A look into the eyes of the dying ....

MAYS
By MAYS Latest Reply 2010-03-05 22:39:38 -0600
Started 2010-03-01 05:12:16 -0600

Not wishing to create an atmosphere of negativity on such a wonderful and helpful site such as this and among it's many current and future members, I have informed John, of my intent to remove my seemingly controversial discussion.

My request is that everyone continue to educate and support one another concerning Diabetes and it's complications.

This is a very informative site and community which serves a very important purpose in the lives of people, both diabetic and non diabetic alike.

Any disruption of this purpose was not intended.

Mays (3/2/2010)


93 replies

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 19:21:17 -0600 Report

My desire is, and will continue to be one of educating others about diabetes and it's complications, laying claim to the community or those within it was never my desire.
Hence my removal of a discussion that others may have deemed as controversial as well as cold.
Those who visit or decide to become members of this site, upon visiting should not be exposed to negativity either by a discussion by myself or comments by others bordering on divisive and judgemental.

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-02 19:40:04 -0600 Report

A teacher in the medical field???? Hmmmmmmm! I would like to think that since I live with diabetes every day of my life, that I am an advocate for diabetes as well! I study, do research, and educate myself daily…And, I think that we, who are struggling with this disease, should be the ones to educate and inform others, support, guide and direct; offer compassion, and have empathy for what one is going through…After all anyone can have all the book knowledge in the world, but unless you live it, you really don't have the true knowledge to educate others…You don't know what someone is going through until you have walked in their shoes…

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 19:50:01 -0600 Report

Personal experience and book knowledge are both needed and necessary in teaching effectively.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 20:25:16 -0600 Report

Let's just say that the "shoes" are beginning to hurt a bit.
I'm not here to hurt anyone, I'm here to help educate others.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-03-02 20:50:59 -0600 Report

You have helped any many ways Mays. Thank-you. If you do go than I am sorry to see you go and I will miss you.
Lots of Love,
I hope you know who

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-03 04:21:44 -0600 Report

Thank you, helping one person was and is worth it all !
Continue taking care of yourself.
" Mays "

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-03-03 14:39:26 -0600 Report

I try to glean information from every post, also see the insides of a diabetic that faces similar problems that I have, which has helped me so much to feel NOT ALONE, I am not like anyone else, but now I feel like, that is OK> When I joined here, I thought that I was the ONLY ONE who had such negative feelings, thought that they were being punished by becoming diabetic, "I can't do anything right and now this diabetis proves it!" NOT!!

I love you all and can feel your support even when I am not on here, we are all differenet and interrpret each other's stories by our own feelings, which is perfectly normal. As you all know, my own feelings got a real trouncing lately, but it helped me to look at things more realistically, and now I feel stronger because of the dilemna—

I guess that we all need to be jerked upright from time to time, to help us all keep focused—I am more relaxed now, know that that helps the diabetis, my BS has been much lower the past week—surprise, surprise—-guess a lot of stuff got aired that probably should have been buried in my back yard—-whatever. Anytime anyone expresses themselves openly, that allows the possiblity of negativity to be explored—-but that can also be a good thing.

Sometimes a person NEEDS recognition to the point of sounding like a know-it-all, but that isn't wrong either, just important to that person at the time, and we are here to help others learn manners, learn about diabetis and other factors evolving during a Diabetics' life. Hurt feelings just happen to the best, or the worst of us. And can happen more easily when approached thru rigid rules or comments, lacking the warmth of experiences.

Take care, ALL, I am still learning too. Pat R

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-03-03 14:39:27 -0600 Report

I try to glean information from every post, also see the insides of a diabetic that faces similar problems that I have, which has helped me so much to feel NOT ALONE, I am not like anyone else, but now I feel like, that is OK> When I joined here, I thought that I was the ONLY ONE who had such negative feelings, thought that they were being punished by becoming diabetic, "I can't do anything right and now this diabetis proves it!" NOT!!

I love you all and can feel your support even when I am not on here, we are all different and interrpret each other's stories by our own feelings, which is perfectly normal. As you all know, my own feelings got a real trouncing lately, but it helped me to look at things more realistically, and now I feel stronger because of the dilemna—

I guess that we all need to be jerked upright from time to time, to help us all keep focused—I am more relaxed now, know that that helps the diabetis, my BS has been much lower the past week—surprise, surprise—-guess a lot of stuff got aired that probably should have been buried in my back yard—-whatever. Anytime anyone expresses themselves openly, that allows the possiblity of negativity to be explored—-but that can also be a good thing.

Sometimes a person NEEDS recognition to the point of sounding like a know-it-all, but that isn't wrong either, just important to that person at the time, and we are here to help others learn manners, learn about diabetis and other factors evolving during a Diabetics' life. Hurt feelings just happen to the best, or the worst of us. And can happen more easily when approached thru rigid rules or comments, lacking the warmth of living thru the experiences.

Take care, ALL, I am still learning too. Pat R

Susie624
Susie624 2010-03-03 19:44:13 -0600 Report

I can only hope and pray that I have never said anything to any one that has upset them or offended them in any way ,if I have I wish to appologize for it now because i have never intended to do so.

Pam from KCMO
Pam from KCMO 2010-03-02 19:02:08 -0600 Report

Well, my my my. Posted my response to your comment this morning, Mays, left for work, and now it's all gone. Probably better that way, as an earlier poster noted your negative responses to folk. I've had a hard hard day (month) and I probably don't need the headache. Or the rise in my blood pressure.

I believe you are an intelligent well-meaning person, but as I said when you first joined the site - then threatened to leave because you weren't getting the attention you wanted (my words, not yours) - your grandiosity is bothersome. My dear young man, it's not all about you. It's a community.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 16:26:18 -0600 Report

Not wishing to create an atmosphere of negativity on such a wonderful and helpful site such as this and among it's many current and future members, I have informed John, of my intent to remove my seemingly controversial discussion.

My request is that everyone continue to educate and support one another concerning Diabetes and it's complications.

This is a very informative site and community which serves a very important purpose in the lives of people, both diabetic and non diabetic alike.

Any disruption of this purpose was not intended.

Mays (3/2/2010)

judy makowski
judy makowski 2010-03-02 19:29:31 -0600 Report

Mays I don't feel your intent was to harm anyone. I do believe you have a desire to help. I wonder if something has happened in your life that leads you to believe in order to help someone you must be brutally honest. To lay out all the problems in the most horrific way to get their attention.

People will listen to someone to whom they trust. That they know will tell them the truth not coddle them into some fairy tale world where everything is wonderful. They want and need the truth but it has to be at their speed. We can't beat them over the head. No one reacts well to brutality in any form'

I believe most people want to do the best they can. Initially they are frightened and overwhelmed and so far into trying to figure out how to do everything at once that balance is lost and their confidence in their ability to handle this thing called diabetes or cancer or depression is lost .

There are a certain few who need to be handled differently. They don't get the seriousness of the disease and only give it a half hearted attempt. They may need to have this disease or any other laid out in a different manner. But everyone deserves an opportunity to have some time (I'm not talking months here) depending on their individual situation to get used to the idea .

Brendalee413
Brendalee413 2010-03-02 13:25:18 -0600 Report

I have been a diabetic since 1996, it really depresses me. I have a family so preparing certain meals just for myself is out. so I eat very small portions. I exercise when i can, but now after reading a look into the eyes of the dying, i will be forced to do some things different.

salmanda
salmanda 2010-03-02 13:18:09 -0600 Report

Mays,
I still have not read an answer to the question, "Are you a diabetic or not?" Your profile doesn't give much information so I am wondering.

I find the beginning of the discussion while possibly wanting to "help" on your terms was not made with empathy or forethought. I feel like you are here to preach to us, and not many like that approach. As Sue said, we all know what diabetes can do if we don't take care of ourselves. We do not need the morbid facts pointed out to us in this particular way. The purpose of this site is to be helpful and supportive…not preaching. It is obvious you are a well educated man who knows a great deal about life and diabetes, but please use some common sense here in how you disseminate your knowledge.

It seems I remember a while back that you weren't sure if this site was what you were looking for in a community. Perhaps your instincts were correct if these are the types of discussions we can expect from you. Your replies to others, myself included, on other discussions have been kind and supportive so please stay and continue in that vein.

Respectfully,
Sal

BLC
BLC 2010-03-02 12:34:37 -0600 Report

I just want to go ahead and say this…The other day I posted a question on DC. I was having some trouble understanding a little bit about diabetes. I recieved a reply from Mays that was hateful and hurtful. I read it to my husband and told him "I am deleating my DC accout." He persuaded me not to reminding me of the dear friends I had made here on DC. This was a particuarly bad day for me because I had suffered from several lows and highs and didn't know what was going on with my body. I blamed my insulin because I could think of no other answer. (Actually I had an abcessed tooth and had a root canal today) I am feeling better. I was also stuggling with my job because I had found out some unethical practices had been taking place at my work place and I was being sent to clean up that mess, that I didn't make. As always I came to DC looking for friendship kindness and comfort. I was hurt and bewildered when Mays implied to me that I did not take life seriously. My life is so important to me as I am raising a little boy (my only child) who I adore. If I were not here he would have nobody left except my husband, who is a wonderful father…but children need a Mommy. My whole purpose in posting what I did on the other discussion was to prolong my life that I love. Mays, rudeness and coldheartedness may seem like a "wake-up call" to you but to some it is discouraging and can even be damaging. I implore you Mays to think before you speak. Be sensitive to those around you. Thanks…BLC

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-03-02 12:42:44 -0600 Report

I am relieved you decided to stay, BLC! This site IS about support and kindness; however, someone is working solely to make the site about them. Please do not be discouraged by others' egomania; it is best to ignore them and surround yourself with those who do not have an agenda!

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-02 12:59:44 -0600 Report

Hi BLC,
I am glad that your husband convinced you to stay…I know how you feel because at one point there were several thinking of leaving the site, myself included, due to the rudeness of a particular person/persons…I however, didn't want to leave because I have met so many wonderful people here, and have made friends with so many…Scaring someone to death is not, in my book, a wake-up call…Understanding, support, and helping someone educate themself, I think, will make more of an impact on their life than anything else…We all know, and understand the seriousness of Diabetes…I remember when I was first diagnosed, the first thing that went through my mind was, "I am going to die!" I had no clue as to what to do or where to turn for some encouragement…I needed to talk to someone who could tell me that Diabetes is not a death sentence, that there are people who live very long healthy lives…Yes, we know we have to take care of ourselves…Hang in there BLC…I don't want you to go anywhere, I would miss you… Hugs, and love to you, Sue

BLC
BLC 2010-03-02 13:06:29 -0600 Report

You are so sweet. Thanks Sue. It is because of people like you that I LOVE and am staying at DC. Lots of love. BLC

ptsparkle
ptsparkle 2010-03-02 13:09:54 -0600 Report

BLC, Glad you are staying. There are many here who are willing and able to help. I have learned a bunch since coming here, and have a bunch more to learn.
You hang in there girl!!
Jim

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-03-02 15:41:18 -0600 Report

Sue! That's exactly how I felt too. It was so hard to figure out what to do. And this site with the support was what I needed to keep me semi sane!!!

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 15:54:27 -0600 Report

That is not true, I do answer questions and respond to comments made when I feel that a response is necessary, to each individual, not to the masses as a whole unless I am saying " Thank You, " in general.
" Mays "

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-03-02 16:02:55 -0600 Report

You were asked if you were in the medical field. You didn't answer. You were asked if you are diabetic. You haven't answered. You seem to like to side step anything of the personal issue. That is your choice, but understand that is will make people distrust you.

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-02 19:55:57 -0600 Report

I refuse to take any advice from anyone who will not answer a simple question regarding themselves…If they are that secretive, what gives them the right to delve into other peoples lives and give them any kind of advice…Doesn't make sense…I wouldn't trust them…No way, No how! If you were writing a book, MAYS, it might be different, then again even authors share information about themselves, but this is a community of friends who want to get to know one another, and share with eachother…We are family, my brothers and my sisters, and me…etc etc Wish there were some musical notes on here…LOL

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-03 03:53:31 -0600 Report

Explaining to someone who is a type 1 diabetic that going off of insulin is suicidal was hurtful ?, I would think that it was moreso a realistic response, type 1 diabetics do not have the flexibility that type 2 diabetics have, one mistake can be life threatening to a type 1 diabetic, reread my response to your discussion if you think it's hurtful.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 11:18:57 -0600 Report

An article that is misinterpreted, misunderstood and used as an edict to pass judgement, personal responsibility, complications and death seem to be off limit subjects with many, yet they are inevitable facts of life for diabetics.

Yet many want the easy way out instead of doing what is necessary to combat diabetes on their end, Awareness, Acceptance, Education and Action !

Or maybe if you ignore it (diabetes), talk nicely about it, excuse it and the possible complications of it, for the sake of being sensative it will cease to exist, maybe even cure itself, or just go away for good !

Does Awareness, Education and Action, or Kindness, Sensitivity and Compassion combat diabetes ?
A great discussion if people can answer honestly.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-03-02 12:11:45 -0600 Report

So, you aren't diabetic! I think all of us need to quit talking to this imposter! Hey, what happened to your alter ego, Genie? Is he the diabetic? Guess you retired him because he was not bringing you the attention you so desperately crave! LOL

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-03 04:18:12 -0600 Report

Alter egos ?
My posts are always me, I don't care about anons or hiding, why hide when you have something helpful to offer, makes no sense to me.
Are non diabetic doctors imposters, who said that I was or was not diabetic ?

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 03:55:03 -0600 Report

Life is uncertain, but death is guaranteed.
The payment for life is death, it comes to us all.

( Appreciation of life is vital to peace and happiness )

The discussion is not about judging anyone.
I never pass judgement, only the faultless can pass judgement, whether it's the system or the individual.
The discussion was about the appreciation of life, from the outside looking in, I have seen and comforted many dying and at some point you force yourself to become numb to it, if only for your sanity ( ask a doctor or anyone closely associated with death ) when you are powerless to help those who can only say," help me " with their eyes, then you will understand my message, which is appreciate your life !

It's amazing how you mention death and people become offended, skipping words and missing meanings, yet in the end death comes to us all, we have no choice in the matter, we can only try to delay it, yet most diabetics hasten it by not taking the proper steps to delay or prevent the possible complications of diabetes by maintaining their glucose levels.

Simply amazing !

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-02 11:06:36 -0600 Report

MAYS, we don't want to talk about death, we want to talk about life, and living…Yes, death is a part of life…I think with our disease, we need education, and understanding from family and friends…We don't need to be scared to death when we are struggling with a chronic illness…Talk about living and having a long healthy life, it is possible, you know! The things you say, just makes someone want to give up! I don't consider the things you post as encouraging…It is very depressing! And, you never answered the question as to whether or not you have diabetes…

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-02 14:08:09 -0600 Report

MAYS, you have been very kind and supportive to me in your replies to my posts, the illness of my husband, for example, and I appreciate that…As far as trying to control our glucose levels, I think we are all trying to do that as best we can on a daily basis! If you are a Diabetic, you can surely appreciate that…You keep insinuating that we as Diabetics are not taking proper care of ourselves, and all we have to look forward to are horrible complications, and death! That makes my BS go up! It is very stressful to me to read these posts…Guess I will just have to stop reading them… Respectfully, ~ Sue

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-02 14:19:57 -0600 Report

Life is uncertain, but death is guaranteed.

Yes, as I have heard all my life; there are two things in life that are certain, death, and taxes…

My mother use to always say, "there are only three things that I HAVE to do, and that is live, die, and live until I die!

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 01:41:02 -0600 Report

What you witness should make you appreciate life, cherish it and take it seriously !

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-02 14:16:32 -0600 Report

Who is saying that we don't appreciate life, cherish it and take it seriously???? No one that I can see, but you MAYS, and you don't even know who we are! We all know that we are going to die someday, but have some feelings here…Death is going to come to all of us, but we are trying to live right now!

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-03 04:10:09 -0600 Report

Proper diabetic care and living are all that I have ever posted, has anything other than that been explored on my behalf ?
I leave one's personal life where it is, with them, I never asked anything outside of diabetic questions and they were few and far apart if asked, i went strictly on whatever info was posted, no one can say that I ever asked a personal question of them, their life or otherwise, I was never curious about anyones personal life in any way, nor did I give personal advice to anyone.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-03-02 00:23:12 -0600 Report

I too have witnessed many dying, all ages, when I worked at the hospital. One lady I had set with her in her home after I retired. She had given up, quit eating—period, in two weeks she was fading—-they called me to stay with her. This little lady and I had had many good moments, and also aggravating ones over 2 years,lay on her hospital bed, with her eyes closed, I layed my arm across her frail body and started singing softly, if I stopped she got a bit restless, but would settle down again as I kept on singing—-and that is how she left this earth, early the next morning, and I had such a feeling of PEACE that I was able to DO something to help ease this fiesty little lady, and friend, from this world.

We FELT each other's presence, no eye exchange was needed, we had already done that—-Pat R

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 01:44:51 -0600 Report

The appreciation was felt both ways and thus never forgotten, did she have an impact on your life ?
(No need to answer, your comment answers that question)

rankearl
rankearl 2010-03-01 20:38:21 -0600 Report

mays i have looked into the eyes of someone dying it was my father he didnt choose to have cancer just like none of us choose to have diabetes i personally would appreciate the next time you make a post that you could use alitlle EMPATHY thanks julie

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-01 20:56:39 -0600 Report

Can the same be asked of Diabetes and other chronic diseases ?
When a rose is picked for it's beauty, doesn't the stem contain thorns ?
" Mays "

rankearl
rankearl 2010-03-01 21:36:53 -0600 Report

when i see your post i often wonder if you are diabetic?? when you make post like this your are judging yourself too arent you!!!

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 01:28:32 -0600 Report

I judge no one in life, to do so allows you to place some one in chains or to set them free in your mind, neither of which should be granted by one over another due to our short comings as humans based on faulty judgement.

We sometimes fail to remember that the rainbow follows the storm, although we may wish otherwise.

Many fear reality because of the honesty that accompanies it, the two were never meant to be separated.
" Mays "

Danni-the-diabetic
Danni-the-diabetic 2010-03-01 21:03:15 -0600 Report

Julie, I am sorry to hear about your father. My friend for years had to watch her mom die of cancer when she was 14, so I have seen how rough it is.
((Hugs)) Danni

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 01:33:03 -0600 Report

Did she develope a greater appreciation for life inspite of her loss or was life itself at fault ( in her mind ) ?

Danni-the-diabetic
Danni-the-diabetic 2010-03-02 06:32:34 -0600 Report

Life itself is at fault; she never dealt with it until she was 20. Her life was hard after that with living situations, when she moved out on her own she had a breakdown and had to be hospitalized…she has gone through alot in life and stuff continues to smack her in the face, she is the sweetest Chick I know and it's sad to watch. I can't blame her for thinking that way.

rankearl
rankearl 2010-03-02 16:13:34 -0600 Report

again you are not god good luck with all that though im really starting to feel sorry for you peace be with you

Susie624
Susie624 2010-03-03 19:28:44 -0600 Report

looking into the eyes of the dying is not always possible I know.My mother had diabetes for years among other illnesses,she suffered a stroke in October of 1999 and another three days later that put her into a coma until Feb.14 2000.She never woke up so you see.

judy makowski
judy makowski 2010-03-01 21:55:17 -0600 Report

Julie I am sorry about what you went through with your dad. It is something that unless you have done it it cannot be explained.

I must say though that I agree a little empathy can go a long way in encouraging anyone dealing with a chronic condition.

Yes people need to know the truth about the disease or condition they are going to be living with for the rest of their lives. They need the truth but the truth can be given and still leave the person with feelings of hope and the idea that they can get more information that will help them to deal with their lives in a new way. Scaring people to death and overwhelming them at the very beginning can be extremely detrimental. I know everyone is different and what is that old saying "different strokes for different folks" but it would have totally turned me off. I would have been left with the feeling of over whelming hopelessness. That I couldn't possibly take everything in at once. Given a period of time to adjust and then to investigate and learn with support and encouragement seems as if it would work better. If the person didn't accept responsibility for themselves after a reasonable length of time then more graphic measures would be called for.

As for looking into a dieing persons eyes and seeing nothing I don't necessarily agree with that. Yes it is a journey we all must take and in the end we are alone. But what leads up to the end and the tools we are given and the support we are given can make a big difference. I have seen it many times. Once again empathy can go a long way. I'm not saying sympathy or pity. There is a time and a place for everything. Sometimes the hard line is the way to go and sometimes it isn't.

Sorry for the rambling can't seem to say what I want to in fewer words tonight.

Unfortunately I have had to much experience in this area and I have seen people frightened and terrified. There are stages to go through just like everything else we do in life but it doesn't have to be thrown at us in such a way as to take away all hope and consideration for the human spirit.

Pam from KCMO
Pam from KCMO 2010-03-02 03:14:52 -0600 Report

I, like Julie, have looked into the eyes of someone dying. In this case, it was my mother - a smoker who died of emphysema. Would you judge her, too, Mays? She lived her life as best she could, brutalized by an alcoholic father, with an alcoholic mother who abandoned her.

Her eyes as she lay dying were not cold or dark or soul-less. It was a hard death, but her last words to her children and grandchildren from her morphine-induced haze were, "I'm so happy. But I've got to go now…night night." (which is what she always said to us as she tucked us in when we were kids.) She died shortly thereafter.

Would you judge her, Mays? A woman who overcame her own dysfunctional childhood and raised four children, each of whom knew - without a doubt - that she loved them. A woman with a great laugh that was heard often. A woman of great love and compassion. Who cut her life short because she smoked. So her death was dark and soulless? Give me a break.

And have YOU actually looked into the eyes of a dying person?

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 03:42:34 -0600 Report

The discussion is not about judging anyone.
I never pass judgement, only the faultless can pass judgement, whether it's the system or the individual.
The discussion was about the appreciation of life, from the outside looking in, I have seen and comforted many dying and at some point you force yourself to become numb to it, if only for your sanity ( ask a doctor or anyone closely associated with death ) when you are powerless to help those who can only say help me with their eyes, you will understand my message, appreciate your life !

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-02 10:45:36 -0600 Report

Bless you Pam! I think that if we live long enough, we all will at some point in time, look into those eyes…Not only have I witnessed many of my dying patients, but I watched my father, my grandparents, my mother, and many other family members take their last breath…It is not an easy thing to do..MAYS' posts really upset me…Sounds like a very unempathetic and uncaring person, with regard to other peoples feelings…

MAYS
MAYS 2010-03-02 11:03:33 -0600 Report

An article that is misinterpreted, misunderstood and used as an edict to pass judgement, personal responsibility, complications and death seem to be off limit subjects with many, yet they are inevitable facts of life for diabetics.

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-03-02 16:08:42 -0600 Report

Death is an inevitable fact of life for everyone…Not just for people with diabetes…None of us are promised tomorrow…We are all given a cup, and we have to sip from it, and make the best of each day we are given…

rankearl
rankearl 2010-03-02 16:17:04 -0600 Report

pam when you lose a loved one you move forward in life with a leson learned love always come first ((HUGS)) julie

Danni-the-diabetic
Danni-the-diabetic 2010-03-02 19:11:46 -0600 Report

I am so sorry to hear about your mother Pam. I started crying when I read that - I just can't imagine. And the fact that she overcame such a traumatic childhood and raised a family is so admirable.
((Hugs))
Danni

BLC
BLC 2010-03-02 19:48:41 -0600 Report

It sounds like your mother was an amazing lady Pam. What comfort knowing in her last moments here on earth she was so happy to be with you and her family. I'm not sure how others here feel but I don't feel death on this earth is the end. There is more after we leave this old world.

Pam from KCMO
Pam from KCMO 2010-03-03 03:33:51 -0600 Report

I agree, BLC - I believe that death is but a new beginning of something we cannot know. And thank you, Danni, for your kind words. I was blessed to have her in my life as long as I did. The passage of years makes it easier, but I still miss her.