My surgical knee

Turtle
By Turtle Latest Reply 2009-12-29 11:09:00 -0600
Started 2009-11-30 14:29:57 -0600

Hi everyone,
I am still having lots of pain with my surgical knee. It is very weak so I cannot have the other knee done yet. It has only been almost 5 months since surgery and I know it takes at least 1 yr to recover after surgery but this is lots of uncontrolled pain. I see my surgeon the 14th of Dec. That will be 5 mos from surgery. I have many questions for him. Perhaps I will have a different dr do my other knee when it is time…I do not know.

Turtle


22 replies

Turtle
Turtle 2009-12-29 11:05:50 -0600 Report

If a med or food makes your tongue or throat swell, you should not take it any more. That is a classic allergic reaction.

Turtle

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-29 11:09:00 -0600 Report

That is what I had always heard, so don't try it—-was ticked with Drs at the time, too bull-headed to go—-thot if I die, I die, serves THEM RIGHT!! Now isn't that mature thinking!!?? NOT!!! See, this site HAS helped my disposition! haha—PAt R

Turtle
Turtle 2009-12-26 21:41:54 -0600 Report

The left side of my knee and leg is still numb but feels like it is waking up some. It is proticall for the dr to numb the nerve in the leg. It is supposed to be temporary. I still take hydrocodene and extra strength tylenol for the pain. I have been on this narcotic at some dose or another since before surgery.

Pauline, what do you take for pain that is helping you? I would love some sleep. I am in so much pain at night that I barely sleep if at all.

Turtle

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-26 23:32:43 -0600 Report

I use Percogesic for pain, have been taking it the past few days as the acid in my right hand from those nettles, has flared up again and can't sleep, even when Iwrap a poultice around it, takes both—PR

Turtle
Turtle 2009-12-27 09:48:51 -0600 Report

is percogesic a narcotic? My doc is trying to get me off my med cuz mine is. I used to take percogesic and it helped a lot but if it is a narcotic there is probably little point in my asking her for it.

Pat R. - have you tried putting gentian violet on the hand that got into the nettles? It is good stuff but will stain you purple temp.

Turtle

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-27 16:16:15 -0600 Report

Percogesic is an over the counter med for pain. My Dr suggested it to me many years ago when I was also on Lodine, I think it was- for arthritis—-and it warned me to not take aspirin—-for my poor knees—HURT!! I was also trying to work at the hospital, cement floors, about killed me off, literally—-between that pain and the emotional stress——

I took a lot of it during those days, just occassionaly now, since both knees have been replaced, and Uncle Arthur is not such an issue, but have found that it still works good for headaches and my hands—- better than Aleve and Advair—my tongue swells when I take those, and feel like I am choking—-I have never noticed any bad effects with the Percogesic—-I have found that it isn't sold everywhere—-not as popular as the others, but it suits me better.

I might try the vention violet, I have used it when my inner mouth was ulcerated, also a bad burn on my hand 60 years ago,,,this stuff is acid, runny stuff, rather like the poison ivy thing—-but trying a dab wouldn't hurt—I know that SALT, EPSOM SALTS and SODA do NOT WORK!! Man alive, I felt like a turpentined cat! I quickly dipped them into Hot bath water, only to LEARN that was even worse, if that was possible!!!! Later I read on the internet where heat was the worst thing that one could soak stining nettles sites, into—- as it drove that acid deeper and when it gets into your bones——MAN!!!!!!!! Some times, at its worst, I would try and soak them outside, and the sun would just FRY THEM! So, no sun, no Heat!!

I have neveer heard of anyone else having them like this, went to six Drs and 3 Dermatologists, they didn't know, so I have written a big paper, on my computer, the things that I have tried and what helped and what did not, went thru 3 bottles of peroxide—-now you would think that would PAIN, also about 7 cans of Watkins' Salve, has an antisepetic etc—old fashioned but it helps some—-but it was one of the few things that seemed to help at the time—-NOT ALCOHOL!!!! wow!!

I have talked to a few who had brushed up against it, and that sent them itching and burning for one or two MONTHS< nothing helped them—-had to just wear it off, but I had to pull it, and carry a big bundle in my arms to the trash barrel— ,the acidic hairs on the stems do not flare up until the next day, I couldn't imagine what had happened!!!! HURT< ITCH< BURN——then it has been atrocious for 5 years—-gets somewhat better but the knuckels have been bad for over a year—-now some fresh acid ran down my hand 6 weeks ago, is open, acid stands up like gelatin—water will NOT wash it of—makes it burn more too—-Has to be the Domboro Soaks water!! ITCH——gradually the skin blisters up, after so many weeks, it starts getting dry enough, by soaking it almost constantly, and peels—-dead, calloused hide—-feels better with it all peeled off at that certain stage—-do not rush it before it is dry and ready!! , sometime during the soaking process—use Domeboro powder, they also use it for poison ivy and poison oak—the druggist suggested it for me—-it so helps to soak out that acid, but have to do it for hours at a time, and if it is active, after an hour or so, I have to start soaking again—-it rebuilds—-needless to say, I don't get much done—-so think that was part of my depression! Thanks for your suggestions! Pat R

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-28 14:42:42 -0600 Report

My recent switch of a profile pic was to show a small section of the stinging nettles, was all over my right arm —-finger tips to my elbow——PR

Pauline B
Pauline B 2009-12-28 11:53:46 -0600 Report

I still have percaset and oxycodone remaining from my knee suregery but they don't help with nerve pain (according to what my doc said and what I've read). My arthritis doc prescribed Gabapentin as a nerve pain reducer, and Methocarbamol as a relaxant. If you live near Canada you can get methacarbamol OTC along with the aspirin. It's also available with narcotics added but in the US a doc has to prescribe. In Canada (at least in BC and Northwest Territories) one can get it directly from the pharmacist. Customs/Immigration officials, when returning to US, often ask me if I bought any, especially when I've only been for 36 hours, but I haven't.

Vancouver and Victoria are just a hop away for us, and I went over to Victoria, via an Argosy tourist ship, for my flu shot the year the US didn't make enough.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-28 14:49:01 -0600 Report

I am enjoying your posts, Pauline! Sorry that you can no longer be as active, you have already done some of the neatest things!! WOW!!

We did communicate with a place in Canada for arthritis meds, can't recall the name. but was OUTLANDISHishly high here in the states. My husband still takes it but I no longer have to since both knees replaced and not working on cement floors anymore!

I seldom have heard of anyone using Percogesic, it doesn't have aspirin that would be too much of a blood thinner, when I took it with Lodine——-I think that Lodine was later taken off of the market because of repurcussions—-don't remember what—-but not good! Percogesic continues to help my type of pains, so I try to keep it on hand. Thanks for your input. PR

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-29 10:34:22 -0600 Report

Oh, by the way, it is percoGESIC, NOT PERCOCET—-percocet is a narcotic, percogesic is different—-let me look——-it is aspirin free, acetaminophen 325 mg and Phenyfltoloxamine Citrate 30 mg. ( I had to copy off of the label—-)I do not understand its make-up, but it seems to have more effect on my own make-up than Advil and Aleve! THose 2 make my tongue swell, thus scare me,. but the PercoGESIC seem to relieve most of my pains, still use Excedrin for one of THOSE headaches! hhaha——Good Luck, just trying to help—-PR

Pauline B
Pauline B 2009-12-26 17:25:29 -0600 Report

I had my knee replacement about a week before Turtle's, and I, too, have pain and numbness. I wasn't as careful following up with exercises after the rehab period was over, though the surgeon is pleased. Now I find that I have very serious degenerative disk disease, and between the nightly pain if my back and hips, as well as in the knee, I am not a happy camper. But I can walk and hike, and expect to be active when we take a cruise later in January through the Panama Canal. But I think horseback riding has been crossed off the list.

I was given a different kind of prescription to deal with the nerve pain as well as a relaxant tp take before I go to bed. That, combined with Tylenol (or it's generic equivalent) allow me to get relaxing sleep.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-26 20:10:07 -0600 Report

Interesting, Pauline! I took a cruise in 2005 with both BAD knees, got by—spent a lot of time setting and visiting with the Mexicans while the others rushed on——I thought that I came out of the experience, all the richer in spirit!! Made so many friends, NONE of those in our group who were so anxious to run ahead and do their own thing! My one regret was I was so short winded, and stumbliy—I could not take the number of pics I would have liked—-but then again, I was shy, felt like I was intruding on their life style—-they might be uncomfortable being LOOKED at—-But I carry many scenes in my head—-and I am fortunate to still be able to remember those!! PR

Pauline B
Pauline B 2009-12-28 11:47:23 -0600 Report

LAst year when we took a cruise along the "Mexican Riviera" I kayaked from Cabo San Lucas's beach to the Arch, and back. Between the tides and winds I had quite a workout, and am glad I took a waterproof camera to proove my feat. The entire distance, to-and-fro, was about 2 miles, but with the active currents we actually paddled more. This year I wanted to hike up a Volcano and look inside (marshmallows are often taken to roast in the ambient heat) but I simply cannot do that extreme stuff anymore. I used to be horribly shy but the necessity to earn and living and always finding myself in the leadership role, whether it be in church, work, or other pleasure activities, I speak up when necessary.

Turtle
Turtle 2009-12-24 22:47:30 -0600 Report

I do not know anything about a bakers cyst so I guess I did not have one.

The dr I had does not use one of those machines. It is something I will ask about with #2. 2 is not schedualed yet. I am just not ready,
Turtle

jayabee52
jayabee52 2009-12-25 11:37:33 -0600 Report

The Knee Drs used to use them [back in the day when I was a C.N.A.], thinking they aided with the recovery and avoided blood clots by the constant motion. They had discovered, though, that the benefit was not so great, that recovery was better from actively [as opposed to passively] exercising the joint, so the machines have fallen into disuse. My mom has had 2 knees replaced -one in august of this year and one the year before. Her Dr didn't use the machine for that reason. He put her on PT and she doesn't complain of pain. I plan on calling her today (Christmas) and I may ask her about her experience.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-25 16:57:15 -0600 Report

I had mine done in 2005, jan and Oct—-my friend had hers done about the same time, without the machine, and was so SLOW—-but guess everyone is different—-can have problems no matter what, I guess!! Glad mine are behind me, or on my legs at least!! Merry Christmas is winding down, our daughter and her hubby just left and had a WONDERFUl day, the ham turned out GREAT too! Thanks, Harlan!! PR

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-12-23 20:07:59 -0600 Report

I have had both knees replaced, in 2006, one in Jan, the other in Oct, used that machine that bends for you, several hours at a time—-thru the day—-not TOO much—-but it seems that I got along a lot better than a friend of mine that had to rely on her own exercise program. With so much pain, did you have a Baker's cyst behind it? That causes lots of pain—-even afterwards—-our minister's wife had that, is Ok now, but it took about a year—-Best of Luck and love to you, Turtle!! Pat R

jayabee52
jayabee52 2009-12-23 15:23:14 -0600 Report

So how was the Dr appointment on 12/14? Any good news? My mom just had her 2nd knee done last August. Says she's doing well with both. The Dr who puts the prostheses in is the key. Unfortunately her Dr is in Ohio or I'd share the name with you. Let me know how you are doing.

Harlen
Harlen 2009-11-30 16:59:34 -0600 Report

I had it done 24 years ago and yes it was painfull
you just got to work thrue it .I know it been there dont that . Work that knee hard and it will stop in a short time
If you dont it will take a long time to get it right
Best wishes
Harlen

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