Oprah's show on Diabetis

Pat Roth
By Pat Roth Latest Reply 2010-05-22 21:00:34 -0500
Started 2010-02-04 17:43:25 -0600

How many got to listen to Oprah Winfrey's show today on Diabetis? What did you learn and what do you REMEMBER?? I was impressed with her former chef, who became diabetic, his family was and there he HAD BEEN cooking with lots of butter and sugar—-BUT when he became diabetic, he applied his zeal to the problem had lost lots of weight, and was in pretty good shape! And in just a few months!

Help me to remember—A big waist means you are probably diabetic—-exercise is the biggest answer to get rid of the belly and the sugar—

Even housewives used to MOVE around more in their kichens, but we take so many short cuts, (different life styes) but is not good, so make more effort to "work out"!

They showed a few foods, cornbread was one of them—it is loaded with sugar, my recipe calls for 1/4 c. sugar to 1c flour and 1 c. corn meal, but still—

You may KNOW what is good for you, BUT until you FEEL it and do better, you probably won't do better even tho you KNOW that you could lose your limbs/eyes, etc (they showed a white, former nurse who did KNOW better—who had lost parts of both legs, CRYING! Didn't think that it could happen to her!) and they showed how and why sugar can be so devastating to our bodies, it kinks up the blood vessels and cuts off our blood supplies to various organs and too many can not be repaired with surgery, making Drs feel so helpless when their patients don't even try to comply, as they know where their patients are headed if they don't change their ways!

Yes, I FELT IT, so now to apply what I know and to keep LEARNING!! Pat Roth


99 replies

mammaG
mammaG 2010-05-22 20:17:26 -0500 Report

How about all those people WHO LIVE IN AMERICA just being AMERICANS…

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-05-22 21:00:34 -0500 Report

Works for me—-I am so absent minded—-I hate to think that some might think that I was deliberately being hurtful——-sigh—-lol

msann
msann 2010-02-06 14:19:04 -0600 Report

opray show was very informative, but pat why use, negroes, why not african americans, we are all in this together, have great day

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-06 14:35:04 -0600 Report

We already have enough tags, why not just, " Human " ?
There was no ill intent on Pat's behalf, we all use different terminology to communicate, the message was the important issue !
" Mays "

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-02-06 15:05:56 -0600 Report

I agree with that Mays about the tags

Often when filling out surveys and they come to the "race" question I click "other" and if they ask my to specify I write "human". I do like to be culturally sensitive, however when referring to others. ~James~.

donna13
donna13 2010-02-07 08:52:18 -0600 Report

When I filled out my first application for a job, there was a question about nationality. I put down American, and the interviewer actually laughed at me. He wanted to know my heritage. After much thinking I came up with German because of grandparents who were born there. But the rest of my heritage was strictly American. My family tree was traced back to the Revolutionary War, all born here. I don't believe they are allowed to ask questions like that anymore.

imsuzie2
imsuzie2 2010-02-07 20:10:12 -0600 Report

When I was in high school these type of questions started. Being naive (dumb) I checked Native American. I am a native Californian, and didn't realize they meant Native-American as in Indian heritage. How would I know? Daddy always told me they got me from the Indians!!! Now, if I could prove it, tribes have great benefits for Native Americans including health benefits… :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-07 23:51:09 -0600 Report

Haha—Oh, suzie!! Now I can laugh at my poor dad who traumatized me with teasing me that they got me from the Mexicans (I was dark complected—)up the road, pulled out a post card with writing on it and said that they already had the card ready to mail to them to come and get me! I was 5 yrs and bawled and bawled, I Will Never forget that scene, but can forgive him now!! Love, Pat

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-02-07 22:20:23 -0600 Report

You'll get questions like that in the 2010 federal census because they have to determine how many of each ethnic group there happens to be in the nation. I personally think it it divisive of national cohesion IMO because it tends to play one ethnic grouping against another, usually for political purposes.

Members of congress - particularly the house of representatives - try to draw their congressional district lines to either include or exclude certain ethnic groups, according to how they think the ethnic group would vote for or against them. That's just one of the reasons it is so hard to unseat an incumbent House member because they draw their district lines to include the groups whic tend to vote for them. Both political parties try to work it that way. It depends on which party is in power when reapportionment time comes around.

They also can ask "demographic" questions like this in surveys, especially online. I do a lot of online surveys, and that's usually when I use the "human" answer.

But you may be right Donna, I don't think they're allowed to ask you your racial makeup in a pre-employment interview or application. I don't know about that as it's been quite some time since I applied for employment.

Blessings!
~J~

donna13
donna13 2010-02-07 22:33:30 -0600 Report

I worked in a personnel office of a large corp. a few years ago. On the applications we handed out there were no questions about race or ethnicity. Yet the federal government wanted us to keep track of how many blacks. asians, and hispanics were hired in ratio to how many applications we had. How were we supposed to document this unless there was something on the application? So we put codes on the applications. Yet we would have been fined in they knew this. Catch 22.

donna13
donna13 2010-02-06 15:08:40 -0600 Report

I'll start by saying that I know where Pat is coming from, being close in age to her. When we grew up Negro was the term used in respect instead of the other term that was very disrespectful. It then changed to black, and now African-American. Whoopie Goldberg after someone called her an African-American, said I am black, it's easier to say. My grandkids are a very diverse group, I've already talked about my granddaughter who was adopted from China. I also have a daughter-in-law who was born in Botswana. Her 2 daughters, my granddaughters, will always be considered black even though half their genes are white. I agree with Mays, we don't need labels.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-07 09:45:34 -0600 Report

Something will always be offensive to someone,
Most of us here are already tagged " Diabetic ",
It has and will either help us or hurt us in life,
We are all proud of our ethnicity and should always be,
But Compassion should override all tags, labels and barriers, Diabetes has, why can't we ?
" Mays "

mammaG
mammaG 2010-02-21 14:17:05 -0600 Report

Thank you for your thought, I feel that we do get too tied up in being correct, we all need to be a lot less senstive and look for the good or the main idea and not be so picky. Lets all just be brothers and sisters to everyone,

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-04-26 22:44:34 -0500 Report

I will apologize one more time—-than that is it! I couldn't THINK of the other words for Negroes, I meant NO OFFENSE, I was afraid it might be taken wrong, but honestly, I just could NOT REMEMBER! I NEVER have used any ones' nationality in a hateful, derogatory manner, I like to be gay too, but guess in this day and age, I should say, HAPPY, unless there is something wrong with that name too that I am not aware of.
From a Fat, white person with a deep tan, and I was teased all of my life about being a Mexican as I was so dark, so the negro thing is really ironic! SOrry!!! Pat Roth

imsuzie2
imsuzie2 2010-02-05 22:11:36 -0600 Report

My, my my. There is so much said to agree with, on both sides. Still not having seen more than 11 minutes of the show (with at least 1 commercial) I did not see enough to really speak to it. I think before I got involved here, and learning more, if I heard a doctor (who I would "think" was an expert, now know better) I would think cure, wow! I will definitely watch it with my eyes open.

You brought up another good point Pat. My husband had his cancer/kidney removed. I also thought cancer free, no chemo, no radiation…now I have to think of that 1 little old cell wandering around his bloodstream. Docs plan on scanning him about every 6 mos, we go back in March…sigh…Hugs

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-05 23:33:02 -0600 Report

If folks just are made aware to get tested to make SURE that they do NOT have diabetis, the show made its point. It doesn't matter the number of people who DON"T KNOW, it is the fact that even ONE might not know.

I got the results of my MRI from last week, due to back pain, mostly in left side —again, they see a lump on my LEFT KIDNEY!! I do NOT have a left kidney—-so now have to set up a cat scan and blood work, ahead of my April appt! He thinks they must have just made a mistake and it was on the right kidney! Duh—-Pardon me, that really doesn't make me feel better, but I just smiled and nodded and kept my real opinions to myself—-He kept saying, "well in all fairness, we had better check further!" MY THOUGHTS were, "Of course, you dodo—"Didn't you learn anything a few months ago??!! But I held my tongue as he did make the right move, I would have pounced on him if he hadn't!! MAybe HE is the one in denial!!! Crap—-sorry—-better quit and get to bed—Hugs, Pat R

jayabee52
jayabee52 2010-02-06 00:31:44 -0600 Report

Nitey Nite Pat

imsuzie2
imsuzie2 2010-02-06 02:24:00 -0600 Report

Oh Pat, I'm sorry that there might be something in the kidney. I might have asked the doctor if they took out the correct one, or maybe something else by mistake…but I bet you were in shock, especially as he didn't seem to know what was up. You let me know if you need me…

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-05 20:43:43 -0600 Report

Diabetes Blood Sugar Chart - Normal Blood Glucose Ranges

Upon waking up (and before breakfast), your levels should be between 80 and 120. This is considered to be a healthy range.

Before meals your levels should also be between 80 and 120.

Two hours after you eat meals, your levels should be 170 or less.

Before lunch, it should drop back down to 80-120.

Before you go to bed, it is ideal to be between 100 and 140.

At 3am (while sleeping), it is ideal to be between 70 and 110.

While fasting, it is ideal that you stay in the 70 to 100 range.

The numbers from this chart will help give you a good idea of normal blood glucose ranges; however, you may want to ask your health care provider where exactly your range should be at (during each of the above events). It is important to receive frequent testing as this can reduce the risk of having complications from your diabetes.

" Mays "

SkipT
SkipT 2010-02-05 21:10:01 -0600 Report

I have to disagree with your numbers. Damage starts to occur upon going over 140. 170 two hours after eating is not acceptable. I never go over 125 two hours after any meal.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-05 21:19:30 -0600 Report

It's not my list it was taken from the American Diabetes Associations website, I never give my opinion or advice without stating that, I don't believe in giving out false, inaccurate or personal information.
" Mays "

SkipT
SkipT 2010-02-06 07:04:12 -0600 Report

Ah, the ADA. If I had followed their guidelines I probably would be on insulin now. Most of the ADA's large sponsers are medical supply and drug companies. They actually said that a diet of 150 grams of carbs would be good for me. I went low carb instead( 6-12-12) and managed to get my self off all meds. They have actually commented that the American people are unwilling to follow a low carb program even though it works, so they won't recommend it!

JulieC
JulieC 2010-02-06 08:18:51 -0600 Report

Skip, I would love to know what you eat at your meals to keep carbs so low. I was put on Byetta a month ago…and it makes me feel sick if I eat too much of anything. So I have been eating very low carb and bland foods…and wala! I feel great! And I have lost almost 15 lbs!!! I want to keep going…but Im getting sick of cottage cheese and apples.

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-02-07 13:53:25 -0600 Report

Wow, Skip, that is wonderful…I am Type One, and my BS levels are rarely ever in that range, and I am on the pump! I am totally confused on these numbers…Mine are either 200 or over, or bottoming out!

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-02-06 09:34:33 -0600 Report

The ADA gets a lot of criticism about those goals being too high. Some say those and the ADA recommended diet structure guarantee the use of medication and future complications. They are not normal blood sugar ranges but are what somebody has come up with as goals for diabetics. Make of them what you will but don't put too much faith in them.

JulieC
JulieC 2010-02-05 19:58:28 -0600 Report

The only problem I have…is I love Dr. Oz…BUT…he said it on Opra and then today on his show and before too…if your blood sugar is 100…you are diabetic. Thats isnt right? Is It?

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-05 23:25:25 -0600 Report

Sorry, but I didn't even HEAR that part!! One reason it helps to have others' input! My mind just grabbed what it wanted to, I guess, lose the belly fat, exercise as muscle helps to SLOW down the absorption of sugar—-PR

Richard157
Richard157 2010-02-05 13:29:19 -0600 Report

The not so wonderful wizard of Oz made a statement that there are 80 million diabetics in the USA and an additional estimated 6+ million not yet diagnosed. In 2009 I researched that and there were 24 million diabetics in the USA and that included an estimated 5+ million who were undiagnosed. So where did the extra 56 million come from??? I think he made many mistakes.

I firmly believe that an apperance by actual diabetics, including some long termers with no complications, and some young children with diabetes, would have much more appeal and impact than Ozzie does.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-05 15:28:26 -0600 Report

The statistics pertaining diabetes will always be misquoted, I agree with you on having actual diabetics on shows and panels for input !
" Mays "

donna13
donna13 2010-02-05 12:42:51 -0600 Report

I was browsing some other webs about the show and found a recurrence of the question - why did they not have an endo on, to give an expert opinion.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-05 12:52:53 -0600 Report

Probably, that is one reason I like to hear "the other side of anything" mostly in politics, I am usually dubious, and maybe I shouldn't be, but based on past experiences, I am. I am sure that there were lots of misconceptions of the show, everyone has an opinion, and I personally, did not take anything said, as gospel—-I have the knack to listen "lightly" absorb what I think is relavent, and read what I NEED into others words, then forget the rest. Not saying that is right or wrong, just the way that my own mind works. Keep the infor simple, I get LOST in too much detail, but that is just ME! Others see anything, thru their own eyes, based on their own experiences, nothing of which, the rest of us have any control over. So, am glad that we do AGREE on Diabetis is hard to understand and deal with, BUT one can start by exercising, losing weight, and eating more sensibly, and I can find no fault with those statements. Of course, one can elaborate on any of them, BUT that was not the purpose of this show! I NEVER BELIEVE everything I read or hear, not even on this site, but it sure can stir up your thinking wheels!! Pat R

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-05 12:04:30 -0600 Report

Thank you ALL for your valuable input!! As for KD, I respect you and your knowledge, but it is too complex for my poor mind to absorb, not that it isn't pertinent—-so hopefully an AWARENESS has been aroused, it sure was HERE anyway—ahah—lol, and amen!! I may someday understand the nitty-gritty part better, but as for now, I will concentrate on losing the belly fat, etc and KNOW that my body will benefit from my better life style, diabetis, cancer or whatever—-. Have a GREAT DAY, ALL!! Pat Roth

Dillon Prickett
Dillon Prickett 2010-04-19 02:32:39 -0500 Report

Hey Pat, may I ask what you are doing to drop the belly fat? I am a health coach and may have a few pointers for you. I am just curious as to what you are doing and how it's working out for you.
In Health
-Dillon

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-04-19 11:00:43 -0500 Report

A work in progress—-I read where eating eggs helps to drop body fat, so eat one for breakfast about 3 or 4 times a week. I also attend chair aerobics at our Wellness Center, but none of that is enough—-I would love to hear your suggestions. Thanks, Pat R

imsuzie2
imsuzie2 2010-04-24 20:37:19 -0500 Report

Dillon, I would be interested in what you had to say. Pat is more advanced than I! I have my mini stair master right here under my desk (I can reach out and touch it with my foot) and a recumbent bike in the next room. I am getting motivated…yea! What should I do to "warm up" before these activities, and what could I do that is easy to work on my upper arms? Anytime I try to do even raising my arms straight up or to the sides, my back and next ache for days. I think if I added any weight I would be in real trouble!

Thanks…

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-05 10:33:02 -0600 Report

Thanks for the LEVELING out of info/opinions! As for me, I am still touchy about some things, what one gets for so openly "sharing"but is vital to healing as well.

Awareness, is what I was trying to say, just get wordy sometimes—-and we are all Passionatley, Sweet folks too—-sigh—PR

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-05 11:23:04 -0600 Report

Accept the message if not the messenger !
I accept both because everyone benefits from this in some way !
Thanks for bringing it to the forefront in your own special way !
" Mays "

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-05 10:11:07 -0600 Report

Excellent end point !

Questioning and Research go hand in hand, one relies on the other to co exist, if you are unsure, a question here and there, a little reading and lots of evaluating goes a long way towards ease of mind (sometimes) and educational knowledge.

The purpose of this posting (in my opinion) was one of awareness to diabetes, the last time I check, I noticed that Doctor or Specialist was not attached to my name and that I can do research and have the ability to update my information and change my mind, what about you ?
(LOL)
" Mays"

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-05 09:44:29 -0600 Report

Wow, Oprah/s show really stirred up a GOOD DEBATE!! I learned a lot from OUR forum!! I still have trouble remembering, so found this debate reinforced some things in my mind, then made me question others. I don't usually watch her show or the Drs., ASSUMED that they would KNOW or wouldn't be on the show to advise us.

I did remember, Exercise, Watch your intake, Lose that belly fat—whether or not it CURES, was not a question for ME!! I KNEW that it was that FIRST step, to be AWARE, not the nitty-gritty of diabetis, as Deb said, it was an hour show to help AWAKEN society, go to Wal-Greens on Feb 5th to be tested to determine if YOU were one of the remaing number (forgot how many—was a bunch—-) that were UNAWARE of being diabetic in order to help them PREVENT the side effects and organ damage that can be done to our bodies, and we never KNOW it till much damage has already been done, and THAT is Non reversible.

So no matter the wording, I GOT THE FEEL of the program, and that is one thing stressed, that KNOWING doesn't always help you, IF YOU DON"T FEEL IT and WILL do SOMETHING to help yourself BEFORE any more damage is done.

Will someone help me here, aren't WE ALL susceptible if we overeat, (I know,not always the fact—-)become more sedentary?? You do NOT have to have that genetic factor? Great discussion, SWEET things!!

Sorry about, Negro, to ME that is a sign of respect, I knew when I wrote that word it would raise a ruckus—-couldn't think of anything else, I have a Negro girlfriend, and love her, she is sweet, caring and a hard worker!! And I RESPECT her!! I am older and my wheels don't turn too fast anymore, no offense meant AT ALL!! Hugs Pat R

donna13
donna13 2010-02-05 09:53:11 -0600 Report

First, Dr. Oz is not on The Doctors, he has his own show. I happen to like the The Doctors, not so much Dr. Oz. As far as bringing awareness to the people most vulnerable, that is definitely a good thing. But bringing the wrong info is definitely not. As far as assuming they would know because they are well known doctors, I find it hard to believe you would think that. From reading your posts I got the impression that you have had trouble with doctors in your life. I know after going through my husbands terminal illness, I became very cynical and question, question, question my doctors.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-05 10:01:02 -0600 Report

First, The Doctors?? Is that a TV program I am unaware of? I was simply lumping them all together, don't think that they were ALL DRS EVEN, just suppposed to know something or they wouldn't have been on—sigh—

Goodness, I don't know how ANYONE would take a negative from a well meaning program, and I refuse to argue any further about it! So, don't you always LISTEN to ANYONE with a bit of skeptiscim—-and the fact that I have had problems with Drs in the past, has NOTHING To do with you or anyone else, and a trait I am trying to overcome, so don't judge me by my PAST!! In fact, you don't even need to JUDGE me at all!! I just opened this discussion on diabetis and I guess it is OPEN!!! PR—amen!! Period!!

ptsparkle
ptsparkle 2010-02-05 10:11:04 -0600 Report

It seems that this is getting a lot of attention, with some varied opinions. Let's not get too heated in our differences. Perhaps we come to our differences as these three patients.

Memory Test
Three elderly men visited the doctor for a memory test. The doctor asked the first one, "What's three times three?"

"285!" the man replied.

Worried, the doctor turned to the second man. "How about you? What's three times three?"

"Uh, Monday!" the second man shouted.

Even more concerned, the doctor motioned to the third man. "Well, what do you say? What's three times three?"

"Nine!" the third man replied.

"Excellent!" the doctor exclaimed. "How did you get that?"

"Oh, it's pretty simple," the man explained. "You just subtract the 285 from Monday!"

Take a deep breath, smile, and have fun ! You are all GREAT!!!
Jim

donna13
donna13 2010-02-05 10:11:27 -0600 Report

I'm sorry you thought I was judging you, that was the last thing I was doing. You have been very open about your past (and present) and I find that refreshing, as I am usually reticent about mine.

imsuzie2
imsuzie2 2010-02-07 02:47:52 -0600 Report

I looked at Wikipedia on Dr Oz and found this…which might tie into the Telemarketer discussion as well:

"RealAge drug marketing

As The New York Times has explained, Oz is a "spokesman and adviser" for the website, RealAge.com, which the paper has heavily criticized for its pharmaceutical marketing practices. The site solicits medical information from visitors, ostensibly to determine a visitor’s "biological age" and then uses the visitor's medical profile for pharmaceutical marketing purposes. As The Times reporter explained the significance of this fact: "While few people would fill out a detailed questionnaire about their health and hand it over to a drug company looking for suggestions for new medications, that is essentially what RealAge is doing."[8]"

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-07 09:17:52 -0600 Report

Ok, I stand corrected—BUT it wasn't Dr Oz that impressed me, or his motives, I came away with the knowledge that we must get rid of our belly fat, be AWARE, I took it to pursue our chances of diabetis with our own Drs., maybe he didn't SAY THAT—that is just what I was thinking—granted I am a FREE thinker— I honestly didn't see any threat to others about the nitty-gritty part of it, NOTHING has a real cure, I DON"T THINK—my surgery hopefully got rid of my cancer, but I am smart enough to KNOW that really isn't the end of it, or a CURE!! Sorry if others were mislead—I didn't come away with that feeling at all—-just a remission type thing—-but I am not always too explicit in my own wording—I don't know how, I guess. Pat R

Martha Johnson
Martha Johnson 2010-02-05 10:46:01 -0600 Report

Pat,
Thank you for sharing about the programs on T.V.
I found Oprah's show was very informative.
As for The Doctors.I frequently have to change
channels.Because of the majority of their subjects
are so blatent.They even had a old lady up there
who is sex therapist.To me they are usually sickening
Without respect for God or themselves. Blessings Martha

donna13
donna13 2010-02-05 11:00:42 -0600 Report

Actually they had Dr. Ruth on. I immediately turned it off as I was not at all interested in what she had to say. There are other things they cover that are also not something I am interested in. Thank heaven for remotes, I just turn off the tv or turn to something else. But their coverage of Haiti, when all 4 doctors went down there to help was riveting. To see one of the doctors, the pediatrician, break down in tears after coming out of a tent where he had been treating children for really catastrophic wounds was beyond description.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-06 09:41:40 -0600 Report

Who is Dr Ruth? I suppose TV Drs dont have to abide by "the rules of honesty and integrity" as regular folks do!?????! Really—-are they all just hired because of their charismatic personalities and not their knowledge! I really don't know, but I honestly don't take ALL of ANYTHING that anyone says—-hugs, Pat R

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-06 15:11:11 -0600 Report

Oh??? Well, guess that excuses me!! hahah—-Whatever—-I know all I WANT to know!! BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT!! But love our 4 children!! haha—PR

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-05 08:49:09 -0600 Report

Diabetes is chronic disease meaning " Life Long ".

Type 1 is the result of failure of the pancreas to produce insulin, period.

For type 2 there is no cure only only prevention and it requires medical analysis on your individual situation and circumstances,commitment to controlling your diet, exercise and monitoring your health and well being.

Diabetes Education, Awareness, Commitment to Combating Diabetes and Action are all needed and have to be practiced, it's not easy but it is necessary.

Every discussion can be picked apart for it's pros and cons which amounts to personal opinion, nothing else, nothing concrete.

The important thing about the show was " Diabetes Awareness " at least someone is \ was willing to step forward and make an attempt to bring this disease and it's cause and complications to the general public and at least create (when the show ended) a discussion, awareness, curiosity and for some commitment to combating this disease on a personal or compassionate level.

Take the next step, rather than argue and debate, take the time to research, ask question, clarify facts and pass the results on, helping yourself, helping someone else, helping the cause !

Thank you, Oprah Winfrey, Walgreens and all those involved in making this happen.

Now it's our turn !

" Mays "

imsuzie2
imsuzie2 2010-02-05 03:13:18 -0600 Report

I have Direct TV, and the guide lists several repeats of this show. I started to watch it with my husband tonite from recording it…but he went to sleep, so we will watch it another time.

On the weekend I sometimes get to listen to Dr Dean Edell on his radio show. He is great, and has said some negative things about Dr Oz, (or was it "The Doctors"?) in the past. I have never really seen him much, so this will be a good opportunity. Oprah said it in the opening…Diabetes is really bad in the African Community and that is why she is bringing it to her show. But, the first 11 minutes I saw was interesting.

Edie
Edie 2010-02-04 21:17:20 -0600 Report

I went to Oprah.com and got the whole show printed out for me to read as I missed it. It is 5 pages long. Pat I will share it with you as soon as I read it.

You can find the show information at
www.oprah.com/index.html
There is many diabetes shows listed there for all to read for them selves. I hope you all check it out.

London
London 2010-02-04 21:06:04 -0600 Report

I watched it and thought it was very interesting. I was amazed to see them show how much sugar is in pop and certain foods. It was funny because my boyfriend watched it w/ me and started doing sit ups after wards. LOL He is a big Mt. Dew drinker. Hopefully he learned something as well. My only question was, they said you can reverse diabetes to where you don't have it any more. I thought once you have you have it for life. Very good show, I hope it reached many people diabetic and non diabetic.

donna13
donna13 2010-02-04 21:28:05 -0600 Report

I wondered about that, too. As far as I know it is not reversible yet it was said a number of times. At one point Oprah even questioned what he had said. He answered that it could be reversed. I do think it was good to air this show, if Oprah and he are right in that the African-American community is igoring the dangers of this disease.

I watched Dr. Oz's show the other day. He had a woman on there who had lost a lot of weight. She had been diagnosed with diabetes, but said that now that she had lost all that weight she was no longer a diabetic. She said that at least twice, but Dr. Oz never corrected her. He let it stand. Today on his show he had Carny Wilson on, talking about all the weight she has regained after losing it before. He took her vitals to show her what danger she was in. Her blood sugar was 100, and he announced she was a border line diabetic - at 100. I personally have lost a lot of respect for him and I am sure that influenced my opinion of the show.

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-04 21:31:18 -0600 Report

Type 2 Diabetes can be controlled well enough where you can slow down the effects of diabetes and lower the risk of the complications of such.
But the damage done to your organs up to that point can't be undone but future damage can be minimized, but it all requires getting control of your glucose.

Diabetes is a Chronic Disease, you have it for life.
Type 1 is unique in the fact that the body doesn't produce insulin at all due to the insulin producing cells being destroyed by your bodies immune system .

http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/type-1/
"Mays"

Zimoss
Zimoss 2010-02-04 22:45:45 -0600 Report

Diabetes CANNOT at this time be cured or reversed (both type 1 and 2).

that being said (Type 2 Diabetics), can lose weight and get in shape allowing your body to produce enough insulin to meet your needs…and therefore going off your diabetes meds.

While this might be considered a "cure" you are still diabetic and always will be… Diabetes is a genetic defect and is not like a cold/flu that you can catch and get over… and if you gained weight would be right back on the same drugs as the rest of us "non-cured" diabetics.

London
London 2010-02-04 23:44:29 -0600 Report

That is what I was thinking. I believe you always are going to have it regardless, but might not be on meds. That topic confused me a litttle.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-04 22:48:57 -0600 Report

I understood that it was only type 2 that can reverse it, the type 1 is a different cause. PR

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-04 22:50:11 -0600 Report

Ok, I just re-read the above post, a TEMPORARY cure then—hmmm, well it beats NOTHING. PR

Zimoss
Zimoss 2010-02-04 22:58:07 -0600 Report

you missed my main point… THERE IS NO CURE AT FOR DIABETES- at least not at this time.

you can go off medication (if type 2), but you are still diabetic… as far as people claiming to be cured…they have simply lost enough weight for their own body to be able to use/ produce enough insulin for their dietary needs.(example: they don't eat the quarter pounder with a large coke and large fries so they don't need the extra insulin to keep their blood sugars in "normal" range)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-04 23:06:30 -0600 Report

I understood your point, Zimoss, I AGREED that there is no cure, by temporary, I meant what I said, IF you revert back to poking down sugar, ANYONE could come down with diabetis! Especially those that are predisposed! PR

Deb-G
Deb-G 2010-02-05 08:18:07 -0600 Report

Type 2 diabetes can without a doubt be reversed into a remission state or a state of inactivity…

Weight control, diet control, excersise, reduction of body/belly fat…

That is why focus for type 2's involves so much diet…you can get off medication if you reduce all these things…

Unfortunately many cannot and are left on medications..and if they continue to allow it to progress end up on insulin because of the effects it has on the body long term…

Type 1's are different…they aren't producing enough, or any insulin…and its not typically about weight…

Deb-G
Deb-G 2010-02-05 08:22:40 -0600 Report

and btw Zimoss…while you would still be technically labeled "diabetic"…if you reduce your diabetes and A1c back to a good range with diet, weight loss, excersise, etc and come off all medication and are indeed in a point of "remission" although still technically diabetic…the point is…that state of remission is doing NO DAMAGE to your body…

So as for Type 1's with insulin control to reduce long term problems and other deseases

Type 2's can do the same using weight, diet control…

That was the point…not the word CURE…

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-02-05 09:45:14 -0600 Report

I'll have to bite my tongue here in an attempt to not let this thread get out of hand. However, this information is extremely misleading at best and some of it is completely wrong. I urge people not to take it at face value and to research diabetes, blood sugar control and the role of each different management technique.

I will say that you may be giving yourself a false sense of security. Good blood sugar control doesn't mean that you will never get complications. High blood sugar is just a symptom of diabetes and contributing factor to complications.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-05 09:50:27 -0600 Report

Whatever, Anyone can make what they will out of any information, I NEVER took it that I would be COMPLETELY FREE if I did the exercising/better eating plan—isn't that mainly what is preached?? Like my cancer removal, once you get that cell in your body, NO MATTER the treatment or lack of it, you will ALWAYS have it and that possiblity of coming out of remission and LOSING THE BATTLE!! But that is so true of so many things, and I will not live the rest of my life in FEAR of ANYTHING!! But will always BE CAUTIOUS!! THANKS PR

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-02-05 10:35:54 -0600 Report

Think a little wider. You personally didn't think that but what would the people who go to their doctor a couple of times a year, never ask questions and rarely test think? They are the majority in the diabetic community. That's why wording is key. I guarantee that there are thousands of diabetics who after watching the show will think they can work for 6 months and will no longer have diabetes and then can do whatever they want. And even worse, millions of non-diabetics who will now tell every diabetic that they know they can cure themselves.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-05 10:41:45 -0600 Report

Oh, dear, KD——Maybe SOME would, but again, NOT ALL think alike and wouldn't believe anything IF they didn't want to! Guess I am just more laid back than you—-I am older and tired, and maybe I USED to question everyone MORE, but just glean what APPLIES to me and based on what I know, I can not even begin to imagine what others must think or know—hopefully MORE than I. My common sense kicks in and auto matically kicks out the extremes, I still think it was mostly an AWARENESS program, granted for entertainment, but also a BEWARE sign—-which was acceptable to me, sorry for others, but I am not responsible for THEM either. Thanks for your input, you are a wise man! Pat R

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-05 11:18:26 -0600 Report

Exactly, an attempt at bringing Diabetes Awareness to the masses and Oprah and everyone involved needs to be applauded for doing so, now it's up to us to do the same !

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-02-04 20:57:20 -0600 Report

I didn' watch the show this morning but I will tonight. also, the word Negro is not an appropriate word. try African Americans or black. Sounds Better

JulieC
JulieC 2010-02-04 20:42:29 -0600 Report

I saw that was on and recorded it..I just watched it…that lady in the hospital…I started to cry…I see people just like her every day…when will we learn? We know what it does..yet we..we still dont seem to get it..untill its too late…I hope it saved some one some where. Thats why I hate this so much…you dont feel it..or see it untill its too late.

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