Dawn Phenomenon

Manda - 121788
By Manda - 121788 Latest Reply 2012-07-18 23:15:53 -0500
Started 2010-01-25 15:33:05 -0600

I'm having a really difficult time with high bloodsugar in the morning. I've been a diabetic for 17 years and just recently went off an insulin pump and back to shots. My blood sugar is great all night but about an hour before I wake it shoots up to 250. Anyone have suggestions???


19 replies

birdogron
birdogron 2012-07-17 22:43:15 -0500 Report

An earlier doctor adjusted my pump to kick in a little extra insulin in the basal rate at about 3:00 am to accomodate the dawn phenomenon. My next doctor told me to leave it alone and make no adjustments. He told me my blood sugar was dropping too low and glycogen from my liver was bringing it up so high. He said the dawn phenomenon doesn't exist. So…who do you believe? I wish it would do that when I have those lows and save the ambulance all that trouble.

birdogron
birdogron 2012-07-17 22:56:18 -0500 Report

Yea me too. There are just so many unanswered questions. I sure hate those lows and the highs will kill you too, just slower. My 2nd doctor also does sonograms of my legs (found some blockage), blood tests being especially aware of uric acid, sonograms of my liver, heart, kidneys. It seems easier to believe a doctor that seems to be doing things right.

lipsie
lipsie 2010-01-26 12:07:35 -0600 Report

I have heard eatting a light snack at night does help for some reason. What are you doing now prior to bed may I ask? Sorry to hear of your troubles though hun! Hugs! Sheila

birdogron
birdogron 2012-07-18 23:12:04 -0500 Report

Lipsie: Actually, as you might expect, by forcing myself to eat dinner with no snacks before bed works best for me by far. When I snack I think I tend to eat the fatty stuff, which slows down the absorbing of carbs and I believe the carbs come on later through the night. I keep telling myself it's OK to want to eat but if I have will power not to eat, I will win!! What a bummer. I've come to think that it is healthier to be just a little hungry, (not low bg) than run around full. The hard part is doing it. The good news is that this is probably a healthy philosophy for even non-diabetics.

begonia
begonia 2010-01-25 21:41:45 -0600 Report

what do you eat before bed and at what time???i have problems w/regular blood sugar at bed then wake up at 160 somtimes,doctors say that metabolism slows at bed time as body keys down but builds up hormones over night that affect sugars in am

birdogron
birdogron 2012-07-18 23:15:53 -0500 Report

I wear a pump and have a basal rate. I think the pumps help especially if you are able to eat dinner, no snacks after, check bg levels two hours before and just before bed. This may give you an idea which direction you are headed and you will know it's not the carbs causing it. I figure my insulin is active in my body for three hours.

ptsparkle
ptsparkle 2010-01-25 21:21:55 -0600 Report

How do you know what your levels are an hour before you wake up? What is it if you get up at regular time and check it, or does the high wake you up pre-maturally?
Jim

begonia
begonia 2010-01-25 21:38:31 -0600 Report

the lows wake u up

ptsparkle
ptsparkle 2010-01-25 21:40:43 -0600 Report

250 isn;t a low.

begonia
begonia 2010-01-25 21:48:41 -0600 Report

ofcourse 250 not low but having lows while sleeping is known to wake u and also cause nightmares too.when u wake up,did you not ever notice that if u check blood sugar right away within 30 minutes then check again about1 hr levels change to higher,even as much as 100 points i've recorded in the past personally notably after going to bed w/sugars at 95,maybe highs also wake u but i've never heard of it,it's supposed to be like a surge returning to normal or high levels first thing in am afer having low at sleep mode

ptsparkle
ptsparkle 2010-01-25 21:54:35 -0600 Report

I was resonding to the op and trying to figure out why he was waking up an hour before his regular time. I know lows can wake us up with sweats, nightmares, etc. Sorry if you mis-understood, wasn't trying to be smart. (cause I ain't !!)
Jim

begonia
begonia 2010-01-25 21:59:41 -0600 Report

no offense taken ofcourse diabetes blows you know,hope i didn't come of cranky,sometimes i am that way but not on purpose,just a very straight forward gal and agian i say diabetes blows

Manda - 121788
Manda - 121788 2010-01-25 20:56:01 -0600 Report

I have discussed this extensively with my doctor and I can't recall what drug she suggested but it canceled out another medication I'm on. She also suggested symlin, but my insurance didn't cover it, and I can't afford that right now. I will have to ask her about lantus. Thanks for the suggestion.

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