Riddle me this ....

By MAYS Latest Reply 2010-08-20 22:41:34 -0500
Started 2010-02-23 12:09:03 -0600

If everything that I tell you is the truth,
and then I tell you a lie,
what does that make it, the truth or a lie ?

A highly debatable, never ending issue until one gives in and walks away !

But you cannot walk away from this and I'll explain why.

Small electrical impulses from your brain travel along your nerves, throughout your entire nervous system continously stimulating your muscles and organs allowing them to function, and function properly.

We associate nerves with the sensation of touch (or aggravation), but it goes much further than that.
Without that stimulation properly communicating with everything within your body, you could not exist.

No physical movement, no breathing, eating, hearing, no heartbeat, nothing, no existence.

If you don't control your glucose level as a diabetic and you begin to develope Diabetic Neauropathy you run the true risk of developing major organ damage and possible organ failure.
By the time you feel the pain, if any, the damage may be done.

If you can't feel it, how would you know ?

When your feet and hands, toes and fingers began to tingle and go numb,
take it seriously and see your doctor before it's too late, or else you may never know because you wont feel it !





Now about that riddle …

15 replies

Guardianstone 2010-08-20 17:16:10 -0500 Report

Hello, I have had a few strokes, and have had the right half of my body painfully numb. I know this is a contradiction in terms, but the numbness is constant and if anything, even air brushing against my skin it hurts. Since begining type II treatment, it has gotten worse. The doctors are confused, all the tests conflict.
I understand their confusion, or maybe it's just the stroke/diabetic combo. The strokes hit about 1993. My neuroligist has tried several different meds, nothing has helped. So I have no idea what is causing what. The BS was diagnosed about 2007, and the right arm is worse.
With very low income, and no insurance, I am at my wits end. (Yes, I have tried many (free or low cost) rx companies. Neither my husband or I am able to work(he receives SSDI disability). I don't know where to turn. Even the charities are broke.
Any Ideas out there?

Guardian stone

Ralph 2010-02-24 21:58:44 -0600 Report

The truth is the truth all else is lies…
I have some of that numbness some due the the type 2 diabetes and the rest due to damaged nerves going down my right leg from a bad back which I had operated on back in 1999. When I go out hiking if I fell that I brush up on something I have to look to see if I am bleeding. Sometimes I don't even feel the brushing up on things and find blood on my leg. It payes to keep an eye on things if you can not feel as you once use to.

MAYS 2010-02-24 22:04:25 -0600 Report

I agree with you.
When one sense fails, you must rely more so on the others to compensate for this loss.
With neuropathy, be very careful with your feet,
you do not want to risk injury or infection to them which could possibly lead to amputation !
" Mays "

Danni-the-diabetic 2010-02-23 19:55:37 -0600 Report

My toes have been sort of numb for a few years, but didn't think anything about it and had no clue what neuropathy was until I was diagnosed with it last summer. Now my Dr. is checking kidney/liver function, but I do get uti's and not feel it, don't know if that's associated of not. It's a scary thought :(

Crashnot 2010-02-23 20:51:31 -0600 Report

At your age Danni, I'd for sure get on the vitamins. Get the book at Amazon. Well worth the $15 just for the vitamin advice, and there is a world of stuff on everything else like nutrition, exercise, ahem-alcohol, and the works.

Danni-the-diabetic 2010-02-23 20:55:40 -0600 Report

What exactly is the book called? I take vitamins, but don't know if they are counter-acting eachother; I take a prenatal; B6, B12 & C and Potassium Gluconate. I just read what's on the bottle and like what I read so I take it and I take prenatals because my roommate didn't take hers much when she was pregnant and it's a good source of multiple vitamins.

Crashnot 2010-02-23 20:57:51 -0600 Report

Oops, sorry, thought I'd put it up above. It's "Reversing Diabetes" by Julian Whitaker M.D. They sell it right here and on Amazon.

Crashnot 2010-02-23 21:02:12 -0600 Report

As a note, if you go with his program it will mean about 30 pills a day. I tried buying my own, and finally discovered it was cheaper and less pills (14) to buy the packets he sells. Google "Forward Plus vitamins" or go to www.drwhitaker.com Many health sites sell his mix. You're probably on a tight budget, so look at the levels he suggests for each vitamin type, and figure out which will be most important to add to a multi. The B's, Omegas (builds those little brains), D and a few other would be my first priority.

Crashnot 2010-02-23 21:14:01 -0600 Report

I'm getting silly here, must be late. I think I've read too much into your note above. Clarify in I'm wrong— you are not pregnant, but are using all the vitamins your pregnant, drinking roomie didn't use when she was pregnant. Either that or we really do need to get you on track here!

Danni-the-diabetic 2010-02-23 21:46:18 -0600 Report

Thanks for the info. Yeah, you are right on track! I'm not pregnant, yet taking the prenatals that my drinking roommate didn't take (she took kids gummy vitamins lol), but don't worry bout the kiddos (1 and 2mnths), she stays sober and whenever Im around the 2mnth old baby girl I take 100% care of her :)

Deborah L
Deborah L 2010-02-23 12:55:28 -0600 Report

For the riddle? I refused to take philosophy in college. LOL
That's what scares me now - that I already have permanent neuropathy in all areas of my body from a different condition and now with the diabetes, I may get continuing nerve damage without knowing it. And it can occur for some people without any symptoms until it is too late. I'm studying food plans and everything I can find now to get this under control and delay the complications as long as possilbe.
I'm also starting to get angry at that doctor who told me I'm not diabetic. I went back through my lab work and found a fasting blood glucose level of 151 from October. Two other doctors have told me I am and that has motivatated me more. If I had listened to only the other one, I may not have gotten so serious about self care until later. And I always pay a price for procrastinating.

Crashnot 2010-02-23 14:21:53 -0600 Report

Hi Deborah,

Probably won't make a difference, but I had incredible responses to treating my neuropathy with a huge vitamin regime I found in the book "Reversing Diabetes" by Julian Whitaker.

His stance is that as sugar destroys your circulation, your nerves are starved of nutrients and die off, creating neuropathy.

It turned out my neuropathy was not from 41 years of type 1 diabetes, but developing Celiac Disease, in which the lining of your guts is killed off by your immune system, as it attacks the guts in response to gluten from wheat, barley and rye. So my body was being starved of nutrients as the small intestine could not absorb them.

I started his regime three years ago, and last year had no symptoms. The shooting pains were gone! Somehow the damage had been reversed once the nutrients could reach my cells. It was a full 10 months later that I finally got the diagnosis of celiac and was able to remove the toxic glutens from my diet, allowing my intestines to start healing and do their work again.

So, may be a small chance, but if I was in that situation again, I'd be heaping on the vitamins at a moment's notice! I've continued his regime just to maintain my health in hopes of staving off complications of diabetes.

Good luck!


MAYS 2010-02-23 14:39:11 -0600 Report

I love and appreciate your response and offering advice to others based on your personal experiences .
" Mays "

MAYS 2010-02-23 14:58:41 -0600 Report

You have been dealing with a great deal, yet you have not stopped researching, looking back, evaluating and starting that process over and over again which is good.
Hopefully your case of neuropathy hasn't progressed to the point of severe damage in your internal organs.
Don't stop researching, to do so means that you are satisfied up to that point, I'm sure that there is so much more to learn on the subject, even if it is for personal reasons.
" Mays "

That riddle always irked me … (LOL)

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