Number vs actual feeling good

NewTerry19
By NewTerry19 Latest Reply 2010-12-09 18:17:40 -0600
Started 2010-01-13 20:00:09 -0600

I'm am so tired of everyone lookin at "THE NUMBERS"! Don't get me wrong I know they are important, but isn't feeling good important too?
My last A1c was 8.7, not whaere the DR wants, but damn good for me! the two prior to that was a 9 and 12.5, so I'm gettin it where it needs to be, but I FEEL GREAT!
I do not have High blood pressure but am takin Lisinapril 2.5mg, just to protect my kidneys, and my last bllod pressure reading was 113/82, doc says it was a little high, Again…I FEEL GREAT!
My last BS was 192, The doc would consider that a little high but again I FEEL GREAT!
Afew years back when I was in ICU for DKA, I feelt great ( the next day) but they wouldn't let me get up from bed bcuz the numbers were too high, then the doctor told the nurse that she should look at her patient to see how they llok and feel, the numbers will not always tell you how the patient feels, and I AGREE 100%.
My numbers may not always be where the DR wants them, but she should see how hard I am tryin to get them there and HOW I FEEL!!!!
I am just courious if any one else have the same feelings??
But PLEASE keep in mind that I am by now means sayin the numbers are not important, bcuz I know they are, but so is feelin good about where you are and what you are doin.


25 replies

MAYS
MAYS 2010-02-16 19:39:47 -0600 Report

Do you understand the type of damage that is done to your internal organs when your BS levels are continously over 140 ?
Regardless of how you may feel, as a diabetic when you begin to feel bad, major damage has already occured.
The damage done to your internal organs can never be repaired only slowed down temporarily.

Do you have any books on diabetes and it's complications ?
Remember ALL of your organs are being affected, diabetes is not selective or discriminative, it's all up to you, educate yourself on diabetes, feelings can be deceptive at times.
Don't take my words as an insult to you, take them as a warning to avoid inevitable damage and possible death !

" Mays "

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-02-20 08:14:57 -0600 Report

Yes i do have books on diabetes and the complication and oodles of cookbooks. I also know that the damange is done. I do not ignor my diabetes, but I honestly feel that if a person feels good they are more likely todo better then when they or down, well atleast fer me.
My current Endo is the one that really got me goin bout this, then I find out she doesnt work with many type 1s that are on the pump, so it time for me to get a new Endo, thats all that this started out and some how everyone thinks I am not aking care of myself, this last week I have had to take off work to take care of my mother who just got over her cancer treatments and then had to go to the hospital to have her heart check, and my sugars have remained in the 115ish range, so I think I know what I am doing, This dicussion should just be dropped.

alanbossman
alanbossman 2010-01-13 21:36:06 -0600 Report

I agree with kdroberts,if your body is used to higher blood sugar it gets used to that and you dont feel bad until it goes even higher and you end up in the hospital.
When you get your numbers in control it will take time and you will feel good. with lower numbers.
Alan

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-01-14 08:56:09 -0600 Report

My body is use to the "highs" & "normals", the lows get confusin at times, but I just go on and do what I have always done and SEEMS to be working.

ptsparkle
ptsparkle 2010-01-14 09:45:50 -0600 Report

What don't you understand about denial?? I wish I would have pulled ny head out a lot sooner! What KD said should shake you to the bones, not but, but, but. Sorry if I seem harsh, but sometimes we need to be smacked on the back of our heads and told "wake up!
Jim

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-02-16 19:22:32 -0600 Report

I AM NOT IN DENIAL!!! Cuz if I were in denial after 14 yrs I would not be typin here and now. I do understand all the silent killers, and have experienced some of them, but my main point is, I feel good and do what I should Most of the time. My numbers are comin down to the good range and my silent killers have stopped, but the doctors should see how I am feeling AND looking at the fact that the numbers are coming down, don't tell me I'm in denial if the numbers are coming down, ENCOURAGE me to continue. I do think it is important for the way a person feels will affect the numbers, I am proof of that, whether y'all believe me or not. I see what I am doing everyday to get there. Yea me!!!

cc9
cc9 2010-02-16 20:12:31 -0600 Report

new terry19. woah hang on a minute! i think ppl here are just concerned that you dont take bsl complacently! the body is a complex miracle and sometimes other things may mask what is happening because you are feeling good. or for some people who have experienced trauma may be dissociative. so fo what ever reasons, damage is being done. and some of the friends here are living the reality of diabetic complications and want to ensure we all are proactive in preventing or prolonging the onset of more complications.

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-02-20 08:08:08 -0600 Report

I understand that now matter how I feel that is damange and some of it as been worked on like my right eye, I am trying and doing better, It just gets to me when ppl tell me in denial.When I was first told I went into major denial, but after spending a week in the hospital and several diabetes classes (which were mainly for type 2s) and dieticans I learned, I know I'm not the Perfect diabetic and the damanage is done, but I am workin on it, and with me doing that I feel great. I haven't stopped doing what I am suppose to, may not do it right all the time but I think we all slip everyonce in a while.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2010-01-13 20:54:46 -0600 Report

I get what you are saying. I also know that I have to rely on numbers to keep myself honest. It isn't numbers OR feeling good, it's numbers AND feeling good. kdroberts is so right about the silent damage that diabetes causes all while the person might be feeling just fine.

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-01-14 08:54:17 -0600 Report

I get the silent damange, and I do feel great all of the time whether my numbers are high or "normal", What I donn't get is how sometimes I can be at 46 and not feel it, but at other times when I am at 65ish I like I'm about to pass out????

spiritwalker
spiritwalker 2010-01-13 20:52:00 -0600 Report

You can feel good at the numbers you mentioned,but its
the internal damage that you don't feel that the Dr. is concerned
about. There are so many things you can do now to prevent problems in the years to come. Once your start seeing black
spots or spiders you have Diabetic eye problems. They can be treated but the damage is done. Once you start with numbness the neuropathy is there to stay and it
usually progresses. There are many other things.
The best way to keep things like this from happening is
to do all you can to get and keep your numbers in line.
Just keep doing your best. It isn' easy, but it is worth it.
Good luck.

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-01-14 08:51:48 -0600 Report

See I have the "eternal" damange, I've had eye surgery twice on my rgt eye, and I think has done more damage, I cant see any better ike they said I woul, granted the "leakage" has stopped, which is a good thing, but the blurred stuff is still there. The nerve damange is gettin better, I really notice that, but all my blood work is good, so again I stay confused bout the numbers and feelin good

JulieC
JulieC 2010-01-13 20:22:44 -0600 Report

HALLALUAH!! LOL Somebody that thinks like me!! My #s range from 140 to 190 and I feel wonderfull! Every time they put me on a new med…it makes me sick and tired and my body achs. I feel awfull. I have tried several diff meds and allways the same reaction. Right now I am only on glimpizde and levimer and feel so good and energetic…but…my numbers are a little high. I dont have high blood pressure or cholesteral or any of that jumk. just the diabeties. If I eat exactly what Im supost to my #s are pretty good..its just hard to keep up on that. Yes I totaly agree…the better you feel..the more you move and exersice. good.. the better you feel…the more you want to fight and do what your supost to do..instead of being depressed and not getting off the sofa. The better you feel the better for everything. I have begged and pleaded with my doctors to explain that to me…they have no answer. I want to feel good and full of energy…that helps to loose weight and get better #s. So what are we supost to do?

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-01-14 08:48:21 -0600 Report

I am soo glad there are others who feel the same way I do, No matter what I do to get my BS where the doc wants I can't keep them there, so I do not know what to do, when someone finds out PLEASE let me know

Harlen
Harlen 2010-01-13 20:13:26 -0600 Report

Me too I was use to being High and when I was down to the numbers that the Doc sed where good I felt like junk
It was 4 months befor I sterted to feel better at the lower numbers now at 155 I feel like junk and 65 I feel bad
and thats a good thing
At first it was so hard not to just stop and give up I felt so bad all the time
My wife is a RN so she was on my butt all the time if I was going to get a snack that was bad for me lol
noe I feel grate at 90 and have a lot of pep in my step lol
Hope this helps frend
Hang in there it gets better
Harlen

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-01-14 08:46:39 -0600 Report

I use to be real good at checkin myself and countin carbs and all that, but the numbers weren't changin, so I just did what I liked and no change, my husband use to get on to me then he said "if Your not guna care thaen I won't either", it's not that he doesn't care cuz I know he does, he just gets tired of "remindin me to check myself

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-01-13 20:07:09 -0600 Report

Feeling good is important but can also be dangerous with diabetes. You may be feeling good right now with those numbers but unfortunately they are slowly causing permanent damage to your body and sooner or later complications will start to show up. Then you will not be feeling great. Some of the complications can be slowed down or reversed once they start but many can't. It's an unfortunate part of diabetes (type 2 especially), bad blood sugar control now usually won't cause noticeable damage now but it is causing damage that will show up later when there is a lot less you can do about it. Just reason 1001 why diabetes sucks.

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-01-14 08:43:41 -0600 Report

I get what you are saying and understand that, but (which there shouldn't any "buts") everyone diabetes is different, what may work for one diabetic doesn't always work for another diabetic, thats where it get so confusing.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-01-14 09:07:45 -0600 Report

True, what works for one person won't always work far another. However high blood sugar (like yours as well as slightly lower and higher levels) are not like that, it's a guarantee that you will have complications at some point soon. The higher the blood sugar the sooner the complications will show up.

Just to give you an example of how diabetes is a whole body disease and what high blood sugar will (not may, will) do to anybody.

1. 60% of non-traumatic limb amputations are because of diabetes.
2. Two out of three people with diabetes will die from heart disease or stroke.
3. Diabetes is the leading cause of new cases of blindness in adults.
4. Diabetes is the leading cause of kidney failure.
5. Diabetes causes more deaths a year than breast cancer and AIDS combined.
6. Diabetes is a major cause of tooth and gum disorders.

I'm all for working out what works for the individual but that doesn't apply to the end goal of good blood sugar control and prevention of complications. The only exception I give is for very elderly patients who will die before complications set in and where the treatment would cause more damage than it would prevent.

NewTerry19
NewTerry19 2010-01-14 13:01:14 -0600 Report

I agree that good control is crucial and very important, but what I am having trouble with is why if it different with each individual then shouldn't hte numbers be the same???? I have been a type 1 for 14yrs and am on the pump again, my doctors have always been workin with me on my A1c and meals (because I am carb sensitive), but this new doc says I should only eat 3 meals a day and my high activity at work will not affect my BS with a good carb breakfast, well my first problem is I don't eat brakfast, never have, never will, it's just not a meal I am hungry for, may not be the best answer, but the only one I got. And this eatin at the same time everyday is also difficult, because of my different hours at work and home.
Just need some ADVICE on how to not get so frustrated with the numbers and the docs plan. I already have had complications, and don't want anymore or for them to worsen.
Thanks

Eversinging1
Eversinging1 2010-12-09 14:10:56 -0600 Report

If you're back on the pump then apparently what you've been doing hasn't been working. You might want to revisit the mindset you have and make some changes. It's good that you feel good, but the goal should be to feel good and live a long healthy life, not just living in the minute. Good luck to you.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2010-01-14 13:13:53 -0600 Report

I don't know what to really say, you seem pretty sure about things. Everybody is different and their body has a different need for insulin, different levels of insulin sensitivity, different reaction to man mad drugs, etc. complications from diabetes are not like that as you have found out with your complications. Unfortunately for you they will get worse and you will get more unless you can get your numbers down into a range that isn't causing damage.

Eversinging1
Eversinging1 2010-12-09 18:17:40 -0600 Report

That is hard to do. So many doctors are just in it for the money, not for the patient. But there are good ones out there. Hope you find one that works for you!

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