35 2010-04-10 04:54:53 -0500 Report

I just started UltraGlycemX and let me tell you it works, I was having high readings and now I have stayed under 135 all day yesterday and I just started it yesterday, with a good diet it will work. Health and Wellness Doc can get you started, I use Wesley Delport from Springfield Mo.

Danni-the-diabetic 2010-04-17 00:35:58 -0500 Report

Is it a vitamin? and can it be used on type1??

jayabee52 2010-05-21 05:41:44 -0500 Report

Hi Danni- i did a search on UltraGlycemex and this is what the website says it is:
Insulin resistance
— Hypoglycemia

•A pleasant-tasting beverage mix that provides protein, carbohydrates, and fat, with the inclusion of specific fibers, vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients—including cinnamon—to nutritionally support insulin and glucose homeostasis.
•Provides nutritional support to individuals suspected of insulin resistance and hyperinsulinemia when combined with a low-glycemic-index, high-fiber dietary program as provided in the UltraGlycemX Patient Guide.
•Provides a balanced low-glycemic-index formula when mixed with water (glycemic index of 36 when referenced against glucose).
•Features cinnamon bark, which has been shown to promote healthy insulin and glucose metabolism in people with blood sugar issues. In vitro and animal studies also suggest that cinnamon may modulate insulin action.
•Features PharmaSoy®—a technologically advanced nutritional blend of superior soy protein, isoflavones, and non-dairy calcium.
•Comes with a comprehensive Patient Guide for complete program guidelines.
•Available in delicious Original and Natural Chocolate flavors.

more can be found here: http://www.metagenics.com/products/a-z-produc....

It is only avaliable through " licensed healthcare practitioners"

I don't know how good it would be for T1s

angie mentioned a "health and wellness Doc" so it is probably not a MD.

My take, it is just another gimmick playing on the Diabetics hope for a quick and easy fix for our DM. Checking her profile I don't see where angie has returned to tell us how it's been going with her experement.

Danni-the-diabetic 2010-06-05 01:46:55 -0500 Report

Yeah I got that and there is alot of stuff out there like that, though I haven't tried much of that stuff. Thanks for the info. Question though, what's so big with the cinnamon? I see it often mentioned out here.

Roy531 2010-06-05 08:50:08 -0500 Report

I have heard that it is suppose to help reduce blood sugars, I have heard it works for some and not for others. They have done a research on it and they say it helps.


Danni-the-diabetic 2010-06-06 14:02:51 -0500 Report

Hmm, I'll have to give that a try than. Lately my sugars have been anything but low no matter how much insulin I take or no matter what I don't eat.
Sounds contradicting to me, when I relate cinnamon to sugar. Like I said, Ill check it out. Thanks Roy.

:) Danni

Roy531 2010-06-06 14:28:06 -0500 Report

They make it in a capsule to take, may have to find a place to buy it. Can't just take the kind you get in store powdered kind.


Suby 2010-04-09 22:32:09 -0500 Report

Are you on other medications? My doctor put me on prednisone for asthma, and I ended up in the hospital with almost 400 blood sugar — fasting! I did not know this could happen with short term use, but as soon as I told the ER stuff what medications I was on, they nodded knowingly. Supposedly, the sugar levels are going to return to normal, but in the meantime, I'm on pills and insulin shots. Time will tell if it goes away or if I will have diabetes.

You may ask your doctor if the other meds you are taking can cause the sugar to be elevated, if you are taking any. If yes, you may need to ask if you should stop taking them and switch to a different medication.

Sliding scale means that you get a chart of blood sugar ranges that tells you how many units of insulin you need if your sugar is at a certain level. It's called sliding scale because the dosage changes (slides) depending on your sugar level.

Good luck, and take care!

dfs 2010-03-27 12:58:39 -0500 Report

well i went to the Dr and he ran a lot of test and i even had a mammogram done and it came back that they found something and now i have to have a ultrasound done to and i am so worried about it because we have breast cancer in are family

princessbeiter 2011-07-28 15:37:25 -0500 Report

Yes, don't panic about the ultrasound. They do that on all large breasted women. That's what they told me when I went for mine. It's pretty much routine. Maybe they should just give us the ultrasound and forget the mammogram. Sounds a lot less painful to me! lol

nanaellen 2011-07-28 12:40:14 -0500 Report

Are you a big breasted woman?? I know the first time I had a mammogram they found a "spot" and I had to go in for another test on just the spot. I was scared to death!! 3 days I had to wait for the next test and it was 3 days of HELL!!! What they didn't tell me was that MOST women who are big breasted when they have a mammo sometimes the fat cells line up and make it LOOK like a spot but it really ISN'T!! I went for my other test and everything came back normal. So don't panick too much it's not good for the diabetes!! Good luck with everything!! Ellen :)

alinfun 2010-03-25 01:13:08 -0500 Report

www.diabeteshawaii.com it helped me MAY help you ..MAY.. don't expect miracles.. we all must find our own way in the diabetes field.. what’s good for one may not be good for another. Then again we’ll try anything..
Good Luck

alinfun 2010-03-25 18:28:43 -0500 Report

We as diabetic's will believe anything thrown at us.. yet no medical scientific findings of what diabetes is and how did it come into view how did it develop and from where, what part or function of the anatomy’s organ (s) or gland (s).. We all say foods are the cause carbohydrates, sugars, I.e. yet the body produces all of the above mention.. so it isn’t foods all foods do is admit portion of the necessities to the body’s daily requirements ..the pancreas is defined as the culprit because we are led to believe a lack of insulin is the cause…but I ask is there a mechanism that activates the pancreas …and what is happening is that the pancreas is deprived of that activation. And unable to release insulin.. Insulin is not stored in the pancreas it is made immediately and ejected into the interstitial fluids and from a hydrostatic and osmoses interchange is release into the blood diluting sugar oils to travel to its proper destinations.. We need to understand diabetes as a condition that cause’s devastations… it is not a disease. but a condition..

princessbeiter 2011-07-28 15:44:02 -0500 Report

From what I understand, diabetes is a genetic disorder. If you have the gene, you are likely to get it. Diet and exercise and lifestyle can hold it off, but it doesn't mean you won't get it ever. However, if you don't have the gene, you can do anything you want, and you'll never be a diabetic. That's what I understand, anyway.

alinfun 2011-07-29 15:32:13 -0500 Report

If it is a genetic disorder then at the moment 546 million people have diabetes worldwide accumulated over the pass 50 years…and each year 47 thousand get diabetes…No I don't think it's genetics…if so we are all related from the same parents…wouldn't you say so???????. We accumulate diabetes from foods (carbos mostly) which turns into sugars…Now if the registration to the brain is not relaying that it is sugars but rather something else …it can't relay to the adrenalin glans to activate the pancreas to function insulin?????

MartySS 2010-03-22 11:54:42 -0500 Report

Hey dfs,

I had the same problem and my doctor sent me to a diabeties specialist. They found through a blood test that I as actually a type 1 and the pills were not working at all. I have switched to insulin and after about 1 month my sugar levels are almost normal. Something worth checking out.

dfs 2010-03-19 13:12:39 -0500 Report

well i am going to the dr to day i told them i could not pay and i told them that my sugar has been stay up and over 673 and they told me to get in there so i go at 4pm say a pray for me to find out why mine keeps going up and to one of you say about bread and pototas i dont ever eat that stuff i stay away from all that stuff
i want to thank you all for all the help

GabbyPA 2010-03-18 13:46:58 -0500 Report

If you are not able to get in to see your doctor about how to use insulin, you can see if a home health care provider can come to show you how. My mom did that, and that way she was at home, in a comfortable place and free to ask as many questions as she needed. It was much easier on her than going to a doctor who could only give her a few minutes.

Like KD said, there is so much that can make your levels high. If you have not had an appointment with a diabetic dietitian, I would highly recommend that. I know my visit and classes helped me understand what I should and should not be eating and helped me with portion control as well.

timwoo2003 2010-03-18 11:43:29 -0500 Report

I am the same way-although I dont eat as good as I should. It is a struggle not to eat the foods that are sooo good. Keep you spirit up, and go see your doc

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-03-18 10:49:52 -0500 Report

I had the same problem. I ended up having to take a shot of insulin 2 times a day and I'm still on my pills . You need to see a doctor ASAP.

kdroberts 2010-03-17 20:03:56 -0500 Report

There is no insulin pill but there are things that may help.

You say you don't eat sweets or drink pop but they are only a very small amount of things that raise your blood sugar. Any carbohydrate will lead to an increase in blood sugar, bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, fruit, plus may, many other things, so it's important to work out what things you can eat and what you can't. It seems clear that you need insulin and training. A sliding scale is basically a way for you to take insulin based on your blood sugar. It's OK but not the best and if you are not able to get an accurate reading, not a good choice.

With blood sugar as high as you have you need to go to the ER. Levels that high are very dangerous and can lead to very bad things. When you are there you need to make them understand you don't know what you should be doing and at least get a crash course in insulin, write things down. Then you need to get an appointment with a doctor who can help you and send you for some formal training. Until then, try watching your carbohydrate intake, aim to start out around 45g per meal and see what happens.

ER or urgent care is the top priority though. It would also be good in the future to go to the pharmacy and get some ketostix to test for ketones.

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-18 14:13:23 -0500 Report

I have to agree with Kd…If your blood sugar is that high and staying that high, you need to seek treatment immediately! It can be very dangerous…Take it from someone who knows; I have been there! So, please do whatever you have to do to get the help you need…Concerned, ~ Sue ~

runthe 2010-03-17 19:26:12 -0500 Report

Hi dfs, I am sorry to hear about you having high sugar. Like you I had the same problem with my sugar going over 500 for over 4 months. I was in the hospital and like you they sent me home. with a shot. I continue to feel sick until my appt with my diabetic doctors. they immediate put me on insulin twice a day. they told me that the next time My sugar gets out of control that not to go to the ER because all they gone do is give me a shot of insulin and then send me home. But, to come to the clinic right away. I am happy to say that my bg is now around 150 and i feel great. I hope that you can try and get to see your doctor soon. will keep you in my thoughts and prayer

Zimoss 2010-03-17 19:20:18 -0500 Report

you need to see you doctor ASAP… I am a little surprised they gave you insulin and didn't make sure you knew how to use it before you left. That is a little dangerous and pointless if you're not using it correctly.

also keep in mind most meters won't even give results over 500 or 600…and if they do they can be very inaccurate at anything approaching those levels so make sure if you are consistently getting results of "hi" or 400+ that your doctor is aware of what is going on since sugars that high can kill you.

packrat2 2010-03-17 18:58:28 -0500 Report

Yes at 673 I bet you did not feel good…sounds like you should be on insulin.??
you need to check back with the Doc..regards packrat2

bluemax 2010-03-24 21:29:01 -0500 Report

Oh my 673 … ask your doctor about using InnoLet insolin injectors.

kansasgirl2010 2010-04-09 16:56:24 -0500 Report

I have a second cousin that always runs high anywhere from 400-800. There has been a few times she would check her blood sugar and the meter will just say hi. She does not watch what she eats or drinks. I has having high blood sugars but the pills they have me on helps keep it down at least in the 100-160. My body might not have enough insulin to keep it down itself and probably have to go to insulin soon. I don't know though. Talk to you all soon!