We Are All In The Same Boat

June Tademy
By June Tademy Latest Reply 2009-12-31 20:32:19 -0600
Started 2009-12-17 22:47:56 -0600

I was a little disturbed by kd and Sue T., we are all here to learn and not to fight with each other. I come to this site for information. Everyone should just calm down and take the information for just what it is. If you do not agree, consult your doctor. All of us are in the same boat and all Doctors do not think the same on the disease.Let us just help each other and do not get so upset
when someone says something- disagree politely - we all came to this site for information and not for stress, for friendship and not to debate each other. I am very sad, please let us not have this arguing and upsetting one another , in fact upsetting the entire site, again.

37 replies

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-20 00:54:19 -0600 Report

From the sounds of some of these later posts, I would say that folks' BS must be tipping the scales in the sensitivity department. It is cChristmas season, and frankly, that time of year can bring out the worst of all of us, diabetics or not—-the stress, lack of sleep, suicide rate goes up—-worrying about gifts in this economy etc, let us give each other the gift of love, respect and understanding! That will make you richer than lots of money and power! Hugs to ALL! Pat Roth

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2009-12-18 16:16:09 -0600 Report

June, I am sorry that you are disturbed, and,I agree, we are all here for the same reasons, to learn, encourage, and support each other. We are not here to be corrected or attacked for every little thing that someone may or may not agree with. If I can help someone with what I have to share or offer, that is wonderful, and that makes me feel good. I am not here to hurt or affend anyone. Like I have said before, I don't think anyone on here has a medical doctorate. The best person to discuss your medical concerns with is your physician. We are here to support each other.

Sirish 2009-12-19 03:48:08 -0600 Report

Exactly we are here to cooperate each other and to share our experiences

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-19 10:07:47 -0600 Report

Amen! Go in Peace! Love, Pat Roth

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2009-12-19 10:58:50 -0600 Report

I am Seriously thinking about leaving the site. I have made so many wonderful friends, and met so many wonderful, and interesting people, that it breaks my heart to think about it. But, the attacks and arguments have added so much stress that is has made me physically ill, and has not helped my emotional status either. I am struggling with this decision this morning. Maybe I will feel differently when I am feeling better.
Love, and hugs to you all. Sue T.

Antique-Dave 2009-12-19 13:27:46 -0600 Report

I might have seen 2 threads in the past 9 months that flamed, all things considered I see that as a pretty good average, some sites are in flames everyday.

Conflict is a constant any time you have more then one person involved its going to happen at some point.

How you choose to deal with it says everything. KD is not a demon laying in wait to destroy someones self esteem, I've learned a lot from him. all parties in that exchange made some mistakes IMHO.

If you have a continuing issue with this maybe John can facilitate a discussion between the main parties involved and try to resolve it.

What is going on now is self destructive and destructive to the forum.

Deb-G 2009-12-19 14:29:54 -0600 Report

Dont go anywhere Susie Q…

Many personalities come together here and most of what happens is good…

I've come to know you and your a wonderful spirit and a sweet friend…

You'll always find some of all types on every forum…dont let it take away the good you can find here…

Is there an ignore button? lol

Seriously…without being silly…stick around a while! :)



Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-19 17:33:46 -0600 Report

Oh, Sue!! I have come to depend on your input! You are one of the few that I think I have something in common with—don't go—-I felt like that 2 different times, but hung in there, and the situations resolved themselves—-both quit, or are lying low—suppose I am the one THEY are referring to the 2 times in the last 9 mos. who got caught up in drama——It passed and I am still here and love everyone on this site, even the blunt ones, at least they feel strongly about the subject for their own personal reasons. "This too shall pass~" Love you and ALL!! Pat R

Deb-G 2009-12-19 18:30:03 -0600 Report

There's Drama everywhere…thats what happens when there's free will and free speech…

honestly anyone can hit the X button next to any thread to no longer follow it when things get ugly…LOL

We will all have good days and bad…

and thats ok :)

daniel velazco
daniel velazco 2009-12-19 20:12:07 -0600 Report

Hi Sue,
I consider you a good friend and don't want to see you leave this site. I enjoy reading what you post and would hate it if you left. Hang in there. Dan

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2009-12-20 13:13:39 -0600 Report

Will do Dan! I consider you a very good friend as well. And, I don't want to leave all my wonderful friends… I think that we all have a great deal to offer each other.

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2009-12-20 13:03:14 -0600 Report

Oh, Pat, you are so precious to me, as are all of the wonderful, loving, and careing people that I have come to know and make friends with on this site. I love you all. Emotions tend to run high this time of year. And, we all have our own personal situations to deal with. Like, for instance, right now, I am feeling very sensitive because my two daughters are giving me a hard time because they blame me for the breakup of our family. I guess they have to blame someone, and that someone just happens to be me. I am having a hard time dealing with it, with all the holiday get togethers with family. That was a big part of my life for 40 years, and it is breaking my heart the way these girls are acting right now. But, that is my problem, and I have just got to deal with it. I'm trying to stay as stress free as possible…which is not easy right now. I can hardly hold back the tears for thinking about it. But, like you said, this too shall pass. This may not be the proper place to have this discussion, but you guys are so dear to me; I feel if I can't share these things with you, who can I? I thank each and everyone of you for your love, support and encouragement. Hugs to you Pat. You can always make me laugh…LOL

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-20 13:40:03 -0600 Report

Hey, Sue!! If you could go back and read some of my own posts, you would think that you are looking into my mirror—-mine was emotional illness that set me apart for over 40 years—-read my writings under How did you do at Thanksgiving, tells of my issues that have about gotten the best of me for all of these years. ONly dif was I threatened divorce many times, it was the PAIN I could NOT stand and anything that helped to cause that pain——I slowly began to feel that way about EVERYONE, so knew that I HAD TO become aware, let the kids' chips fall where they may—IF they had only known what went on behind closed doors, maybe they would have supported me a bit—-

Emotions can weave in and out of our souls until we don't recognize ourselves, nor want to——

Thus, it is not surprising that emotions can affect our bodies in many ways, one being, diabetis, so in my eyes, emotional dilemnas are always a welcome thing to vent about—-on this site too——it can relieve some of the stress, maybe help you to find a different way of looking at things, to accept the situation for what it is—of course, the kids seem to stick to their dads, no matter what, they are angry too—confused—-give them space and they will have to work thru it—-just be there, supportive but respectful of their dad, and yourself—-It is so HARD, but not impossible! And this time of year when you are SUPPOSED to be happy and light=hearted—to pretend seems fake—-but it isn't, as you know what REALLY lies in your own heart, but frankly, the kids don't care, they are also hurting and haven't reached enough maturity to understand mom too—-they may never=—but if you know that is the only way to have handled the situation, be at PEACE, the rest will follow in due time!!

In the meantime, see your therapist or whatever, take their prescribed meds to help, talk alone doesn't cut it—-and hang in there—YOU ARE NOT ALONE!! But I KNOW that it sure seems like it!! May the guardian angels of love and peace, surround and protect you in your time of grief!! Warm hugs, Pat R

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2009-12-20 14:47:04 -0600 Report

Thanks again, Pat: You hit the nail right on the head with everything. I want to go into this further. Right now my husband is cooking a Turkey feast. It's like Thanksgiving all over again. Not a whole lot that I can eat. But, I just said, have at it. I will maybe eat some turkey and steamed vegetables later. My computer is on the kitchen table, so I will have to move for a while. But I do want to get back to this. Warm hugs back to you! Sue :0)

June Tademy
June Tademy 2009-12-31 20:32:19 -0600 Report

Thank you Sue, I only Want all of us to listen and continue to help each other. I do love this site and I will continue to come to the site for information because each time I do I seem to find a solution to my BS problem. Happy New Year to everyone and may we all continue to be blessed.

rankearl 2009-12-18 14:15:28 -0600 Report

hi all happpy hoildays get in a corner grab your santa and swing well now that i have your attention lets play fare i love you all and arreciate you all we all our humans with opions and thoughts for me just being able to say somehting that helped me and think it might help someone else makes me feel wonderful it makes feel better im not prefect far from it that is why im here again i love you all lets hug and make up julie

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-18 14:01:17 -0600 Report

Oh, my, did I miss something? Sigh—-I love Peace and respect too, and if I have ever said anything hateful I FULLY aplogize, sometimes one has so much passion on a subject that it might come across a bit personal——As for me, I just try to roll with the words———we are all unique and special, the sweetest among the sweet!!

On some days I am a bit more sensitive than others, mistakeningly get hurt by something, then again, someone has to hit me in the head with a hammer to get a personal nail into my heart——am trying to learn to just "let it go" maybe someone else will benefit from it, if not I—but then it depends on moods—-I think——-Love and sweet kisses to ALL!! PR

Deb-G 2009-12-18 15:18:01 -0600 Report

Pat…you keep making me laugh cause you hit on things that are so true…I got to thinkin about how sugar swings effect out moods and such…how you are right…one day or another all of us will have a sensitive one, or a moody one…

Then I got wondering …wonder what the "Bi-Polar" disorder boards are like? lol

(pls nobody take offense to that…we can be as moody!) lol

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-18 15:26:47 -0600 Report

Well, one Dr asked me one time if I was Bi-Polar, made me MAD!! Do you really want to see how MAD? " JUst keep making comments like that", I snapped, and changed Drs, one that liked and believed in the REAL ME! It was so much easier to be nice to those who were nice too! The cranky ones only bring out the negative in each of us—-expect the best and you will usually get it, sooner or later! I think Bi-Polars get a bad rap—-we all are pretty much in the same boat there, too—only maybe it is bottled up to where it has fermented more——

As far as me, I was just DEPRESSED and WANTED LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE!! True of us all, so we can go along our way, laughing and keep people GUESSING! haha—Is she or isn't she?! I bet we have more fun than the same-oh, boring folks! ha—PR

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-18 15:26:56 -0600 Report

Well, one Dr asked me one time if I was Bi-Polar, made me MAD!! Do you really want to see how MAD? " JUst keep making comments like that", I snapped, and changed Drs, one that liked and believed in the REAL ME! It was so much easier to be nice to those who were nice too! The cranky ones only bring out the negative in each of us—-expect the best and you will usually get it, sooner or later! I think Bi-Polars get a bad rap—-we all are pretty much in the same boat there, too—only maybe it is bottled up to where it has fermented more——

As far as me, I was just DEPRESSED and WANTED LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE!! True of us all, so we can go along our way, laughing and keep people GUESSING! haha—Is she or isn't she?! I bet we have more fun than the same-oh, boring folks! ha—PR

Deb-G 2009-12-18 15:30:05 -0600 Report

uh huh!…Bi-Polars do get a bad rap I agree…and like us i'm thinkin their boards follow those mood swings lol…

Its all good…it is def not boring! :)

Sue Turner
Sue Turner 2009-12-18 16:52:06 -0600 Report

Pat, you are precious, and so understanding. I can't see you saying anything hateful to anyone. So, don't think that you have anything to apologize for.
hugs, your friend, Sue

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-18 20:10:58 -0600 Report

Thanks, Sue! I will try to not say anything to ruin your belief in me as a person! But, it sure is comforting to know that if I do, most of you will forgive me—-that is all most of us can ask for—-

My mom used to say, "when child is the least loveable, is when they need the most loving!" But I was always afraid to test it—-enough said. love PR

Antique-Dave 2009-12-18 08:38:07 -0600 Report

Personally I like a little debate, but I do not like personal attacks. You can disagree without it.

BUT, If sitting around holding hands and singing cum ba ya becomes the mantra I'm outta here.

Yes we are here for support, to share our thoughts, feelings, frustrations and success. Many of us do not have another place we can do that as many of our significant others friends and families don't get it and don't want to hear about it.

I am also here to learn, I want to know what KD, Sarg, and others have to say. I also think its important to address fallacies and myths, and information that is simply wrong that is stated as fact.

I received a lot of help and support when I first came on in March, support that helped me get my D under control and drop from a 10.9 to a 5.7 A1C in 6 months. I hope that by participating I can repay that kindness.

As far as the Docs and endo and diabetes educators go, well, I'm sure there are some good ones out there somewhere. I really like my family Doc, he is also diabetic but I don't think he gets it.

I believe that this is a disease that places 99.9% of the responsibility for management directly on each of us. Its up to us to manage and adjust our methods of control daily if not more. Its up to us to seek out and learn all that we can so that we have multiple tools and choices in that management.

So bring on the debate, bring on the PASSION! but leave the personal attacks and sniping somewhere else cuz I really don't want to hear that.

Harlen 2009-12-18 10:03:34 -0600 Report

Your right on the ball there
I am so slow I didnt even know there was a conflict lol

I have had some disagements with others here but I would not put them down for that, heck they may be right lol
this is like an AA meeting take what you can use from here and use it and what you cant leave it I know this is simple but its how it needs to be
I have a lot of frends here and to make somone feel bad just would make me feel lower then a sails trail
Hugs and best wishes to you all

Susie624 2009-12-18 06:38:34 -0600 Report

June ,I agree with you we are here as friends , help mates, listeners. not educaters.That is what the doctor and dietians are for less all remember that.If you want to argue it take it to a private chat. don't upset the others with your battles,please.

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