By dietcherry Latest Reply 2011-09-25 22:34:57 -0500
Started 2009-12-28 19:29:42 -0600

Hey Everyone! I wanted to start a discussion about how your lows, swings, or highs affect your mood. You have probably been told, like I have, that hypoglycemia causes irritability and argumentativeness. I have to say that, for me, it is when I am running high or when I overcompensate for low blood sugar and send my sugar swinging in the other direction too quickly (boomeranging) that I become ill-tempered. I tried to talk to my Endo about it but he just seemed confused and couldn't offer an explanation. I just wanted to know if there is anyone else that experiences what I do or has difficulty controlling the moodiness that accompanies diabetes.

355 replies

gregsteele 2010-06-11 08:56:44 -0500 Report

Hey dietcherry i know exactly what you are saying i have lows very often sometimes pretty extreme 24-30 afterwards i have such an attitude its ridiculous like you everyone is trying to stuff things into me then i go high and sick to my stomach my dr and i have adjusted my dose but seem to either go to high or have the lows i try to be very diligent over my carb intake to keep levels in range sometimes no problems for 2 weeks then a big low it is very frustrating and causes me to be very irritable and no one gets it love to all GREG

dietcherry 2010-06-11 09:58:53 -0500 Report

Hey Greg! We get it as most of us have experienced it, too. I know it's elementary, but we must test! I have recently started testing twice as much a day because my seizures were just getting out of control and I almost put an eye out during the last one. My BS can bottom out so quickly and I have lost my early warning system after 30 years. And the mood swings are such a lousy side effect of boomeranging BS. Good luck to you! :)

MartinM 2010-07-30 20:55:07 -0500 Report

I was an undiagnosed type 1 diabetic for around a year. The result was that although I was diagnosed in Nov 2007 I already suffer from several chronic peripheral conditions caused by untreated type 1.
I cannot stress enough the importance of testing. Nerve damage caused by type 1 is no joke, and is not likely to heal ever. I test 4-7 times each day, and each time it is an affirmation of my commitment to my health and a deep fear of these existing conditions worsening.
I agree with dietcherry. Do the hard work. good luck.

Elrond 2010-06-11 23:47:37 -0500 Report

Don't feel lonely, Greg. I've been dealing with that kind of thing for nearly 30 years. It got to the point where I accepted a very high blood sugar rather than risk the low sugar and the chance of seizures. Since I started with a new endocrinologist a little over a year ago, my sugar is much more under control and she recently started me on an insulin pump. Now my readings are looking much better and I'm actually looking forward to my next A1C. If you have the luxury of choosing your doctor, shop around.

Betty Cool
Betty Cool 2010-06-07 12:35:03 -0500 Report

I have the same problem with my sugars as well. When it drops I get violent, sometimes because everyone is stuffing food, juice or candy into me and I don't want the sugar to go so high. They just don't seem to understand that 1) It takes some time to come back up after taking food or juice and 2) you can't overtreat a low sugar. I've even gotten sick to my stomach. This disease is so frustrating and hard to keep in control. I've found myself to get very depressed after I come back from a low to the point of actually doing things to myself, just to punish myself for what has happened.

dietcherry 2010-06-11 09:21:00 -0500 Report

Goodness, don't hurt yourself! We're all only human and humans have emotional reactions to life, diabetic or not. If you read back over this thread you will find that most of us experience these swings in temperament but there are ways to minimize it. Insulin is a hormone and any hormonal imbalance in our bodies can cause unpleasant changes, emotionally and physically. Good luck and don't give up the fight! :)

SteveW 2010-06-06 23:19:50 -0500 Report

I get very upset when I take BG and it is very high, as in 250 to 350. I then take 15 to 25 units of insulin and then retake the BG and it drops 25 points.
So I take another 15 to 20 units. But, clearly something is wrong because the BG level has been so minimally effected by the introduction of insulin and that is not supposed to happen. Does anyone else have this problem??????
Or does anyone know why or how this could occur?

dietcherry 2010-06-07 23:58:18 -0500 Report

Hey Steve! I don't know; are you insulin resistant? That seems to be an awful lot of insulin to have such little effect. What does your Endo say? :)

Elrond 2010-06-08 23:11:06 -0500 Report

It also depends on what insulin you're using. If it's a fairly long-acting insulin, you can't expect it to act so quickly. Even Aspart, one of the fastest, only begins to work 10 to 15 minutes after injection and may take up to 30 minutes to have full effect. Others can be much slower.

anadeleo1 2010-05-24 21:54:08 -0500 Report

I have the same problem. I find myself getting very emotional when my blood sugar is low. I get very irritable when my blood sugar is high. I like yourself cant find a way to control these terrible mood swings.

dietcherry 2010-05-25 09:43:57 -0500 Report

Hey anadeleo and welcome to DC! I experience exactly the same emotional reaction as you. Unfortunately, I don't have the answer-was hoping you did and would share it with me! LOL I feel great and emotionally balanced between 90 and about 120 (duh) but once my BS level drops or climbs, I experience a change in mood. That is a tight range to stay in all all day, everyday. I guess maybe we are just more emotionally sensitive to these fluctuations than other people. I am not on the pump and it is not financially feasible for me at this time but I think that would be a good start. Otherwise, something very helpful to me that was touched on in this discussion was to get more protein in my diet to slow absorption of carbs and keep my BS from spiking. Test, test, and keep testing to know what your comfort zone is and try with all your might to stay within it! Good luck and lots of Love! :)

Scorpious1 2010-03-03 18:58:10 -0600 Report

Ok, I have read a lot about this and how folks have these mood swings.

Maybe I haven't noticed them, and no one has said that my moods have been off. As far as I can tell, I don't have them. Is that possible, or am I just not that observant?

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-03-03 20:19:24 -0600 Report

I thot that moodiness was a part of reality, we all have emotions, we are not clones. Sincerely, Pat R

pattyecake 2010-02-21 17:26:39 -0600 Report

About and hour and a-half after I eat, my blood sugar drops occasionally, it comes on fast, I test and it can be as low as in the 30's. I even wake up during the night sometimes when it is dropping.This is happening more often, several times a week and maybe a couple of times a day, especially at work. Any suggestions on why this is happening so often and what I can do about it?

dietcherry 2010-02-22 09:51:48 -0600 Report

Hey Patty! Maybe you are taking to much insulin or meds. Not really enough information to go on but this is what it sounds like. Ask your Doctor about it and what he suggests. Good luck! Renee :)

Blue Angel
Blue Angel 2010-02-22 12:28:48 -0600 Report

Hi Patty, The same thing happen to me when I first started taking my BS. It was 20. I was so dizzy I laid down and when to sleep. I could have been in a coma. God was with me. But I was just learning. Also lucky that I had someone help me. My BS is normally 50-70 . So I had to learn to eat a little more when taking your meds. You have to try to eat a snack in between meals. And this is easier said than done for me too. But I'm trying. Try& see if your sugar come up some. Good Luck. Feel better.

dietcherry 2010-02-03 13:46:41 -0600 Report

Hey Everyone! We may have worn this subject out but since we are still posting here, I thought it was time to start BLOOD SUGAR BLUES 2-I am tired of scrolling to get to the good stuff! If you have anything left to say about the highs, lows, and swings, I will see you there! Renee :)

Elrond 2010-02-03 03:51:45 -0600 Report


I just did a scheduled test and my sugar was 58. I was scheduled for 24 units of Lantus so I took that but I couldn't leave my sugar at 58. What to do? I broke into my emergency chocolate stash. I only ate 10 grams of carb but I certainly savored every nibble!!!!! (Fortunately, there were only 2 pieces left, amounting to 10 grams. That prevented a feeding frenzy.)

AddassaMari 2010-01-25 11:48:17 -0600 Report

I did not know that I was irritable when my BG was not controlled. My children remarked that I am cheerful an not snippy. (I had to hug and apologize). But when I start to get hungry, I get a handful about 1-2 ounces of nuts, almonds, pecans, cashew and a bottle of water. This starves off the munchies and give my poor brain much needed glucose without spiking my blood sugar. I can still eat my meal later as I count my nuts as a snack.

P2putt 2010-01-27 12:11:55 -0600 Report

Very good advice.I was looking for something that would be helpful when my BS begns to drop. Thank you,I appreciate you r ideas.Pete/P2putt

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-27 20:39:48 -0600 Report

Hmmm, I thought that Adda was going to get a handful of nuts and "THROW THEM"!! That might make a better impression! haha—I know, it is fortunate that I don't always do what I am thinking!! haha—PR

imsuzie2 2010-01-29 22:28:51 -0600 Report

Gail, the nuts work, for 10 to 15 minutes. Guess I need to wash them down with MUCH more water. Kinda hard to drink too much at work…call center, phone. Can you please hold? Bathroom calls…yeah, not gonna happen! LOL

AddassaMari 2010-01-29 22:46:57 -0600 Report

I used to work in a call center, so I know what you mean. Don't you just hate it when your last call before a break turns out to be some chatty person.

If the nuts don't work, try some raw or blanched vegetables like carrots stick, broccoli or cauliflower florets, green beans, etc. Even a small side salad might help. The trick is to find something that is low carb that will curb your hunger. You may have to experiment with different foods.

imsuzie2 2010-01-30 02:19:53 -0600 Report

That sounds like fun. Can I eat them one after another??? LOL Seriously, I love my baby carrots, celery and cukes. I should (oops, sorry for swearing there)…I mean to buy cukes more often, but by the time I get home from the store (try to walk the whole store, aisle by aisle for the extra exercise), usually after work, I am tired, have to make dinner, and the cukes and celery are still sitting in the fridge the next day (and the next). Baby carrots are ready to go. The ready clean carrots and celery in water just don't taste as fresh or seem to last as long as the others. Sigh. I feel lazy.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-30 11:13:00 -0600 Report

No, Suzie, NOT lazy, just exhausted!! My shortcut to fixing celery (it used to seem so tedious) but I just whack off the bottom part, and throw into a LARGE bowl of ice water—-whack it thru the middle with a large, sharp knife, and let set until I can swoop it us later and into a Large, self -sealing bag, usually put a paper towel in the bottom to absorb extra water, or wrap in FOIL, it stays fresh much longer! Just think of CHOMPING on your veggies instead of callers' necks!! How tasty! haha—Hugs, Pat R

AddassaMari 2010-01-30 15:41:59 -0600 Report

Love celery, hate the strings. Thanks for the tip about the paper towel. Could eat carrots and cukes all day. Try fresh young zucchini, and sprouts-alfalfa, bean, broco-sprouts w/ S&P and a dash of oil and vinegar on a bed of salad greens and toss some pecan, walnuts or slivered almonds in for crunch while you are at it toss in about an ounce of grilled or pan seared salmon, tuna or any other fish. Heck that sounds like lunch.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-30 17:12:50 -0600 Report

Oh, Yum!! See there a few easy salads, with CRUNCH too, one reason I like the celery, I also add onions, for a bit of kick—I have a piece of meat from yes in the fridge, cooked yesterday, that I nibble on when I get the urge to snack and it helps FILL IN, protein, I suppose! PR

imsuzie2 2010-01-30 20:45:51 -0600 Report

Gail, sounds good. Have some chicken in the fridge I need to cook, freeze by tomorrow. bought bean sprouts and sugar snap peas and mushrooms (for Mike, I don't like mushrooms) to try my hand at a stir fry. Have low salt soy, oil and even a Wok that has instructions! Maybe tonite before everything spoils! Will put your idea in my recipes…Hugs to you both…

imsuzie2 2010-01-31 03:28:50 -0600 Report

OK, Gail…you inspired me. Took out my new WOK. Read instructions, and even tho I didn't have everything I needed, I improvised. Lots of veggies (bean spouts, snow peas, celery, carrots, mushrooms for Mike) and chicken breasts cut in pieces, and I stir fried for the very first time. I used low salt soy sauce (about 3 TBL) a little garlic powder, splash of low sodium salt and pepper, 1 1/2 tsp of oil, and a big 1/2c chicken broth. Couldn't get the stuff to stay up the side of the wok, so put the cooked items in a bowl as I cooked (instructions was to cook each item separately, then combined together at the end. Mike liked it, and it was fun to do (the cooking part, not cleaning and cutting chicken and veggies). I think it needed more spice, maybe the hoisin sauce would have made the difference.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-31 11:01:50 -0600 Report

What is hoisin sauce? You guys are almost to get me to want to cook again. Miracles never cease! hahPR

Deb-G 2010-02-01 10:31:44 -0600 Report

I wanna say Hoisin sause is a dipping sauce…Chinese I think?…made from sweet potato, vinegar, red chili peppers and sum other stuff lol…Unless i'm thinkin of something else!

btw…wrappin your lettuce in paper towel before putting it in a baggie and in the fridge makes it last twice as long without browning!…its a handy trick :)

I actually got a ton of fresh veggies to chomp this week shopping…but I was lazy and got the pre-sliced ones…I just wash and go LOL…I hate to say it but if i have to peel and slice it wont get there lol…

Although my new med's for my blood are making me a bit nauseous…I'm suppose to adjust (eyeroll) lol..we'll see! lol

Thats my piss/moan for today! :)

Hope you are all having a wonderful day!

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-01 15:41:11 -0600 Report

So far, so good, as my husband just went snorting out the back door—something about "Put that folding table away, don't let it just set there!" Well, I was BUSY (on here) gave an eye roll too—-folded it and set it beside me! Poor man!! mumle, mumble—-PAT R

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2010-02-01 15:52:38 -0600 Report

Pat, you are a hoot! I have a lot I would like to piss n moan about today, but I would probably get kicked off the site if I did! lol. Better if I keep my mouth shut, until I get my BS under control, and my BP too…LOL

AddassaMari 2010-02-02 08:46:16 -0600 Report

Hoisin sauce is soy-based and regularly used in Chinese dishes, as well as stir-fry recipes. The ingredients in a typical bottle of hoisin sauce are soybean paste, garlic, vinegar, and various spices such as chili peppers. The flavor this mixture yields is described as sweet, salty, and spicy.

Plum sauce is a nice change from the usual condiments, it goes well in vegetable wraps for a different flavor. Use won ton skins to make spring rolls with strips of fresh vegetables or take a Boston or butter lettuce leaf smear on plum sauce and line up julienne of vegetables, roll like an egg roll. Makes a great snack. Make sure you blanch or steam the veggies for a minute or so. It a modified version of food in the raw.

To those spring rolls, add a small amount of cooked lean meat, chicken, fish, shrimp, or lean pork. You can use lean ground meat also, Just add about 1 tablespoon to each roll. Have 4 rolls, viola! lunch or a light dinner with room for dessert.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-02 10:59:07 -0600 Report

hey, THANKS for the food input and explanation of Hoisin—probably something I can tolerate—looks like spices and such are going to be the way to go for diabetics or anyone, to avoid boredom with our type of diet—fish/chicken etc—- Had trouble with my BS yesterday, ate cornbread, from scratch—was 1/2 cornmeal—not a good thing— I am wondering?? PR

AddassaMari 2010-02-02 11:17:05 -0600 Report

Cornmeal is a carbohydrate and I don't think there is any such thing as low-carb cornmeal. But you know Pat, while refined sugars and processed, including canned foods should be off our list, everything depends on what it does to the individuals blood sugar. I find different things in the oriental food stores. Lots of condiments to jazz up that piece of chicken, I just watch the salt.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-02 22:31:44 -0600 Report

I checked out the Hoisin sauce today, but it said it contained 17mg of sugar/carbs so didn't buy any. I did get a Raspberry lite salad dsg, just used a tad on some lettuce, didn't have to take any Glipizide today, checked more closely this eve as that seems to be when it rises—didn't eat anymore cornbread—hard to NOT do—I was STARVED today—ate a fried pork chop, was filling, need to check again—right after I ate it was 109, so am hoping—
I made it to the Wellness center today too, but have gained—-big time—-another 4 #, I ran out of Lisinopril, but THINK that when that happens, I do gain water weight! I have been eating a lot of salt, nuts, mostly—trying to find an easy protein—I had tried to talk to my Dr a few weeks ago about the Glipizide, think he thot I was nuts when I told him it dropped me so far, so fast—down to 42, and I DID double check, had me get my A!c and smuggly told me that "Now we will see what you really have been doing!" I go back Fri for the results—I so hope it reads good!!! But I WILL NOT CRAWL, if it isn't!!! Pat R

Elrond 2010-02-02 23:05:00 -0600 Report

**GROAN** Cornbread ranks right behind chocolate in my list of weaknesses. But my preferences call for soaking very warm cornbread with tons of butter and slurping it up with tons of beans. I suppose if my endo doc was present with an insulin IV, I might get away with it…

imsuzie2 2010-02-03 03:42:30 -0600 Report

So we can P&M!!

DEB…START a new thread, please!!!!!!!

Gail, you come up with the best ideas!!! Thanks from all of us. Hoisin and plumb sauce are going on my shopping list with Won Ton kins…if they are in the Asian section of our grocery stores!!

Pat, like Tammy, you can't run out of meds! Bad girl. And, next time bat your eyes at Jack and ask "the big strong man" if he can't help you with that big old nasty table. You should not (there is that word again) be lifting something so heavy! Hugs all

mamaoak 2010-01-24 19:36:18 -0600 Report

i find if my sugars go down i get impatient if i am trying to get a meal and people are in my kitchen.

mammaG 2010-01-23 21:47:08 -0600 Report

I have found that I'm not always consistant with the doctors versons of what is suposed to be. recently the best way I've found to figure out me is to make my own medical chart that includes how I feel- time of day - bloodsugar levels- and what i've eaten.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-23 22:35:29 -0600 Report

Me too, that prevents so much anger being directed towards my Dr., he is so busy, and I am now accepting the responsibility of my own illnesses, for a time I wanted to be "stroked", I guess, but no one has the time and now I am in charge, I don't need it—I just curl up with a soft blanky instead and concentrate on other things. Hugs, Pat R

MAYS 2010-01-27 12:36:34 -0600 Report

Thank You very much !
This is by far the most honest post that I have come across on this site to date, You had the human need to be pampered and felt anger towards your doctor but you realised that what you wanted and what you needed to do were two different things.
You owned up to (your) Diabetes and took control, you accepted and took the first step, getting control of through self acceptance, eliminating the pity stage.
Your comment should be on the first page of this site.
(Pampering and pity feel good, taking control feels better)

Libra1969 2010-01-19 12:23:29 -0600 Report

Wow yes the mood swings and irratability are outrageous!! I feel alot of the time that I am on somekind of emotional rollercoaster!! If my bs is high, I am grumpy if it is too low, again grumpy. My son somedays thinks that he needs to call a shrink because of my mood swings. Lol…
I guess that is just another one of those wonderful things that we have to live with. On a positive note however, for me at least it is a pretty good indication besides using my monitor that my bs is high.
You are not alone, hang in there

dietcherry 2010-01-19 14:19:56 -0600 Report

LOL Hey Libra! It is hilarious how moody we can get when BS is high! It can work for us if we use those times to do something unpleasant, like talking to a bill collector LOL! Just kidding! It is just one more incentive for us to keep those blood sugars in a good range! Lots of Love, Renee :)

Deb-G 2010-01-19 17:02:36 -0600 Report

Just dont go over to that other thread in the forums where some cant understand anything but positive happy thoughts…I am going to resist mentioning where! BUT..frankly I like to bitch about it occasionally…i'm 28 years in to this thing…i have bitching rights! :::laughin::::

In all seriousness though…mood swings are unfortunately a very big factor for some :( Hopefully we all have people around us that can deal with it lol

dietcherry 2010-01-19 20:10:28 -0600 Report

I am serious, Deb! I think you should start it just so we all have somewhere to go and let off steam-a virtual temper tantrum of sorts! Come on now, do it!

Blue Angel
Blue Angel 2010-01-16 18:10:16 -0600 Report

I had that happen to me when I first found out I was diabetic. First my sugar went doww to 20, then I went to sleep. I didn't know too much about it. My doctor's office help me. Then I went to the store walking with my daughter, my sugar went down so I ate some sugarfree frozen yogurt and no sugar high so I had to eat something else. Then my sugar went sky high. But the doctor said that its better to be high than low because you can work it off. But low can send you into a diabetic coma. I was luck I woke up.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-16 19:51:18 -0600 Report

Blue Angel, frankly that has been my own personal thought, better too high than too low—-but glad to hear a Dr thinks so too. One reason I am so CAREFUL about taking any Glipizide as even 1/4 of one, drops me like a rock—150 points in 40 min, so if it isn't high enough I feel horrible, and has been down to 40—-to me that is scarier than the highs. Pat R

greeneyedghost 2010-01-16 20:03:11 -0600 Report

I so agree with you Pat. The lows send me into another world. I don't know anything and sweat and shake like crazy. I have heard the same thing about being high is better than very low from a doc too. Nicki

Elrond 2010-01-16 20:32:39 -0600 Report

Right, when I get much below 50, I can't function. There have been times I couldn't even remember how to operate my meter. Before I started anti-seizure meds, I was subject to seizures any time I got below 70. Any time I suspect my sugar is off and I can't test, I'll 'boost' it and test as soon as possible. A high sugar isn't good but it's not immediately dangerous.

jayabee52 2010-01-16 21:23:32 -0600 Report

That's been my thought that its better to be a little high than low and my M.O. for the years since my DX. Good to know what my thought is what some Drs think about the issue also.

I know that you CAN go into diabetic coma if BG is too high, but it has to be OBSENELY high to do that. .

Deb-G 2010-01-16 22:16:58 -0600 Report

Too High Blood Sugar can lead to Coma, & death

Too Low can lead to passing out & Seizure, and death

So the best option is to avoid both :)

greeneyedghost 2010-01-17 02:20:02 -0600 Report

I agree with you that avoiding highs and lows are the key, but if you have an illness and it makes u extremely sick, sometimes u can't help if it jumps too high or too low. I know when I took meds for the cancer and I got sick… really sick.. then mine would jump either way and if it was too low, Id find myself crawling to get something to bring it up so that I could function and then check it to see that it was not too low or too high… but the key with that is being responsible with what you use to make it go up again… not getting out of control with a lot of sweets or things, just a quick little shot of sunny d or orange juice and it would bring it up to a good enough number. In those situations you just can't help or control if it jumps one way or the other. Anyhow, that's my issue with too low or too high.. just when my illness bothers me or the meds get to me that much is when it's wacko for me. Other wise, when its too high, I walk it off ;) GN ALL. Nicki

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-17 20:06:53 -0600 Report

Hi, Nikki!! OF course with such intense health problems, keeping an even keel on your BS is NOT a walk in the park!! No one is faulting you or anyone else!

Frankly, I haven't checked mine today, not sure why, but it just SEEMS that the world is CRACKED and I don't care—is tha, "t Jimmy cracked corn, and I don't care??"

Frankly, I THINK I have had too many downers today, insults to my sagging ego, got a bit perturbed this afternoon, shouldn't have, I guess, but I have a long, negative history with this one person of our church—-so IT GOT TO ME!! I played the piano at church, went OK, so the preacher asked me to come in town (we already live here—-) to play for his 2 services for the Rest Homes. I agreed, got there (I was SO SLeppy—wanted to NAP!!) then this other woman, a much better player than I—-came in, and I asked her if she wanted to play for me.

Well, little did I know that this other teacher had already asked her to come in and play and she doesn't even go to our church——after I caught on, I WAS SO EMBARRASSED I could have cried!! She is so MUCH better than I, I just sulked down into my chair, then left quickly afterwards! No more words for that incident—just wanted to escape!! The teacher said, "I didn't make you mad, did I, or hurt you—-! I denied that she had but the longer I sat there and THOUGHT, the more upset I got as this wasn't the FIRST time she has pulled something like that on me—-I usually can wade thru it, but tonight, I thanked the one for playing, told her it was beautiful, so much better than I, and the other woman keeps preaching being humble, so I am, I NEVER want to play again, such an embarrassment—-at least NOT for the Rest Homes, they are used to her now—she had played there before for others, but not I—-

So call me a SNIT, I am, and it probably has NOTHING to do with my BS! Should I check? haha—Afraid to!! Will go read a book instead! nighty night!! PR

greeneyedghost 2010-01-17 23:46:35 -0600 Report

Sorry you've had such a bad day. Just take it so that God means for u to bless others some where else.. ;). Hope tom. is much better for you. If you are off from work .. take a special time for yourself to make you feel more at ease… sometimes when my daughters go to their dad's house for the wkd… I blast the music loud and do what I wanna or light candles and watch tv a little or soak in some bubble bath.. hehe.. not something I ever get to do hardly.. always busy with kids, school work for them, raising them .. lol, working, and just living… but manage to find a time for me. Sounds like what the doc has ordered for u. Good Luck and have a great day tom. NICKI

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-18 09:35:15 -0600 Report

I agree, Nikki! Find some time for yourself, it can be done, even if it is TINY—don't worry about the work, it will keep! ha—At least I can usually go back to it and it goes much faster than if I am just dragging around!! Pat

greeneyedghost 2010-01-19 00:52:49 -0600 Report

Oh i learned yrs ago after almost losing this life, that work can wait, i take my time with my girls always first.. just talking about the work work that makes a living.. lol. cant always put it on a backburner. Tc and hagn all. Nicki

jayabee52 2010-01-17 07:43:50 -0600 Report

yes Deb, I agree w you, It is best to avoid BOTH extremes. However I feel one can get in big trouble quicker by going too low.

Deb-G 2010-01-17 20:27:22 -0600 Report

Awe this is so the wrong way to look at it…There is a reason we take Insulin (or medications) to keep our blood sugar down…While you may more immediately feel the "symptoms" of the lows…the damage highs do to your body far outweigh wanting to not worry about them…Those that die from Diabetes die from the long term consequences of BS being too high…its damaging your body…Diabetes is indeed a silent killer until its too late…Its important to feel the highs are as important as the lows…A little low, or a little high isn't what I mean…the extremes…just want you all to stay healthy :)

greeneyedghost 2010-01-17 23:48:24 -0600 Report

I agree and understand the damage highs can do to you and that yes they far outlast the low problems, because of caring for my older sister who has Type 1 and 2 diabetes and Ive seen what they have done to her. My thing I guess was just that if I go really low… my higher number i get it too is never "high", just higher than the low. Good luck with that everyone. Nicki

jayabee52 2010-01-18 01:22:53 -0600 Report

Well, Deb, I was NOT advocating NOT CONTROLLING one’s BGs at all. I try to keep rather tight control, EXCEPT when driving or operating other dangerous equipment (don’t do that much anymore). Then I like to keep the BG just a LITTLE BIT high. I do tend to test more frequently when driving since if I go low and get confused, have a seizure (hasn’t happened yet, thank God) or go into coma (hasn’t happened yet¸ thank God) behind the wheel, I could affect not just me, but whoever is in my car and those in the other cars around me.

And furthermore NOT EVERYONE who dies from complications of diabetes dies from the LONG TERM consequences of our “challenge”. There are people who go low, have a seizure and hit their head, or swallow their tongue, choke, and die, or slip into a coma and just don’t wake up, ever. And then there are those who go low, and for whatever reason (confusion, seizure, coma) have an auto accident and are killed and maybe are the cause of others’ deaths too. There may be other scenarios, but none come to mind immediately.

Yes, perhaps the MAJORITY of us die from complications from the high readings, but one can get in life-and-limb threatening trouble QUICKER from the lows than the highs.

For these reasons I believe that it is better to run just A LITLE high than too low, especially when operating dangerous equipment. Please note I wrote A LITTLE high, and I went back and edited my entry which started this bit of this discussion thread to clarify that point.

I understand your desire for us all to stay as healthy as possible for as long as possible. Thank you Deb. Ultimately that is my goal also.

All the best to you ~James~

Deb-G 2010-01-18 11:31:31 -0600 Report


I get you and I understand you were not advocating it..I just didn't want anyone perhaps newly dealing with things to think its not devastatingly as important…

Your talking to someone that indeed has a seizure issue from low's…and low's often enough to pass out as well…Infact I leave for Mayo this week to try and overcome this seizure issue relating to it…So while I agree with you that low's are an immediate scare…its important for everyone to realize that the high's are doing the same thing on the inside…

Slight fluctuation is not an issue…I think we all have that :) but significant highs do as much damage on your insides…

I am hoping Mayo will find the answers I seek to control my severe low's (which for me are directly related to significant highs)…what goes up, sometimes comes down HARD :(

Anyway…stability is key :)

Deb-G 2010-01-18 11:32:30 -0600 Report

PS…I hate typing this out…its hard to communicate my feelings and indicate that I am saying things out of love and not meaning anything in a bad way…

Please know this…


jayabee52 2010-01-18 12:29:18 -0600 Report

Dear Deb
Sometimes that’s the difficulty of trying to communicate in a manner such as this, rather than face to face. Without the clues provided in tone of voice, and the facial expressions & body language sometimes our communication can be misunderstood or distorted. I did get from you, your concern that others not think it not important to control their highs. I took nothing in a bad way. I pray I didn’t give the impression otherwise.

I don’t remember if I’ve seen you on “Good Morning, Afternoon or Evening #22”, It’s a good bunch of people there. You might want to let us know about your Mayo trip there, before you go and when you get back let us know what they find for you.

I pray the best for you and yours in your trip to Mayo. I pray they find what’s causing those seizures

May God’s richest blessings be yours in your Mayo trip and always.


Deb-G 2010-01-18 12:33:25 -0600 Report

Thank you James!!

Mayo is my last ray of hope and I have been paired up with a GREAT Endo doc there…

I anxiously await my flight :)

Thank you for your note xox

dietcherry 2010-01-18 12:39:19 -0600 Report

Deb and James, you both do a great job of getting your message across! I almost responded before Deb did because it sounded like high BS was being dismissed as no big deal and that lows were what should be avoided; if anyone new here is unclear about this, let us know, please! But I know how hard it is to make our meaning clear when typing out thoughts because I'm the worst for leaving stuff out and getting "corrected"! LOL Lots of Love to all my friends here! Renee :)

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-18 13:53:22 -0600 Report

Oh, there was a misunderstanding? I could see both sides of what was being said, so didn't see a problem—-sometimes I am glad that I am thick headed, I get into enough trouble, HAHA_—-love you ALL! Pat Roth

Deb-G 2010-01-18 19:35:12 -0600 Report

Actually Pat I think I was just trying to make sure there wasn't hard feelings…It may not have been a missunderstanding at all…I just wanted to be sure because typed words are sometimes the pits! lol

Renee…I'm sure thats exactly what made me a little forum shy! hahaha!

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-01-18 22:53:36 -0600 Report

Oh, I understand, believe me! I worked thru my own set of misunderstandings about my being asked by the minister to play the piano, then another woman , who loves to run the church, had asked her friend to play. She really does play better than I< I sorted thru my feeling, then talked to both of them today, and all is OK< I was honest and said that it mostly just pointed out to ME how poorly I played compared to the other woman. I told them I would never go thru that again—the other lady is so good, she can just have it—I did admit that I was a bit hurt, but have worked thru it, so it is best to question an uncertain situation, than to let it fester—-Hugs TO ALL—-It was not even any of my business, I just butted in—-I need to watch that—haha—HUgs, Pat R

MAYS 2010-01-27 12:59:28 -0600 Report

A fine article and many responses that are helpful but I would like to add this point, during a seizure it is impossible for a human to swallow their tongue :

One of the most common myths involves the idea that a person can swallow his/her tongue. Most often this myth is associated with the dying or with seizures and epilepsy.

Either situation can be frightening and cause people to panic. One of the problems is that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

A person who is actively dying and lying on his/her back may open the mouth to gasp for air or appear to yawn and then relax and in the process the tongue may roll backwards in the mouth. It will return to its normal place behind the lower teeth momentarily, but this can be disconcerting to see.

Good Samaritans who are uninformed and witness a seizure often try to keep the person from swallowing the tongue by shoving all sorts of things into the mouth such as a wallet, metal utensils such as spoons or even a dirty stick or object they find laying on the street next to the person seizing.

The truth is that the person will not swallow his tongue. He could clench his teeth down and bite it, but because it naturally rolls back slightly, this doesn’t often happen. There is a small piece of tissue behind the teeth and under the tongue called the frenulum linguae which keeps the tongue in place and prevents swallowing.

Read more at Suite101: It's Not Possible to Swallow Your Tongue: Medical Myths and Seizure Precautions

MAYS 2010-01-27 12:43:19 -0600 Report

A very " Educated " statement.
People need to know that by the time you have been diagnosed with diabetes, damage has been done to your internal organs and that damage CANNOT be repaired !
You can only take preventive measures from that point on to prevent any furthure damage, it sounds harsh but the effects of the complications of diabetes is even harsher !

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