Blood Sugar Question..

By griz104 Latest Reply 2010-01-26 07:05:33 -0600
Started 2010-01-14 09:45:20 -0600

I was wondering how long it will take to lower my Blood Sugar to a reasonable level again.. For the past month i have been going to the gym 5 days a week and am now walking over 5 miles everyday.. I have the recommended diet every day and honestly have not cheated once..I exercise portion control and have been told by some i am being to strict with myself.. but my Blood Sugar still continues to hang around 180-200..I take Metformin 3 times a day at 500 milligrams and Glipizide once at Supper time..just wondering if i was being to impatient with myself or if i needed to try and do something else…

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Kirla 2010-01-14 21:38:47 -0600 Report


It took my blood sugars about 6 weeks to go from the 200-300+ range to about a average of 125. Now my blood sugar averages somewhere around 95. When diagnosed my A1C was 14.1 February 2009 and my last one in October 2009 was 5.6.

I started to drink at least 8 cups or more of water a day and started to eat lots of vegetables. Broccoli, spinach, cabbage, cauliflower and two cups of salad every day. I also started to eat oatmeal every morning but it spiked my sugar over 100+ points two hours after eating it. So I quit eating it. Now for breakfast I drink a low carb protein drink and eat one serving of sunflower seeds for a mid morning snack.

By testing my blood sugar before and after each meal I learned what foods spiked my sugar and anything I ate that spiked me more than what I liked, I stopped eating it.

Potatoes, pasta, bread (all types), cookies, cakes, and crackers I had to stop eating. I can’t eat anything made with flour of any kind. It all spikes my sugar. I check the label of everything I eat and don’t buy any product with more than 6 net carbs per serving. I never eat more than 1 serving of any food that contains any carbs. I can eat several foods containing small amounts of carbs together, but never more than 1 serving each.

After about 6-7 weeks of taking Meds I couldn’t take the side effects anymore so I stopped taking them. It was either stop taking the Meds or go to the emergency room. I started to get real bad muscle cramps in the back of my legs. So I temporary stopped taking my pills. The muscle cramps went away and I was going to start to take them again one at a time to see what Meds were causing the cramps.

I continued to test my blood sugar 6 times a day and checked my blood pressure 3 times a day or more. I purchased a cholesterol tester and tested my cholesterol once a month. My blood sugar continued to drop and got better week after week and my blood pressure has been way below 120/80 and my cholesterol has remained below 200. I didn’t see any reason to start taking the Meds again. On my next appointment with my doctor, after seeing the numbers he agreed. I no longer need meds.

Best of luck

AddassaMari 2010-01-15 06:45:54 -0600 Report


That is amazing. You prove the point that we have to find out for our selves which foods do what to out blood sugar then take decisive action. That's the story of many who successfully manage their condition. So you figured out that starchy carbs were not your friend. For many people with diabetes, that is the case.

I like what you did with the medication. Many are not able to take that step.

You have done an amazing thing for your body and mind. Keep it up and continue to encourage our community.


JulieC 2010-01-15 07:16:02 -0600 Report

wow..Very encouraging! Im to the point Im going to try some of your stratagies…It makes good sense…Oatmeal also makes my sugar spike, any of the hot cearals do..

AddassaMari 2010-01-15 07:26:28 -0600 Report

I love oatmeal. I find that if I eat some protein with my carbohydrates, my blood sugar is slow to rise,

griz104 2010-01-26 07:05:33 -0600 Report

Ok .. i thought i had better update this since keeping my food journal as suggested.. I had been doing everything 'right' or so i had thought… come to find out that since i loved Coffee so much and do not put Milk in it but use the Powered creamer instead that the was one of my biggest problems! Had never thought that a couple teaspoons of it would jack me up as much as it did.I also was drinking over two dozen cups a day but never took all the creamer into account!! Have now switched from it to Skim milk and it has been so much better as of late! Thank you for all your suggestions.. it's because of the help received here i was able to get this figured out!! This just goes to prove you need to take into account EVERYTHING that goes into your body!!

spiritwalker 2010-01-14 16:05:03 -0600 Report

You need to share this information with your Dr. and diabetes
care team. They will give you the help you need. Write
everything down and take all information with you. That way they can
see all your efforts and what is going on with your bg.
Good luck.

AddassaMari 2010-01-14 13:59:34 -0600 Report

According to my nutritionist, who is nationally certified and accredited, adults need 130g of carbohydrate per day merely to maintain brain and nervous system function. (I know that there are some who advocate low to no grain carb, I don't have issues with that…) Carbohydrate is the bodies preferred source for glucose, because it is more accessible as opposed to converting protein in to sugar for brain function.

Griz, you are doing everything recommended by your physician and nutritionist so it is not what you are doing. It must be 1) Your body cannot handle the amount of carbs in your diet or 2) You may be looking at an increase in current medication or a different type of therapy. I am not a MD, and if I was, I am not yours, so I will not say you need insulin. That's between you and your physician.

What I will recommend is that between now and your next appointment you keep a food journal. You need to see what foods are doing to your blood sugar.

Each person body reacts differently to different foods. If you are testing before and after meals, then the journal will provide a view of your spike pattern in relationship to the foods you eat. With your journal, you and your doctor and dietitian should be able to work out a suitable program that might be able to help you get those numbers below 126.

Creating a Journal

For the week before your appointment, do a food/medication and exercise journal. Get out your scale and measuring cups.

Scale and weight every thing that you eat or drink with calories (water, black coffee, calorie-free drinks, unsweetened tea, condiments and spices does not count, except watch the added salt). Make sure the portion sizes are exact. Do your testing like normal and record the numbers next to that meals menu. Make sure you include the type and dosage of each medication as well as how long you exercise for each day that you exercise.

This should give you a pattern for which foods your body, with the current treatment, can handle and which it cannot. Take your journal with you to your appointment and get input from your physician and nutritionist. Exercise also raises blood glucose for a short time as the body's demand for energy increases.

Sounds complicated, but it is not. This is something all newly diagnosed should do, but most don't so it becomes a struggle to get the right balance between food and medication.

The food diary was recommended by my physician and nutritionist as an integral part of a comprehensive treatment plan so that they can prescribe the right medication in the right dosage to generate the best outcome.

griz104 2010-01-14 16:00:39 -0600 Report

Thank you very much.. that is exactly what i will start doing.. had never though of a food journal.. track all my tests but never that.. it makes sense… I have been on what i thought was to high carb diet since diagnosed..Whole wheat bread.. and oatmeal.. i am going to cut down on them a bit also.. will let you all know what the change will be!

Jeannie Holmes
Jeannie Holmes 2010-01-14 10:28:18 -0600 Report

I had the same problem. I now have to have a shot of insulin a day along with pills. Sometimes being good isn't enough. The shots aren't as bad as you think!

kdroberts 2010-01-14 10:22:22 -0600 Report

You have the exercise right and you are taking a reasonably potent combo of meds, that leaves the diet. Was your recommended diet recommended after your doctor/dietitian reviewed a food diary and blood sugar log that you kept for a month or so? If not I would suggest it is a first attempt that isn't working and needs revision. Try starting here

griz104 2010-01-14 10:26:27 -0600 Report

Thank you for the reply.. i will check it out.. I also thought it may have been with my diet but was doing exactly as Dietitian had told me to do..

kdroberts 2010-01-14 10:35:16 -0600 Report

Trouble is with dietitians is a large number of them dish out generic advice based on outdated information. I'm going to guess that they gave you a low fat, pretty high carb diet. Maybe about 250g carb per day, lots of fruit and whole grains, oatmeal, brown rice, etc? Am I close?

MarthaB 2010-01-14 14:20:33 -0600 Report

Oh, oh. Now I'M concerned. That's just what my doctor told me to eat! Oatmeal with fruit in the morning, whole grain crackers with raw peanut butter for snace, fruit and veges for lunch, same snack, chicken and tossed salad for dinner, and Wasa for evening snack. Not good?????

AddassaMari 2010-01-14 15:49:41 -0600 Report

Carbohydrates are not good or bad, it is a nutrient.There are two types of carbohydrates—- simple and complex. Complex carbohydrates is slowly digested and release a steady flow of glucose into the body, This slow release of glucose is easily handled by normal insulin production. Simple carbohydrates quickly breaks down and dumps glucose into the blood stream which causes spikes in blood glucose levels.

Lipase, an enzyme in saliva begins the digestion process while food is being masticated (chewed). Fructose is a simple monosaccharide found in many foods and dissolves readily in water. Honey, tree fruits, berries, melons, and some root vegetables contain significant amounts of the fructose derivative sucrose (table sugar). Sucrose is a disaccharide derived from the condensation of glucose and fructose. That means that when this sugar come in contact with saliva the each disaccaride molecule breaks into two glucose molecules with the addition of water in a process known as hydrolysis. Chemistry 101. Lesson done for the day.

The long and short of it. Carbohydrate is not good or bad. What is important is how much and what type is eaten at each meal.

For example 1/2 cup unsweetened oatmeal has the same 15 grams of carbohydrate a:
3 cups of raw broccoli,
1/2 cup apple juice,
1 small apple,
17 small grapes,
a 2" square unfrosted brownie,
1 cup chocolate whole milk,
1/2 cup cooked carrots,
1/2 cup mixed salad greens
3 cups of spinach.
So the choice is yours to make. Which is more filling or takes the longest to release glucose..the oatmeal wins hand down unless one wants to eat 3 cups of spinach.

kdroberts 2010-01-14 16:05:33 -0600 Report

The problem is that diabetics have neither normal insulin production nor normal insulin use. All the data about the digestion of carbs, glycemic index, glycemic load, et al have been done on people with normal glucose tolerance and the same results are not repeatable even with different groups of "normal" people.

The only way to know how a specific food affects the individual is to test it out because the theory that complex carb will cause little problems for diabetics as long as the portion is right really doesn't hold water, particularly as the combination of food you eat plays a massive role in how it will be digested.

AddassaMari 2010-01-14 18:27:20 -0600 Report

So you have all that information. Start with what you medical practitioner told you to do. Keep a food/exercise/medication journal. As you try different foods see what they do your blood sugar. That way you can find foods that do not adversely affect your blood sugar.

The glycemic index, glycaemic index, or GI is a measure of the effects of carbohydrates on blood sugar levels. Carbohydrates that break down quickly during digestion and release glucose rapidly into the bloodstream have a high GI; carbohydrates that break down more slowly, releasing glucose more gradually into the bloodstream, have a low GI.

All that means is that some foods will dump a lot of glucose in a short time while others release glucose steadily over a longer period of time. This slow release allow the body time to utilize the glucose.

And because it is a smaller amount of glucose being released at one time, your body is better able to use the available glucose more efficiently and excess does not build up in the blood stream. That also means you should not get those really low lows either.

You don't get those really high blood glucose readings and the levels should return to whatever YOUR doctor says YOUR levels should be however many hours after you eat. If when you test, the levels are not there, you may need to :

1) eat smaller portions more often
2) change the food choices you make
3) try different combinations of foods
4) check the fat contents of your foods (you should do that any way, but that's a whole other subject)

With all that, one of the most important things that a person with diabetes can do is exercise because it is not only good for our whole body, it actual increases insulin sensitivity.

Harlen 2010-01-14 09:53:15 -0600 Report

It looks to me you may need to go on insulin the pills may not do it for you But I am not a Doc I would go see your Doc and tell them whats going on.
it looks to me you are doing all you can.
I wish you the best of luck and hope you dont need to go on insulin but its not the end of the world iether I am now on the pump and my BS is good thank god
Best wishes

griz104 2010-01-14 10:23:47 -0600 Report

That is exactly what i didn't want to happen.. but have another Dr's appointment next week and will see what he has to say.. I don't have a whole lot of faith in him as i moved from Tn. To Pa. and told him i was diagnosed as a diabetic and he just poo..pooed it off for almost a year.. so i figured must be everything was ok.. then after a blood test he informed me i was diabetic and then it was a big deal.. i told him i had told him that almost a year before and he got upset with me.. It was his mistake…