High BG after following nutritionists advice

SusieS1944
By SusieS1944 Latest Reply 2017-12-10 20:38:21 -0600
Started 2017-11-28 09:35:27 -0600

Good morning. I visited with a nutritionist who suggested foods that are good for T2D. My main problem is with breakfast. She told me that a great breakfast is steel cut oats made with water and a few blueberries. Or, as a second choice, one large shredded wheat with low fat milk and a few blueberries. I had the hot cereal this morning. One hour after eating it my BG was 215. My resting BG this morning was 116. The same thing happens when I eat the shredded wheat. Isn't this too high? I take 750mg of metformin at night. Can anyone shed some light on this problem? Thank you.


17 replies

Anonymous
Anonymous 2017-12-10 20:38:21 -0600 Report

The blueberries will increase your blood sugar. If you enjoy steel oats— a great source of fiber. Why not add a scoop of unsweetened organic pea protein powder? I am curious to know your blood sugar results after adding some protein.

WASHED OUT
WASHED OUT 2017-12-07 14:16:12 -0600 Report

Oh No, no no, if I had followed what the current nutritionist had given then I would have never went from a A1C of 13+ to 5.4. Low carb and high fat diet helped me do this while also improving every other health problem I was experiencing. I know that is against the grain of many doctors and nutritionists advice, but if you listen to what has worked for many on this site you can see proven results. I shudder to think where I might be now if I had continued to use the diets that were given to me by supposedly professionals which follow a failed diet set up 30-40 years ago which increased the health problems of patients. Of course you do the study for yourself but many here have proven what I tell you.

Pegsy
Pegsy 2017-12-07 09:37:01 -0600 Report

If I followed the advice of my first nutritionist I would be on all kinds of meds and still have very high glucose readings. Unfortunately way too many of today's nutritionists advise using outdated and dangerous information. I agree with Steve. Go as low carb as you can and you will likely do much better. I did. My meals contain meats, cheese, veggies, small amounts of fruit. I do not eat bread, pasta, rice, I do not drink milk. I use Almond milk instead. I do eat steel cut oats in small quantity each morning but I never combine fruit with that. I also cook scrambled eggs with veggies & cheese every morning. I sometimes eat small amounts of potatoes and sweet potatoes with my dinner. I do not consume any sugar with the rare exception of a small amount of (low sugar) dark chocolate a couple of times per week. I hope this helps you.

Just Joyce
Just Joyce 2017-11-30 21:31:07 -0600 Report

I agree with everything people have said. My nutritionist who is my good friend and neighbor specializes in diabetes nutrition for Geriatric patients. The meal plan she did for me is done based on my many food allergies and someone much older than me. It works for me. It was low carb high fat. She had to change it once my gall bladder was removed and I had to go to low cab and very low fat. It works for me.

I was on the phone with her when I read this and I read it to her. She said the nutritionist used industry standards which does not work for all diabetics. She said she can't tell me to tell you what to eat because you are not her patient.

Did you read the label on your box of shredded wheat. I just checked original large biscuit shredded wheat. A serving size is two biscuits which is 37 carbs deduct 6gms of fiber and you have 31 grams. divide that in half and 15 grams. add the carbs from the milk and blueberries and you will find that you ate a good amount of carbs.

Do you know how many carbs you can have per day/meal? if not you should ask your doctor. When the doctor gave me the total carbs I could have, I cut them in half per meal. I never have highs. I can have lows but that comes when I skip a meal.

Suzy24
Suzy24 2017-11-28 21:18:50 -0600 Report

When I was first diagnosed 3 months ago I was given a paperback book by the nutritionist at the hospital. One day I decided to have breakfast based on a 'breakfast menu' straight from the book that matched the carbohydrate total the nutritionist told me to have at every meal - 50 grams. Breakfast was oatmeal, 1/2 cup blueberries, one piece of toast and an egg. What a mistake that was for me!!! I found this site and soon learned to do what was best for me which was to lower my carbs. In the beginning I was so scared to not follow the 'rules' but now I'm not so scared to experiment. What a difference it has made in my numbers! It can take a while to get your bg readings in an acceptable range so don't get discouraged. My numbers are now getting more consistent and I finally feel there's hope. I've learned I have to be in charge of my diet and not rely on the experts so much. The true experts are the members here. Even though everyone's diabetic experiences and needs are different, just reading about all of them has made me realize how much there is to learn. Trust your body and numbers. You'll find the right path - you've gotten some great advice on breakfast. I had bacon this weekend for the first time in months, my numbers were good and I was a happy camper. Good luck!

SusieS1944
SusieS1944 2017-11-30 14:43:56 -0600 Report

Suzy, it sounds like our experiences are almost the same. I got up with a fasting bg of 118. I had bacon and eggs with a piece of diet ww toast. One hour later my bg was 121. Yay!

Suzy24
Suzy24 2017-11-30 17:50:02 -0600 Report

That's wonderful! I'm still learning everyday what works and what doesn't and sometimes it changes. I've been having decent morning numbers but still have high night time numbers. I definitely started having better numbers by cutting carbs lower than the nutrionist and official hospital booklets recommend. Going to have bacon this weekend and test before & after! Thanks for sharing your experience!

haoleboy
haoleboy 2017-11-28 13:18:41 -0600 Report

let your meter be your guide.
might I suggest you try a more traditional breakfast of say … bacon and eggs … or an omelet with some cheese and vegetables?
obviously your "nutritionist" is holding on to some outdated beliefs about dietary fats and cholesterol.
try more fats and proteins, fewer carbohydrates and see where your post meal reading are.
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❤ eat as if your life depends on it
Steve

Chris Clement
Chris Clement 2017-11-28 12:19:51 -0600 Report

Just to back up the comments made already, your highs are from those foods. Even with the fiber you have in your oats, there are carbs in them. The milk, regardless of how much fat, adds carbs. Those carbs will cause a rise in blood sugar.

I would add this perspective. Even with diabetes of any type, my view is that foods are more than the carbs they contain. I try to look at food a bit more broadly and consider all nutrition. If you can fill up and get the nutrients you need from lower-carb foods, that is awesome. But, you also need to live and enjoy foods. I don't believe in one single way for all people to eat.

Regarding keeping blood sugar down, my recommendation for breakfast would be to add some protein to replace some carbs. Additionally, there are more fiber-rich foods to try, and ways to make traditional breakfast with less carbs. Lots of great recipes on this website to try.

Type1Lou
Type1Lou 2017-11-28 11:58:29 -0600 Report

It's most likely due to the carbohydrates that you are eating. Track the total carb grams in everything that you eat. If after eating them, your BG is too high, you need to reduce the carbohydrate content of that particular meal. Once you reach a level that gives you good BG readings, you'll know what the right amount of carbs is for you. We are all different with different tolerances for certain foods. It has been my experience that many nutritionists advise people with diabetes to eat way too many carbs. This was true when I attended a diabetes management class last year. Personally, I find that I can maintain reasonable blood sugar levels by consuming no more than 110 total carb grams per day. I also exercise regularly and my weight is good at 117 lbs. Carbs are a MAJOR key to good diabetes control, no matter which typre of diabetes you have.

SusieS1944
SusieS1944 2017-11-28 12:08:12 -0600 Report

Hi Type1Lou. Thanks so much for your reply. I need to start paying better attention to carb count. If I stay at 100/ day, I do just fine. What messed me up is having the nutritionist say eating whole wheat bread, pasta, brown rice, is ok. Obviously it is not ok for me. :-(

Luis65
Luis65 2017-11-28 11:25:56 -0600 Report

Many of us here follow a low carb high fat diet. I didn't look up the carbs on the shreded wheat but a 1/4 cup of steel cut oats comes to 27 to 29 grams + the blueberries. Some here restrict the daily carbs to 15 or 20 grams. Others less then 100.

You will have to find what foods work for you. I have not had good luck taking the diet advice of 3 different nutritionists. Some here will soon be offering good advice.

SusieS1944
SusieS1944 2017-11-28 12:04:21 -0600 Report

Thank you so much. I think I am more sensitive to carbs than many other Type 2 diabetics. I appreciate your response.