Feelings about Flu Shot H1N1 Shot

By Darron Latest Reply 2009-10-15 06:11:29 -0500
Started 2009-10-07 08:07:39 -0500

What is everyone feeling on the flu shot and H1N1 shot? I have never taken the flu shot before, but being dianoised this year I am a little more concerned than I have been in the past.

53 replies

Vicrgreen 2009-10-14 20:39:06 -0500 Report


My doctor said he was involved with giving the shots when they had the last swine flu "epidemic" in, I think he said 1979-but could be wrong about that. He said he didn't like what he saw then and he had seen nothing this time around to change his mind. He and his family (wife, son, daughter-in-law) are not getting the shot. He also recommended against my taking it.

I saw something earlier today, I don't recall where, that said they are now saying it can lead to Parkinson's Disease as well as some other really bad things.

I also read that people who are over 50 have some acquired immunity to swine flu. Why I didn't see in the article.

Regular Flu Shots

I have already taken my regular flu shot. I've gotten one every year since my Diabetes diagnosis, before that I didn't bother but Doc said I should get it so I do. Last year and the year before I got the pneumonia shot as well. This year they are saying you only need to do that every 10 years. Why the change I don't know.

I hope you all make the right choices for yourselves.

Crashnot 2009-10-15 06:11:29 -0500 Report

Folks over 50 have been exposed to older variations of the swine flu virus that have been circulating since the 1918 epidemic the article said.

Nana Jones
Nana Jones 2009-10-14 19:18:32 -0500 Report

I always get my flu shot every year because my doctor recommends it. As for the H1N1 vaccine, I have not made my mind up about it.

US331242 2009-10-14 12:33:31 -0500 Report

My doctor says I need the Flu shot and H1N1 shot. As a scientist I need more then just someone 'telling' me to put something in my body.

The research I've done has found there is very little risk in taking the shots. However, the effectiveness not as clear cut. Viruses mutate to different strains and can do so every few days. When you take one of these shots you are taking it for a specific virus strain and generation which has its own make-up. When that virus mutates, the effectiveness decreases and depending on how many generations from the original strain, depends on if it is effective at all. When the make a flu shot, they need to pick one of thousands of strains floating around, if they pick wrong as they did a few years ago, many people will become sick with the 'flu' because they predicted the wrong strain and generation.

There's the chicken and the egg scenario here, where if we protect everyone from spreading a specific virus strain, that strain will eventually become extinct. But its need for survival forces the virus to mutate to something that can continue thus the shot becomes less effective for each generation of the strain that comes from the virus. So part of the debate is, do we leave things alone and fight what we know or let the strain mutate to something unknown?

All in all, with today's technology and direction, I see no reason for me not to get the shot and if that virus ever hits, then I'm protected.

GabbyPA 2009-10-12 07:10:23 -0500 Report

I just want to say that I am not a doctor, I am not a medical person in any way, and the choice is yours to take or not take the H1N1 vaccine. It is a decision you have to make for yourself, but all I can do is offer you some additional research.
If your doctor tells you that you need it, and you trust them then do what you feel is right for you. I just want you to ask them questions first and if they answer you in a way that you find satisfactory, then make your decision based on that. Either way, your life could depend on it, so make an educated decision.

jayabee52 2009-10-12 11:58:34 -0500 Report

Howdy gabby

I'd be interested in receiving the PDF you have on the H1N1


2catty 2009-10-12 17:39:23 -0500 Report

My toddler and teen and myself never ever get sick from the flu shot. Only if we don't get it. Now if we don't get it we get sick enough to go into the hospital. The flu shot protects us big time. But I think we'll skip this first H1N1.

Troy's Mom
Troy's Mom 2009-10-12 04:07:31 -0500 Report

We got our regular flu shots. I'm just scared about Troy getting sick. The strange thing I get a shot every year and I get horribly sick every year. My husband does not ever get one and he doesn't ever get sick. Even when I'm sick he doesn't catch it from me. I'm starting to become very suspicious. I asked the nurse that gave me the shot if she got one and she said no. What is up with that? I'm too scared to give the children the H1n1. I hope I'm making the right choice.

GabbyPA 2009-10-12 07:04:00 -0500 Report

I think you are. There are so many things in the vaccines that we are not aware of. Many people have asked for a list of ingredients, similar to how we have on our foods. It only seems right. But we don't get them because there are some really bad things in there. Mercury for starters is used in the preserviative for the vaccines. This is going into our kids! Man, that is not right. So yes there is a risk when you are in a flu season, but if you are doing the right things for your body and being careful, you can make it thru the short time of the flu.

Troy's Mom
Troy's Mom 2009-10-12 17:14:52 -0500 Report

Ya..it is scary and I forgot to mention My two boys got the flu shot last Thursday and they are both sick now. They have not been sick in a very long time. And I have been fanatic about hand washing and antibacterial gels for their hands. So is it suspicious that they got sick right after the flu shot. They had slight fevers, cough, runny noses and Troy vomited twice. I feel like a bad mother if I don't give them the flu shot and then I still am confused and worried even though I did give them the shot. I just don't understand why this isn't more clear to us. Troy goes through enough on a daily basis and I am always so worried about him. His cough is bad right now and his nose is runny and he tosses and turns all night. Was this from the flu shot? We are a stay at home family and he isn't around other kids. I haven't even seen a sick kid. What else can I say it is. To flu shot or not to flu shot.

kdroberts 2009-10-14 11:00:39 -0500 Report

The vaccines don't contain mercury and only some contain thimerosal which is a mercury compound and used as a preservative. The single dose doesn't contain the preservative, only the multi-dose one does. They have also released the drug insert for the approved vaccinations which lists the ingredients.


and for the ingredients only


Not saying I think people should or shouldn't get vaccinated but some of the info about the vaccines I've heard from various sources is either wrong, outdated or slightly misunderstood.

I'll also add that even though the live virus is used in a couple of the vaccines it's an attenuated version and many other vaccinations are attenuated. For instance TB, typhoid, polio, measles, mumps, rubella and chicken pox.

GabbyPA 2009-10-14 11:36:30 -0500 Report

I don't mind the idea of the attenuated virus, but in a spray, it is still out there and that is just nuts if you ask me. That is why they have said that the nasal spray can make you contagious for up to 20 days. Why would that even be considered a good idea?
I am glad to see that they are doing the ingredients. Then you can really see for yourself if you want that in your body, thanks for the link.

2catty 2009-10-14 13:33:16 -0500 Report

I talked to the health dept. today about the H1N1 and they said it was going for the little ones and the ones right now taking care of them. My little one could of gotten it today and me until they found out I was diabetic. The mist is not for people with complications. And they asked me if Conner had any complications too. So I said we would just wait for the shot. It is going around in our area really bad. I keep Conner home most of the time.

tholz 2009-10-10 22:29:13 -0500 Report


Can you sent me the info to please

GabbyPA 2009-10-11 12:10:32 -0500 Report

Tammy, go to the message box here and send me your email address. I cannot load it thru this site. It is an attachment PDF.

Turtle 2009-10-11 20:07:03 -0500 Report

I trust my doc too and if she tells me to take the shot I will not the mist. I have problems w/ breathing too so that is an added issue for me.

ZenPuppy 2009-10-10 19:45:41 -0500 Report

No flu shots for me and absolutely no H1N1 shots. They are just scarry. I take OPC3 and Vitamin D & C along with a Multiple Vitamin.

imsuzie2 2009-10-10 21:23:22 -0500 Report

I had my flu shot when I saw my primary on Thursday. He said he wants me to take the H1N1 SHOT when it is available, not the mist. He said with diabetes I should get it and he thinks people with respiratory issues also needs to get it. He told me he will be taking a shot too. He has taken great care of me for years, and I trust him to make those decisions for me. I will take it when available. S2

Turtle 2009-10-10 18:08:59 -0500 Report

As a diabetic, my doc said I must have my flu shot every year ans so I get it and got it this year. I am not sure about the other shot. I will discuss it with her first.

sweething 2009-10-10 08:45:51 -0500 Report

Still not sure about the H1N1 shot; always take a flu shot. I have asthma and other things that the flu (either kind) would be extremely complicated.

2catty 2009-10-10 13:50:42 -0500 Report

In my area there was a little girl that just died from H1N1. And the hospital has a sign up that says any child 16 and under cannot be in the patient waiting areas. My friend is just not getting over it and has two babies. There are a ton a people that are getting it in my area. I always get my flu shot and know that I do I don't get the regular flu. But I am a little weary about getting my little one the new nasal mist coming out for swine flu. Maybe I'll just keep him away from people. And make sure he washes those hands a lot.

Anonymous 2009-10-10 02:43:21 -0500 Report

Gosh, this discussion sounds more political than medical or supportive. And I will probably get slammed for expressing my opinion.

GabbyPA 2009-10-10 07:57:47 -0500 Report

Oh, don't be shy.

I think I am the only one on here that has expressed anything that is remotely political...but the government has made it political with mandatory vaccinations for health care workers in some states. I don't agree with that at all. But I would not slam anyone for sharing an opinion.

Everyone here is more sharing their concerns and their experiences. So don't be afraid. The question of the discussion was how do we "Feel" about the shots. I shared how I feel. So can you.
If you support it, that is great. Share with us why you do. If you don't support it, that is fine too.

I have personally done a lot of reading and research on it. So I felt that my views were worth sharing. Like I said, I have a legal document PDF that I can send to anyone who wants to do some of their own research on it.

But if you watch Dr. Oz at all, you will find it quite interesting that while he is forced to take it, and supports it verbally. His wife and children will not be getting the H1N1 vaccine. Hmmm, I find that interesting.

thinker51 2009-10-12 01:21:32 -0500 Report

Please send me the file. I already had the regular flu shot last week. My doctor hasn't said anything on this H1N1 shot to me but before I make a final decision on it I'd like as much information as I can get on it. My youngest son is in high school he's ask me about the mist one we've not maded a decision on it for him either.

GabbyPA 2009-10-12 07:00:03 -0500 Report

If you go thru the personal message board here and give me your email, I will be more than happy to get it to you.

GabbyPA 2009-10-08 07:42:55 -0500 Report


The nasal spray has a LIVE virus in it and it is going to be prone to being more contagious than even the shot, which can be contagious for 20 days!! OMG, don't take this stuff. If you want some compelling literature, I have a PDF that I can email you if you want.


lipsie 2009-10-10 11:34:25 -0500 Report

Gabby…not that I am taking that … I know NOTHING of it but I take the regular shot every year cuz I get the flu every year and usually end up in the hospital over it…my immune system is very bad. Anyhow, I am interested in that information if you don't mind… willnotbringmedown@yahoo.com small Thanks so much! Hugs! Sheila

GabbyPA 2009-10-10 20:40:38 -0500 Report

I sent the document off to you. I hope that it helps. It is long and it does get technical, but the over all information is very straight forward. The decision is yours. I just want to arm you with enough information to help you make an educated decision.

2catty 2009-10-07 21:41:40 -0500 Report

I always got the flu every other year since I was a little girl and a few years ago I started getting the flu shot and never get now. The H1N1 is fixing to start giving them out here but they are for babies up to 4 years old. Get the babies protected first and then the other children, then others with medical issues. I don't know if I'll get my little one the nasal mist H1N1 or not. I thought it was a shot at first but they showed it on the news tonight and it is nasal mist.

tholz 2009-10-07 22:48:15 -0500 Report

I have to call dr for other stuff. So I will ask about this flu shot.Tammy

Alicia039 2009-10-08 03:29:20 -0500 Report

I tend to catch just about everything my son brings home from school. I do get the flu shot and so does my son. I still tend to get mild flue at least once year but hate to think how bad it would be without the shot.

Still on the fence about h1n1. I was discussing this with sister this evening. She is a registered nurse. She also tends to catch every bug out there. She is getting the vaccination and urged me to do so. Esp. since I have had pneumonia twice this past year. I just really wish that it wasn't a rushed vaccination. No data on how people are going to react is really scary.

So like I said, still on fence. Might just wait and see how my sis does after she gets hers :)

tholz 2009-10-07 18:54:50 -0500 Report

I have never goten the flu shot. My daughter that is away at school got it and she got sick. So I am not sure about this.

XSWEETSX 2009-10-07 20:30:50 -0500 Report

I took the flu shot about 10 years ago and got pretty sick also…so needless to say although im worried about not taking it since I have COPD…i also am petrified of getting sick so i wont be taking it.

daniel velazco
daniel velazco 2009-10-07 21:02:03 -0500 Report

I always take the regular Flu shot, My wife never takes it as she always gets
sick when she does. As for the H1N1 I don't know if I will take it. Dan

Blue Moon
Blue Moon 2009-10-07 17:40:59 -0500 Report

I won't be getting the vaccine or a any flu shot now or in the future. I question what is actually in the vaccine since the manufacturers are refusing to administer it to their own families. Instead I'm an advocate for vitamin C. Whenever I feel a cold coming on I will take 500mg to 3000mg chewable s and one can never take too much vitamin C because it goes through your system. Usually 500 mg is enough for most individuals.

SkipT 2009-10-07 17:25:42 -0500 Report

I never get a flu shot. I do take 2000 units of vitamin D3. I haven't even had a cold in over 8 years.

GabbyPA 2009-10-08 07:52:57 -0500 Report

I read that 1500 units of D3 and 3000 units of Omega along with antioxidents will do the trick for helping you build your immune system.
I have heard explained that this virus is very aggressive in getting your immune system to fight itself. So especially if you are healthy, DONT' TAKE THE SHOT! The reason that the elderly have not been as badly effected by the Swine flu is that they have weak immune systems generally and so they get a milder case of it.

Wash your hands, stay home if your sick and if you are around people who are sick, wear a mask or just avoid them all together.

Oh, and just for your information. The official "symptoms" of the flu are including vomiting. That is not a flu symptom, so if you are vomiting after you get the shot, what do you want to bet that it is because the shot MADE you sick. Of course the vaccine makers are protected by the government against any damages...what a sweet deal for them.

So like Skip said. Take your vitamins, eat right, exercise and steer clear of sick people....DON'T GET THE SHOT.

Crashnot 2009-10-14 10:58:14 -0500 Report

The latest guidelines I've found for D are 35 IU for every pound of body weight. That's allowed me to figure out a good dosage for my preschoolers as well as my husband and I. So far no bad colds for us!

ptsparkle 2009-10-14 11:09:50 -0500 Report

I agree with you on not taking the flu shot. I have never taken one, and don't plan on it. Especially the swine flu shot. Is the government really looking out for us??? I have never taken vitamins or supplements either, but the older I get, the more I think about it. It's just with all the meds I now take and the cost, it's hard to lay out more money for the vitamins and supplements. But I'm still considering it.

Crashnot 2009-10-14 17:32:40 -0500 Report

The more I learn about vitamins, the more I take! Vitamin D can be purchased for $3-$6 a bottle and will last at least a month. Here's an interesting link on why not to take the vaccine and use D instead:


and another on figuring out your dosages:


I've also found "Reversing Diabetes" by Julian Whittaker a huge help in figuring out which vitamins and supplements will address my needs and budget.

Sarguillo 2009-10-07 14:40:22 -0500 Report

I take a flu shot evey year. I tend to get alittle sick when I get the shot. I am not sure if its mental or not. They say it shouldnt since its dead but I do get sick. My wife gets so sick when she gets her shots that she has stopped getting flu shots. I dont know about the new shot for the H1N1 shot. Guess I am going to wait and see.

jtausch 2009-10-10 01:12:54 -0500 Report

my wife and i got the flu shot this year for the first time in years, I was fine but my wife had alittle fever and was aching all over and was tired for 2 days she also got the pneumonia also and her arm hurt for 2 days on that one

hbkunkel 2009-10-07 14:40:12 -0500 Report

I have already gotten my regular flu shot and do not intend to get the H1N1 shot on the advice of my doctor. He feels that when anything is rushed to market like this has there maybe underlying problems that won't surface until many people have been injected.

PAT L 2009-10-07 12:41:04 -0500 Report

I had the flu back in the 70`s an have not had it since, I have never had a flu shot an I will not start now. My wife has never had one either, nor has she ever had the flu. As for the other my kids, came down with a nose problem an sore throat , which I gave them some pinicellian just in case of other problems came up becasue of the flu, an in 3 days it was gone, they had a very low fever at the time but it pasted in 1 day. we did not go to the doc but it looked like the swine flu from what my heart doc told me. I had a runnie nose about that time, an that was all.

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