Animal Lover, Not Eater

By dietcherry Latest Reply 2010-02-02 16:47:01 -0600
Started 2010-01-07 18:20:40 -0600

Hey Everyone! I need your help. I have not liked to eat meat since the age of 6 when my sister told me that it was animal flesh! (Thanks, Karen!) I cried all night and have not been the same since! Anyway, the thought of eating meat pretty much turns my stomach; I can eat it at times, but it cannot resemble an animal WHATSOEVER! No blood, bones, etc. So, Deb-G let me in on the fact that I need to be balancing my carb intake with protein in order to smooth out the mood spikes when my BS is boomeranging. I love beans, legumes, nuts, and eggs but I don't want them everyday! I know when I used to be an aerobics instructor, the muscleheads at the gym took branched-chain amino acids to increase their protein consumption. Does anyone know if this is a good substitute or any other suggestions on how I can get more protein in my diet? Thanx!

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Turtle 2010-01-09 20:48:19 -0600 Report

I will take a non popular stance w/ some of the men here and w/ everyone else. I am totally against hunting. There is food provided for us in the stores and I think if we are going to eat meat that is where we should get it from. This is my belief and I do not want to step on toes but I will stick to it.

dietcherry 2010-01-09 21:44:11 -0600 Report

Hey Turtle! I am with you on hunting! My ex hunted deer and, although I never interfered with his love or pursuit of it, I absolutely forbid him to bring the carcasses back to the house! Instead, he took them to my brothers' house and sectioned them. My brother had a smokehouse and I loved the deer jerky he made for us! However, there was no other type of venison I would eat. Renee :)

Deb-G 2010-01-09 22:39:21 -0600 Report

There is absolutely nothing wrong with hating hunting…For sure not everyone can participate in it…and its definitely easier to buy it all fixed up and killed by someone else and prepared by someone else…I come from a long line of family that hunts, but I do not…I do however eat meat…and honestly…If you've ever been to a slaughter house…The hunted have a much better deal :( Either way its on your plate…but i do "get it" that its easier to bypass all that and get the final product…The circle of life is so unkind sometimes…but think about your nourishment as survival and thank the animal providing your protein and "life"…Hunting is one of those subjects like Politics, & Religion that is better off not talked about LOL

We all have our own feelings on alot of subjects like that which are controversial…and thats totally OKAY :)

Its so cold out today…I have the heat cranked! lol

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-09 22:48:52 -0600 Report

Of course, if the thought of eating meat makes you sick, don't! I am sure that many have survived without eating it. I know a girl that can eat only Cheerios and ice cream, all of her life, she married and had a family, and diet did not change. Don't ask—-last time I heard she was still kicking, but it might not be too strongly!

Personally, I can eat meat IF circumstances are right—-hubby would bring home duck, wild turkeys, he was a coon hunter too, but we didn't eat them. Also deer meat——I just cant bring myself to eat, "Bambi" but probably could if I was hungry enough and I had no other choices! Best of Luck in finding your own type of protein, as I KNOW that it is essential to our health!! That cheerios and ice cream is ridiculous, I THINK! Thankfully she WASN'T my daughter! She had her own dislikes, tomatoes/ etc—haha—Pat r

donna13 2010-01-10 18:37:24 -0600 Report

My husband hunted and I hated the thought. One time I told him I could understand that the herd had to culled, but I could never understand that anyone could look a beautiful deer in the eye and blow it away. He went hunting shortly before he died and told me a beautiful buck walked by his blind, and he just looked at it and couldn't pull the trigger.

griz104 2010-02-02 16:47:01 -0600 Report

I also do not eat very much meat.. but do have to admit that every now and again when i am out on the Harley a very good Cheese steak is in order.. But as for getting my protein i also buy Whey powder.. and i also eat quite a bit of seafood.. I love to fish so the area i live in has a lot of salmon and trout..But i am a exercise freak and need protein.. I usually buy mine from a web site i have found has very good prices.. it is…

Anonymous 2010-01-09 11:58:22 -0600 Report

could you not sub some tofu? i hear it is great for protein and there are some really great tofu recipes out there now.

dietcherry 2010-01-09 12:24:24 -0600 Report

Tofu is a great idea for me! I have an extremely difficult time preparing meat: the look and smell when it is raw about knocks me out with nausea! I have never had tofu but know vegetarians use it. Can you buy it at any grocery store or do you have to go to a health food store? I thank you for your willingness to help me! Renee :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-09 12:31:48 -0600 Report

I am glad that you are finding some appropriate substitutes, Cherry! There are times when the smell of cooking meat is repulsive to even me. Especially boiled chicken—-usually throw in an onion to knock the odor!
Best wishes!! PR

dietcherry 2010-01-09 12:41:58 -0600 Report

Amen, Pat! I CANNOT cook raw meat without gagging! And I REALLY have a problem with bones! YUCK! Blood? GROSS! Sometimes, a restaurant meal of meat can hit the spot without reminding me of what I am eating. I do love eggs but so much conflicting info coming at us all the time concernig their true value to our diets! Renee :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-09 12:44:52 -0600 Report

I know, one likes and uses certain foods for years, only to hear later how detrimental they are to our bodies! I figure that being 77 yrs, I have lived long enough and have eaten about everything, that I can disprove a lot of those tales! haa—Pat R

Deb-G 2010-01-09 19:10:32 -0600 Report

Yikes!…while I am a meat eater I cant eat things that use to be living RAW…I just cant do it lol…

The obvious reasons to me are all the Parasites, Heavy Metals, Bacteria, and candida risks that come from not cooking it…Even Turkey etc I have a meat thermometer and cook it to a proper temp…

I'm not a germaphobe but…Parasites and the idea of other bacteria make me NEED to cook it…lol

Maybe its because I'm in the health field…Gotta cook it! lol

Pam from KCMO
Pam from KCMO 2010-01-09 13:01:14 -0600 Report

Tofu is in the mainstream grocery stores now, at least here in the city. I usually find it near the vegetables in a refrigerated or cool case. It comes in a couple different consistencies depending on what you use it for. As for vegetarian cookbooks, I love anything from Moosewood. No food counts, tho.

And tofu is made of soybeans. Basically it's bean curd. High protein, no fat, high in iron. Google 'tofu recipes' and you'll have thousands to choose from!

dietcherry 2010-01-09 13:19:18 -0600 Report

Hey Pam! How are you? I will look for tofu next time at the grocery store. I know of people who have used it-some are enthusiastic about it-others, not so much. So, I just kinda put it out of mind as something I wanted to look into. I think it is really important for me to get more protein. I have literally gone days at a time without getting a pure protein source and am now seeing that I have compromised my own good health. This wil also hopefully relieve the moodiness I'm experiencing with swinging. Whoda thunk?! Renee :)

Pam from KCMO
Pam from KCMO 2010-01-09 18:08:44 -0600 Report

I'm doing well today, Renee, thanks for asking! Hope the same can be said for you! (I love weekends…)

I don't cook with tofu a lot, being your basic carnivore, and I tend to use it when there are a lot of other ingredients so there's lots of flavor. Try it and see what you think! (Soybeans are supposedly really good for you…)

AddassaMari 2010-01-09 15:07:01 -0600 Report

There is soft, medium and firm,depends on how much liquid is left in the curd. The firm is good for recipes that have liquids like soups, because it won't fall apart.

Kirla 2010-01-09 11:24:28 -0600 Report


I used to drink an Atkins Shake for breakfast in the morning. All the flavors taste good and they’re high in protein. They can be a bit expensive so now I use the EAS protein powder and mix it with home made soymilk or home made almond milk. The almond milk is easier to make. I couldn’t get the beanie flavor out of the soymilk until I ran across an article that said to blanch the soybeans for five minutes in boiling water with 1 teaspoon of baking soda. Blanch twice. Then mix in blender with boiling water. Got to remove the small piece of plastic in the center of the cover. Almond milk you just soak the beans for a day or so then mix in a blender with cold water. You need to strain the milk and there pretty good. Both soybeans and almonds need to soak in water for at least 8 hours and I soak mine for about 24 hours.

After being diagnosed I stopped eating toast in the morning and switch to oatmeal. Oatmeal spiked my sugar so I tried TVP oatmeal which was much better but still spiked my sugar more than what I liked. I seen the Atkins shakes in BJ’s on sale and tried them. They tasted great and only spiked my sugar 10 – 30 points. Most days under 20. The EAS protein powder with the home made milks spike my sugar about the same as Atkins but they cost a whole lot less.


dietcherry 2010-01-09 12:20:23 -0600 Report

OMG, Kevin! This may be the answer for me! What is the source of protein for these drinks? In my original question, I asked if anyone knew anything about branched-chain amino acids. I used to work at a gym and remember the muscleheads using these to get more protein in their diets. I don't know if they are an appropriate substitute, however. But, since they are pills, they can be easily assimilated into anyone's diet, I think. The protein drinks never even blipped on my radar! Are they good substitutes or do they still need to be balanced with meat or plant protein sources? Thank you for your input!!!! Renee :)

Kirla 2010-01-09 12:51:47 -0600 Report


I’m not sure about the blanch-chain amino acids and if a complete source of protein. It’s made from Whey. It has only 2 net carbs per serving and doesn’t spike my sugar. I buy it at BJ’s for 28.00 dollars for a 5 pound bag. Makes 75 servings. Comes in a powder you mix with milk. Taste great. There is a lot of different brands out there you will just have to do some research at different stores to find one you would like to try. I buy mine at BJ’s and that's the only kind they sell. I figure it’s cheap. Great for breakfast. I usually have 1oz of sunflower seed for a morning snack. Between the shake and sunflower seeds I don’t get hungry before lunch.
Wal-Mart sell a soymilk 8th continent for around $3.00 a half gallon that only has 2 net carbs if you don’t make your own. Tomorrow I’m going to try homemade Walnut milk.

Best of luck

dietcherry 2010-01-09 13:07:14 -0600 Report

This is so valuable to me! Thank you so much for everything you are sharing with all of us! I am excited about starting on protein powder! Amazing to me that I have known about it all these years but it never registered as an option for me-I have always just associated it with body builders! Incredible! Renee :)

Deb-G 2010-01-09 19:00:55 -0600 Report

GNC also sells a Powder Supplement that also gives you your complete daily vitamin - nutritional needs…Its GNC Ultra-Mega for women…I dont have the thing infront of me but its only 95 calories (unless you use milk, but its fine with water)…and only 14g carb but has everything else you need daily…vitamins, minerals, calcium…yadda yadda…I love this for my mid-day snack sometimes because its nutritionally beneficial and low carb and low Calorie!

If your looking for Protein supplementation without anything else…Pro-Mod Powder is a supplement used nutritionally to add protein without adding a thing else…you just mix it into your yogurt, oatmeal, whatever your having and it adds protein content without extra anything else…its used tremendously for some medical needs…

I just happen to like the chocolate powder mix that gives me all my daily essentials too :)

Deb-G 2010-01-09 18:56:52 -0600 Report

The Atkins protein bars are great too…they're only 19g of carb and a whopping 17g of protein!…Ignore the cardboard taste rofl…Just kidding…they are a bit of an adjustment from the very sweet granola type snack/meal bars but if you find a flavor you can enjoy they are a great snack to keep level and energized!

dietcherry 2010-01-09 11:03:37 -0600 Report

Sorry, Everyone! There was a death in the family of a good friends and I have not been able to keep up with what is going on here since I started the discussion! I am excited about reading what everyone has posted and responding to it! Looks like ya have been really busy! Renee :)

AddassaMari 2010-01-09 11:30:51 -0600 Report

Sorry for your loss. Each death diminishes our world.

dietcherry 2010-01-09 13:02:01 -0600 Report

Thank you, addassamari! Difficult days ahead. Renee

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-09 22:25:53 -0600 Report

Of course, Renee! We too just got word today that our nephew of 65 yrs. died in his sleep, no health problems, had been the support of his ailing wife that is fighting cancer for at least 8 years, was a good grandfather to his daughter's 2 children, not married so it meant a lot on him——-another family member had just been diagnosed with cancer and Dean was going up to see him and stay for a few days. But the Good Lord called him home.
I feel for you too, and will add you and your families to our prayers!!
Also my cousin, like a sister to me—as I had no siblings—-had surgery Tues, then a bleed in her brain, a stroke, cant talk or use her left arm—-will go up tomorrow to the city to relieve her daughter who is about wiped out!! Hopefully I will be able to relieve her at the bedside for a bit—-waiting is so HARD!! Later—PR

dietcherry 2010-01-09 23:03:24 -0600 Report

Oh, Pat! I am so sorry for your family's loss! Lots of Love and Prayers are going out to you tonight!!! Renee :)

Pam from KCMO
Pam from KCMO 2010-01-09 05:29:06 -0600 Report

Tofu. It takes on the flavor of whatever you're cooking it with. I like to cube a (firm) block of tofu and add it when I'm cooking stir-fried veggies (in olive oil). Deelish!

You can do a lot with tofu - a good vegetarian cookbook can help.

imsuzie2 2010-01-09 02:56:31 -0600 Report

Jerry, you cracked me up!!! Pat, you are doing great! I just KNOW I was a cat in a Mormon Household in my past life, cuz I love to be petted and scratched, don't drink coffee or tea, and can't dance…but maybe a cow in another life cuz I too love to graze!

I eat meat, but not my first choice. I usually reach for chicken… S2

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-09 11:35:19 -0600 Report

Oh, I LOVE that image, a cat in a Mormon household! How unique!! Lets see, I love to be petted too, but can claw and hiss when I get mad, so maybe, I was a cat too, as far as the household, maybe an alley cat, as I am SCRAPPY! haha—-Love, PAT R

Me2 2010-01-08 20:36:08 -0600 Report

I respect your being a vegetarian. We all make choices for various reasons. My brother and sister-in-law are vegetarians and when they visit me I am sure to cook for "them." There are so many products out there today that mimic meat like "Go Lean," which tastes like hamburg but made of soy along with "Quorn" which tastes like chicken but also made of soy. Soy hotdogs, good tofu, fake bacon, etd. Just check your vegetarian aisle in your supermarket. There are also some very good frozen dinners by "Amy." Good luck and I hope you find something you like.

redglitter 2010-01-09 02:38:49 -0600 Report

I too respect your meatless convictions and understand as I was a veggie for about four years, fell off the wagon and am now getting back on. I eat a lot of beans,cheese, peanut butter and eggs. For dishes that call for meat, I use Morningstar Farms products or Boca Burger. Both found in the frozen foods section. :)

dietcherry 2010-01-09 12:10:02 -0600 Report

I am not so much a vegetarian; I have unpleasant memories associated with meat-eating and they flood in and overwhelm me when I think of or am presented with certain foods. I am not bothered by it to any extent that I need counseling for it; it's just interferes with my ability to choose certain meat products for my diet. So,I am limited in what I can eat for my protein intake! But, I so admire vegetarians! It is honorable to me that they don't eat animal flesh! Renee :)

AddassaMari 2010-01-08 19:13:47 -0600 Report

Deb-G pretty much covers it. I eat very lean meats because I have to watch my cholesterol. I get a lot of protein from plants, beans, legumes, lentils. Which counts as carb and protein.

Kinda killing two birds with one stone, eh Harlen.

dietcherry 2010-01-09 11:54:50 -0600 Report

Thanx! I eat mostly pintos, black beans, white beans and navy when I do eat beans; I like limas, too. Maybe I should get a bean cookbook to expand my bean repertoire! LOL Renee :)

AddassaMari 2010-01-09 12:26:15 -0600 Report

One of my favorite vegetarian cookbook is "The Best Ever Vegetatian" by Linda Fraser. The only thing I don't like about it is that it does not give nutritional facts for each recipe. But heck it is vegetables and 1/2 cup cooked veggies is one serving with15g of Carbs.

Turtle 2010-01-08 16:50:48 -0600 Report

Peanut-butter is a great source of protein. You can eat it right out of the jar or on bread, toast, or cracker…or on cheese. Cheese is a great source of protein too..
Good luck!

dietcherry 2010-01-09 11:51:32 -0600 Report

I LOVE peanut butter, Turtle! I eat it alot but it is limited in its ability to satisfy me on a daily basis-and that is the problem I am encountering-variety! Renee :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-08 15:26:52 -0600 Report

I decided to boil a couple of eggs, not too many at a time—for me—-for my afternoon snackie plan—-I HATE this but is essential, I now see!!! hahaPR

Harley Chick
Harley Chick 2010-01-08 07:50:51 -0600 Report

Would you consider something like canned tuna? It has no carbs or sugar and the best part is no bones and doesn't look like an animal. Give it a try!!

dietcherry 2010-01-09 11:46:10 -0600 Report

Yes, I CAN eat seafood and ain't it delicious! It's more the price that limits me from eating alot of it; my Endo knows of my problem with meat and he encourages other protein sources, but he is limited (or acts like it) and reminds me of the fat in dairy, mercury in tuna, etc. Renee :)

ptsparkle 2010-01-07 19:58:13 -0600 Report

Sorry, I'm with Harlen. If you want to skip the hunting part, go buy a pound of beef, pound of pork, pound of chicken and turkey. Have someone cook it for you, medium rare. After cooling for 10 minutes, divide into equal parts, then place in blender and puree. Fill glass, add mint leaf and a twist of lemon. Bottoms up
O.k., I know that was cruel.but I don't have an answer for you. Maybe just baby bites with baby steps.

Deb-G 2010-01-07 20:45:18 -0600 Report

LOL…ok I must be a man…cause I love meat too…lol…

But back to good protein sources…limiting the carbs with it…

Meat aside other choices could be:

*skim milk for 8g protein
(soy milk has less protein)
*Greek Style Yogurt like "Oikos" or "chopani" brands are loaded with 13-14g per 5 oz.
*Light cheese stick is 5-8g protein
*low fat cheeses run around 7g
*Cottage cheese that I LOVE myself is a good one because its 14-15g protein in just a 1/2 cup. (low fat)
*Eggs are only 6g so occasionally
*Fish of course, tuna, cod, shrimp, lobster, salmon all run about 7g per ounce
*Beans and Lentils…are 6-9g depending on type…(I hate beans so not sure of all)
*Soy products can be good sources (TOFU ETC) …but…well..yuk lol…but i admitt I have not tried either!
*Nuts BUT limit portion size!
Peanuts, almonds are the best at 9g per 1/4 cup…but for a snack this is perfect! cashews and pistachios have less protein but are still fine 1/4 c

*Peanut butter is a good source at 9g…BUT…again we're talking the "Natural" Peanut butter not the kiddie sweetened kind…and its actually not bad on a cracker or rice cake…just 2 Tbsp is 9g…

*Atkins protein Bars
*South Beach Protein Bars
(Not all protein bars are low in carbs…only pick the ones that the protein grams and the carb grams are very close) If its got 23g of carbs and only 2g of protein…dont buy the bar its worthless :)

These are just a few things off the top of my head that I am working on using to stay level and avoid roller coaster swings that make me seizure…

Protein/Carb Ratio = >1 for perfect control…Its really really hard to do…but the goal is to get as close as possible to create balance and slower carb absorption in the body…

I'm still learning this stuff myself!…I'm willing to work on anything to avoid the seizures…and by watching the protein as well as the carbs its really keeping me on an even plane…so its working well for me…Hope so for you too :)

Deb-G 2010-01-07 20:54:20 -0600 Report


If ya could just find a deli meat you didn't mind…even chicken…1 ounce is 5g of protein and only 30 a nice snack…

Meats and Fish are the least in Calories, Nuts are the Most…Beans and Dairy are in the middle somewhere strictly talking calories if you dont want your "snack" to be a diet issue…

You can roll up deli meat for 5g and only 30 cal.

or grab a piece of cooked chicken that you previously baked etc for a nice 8g and pretty low cal…Only think about an ounce for a snack…Ham is good at 7g..all these meats are about 50/60 cal per ounce

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-07 23:02:31 -0600 Report

Thanks, Deb! You put it so I could get it—it makes sense to try and half and half carbs with protein, so they will balance each other out. Is that how you meant it?

I am beginning to see that when my BS was 202 this afternoon, I took 1/4 of a Glipizide, (I told my Dr it drops me so much, so fast—-)and an hour later it was 72, and I WAS STARVED!! I really hadn't let myself be aware of that before—-so can see how one gets started on the yo-yo- thing, MUST CONTROL (I can read that word now, and LAUGH!!) my over eating, not listen to those hunger pangs——drink more water or something till my body regains its balance! Golly whiz, I sure am glad that I do NOT have seizures, or I would have to live in a bare house!! Hugs, Pat R

Deb-G 2010-01-08 07:15:36 -0600 Report

Yes exactly Pat…The protein works to slow down the way your body processes the Carbs…So its important to be sure your protein content is enough…

Even if you have a sweet craving…say for a bit of ice cream…yanno, have a lil bit…then after have a little protein…it just slows down the absorption of the sugar/carb…so you dont spike, and then later experience a low blood sugar…

Its the High, Low, High, Low roller coaster ride that makes us unstable…so the proteins goal is to limit the spikes and prevent the later lows…it actually has worked well for me…I've been much less reactive paying attention to my protein…

and i need stuff SIMPLE or i'm not going to do it…so I go right to the grams and try and keep the totals close :)

Deb-G 2010-01-08 11:40:40 -0600 Report

I totally know what you mean about "wrapping your mind around it"…I had a nutritionalist once hand me a glycemic index list and my eyes instantly glazed over…I know me…there is no way in hell i'm going to look up and calculate every single little thing…

So she simplified it by filling me in on the ratio of carb/protein…this is pretty much what makes things good or bad on the index…

Simple = good for me lol

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-08 14:44:53 -0600 Report

Yep, simple, MIGHT be able to rev the old mind up to FIGURE stuff out, but why? I have earned my Brownie Points in the past years, by OVER THINKING!! So My mind is now on a slow vacation!

Sadness in our area, a family just south of town lost their home and EVERYTHING in it at 3:30 am, with nothing but the clothes on their back! There are several children, one a 16 yr old new mom—baby 4 days old! Man, Are we ever THANKFUL!!! Warm hugs, Pat R

Deb-G 2010-01-08 15:12:14 -0600 Report

So very sad! :( Fire I assume?…We are blessed in so many ways if we look at the bigger picture :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-08 15:25:31 -0600 Report

Oh, sure, it BURNED to the ground—my mind THINKS but doesn't always convey all of the words that it should! hah—On Facebook there is a request for clothes and furniture, and their sizes—If I could get some of my folks furniture to them, I could contribite something like that—not any clothes their size, but should buy them some—-wish it wasn't so cold out, I do hate to get out in this!! PR

dietcherry 2010-01-09 11:41:07 -0600 Report

Deb, you are so knowledgable about this stuff; you should be a dietician for diabetics as I think alot of us here are looking up to you at this point to lead the way! Thank you so much for all of this information! Renee :)

dietcherry 2010-01-09 11:37:26 -0600 Report

Thanx, Jim! Must excuse myself to go throw up now! LOL Renee :)

Deb-G 2010-01-09 17:30:57 -0600 Report

I am only knowledgable about it cause it keeps me from flopping around LOL…All kidding aside :( I still have MUCH to learn! :)

Anonymous 2010-01-07 19:22:41 -0600 Report

I understand, I think. I took anatomy and disected so many creatures including working on a human cadaver that I sometimes have a hard time eating flesh. And Harlan I have family who are hunters and I just can't eat it much less be around when it is prepped and butchered. This latest thing with foodies of knowing where food comes from..OK I'll plant veggies and pull them out of the dirt, wash them, cook them, etc, but I could no more butcher a chicken than I could commit homicide. I'm chronically anemic in part because I don't eat a lot of red meat. I'm such a weenie…OOPS bad choice of words..LOL

dietcherry 2010-01-09 11:36:11 -0600 Report

Strangely enough, hot dogs are one of the very few meats I can eat with no sick feelings arising!!! I know ya are laughing because hot dogs are really nasty, but a blackened hot dog off the grill with mustard is delicious! LOL! Renee :)

Anonymous 2010-01-09 19:25:39 -0600 Report

My uncle drove pigs to stockyards in Chicago years and years ago when stockyards were still operating. After his first trip, he never ate another hot dog!!!! Died "with only the curl in the pig's tail" under his belt…

Harlen 2010-01-07 19:02:20 -0600 Report

To all I am sorry for my coment lol
You need to go out and kill something and eat it that will take care of your prob nothing better then freesh lol
I do hope you can work it out
Best wishes

dietcherry 2010-01-09 11:28:51 -0600 Report

Thanks for that timely input, Harlan! LOL I don't have a problem with others eating meat; but, for me it is associated with unpleasant memories that surface with "certain meat". it is very powerful and I have not been able to overcome it and, really, don't see a reason to except for the fact that there are very few protein sources otherwise, and they aren't things I enjoy on a daily basis. If I weren't diabetic I probably would be full-blown vegetarian, even though I know they need protein, too. But I can't fully commit to that lifestyle because I DO enjoy some meat! Renee :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-07 18:49:59 -0600 Report

What about Tuna or Salmon, I don't know much about ratios, like Deb does, but just eat beans, I have some for supper, with a piece of undescribable ham—-it doesn't look like a pig, but it might not be the best protein, but I do eat a bit, once in awhile! God luck on your gathering better information! Hugs , Pat R

dietcherry 2010-01-07 18:54:44 -0600 Report

Yes, Pat! I do love seafood and don't feel quite so bad eating it (poor fish!) but it can be expensive-and mercury levels in the tuna, which my Endo never fails to remind me of. I don't mean to ask for the impossible; maybe I need to be hypnotized or something! :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-07 19:03:49 -0600 Report

Thanks, Cherry—I don't even think of Mercury—no one ever has mentioned it to me—so—No, it is a problem when one can't eat certain things—-My hubby has a long list, and he isn't even a diabetic, just touchy tummy, and he does take antacids. I keep trying to encourage him to go to the Dr again, but he hasn't, won't so if he gets to feeling bad enough, he will go, so I no longer feel guilty for HIS actions. Good Luck—-you may just have to do some COOKING, a topic I try to avoid!! haha—Hugs, Pat r

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-01-07 18:40:25 -0600 Report

I'm waiting to see what Deb-G has to say. I have some suggestions, but, I am afraid to comment at this time…LOL

Deb-G 2010-01-07 20:26:31 -0600 Report

lmao Sue…I am still trying to consider what its like to be primarily vegetarian…Seriously great to anyone that can do that…but man, i'm a Carnivor lol…