oxidative stress and diabetic complications

By Latest Reply 2009-12-20 09:04:34 -0600
Started 2009-12-19 13:16:45 -0600

my post of last evening on how I got rid of my complications seemed to have generated some bad feelings among those who thought it was purely a monetary move. sorry to have offended you. here is a link to an American Diabetes Association page that posts a scientific paper on oxidative stress and its relation to diabetic complications. Is a little heavy reading but is worth the effort
if you google (diabetic complications and oxidative stress) you will find ample information that you probably have never seen before.
OS has been linked with just about every illness studied as a cause and a cause of symptoms.
OS is the damage caused to the body by free radicals. A free radical is an unbalanced molecule looking for a hydrogen molecule to balance it out and will steal a hydrogen molecule from the nearest source wherever that may be, if it is the mytochondria of the cell (the power center) chronic fatigue is the manifestation of this.if it continues.What determines where this theft takes place would be a ground breaking study but I have not found out yet. if you stop the OS then you stop the complications and Immunocal worked for me and many others.

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Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-20 00:46:44 -0600 Report

Oh, my, fellers, loosen up a bit! I don't believe anything I read, frankly—-I am of the old school that raising pure, wholesome food in your own back yard garden is the way to go, to eat healthy, well balanced meals. Any product that brags of ANYTHING is phony to ME!!

Have you ever read the side effects of the drugs we are given by well-meaning Drs—-and don't you know of some folks who thought that they were doing the right thing for their bodies, only to discover, maybe 10 years later, that it caused cancer, or something else dreaded——!

I have tried some of these miracle juices, saw no difference, so am saving my money as those things are terribly expensive, and as for the brags about it giving you a better quality and longer life span——who wants to live forever anyway??!! Frankly, I have seen enough, but will continue as I have been and the only reason I drink the diet cherry 7-UP is that I like it, I like the buzzy fizz once in awhile, but I sure do NOT expect it to do ANYTHING for me, bad or good! What will be, will be, and when I was younger I never could afford fun foods, so now I do enjoy some of the things that were unatainable in my youth! No offense to anyone, but just follow the food pyramid, exercise reasonably, as much as you are able, try to get your 8 hours of sleep, then laugh and ENJOY LIFE!! Quit worrying about the little whippity -poos that MIGHT enter your body—-oxidents and all of that stuff, my family are long livers, and we were raised on our soil! So, nighty night Guys!!! I will dream of what I plan on planting next year in my garden! Sweet Dreams!! Pat R

Harlen 2009-12-19 18:37:16 -0600 Report

Well this is something
The thing is take what you can use and what you cant leave it
Getting mad, upset just isnt going to help
When you own something DONT pomote it here
with out paying the fee to do so ,Its just not good and no one here will buy it.And thats a fact!!!!
I wish you all well and have fun tis the time of year to love NOT war

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-19 18:19:05 -0600 Report

I am not getting into this one—-as I don't have a clue what you are talking about! but I am drinking some diet, cherry 7-UP that stresses it is an antioxident, but dont really know what that is—-I just like the taste and zip! Thanks, take care, boys!! your Mom, Pat R

2009-12-19 18:22:58 -0600 Report

thats a new one to me. I cant believe a soda is saying it is an anti-oxidant drink. Thats like the Rice Krispies boxes with the word IMMUNITY plastered all over the front
too funny…but i bet it tastes good :)

Deb-G 2009-12-19 18:41:20 -0600 Report

They claim that because they contain Vitamin E…see how much BS can be in print lol…

I think we all just want to see that ADA and our professional organizations approve your product and account for what it does…

References to OS without direct connection to your product doesn't prove anything…just connects the claim…

I'm in the Dental field and Crest Pro-Health CLAIMS the same things Listerine claims…yet…they dont contain the American Dental Assoc seal of approval…which to me means they haven't proven their product…

Sooooo thats what we are looking for…a direct reference to its success and acceptance by our professional organization :)

Have a good weekend everyone :)

2009-12-19 18:53:03 -0600 Report

yeah i figured it was because they added some antioxidants, its just funny (not) that now its somehow good for you. Connecting os to immunocal is easy, do your research on glutathione then research Immunocal and the connection becomes quite apparent. Here is a link i posted in a new discussion from the fda.gov site. Look at the whole slide presentation its about 30 slides


2009-12-19 15:58:25 -0600 Report

I want to hear from anyone who has looked into the oxidative stress connection and wants to discuss it, especially in connection with glutathione. love to hear from you

Deb-G 2009-12-19 15:16:27 -0600 Report

Ruffled some feathers did ya Dan? lol

Just messin with ya…I suppose anything is worth a read…but i'll warn you…

I'm a Pessimist :oP


2009-12-19 15:21:45 -0600 Report

yes and I profusely apologized and hope not to offend anyone else :)

2009-12-19 15:27:57 -0600 Report

i understand the pessimism because that was me. I am or was willing to try anything anyone ever suggested that would help my diabetes (within reason) and nothing ever did and it gets discouraging after years. when my friend told me about the Immunocal I listened because he never steered me wrong before and did not say it would do anything about the diabetes but only that it would optimize my immune system (because i was always sick) the rest was a bonus

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