PISS N MOAN #8 ~continued fun~

By Deb-G Latest Reply 2010-02-24 13:11:42 -0600
Started 2010-02-19 11:25:04 -0600

a.k.a. "Moan & Piss, Spit & Groan, Piss N Vinegar" and darn I think I missed one but there's an example of my short memory! LOL

139 replies

Anonymous 2010-02-22 11:27:05 -0600 Report

come on everyone, let's wish her back, maybe even beg a little !

jayabee52 2010-02-22 23:12:44 -0600 Report

Genie, Yes, we asked Renee to stay with us when she had decided to leave, and she did reconsider and decided to stay and return when she was ready. I'm GLAD she's not gone for good.

But she feels the need for some time away, and like a good family we should respect that IMO.

imsuzie2 2010-02-23 04:56:45 -0600 Report

IMHO I agree with James, Danni, Tammy, Daniel and Roy. Pat and Renee will be back and join in at their own paces. No need to rush them, they need their space, and as their loving family, we need to allow them to take it.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-23 08:51:16 -0600 Report

Thank you from us both. I have a feeling that this has been one of those "learning experiences" for us both, and it does take time. I will take the liberty of speaking for us both, thank you to ALL for your support! Pat R

Anonymous 2010-02-22 11:24:20 -0600 Report

if i wished hard enough, would you come back soon ?
like uh, 5 minutes, ok 30 minutes, come on back, please !

dietcherry 2010-02-22 11:16:39 -0600 Report

Hello Everyone. Well, I had asked Roy to do this for me, but realized I needed to be a bigger person and put on my big girl britches and do it myself. I feel so low in spirit and am terribly sorry for the discomfort I caused all of you! I apologized to Pat privately and am going to take a break from here, on everyone's advice. I hope to return soon with a new perspective! Bless you all for your suppert of Pat and I! Renee :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-22 12:34:37 -0600 Report

To ALL, I accepted Renee's apology. and I too am sorry for the "fallout" and did not mean to hurt anyone's feelings, I was just trying to protect my own feelings and integrity. To me, there was no right or wrong, but hurt feelings on both sides, only now I will try to not talk back as all will think of us how they will. I have always enjoyed Renee's posts, and she will be back—we are both just drained. So time out is good for us both.

Thank you, sincerely, Pat R

Monalisa 2010-02-22 15:51:34 -0600 Report

Thank you so much for talking things out, like all great families we have our ups and downs and may this be a learning experience for all of us…HUGS…LISA

Deb-G 2010-02-22 19:37:29 -0600 Report

Indeed…You both are wonderful people…I'm sooooooo glad you were able to work it out…and Renee I hope you are not gone too long :)

xoxox to you both!

Pam from KCMO
Pam from KCMO 2010-02-22 19:54:58 -0600 Report

So glad you both worked things through and that peace once again reigns. Take the time you need and know that we'll be glad when you return.

Pat, I'll miss your updates on Jack and the church ladies (I still have half a mind to come down there and give your hubby a piece of my mind). And Renee, not reading delightful phrases like 'putting on my big girl britches' as well as your delightful sense of humor will leave a hole.

So don't stay away too long. :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-22 22:49:02 -0600 Report

Well, if you really want to know, our church is having a Lent studies on Sun afternoon, and I managed to express my own interrpretations of certain Bible verses, was a bit of tenseness—THEN they began to understand where I had been trying to come from all of these years, only because I NOW KNOW too—-and they agreed—-how easy it is to overreact to scriptures, try too hard, go overboard and take things too literal—-and the air cleared—I was not really mad at THEM but the things that they had been accusing me of all of these years, that were not true—-The Light Dawned, and we separated as FRIENDS not clones—

Today Jack got onto my case AGAIN, think he has been forced inside for too many days this winter—-started to yell at me, I just raised my hand and told him quietly, that I didn't blame him for getting aggravated at me, as I can't get as much done as HE would like, I told him that I was getting stronger—-and could do more each day, so to be patient and TOGETHER we could get the basics done. He grinned like that is what he had been waiting on, me to step up to the plate, and HOld my Own—-I KNOW but I have been so TIRED, just wanted to be cared for while I healed, but think that things are on the up and up—-Thanks to all for your continuing support!! Pat R

jayabee52 2010-02-22 23:06:44 -0600 Report

But I suspect Pat, that with Jack you will have to keep doing that repeatedly. I suspect he got used to the tired weak Pat, and the new emotionally stronger Pat may take some getting used to for him. How he relates to you may take some time to change, so just be ready to QUIETLY but FIRMLY stand your ground with him. After a while his "challenges" to the new Pat will become fewer and fewer. That will be nice.

imsuzie2 2010-02-23 04:53:33 -0600 Report

Renee, I will miss your wit and insights. Don't stay away too long.

Pat, I'm glad things are falling into place for you. Sunday you will be telling us what a grand time you had at church with all of your new friends.


Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-23 08:48:32 -0600 Report

Thank you, Jay—I have been a "work in progress" for a few months now, and it is getting easier, feel that I have the right to stand up for myself, had always thought that HIS actions were the result of me, as a person—-NOT—but it took a long time. I am getting more relaxed in his presnce now, my therapist says it just takes practice. She also said that I would become a softer person—-guess that is NOT to be confused with a weaker person—-another fine line there. Thanks for your support as I forge ahead. Pat R

Danni-the-diabetic 2010-02-21 19:50:35 -0600 Report

QUESTION: Wrong place to post, but what is the A1C chart. for example, my A1C level was 8.7, what does that mean my average was over the past three months?

Ok, well Im off to put pink highlights in my hear!! Wish me luck that I dont look horrible.
:) Danni

2010-02-21 14:20:44 -0600 Report

Maybe we can get back on track about a diabetic issue. Usually when I work out I can drop my BS number at least 20 points-I love it wellllll today I doubled my 1k run to a 2k run. OMG…I hurt…I hurt like I was beat by somebody I owed money..I thought dragging myself to the porch no problem (gasp) My numbers should really be low this morning..well don't you know my darn numbers went up 60 point WTHECK????!!!!!! okay yes my heart felt like it was in my throat and even my eyelashes hurt BUT i hadn't had anything to drink or eat so what's up with the High BS numbers…I was so pissed I fell out on the bed in a huff…What The Heck??????/lolol

cc9 2010-02-21 18:11:27 -0600 Report

maybe your liver made more insuliin to meet the added physical demand. dont know. maybe check it an hour or so later and see what happens. did you have a protein shake before you ran?

jayabee52 2010-02-21 18:47:16 -0600 Report

Of course you know that BG #s go UP when you are stressed or in pain. So it stands to reason (at least in my mind) that doubling your usual 1K run put stress on your body which resulted in PAIN, both of which elevates BG #s.

Maybe instead of doubling the run, increase the distance gradually over days or weeks until you reach the full 2K..

I suspect you'll be feeling the effects for the next couple days. I wish you can get over it quick.

Deborah L
Deborah L 2010-02-21 22:18:13 -0600 Report

No, I didn't know…still new, still learning? Thank you.
I'm in chronic severe pain all the time. Is that part of why my sugar levels are increasing? Is that accumulative or only during the worse times. I'm on pain meds and don't always know when I'm hurting the most, so is there special things I should be doing other than what I've already changed to control my BS better since I can't tell?
I also have severe neuropathy, no feelings in hands, feet, etc. from other medical condition years ago. I can't feel even totally hot water. As I learn more, I'm beginning to wonder how I'm going to be in touch with changes in my body. Everything connected and affected by this and so much to learn.

Danni-the-diabetic 2010-02-21 13:04:37 -0600 Report

Okay, with my blonde hair now, should I get pink or blue highlights?? Ha!Ha! I'm kind of serious - no! I am serious :)

Monalisa 2010-02-21 13:24:44 -0600 Report

I love the deep fire red ones!! Oh and the purple ones, my daughter in-law had the purple ones but under her blonde hair and when she moved you gould see them… I loved that look!!

donna13 2010-02-21 15:45:08 -0600 Report

Hey do you think I would look good with purple or blue highlights in my (very) white hair?

Monalisa 2010-02-21 15:51:27 -0600 Report

Hahahaha!! Interesting! Donna, they wouldn't be highlights but low lights!…I think it depends on how you use them…and the tone you give them…But go for it!

Danni-the-diabetic 2010-02-21 15:59:30 -0600 Report

Well I was about to do both, but chickened out and went with the pink! OMGoodness, what a mess! I'll try to get pics so y'all can have a good laugh :)

Deb-G 2010-02-21 21:26:56 -0600 Report

I LOVE pink…I put pink in my hair sometimes too..but the kind that washes out… :) and not alot! lol

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-21 12:54:12 -0600 Report

Renee, Please don't go, I have also enjoyed your posts, until my name came up—-But I have taken a few days to think and sort thru all that has been said. Anyone will overeact when their name and comments, are mentioned, especially bringing up my past P @M to hit me with—

But I am a stronger person now, thanks in part to you—-and now I KNOW that I am not the kind of person that I FELT that you thought that I was. So I will try and relax, and IGNORE comments, knowing in my own heart, that they aren't true. And let it go, it is rough to be waking up from a numbing depression, but I am, now to just get my tongue and fingers to respond. I was just shocked to think that you thought so little of me, then wish me a "good day".

Enough said, I think we both have been hurt enough so let it all go, and I hope that you continue to help others. I will continue to take time out—-I need to recuperate, suggest that you do too…I guess that there was no right or wrong in this mess. Just be more cautious of personal comments, Renee. Best Regards, Pat R

dietcherry 2010-02-21 13:44:22 -0600 Report

Pat, I am leaving, in part because of our disagreement but also because it is just time for me to move on. I may have been tough on you in posts, but after reading your posts ripping me and the people around you to shreds, I thought that this was a language you spoke. I must say that it was alway a real downer to read your mean comments about your poor husband, your kids, the church bitches (your words), your doctors, your former co-workers, etc. Please don't accuse me of throwing this in your face, because I would not even have been aware of it all if not for you telling us. It makes me wonder how you speak of us to all of them. I suggest you take your own advice and "be more cautious of personal comments". Have a nice day.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-21 14:04:33 -0600 Report

I had thought that this was a place to VENT, yes, EVERYTHING and EVERYONE was getting to me—I admit that, that is why I wrote, to have a safe place to open up and get RID of it all so I could think better—A NEUTRAL place—-where no one needed to know how I was FEELING, did not know how else to get rid of it, I don't get to see my therapist often enough, I KNOW—I have grown so much on this site—-even thru the negativity—I was NOT PROUD of how I felt, one reason I was trying to get rid of it—but I sure did NOT intend to rip anyone else, until you started on me about being manipulative—-that did hit my gut—

But I wish you well too, but I know that you don't see your part in this mess—so, will let it go, and try to take time out, BEFORE I respond the next time—-I just have this streak that wants to make things RIGHT, not one-sided, but guess that is life! Whatever you decide, that is up to you, I have nothing more to say. We will miss your cheery side. Best Regards, Pat R

imsuzie2 2010-02-22 01:47:31 -0600 Report

Renee, I am the one to call the church ladies, so much that if Pat did, that is my fault. Just that. LOL

jpegram 2010-02-21 14:11:49 -0600 Report

hey cherr don't leave. you funny, girl! You was always nice to everone and she turn you into her. Shes the one call us negroes, don't wanna hear how she come from diffrent time and don know no better huh she know better. you right girl an she wrong

Roy531 2010-02-21 14:54:03 -0600 Report

Maybe I should stay out of this but I feel the need. The both of you may hate me later. I thought we were adults but the two of you are acting like children that need to be taken out behind the wood shed. Everytime one of you post something about what has happened you make a dig at the other. What you need to do is let bygones be bygone apologize to each other wothout bringing it up, shake hands and hug each other. Sure we make mistakes, we are not perfect but we should be adult enough to be able to say I'm sorry and move on and not bring it up again. I have said my piece. I am sorry for the both of you. I use to enjoy this site but not so much anymore because of your unforgiving attitudes. Sorry if I have made you mad. Forgive me Please Roy

Monalisa 2010-02-21 15:09:00 -0600 Report

I totally agree with Roy!!! Please remember "WE ARE FAMILY!!!"
In what real family have you seen that there were never misunderstandings and fights? And you know what? The reconciliaton part of the fight is what makes a relationship stronger…Please think about it!!! Both of you Renee and Pat are special members of our family unique in your own way…and I know that deep inside you, you have the gift of forgiveness and tolerance.
I ask of you to talk in private mode, reach an understanding a happy medium and then pass the page and go on…
Group Hug…Pam, Renee and Lisa

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-21 15:23:06 -0600 Report

I agree, sorry, I am an only child, not that I am using this as an excuse, and am learning how to DEFEND myself—-yes, we are a big family, and all of you have helped me to grow, and come alive—-and I have appreciated ALL of you. And I have BRAGGED about all of you, especially to those who have said negative things to my face—-letting them know that not all have such a low opinion of me. I will say no more—it just seems to add fuel. It is OK, Roy, your name was not tangled up with negativity, call me a child, guess I am, go ahead and enjoy the rest of the sites. It is the way that it is. Pat R

tholz 2010-02-20 11:30:31 -0600 Report

My grandma passed away at 230am this morning. I didnt get to see her like I wanted to. I had no gas to get there. I am so ———mad at my hubby right now I could exploe. He has money any dam time he wants it. And where the h—- is he right now off to a friends. So ya he put gas in car so—- what it doesnt do me any good now. I just want to die to

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-20 12:49:54 -0600 Report

We all love you, Tammy, so sorry for your loss—-know it HURTS that you couldn't be there for her like you had wished, regardless of the reason. Some men just don't know how to give support——-I still regret the fact that I just couldn't be there for my mom—-I had lost so much sleep my mind was fractured, told her I was going home to get some rest, and she died a few hours later, and I felt like I had betrayed her. I am still working on getting thru the guilt of not having done EVERYTHING I THOUGHT that I should do—-forgive yourself first, and know in your own heart, that you were there for her, in her heart too! She knows of your circumstances, and KNOWS that in your way, you were at her bedside! God Bless you, Tammy!! Pat R

cc9 2010-02-20 19:51:32 -0600 Report

oh tammy that no good sob. poor excuse of a man. i am sorry that he robbed you of your chance to see your grandma. i think someone said somewhere that you need to keep aside money when you shop for groceries.

2010-02-20 19:59:46 -0600 Report

My nanna use to call it mad money. My mother use to hide a few dollars here and there; thats the only way we had things or she could have gas to get to work. My father was a sorry excuse for the male species. I still do that now..two dollars here and three dollars there. I dont have to hide it in my own house but its just a habit.

tholz 2010-02-20 21:46:04 -0600 Report

Oh ya I use to do that and had spent it all. I now have 150 he doesnt know I have. I did have 500 but I got tatto and stuff for new car. If I had money I could of when early in the week. Hubby is a tight wad

imsuzie2 2010-02-21 01:09:43 -0600 Report

Maybe the tattoo could have waited until you had more mad money. You could have used that for gas money.

evbaker 2010-02-20 06:06:09 -0600 Report

Not a P&M but not sure how to start a new discussion lol. Went to see my endo on Wed. Didn't much care for her but evidently she knows what she is doing. Since then I have really cut down on my carbs. Only eating 2 for each meal. She took me off the humalog and put me back on byetta and my BS's have never been better. Thurs. night after dinner it was 76, Fri. morning it was 156 (my fault since I didn't use the lantus thurs. night), Fri. after dinner 93 and this morning 109. Since seeing her and breaking the treadmill back out I have lost 5 pounds. So maybe just maybe I will keep her around for a little bit longer.

imsuzie2 2010-02-20 06:44:56 -0600 Report

Good job, Ev. An inspiration!

If you click on Discussions on the left navigational bar, when you get to the list of discussions, near the top of the page is a yellow box that says "start a new discussion" or something like that…have at it!

jayabee52 2010-02-19 23:19:06 -0600 Report

Maybe this might offend some too - but I laughed out loud when I read it

A woman in her 40's went to a plastic surgeon for a face-lift.

The surgeon told her about a new procedure called "The Knob," where a small knob is placed on the back of a woman's head and can be turned to tighten up her skin to produce the effect of a brand new face lift.

Of course, the woman wanted "The Knob."

Over the course of the years, the woman tightened the knob and the effects were wonderful. The woman remained young looking and vibrant.

After fifteen years, the woman returned to the surgeon with two problems. "All of these years, everything has been working just fine. I've had to turn the knob many times and I've always loved the results. But now I've developed two annoying problems: "First, I have these terrible bags under my eyes and the knob won't get rid of them."

The doctor looked at her closely and said, "Those aren't bags, those are your breasts."

She sighed and said, "Well, I guess there's no point in asking about the goatee…"

imsuzie2 2010-02-20 01:07:53 -0600 Report

Not offended…LMAO

here's one for the ladies…

A group of 50 year old buddies discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally it was agreed upon that they should meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the waitresses there had low cut blouses and were very young.

10 years later at 60 years of age, the group once again discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally it was agreed that they should meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the food there was better than most places and the wine selection was extensive.

10 years later at 70 years of age, the group once again discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally it was agreed that they should meet at the Ocean View restaurant because they could eat there in peace and quiet and the restaurant had a beautiful view of the ocean.

10 years later, at 80 years of age, the group once again discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally it was agreed that they should meet at the Ocean View restaurant because the restaurant was wheel chair accessible and they even had an elevator.

10 years later, at 90 years of age, the group once again discussed where they should meet for dinner. Finally it was agreed that they should meet at the Ocean View restaurant because they had never been there before.

Nova69 2010-02-19 19:21:06 -0600 Report

Here's a joke for #8. i hope it doesn't offend anyone.

An 85-year-old man was asked by his doctor to submit a sample for a sperm count as part of his physical exam.

The doctor gave the man a jar and said, "Take this home and bring back a semen sample tomorrow."

The next day the 85-year-old man reappeared at the doctor's office and gave him the jar, which was as clean and empty as on the previous day.

The doctor asked why the jar was empty and the man explained, "Well, doc, it's like this—first I tried with my right hand, but nothing. Then I tried with my left hand, but still nothing. Then I asked my wife for help. She tried with her right hand, then with her left, still nothing. She tried with her mouth, first with the teeth in, then with her teeth out, still nothing."

"We even called up Arlene, the lady next door and she tried too, first with both hands, then an armpit, and she even tried squeezin' it between her knees, but still nothing."

The doctor was shocked, "You asked your neighbor?" The old man replied, "Yep, None of us could get the damn jar open."

ptsparkle 2010-02-19 20:54:40 -0600 Report

LOL HILARIOUS offended though, cause I have the same trouble with jars !

Deb-G 2010-02-19 22:01:37 -0600 Report

lmao…good rule of thumb…EVERYTHING offends SOMEONE! haha…

Seriously though that was pretty funny :)

imsuzie2 2010-02-20 01:05:21 -0600 Report

I have this great item that opens about 99% of the jars for me. It is heavy plastic and looks a lot like a can opener. Got it on Amazon.com. Got one for my 93 yr old mom-in-law too. And a third to keep in case mine breaks. :)

donna13 2010-02-20 08:12:12 -0600 Report

When I broke my wrist about 6 yrs. ago, I had so much trouble opening jars. I found a jar opener, it is a small appliance and was not cheap. It worked great. But was just some more stuff cluttering up my kitchen. Then I found the one that is battery operated and can be thrown in a drawer. (It's probably like the one you have.) It works just as good and was much cheaper.

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