Diabetic Myth

Blue Angel
By Blue Angel Latest Reply 2014-06-15 07:17:29 -0500
Started 2010-01-20 16:10:33 -0600

Have anyone heard any diabetic myth when you first found out you were a diabetic? I heard one it was only fat people get diabetes, Wrong. I know people who was skinny. And I know big peopl who was heatlhy. So these are Two Myths I know of. What Do you think?


23 replies

Lynniepie
Lynniepie 2014-06-15 07:17:29 -0500 Report

yes a ;ot of us get agro because sugar lvels are low or suddenly dropped - or we can get weepy - bit of sugar and happy face - on the other hand some constantly agro people send their sugar crazy with the anger

JustJenny
JustJenny 2011-10-25 10:00:17 -0500 Report

Blue Angekl this is not directed to you but is a copy of a post I posted pertaining to an article on this site "3 Myths about Diabetes". Angered me that they allowed an annomyous writer to post the article. Just proves that you can't always trust what you read on the internet.

Myths article…Eating too much sugar will cause you to get diabetes?? Really?? Lets move into the 20th century folks. While the article makes some attempt to justify this myth it really is quite irresponsible. Being overweight will make you get diabetes? Again, not necessarily true. There are millions of overweight people out there who will never develop diabetes. I agree that a healthy diet is important for everyone. I also think it is as important to use current information to educate, not archaic scare tacticsl Take a look at the ADA's article on Top 10 diabetic myths, posted on this same site, and you'll find a complete contradiction to statements made regarding this subject. Please do not allow others to give you bad information about this disease. Its hard enough to manage as it is without the additional work of separating good information from bad.

Wynn900
Wynn900 2011-10-23 17:16:19 -0500 Report

I thought I had type 2 diabeties also. I inherediated mines from my mother. I don't know, maybe I have type 1. I'm the only one in my family that inherediate it. neither of my sisters did,

Bee*3
Bee*3 2011-10-23 00:18:46 -0500 Report

Im confused. I was taught type 2 was hereditary. If type one is genetic, then why am I the only one in my family, on both sides of my family, with the darn disease?

JustJenny
JustJenny 2011-10-25 10:02:57 -0500 Report

Genetics isnt the only contributor. it can be a factor but it is not necessary. I too am the only one in my family to have this disease. And it may go several generations back, before they knew what it was.

LindaJoyAdams
LindaJoyAdams 2011-10-22 15:37:27 -0500 Report

Cinnamon does work for me as does glucosamine chondroitin. recently, my inhalers were pulled from the market leaving those like me with no safe substitutes. my doctor prescribed a mixture of saline solution and dexem.. gluco-steroid which I put in my humidifier bottle attached to my liquid oxygen tank. What dosage? at first was getting too much until began using my glucose readings to determine dosage.(doctor supervised and I kept records) The point is: supplements like cinnamon, work for some groups and maybe not for others. Until we stop the arrogance toward natural solutions and either do the clinical trials or adopt those done by other nations such as Germany we will never know which group can be helped and with what dosage. Veterans having toxic and chemical injuries can now be allowed for payment from the VA for diabetes 2, others are still not doing so. Again was it the injury or was it the side affect of long term steroid use which is needed to sustain life and counteract constant inflammation caused by the damage to the mucous membrane that can no longer ' filter' out those minute parts per billions of chemicals and other irritants that are everywhere in the modern world. Real study and answers need to be made. until the USA decides to recognize that chemicals and toxins can sometimes get in the wrong mix and do physical harm to humans, we are gong to be providing third world health care which more regulation contracted out to private companies with ownership from those producers isn't going to change either and that's coming all to soon. A bottle of good quality cinnamon capsules is minimal compared to prescription drug costs. But one should always try under a doctor's supervision. Also, the current yearly check up is missing too many already suffering from mild diabetes. ( the word pre diabetic shouldn't even be used) . One is instructed to fast for several hours first, and what does that do for most with mild diabetes? lower the glucose levels until its not uncommon for it to be 7 years on average to diagnose. When going in or preventative care check up, ask if its OK to get a 10 day kit less than $20 at major retailers, and come to the appt with the readings in order to give ones doctor the proof and ammunition to get insurers and health plans to pay for proper care while diet and monitoring can keep ones diabetes in check. The only response might be, insurers won't pay for it. But what if one has undiagnosed diabetes and ends up in an accident and wrong solutions and meds given while undergoing surgery? Its only ones life and health at stake. Linda Joy Adams , injured in terrible chemical disaster on 1/10/89 and still alive but with chronic health problems proving death in 5 years no longer has to occur.

berrykins0
berrykins0 2011-10-22 14:37:07 -0500 Report

heavy peopl aren't the only ones that get diabetes your right i had one grandpa that had diabetes he was really skinny and a aunt that was diabetic she is skinny too. they both took meds like me and my other grandpa was diabetic he was kinda heavy set he didn't need meds or insulin. had problems with my weight do to thyriod problems lost all the weight and have been at a healthy weight for 1yr 1/2my body mass is 22.1 so weight loss doesn't reverse diabetes or nor get you off the meds thats bull sheet. i'm still taking metforin once a day.

JustJenny
JustJenny 2011-10-25 10:11:48 -0500 Report

I finally found a competent Endochronologist who flat out told me, "You do not have diabetes because you are overweight. Your body cant use insulin effectively, thats why you have diabetes." Wow! You mean this isn't my fault like my Dad always told it was!? What a relief of guilt that statement was for me. Needless to say, I love this doctor!

joanne denison
joanne denison 2011-10-22 11:43:57 -0500 Report

The low fat thing is a complete—COMPLETE myth also. You should eat good fats—olive oils , pure and unrefined, avocado, organic and coconut oil. Stay away from any vegetable oil produced in this country—most are GMO and not the good GMO like insulin or AHCC, but bad GMO where the plant produces toxins and other non natural substances to withstand heavy applications of Roundup and other horrible, horrible fertilizers. Many of our fertilizers still contain fluoride. Fluoride! Toxins and non organic foods are terrible for diabetics.
Olive oil is not recommended for cooking because it breaks down at temperatures about about 120 deg F. Coconut oil and butter are much better.
Butter is a great source of good natural fats because it has all sorts of vitamins and minerals in it. Highly processed, GMO veggie oils lack these nutrients are are only empty calories.
Anyone with any illnesses—cancer, diabetes, should get to a good natural clinic and be screened for all types of nutritional deficiencies and inflammation and stick to the diet those docs recommend. Block clinic in Skokie, Illinois is one such world renowned clinic.
And high fiber foods containing carbs are little better than carbs and sugars dump them or make them "best to avoid".
Other than that, the article is fine. USE your meter after you eat a meal and eliminate foods that spike your blood sugar. Eat when you are hungry and your BSL is at 80 to 100 and then test a half hour or hour afterward. Eliminate anything from your diet that spikes your BSL. That is generally most unrefined carbs and sugars, but some processed foods, standard US veggie oils, and other processed foods are often culprits too, even though they do not appear to be low carb. I have a client who is a diabetic and he cannot eat salad dressings. I said, make your own at home with fresh buttermillk (preferrably raw) , herbs and spices. Problem solved.
Vitamin C (LypoSpheric) and D3 are essential to good health and the building blocks of life.

Richard157
Richard157 2011-10-22 10:02:18 -0500 Report

There is a wonderful book called "50 Diabetes Myths That Can Ruin Your Life and the 50 Diabetes Truths than Save It" by Riva Greenberg. Just type her name in the search bar at the top of the amazon.com home page if you want to buy a copy. Riva consulted many professionals and fellow diabetics in writing this book. She is a type 1 diabetic herself. She called me and we talked for an hour on the phone. She is researching now while preparing her next book.

esjesjesj
esjesjesj 2011-10-22 09:30:50 -0500 Report

the two myths that bother me the most is that becoming fat makes you diabetic and that you can eat whole grains. For me, I became fat as I developed diabetes and I've seen some research indicating this is true for a lot of people. As for whole grains, I might as well eat sugar. A half cup of brown rice pushes me up over 18 (from 100) oats,, whole grain bread, etc. have a similar effect. if I have the same type of food a second or third day, the blood sugar rise is even more dramatic.

I'm sure looking forward to a bloodless meter so that people won't be afraid to measure effect of the foods they eat and face up to the fact that they are causing themselves significant damage from following food myths

joanne denison
joanne denison 2011-10-22 11:46:34 -0500 Report

Thank you for saying that whole grains spikes your BSL! See my post above and how "whole grains" are a horrid food pushed by "big agra". Atkins and now Mercola and his "No Grain Diet" book are right on this biochemical aspect.
However, you should note that this is an ad based, sponsored website. The author may have been edited or she was educated by someone with a vested interest in promoting grains—a cereal product that is fairly devoid of nutrition, and toxic to the human body. BUT you can produce a cereal box of grains for ten cents, promote it heavily, market it, lie about it, and then sell it for $4 "on sale." Cargill, Monsanto, and other "merchants of grain" are pure evil.

Dalien
Dalien 2011-10-22 18:02:40 -0500 Report

I agree with your statements about grains. I am a carbohydrate addict and have struggled with this all my life. Certain people just can't tolerate all the carbs in grains. I have tried to eat healthier by switching to whole grain products. And I enjoy a bowl of bran flakes occasionally. My mother was diabetic so I grew up pretty educated on the subject. About 8 yrs ago I was diagnosed and put on metformin. I lost 80 pounds and then didn't need the metformin and sugar levels were great. I was in a car wreck in 09 and in a wheelchair for 6 months. Sadly the weight came back on. Just 2 wks ago the dr said my sugars were elevated and put me on a low dose of Glipizide. I have been testing everyday and my numbers are always about 110. So I guess the Glipizide is working. I really wanted the metformin back so I could get the weight off easly. I am 60 and have arthritis, fibromyalgia, chronic back pain no thyroid. Any aerobic excercise is out for me, due to my back. But I love to work out with weights. Hopefully that will be enough.

donna13
donna13 2010-01-21 11:04:40 -0600 Report

I think they are finding that obesity does play a part in getting T2. But not the only part, and no weight type is immune to getting it. Myself, I was exceptionally skinny until I was in my 50''s then started putting on weight. But I am no where near being called obese, I probably could lose 20 lbs. but don't feel that was the cause of my being diabetic. I know someone who just had a heart attack at age 50, is very overweight. has high bp and chol., but his bg is fine. Go figure.

giojuju
giojuju 2010-01-21 10:09:25 -0600 Report

diabetes doesnt hit just one kind of person i have relatives that are over wieght and diabetics and other over wieght and healthy as ever. i am only 110 lbs and have diabetes so u never know.

stormz
stormz 2011-10-22 16:49:49 -0500 Report

diabetes does not pick on one type of person it picks who ever it wants it does not go by race or color either. It hits one person or another. I have an aunt that got it in her 60's and no one on that side of the family ever had it before. Like I said it just says it's your turn your it. Like playing a game of tag. You just never know who is going to get it next.

2010-01-20 19:37:47 -0600 Report

My mom's family is skinny as sticks and they have it. So I got it by heridity. The myth that gets me is food. Some people will say, " you can eat whateverrrrrrrr you like -you just have to eat in moderation.' NOT TRUE. There are things I just can not eat if I want my numbers to stay stable and I do not want to fall out from dizziness. ORANGE JUICE. God I miss orange juice. I just can't consume it…oh well
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joanne denison
joanne denison 2011-10-22 11:49:47 -0500 Report

There are many good stevia based orange flavored drinks out there that are natural and organic. Use those as a replacement. Most health food stores carry them. Stevia is a traditional treatment for diabetes in South America. (That should be on the myth list—anything sweet is bad for you—and Truvia drops my fasting BSL20 points or more. BTW, I am not and never have been diabetic. I just prevent it by using a BSL to prove to myself and others some stuff just should not be eaten

giojuju
giojuju 2010-01-21 10:11:54 -0600 Report

moderation works for many ppl but not all. my grandma has had diabetes for about 35 yrs and she has never tried a diet soda or anything sugarless she eats everything and anything (food) but in moderation and she doesnt have a problem with her levels. but it could also be because shes been well controled for yrs now who knows.

Harlen
Harlen 2010-01-20 17:25:23 -0600 Report

Yep
Lose the extra Lbs and that will help your diabetes NOT
It didnt work for me nor even a little\
Best wishes all
Harlen

joanne denison
joanne denison 2011-10-22 11:51:31 -0500 Report

Yeah, that's another myth. The "tables" we have for weight were developed in 1920. Studies continue to show that people slightly overweight (according to these tables) have the lowest morbidity rate over 5 years—any age group.
While you don't want to be obese, you might not want to be "normal" according to the tables, at least anyway.
Thin people are just as bad as obese and have horrid mobidity rates, even adjusting for those already having a diagnosis of cancer, heart disease, etc.

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