Need to learn more

By FLDawn Latest Reply 2009-10-10 14:41:39 -0500
Started 2009-09-03 10:37:14 -0500

I am a new diabetic (type2) My doc did my A1C and then sent me a script. As I read things on here I now see how dangerous low sugar can be and have come close to hitting bottom. I tend to not eat during the middle of the day or do snacks and must make a concious effort now. Should I get a meter and test myself? Are there free classes anywhere on how to do these and know what to look for? I think my doctor is trying to help me because I am unemployed and waiting for my SSA disability hearing but I also know this is important. I have seen the ads for free meters but then found out that they only want you if you have medicare. I do not qualify yet for that. I felt as though I hit a brick wall one day and suddenly had trouble talking and walking as though my whole body had turned itself off. Is that how it feels when you have dropped too low? I went and ate something quickly and lucky for me I was in a mall so could do that. A nurse I do volunteer work was with me that day and said my doctor is an idiot for not telling me more and never should have just mailed me the script for three months and left me at that. I like him but I do feel that without insurance and income I may have been blown off even if it was because he knows I don't have the money. Any advice will be appreciated. I don't need to hear he is an idiot…that won't help me learn.Just diabetes advice and info thank you.

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2catty 2009-10-08 12:12:59 -0500 Report

You know even though glucophage does not make ones blood sugar go low you still need to test. I would tell my Dr. that I would feel better knowing where I stood with my progress and would like to have something at home to check it with. The low feeling could simply be not eating meals right or skipping. I know a lot of non diabetics that do that and even get the shakes from it. But being diabetic you should be testing just to know where you are at. That way you can adjust meals around them and exercise and log it all. Good luck!

FLDawn 2009-10-08 20:07:22 -0500 Report

Thanks for writing. One thing I DID learn from people here and even my doctor is that it can contribute to low BS. He told me that before I go swim for hours I need to eat fruit or something to have extra sugar in me to avoid the drop. I know it is not the Metformin itself but the meds combined with the new eating habits and exercise. There is absolutely NO doubt that it is low BS I feel when it hits me. I had it again yesterday while at a memorial service and luncheon etc that lasted much longer than I expected. When you are in an icy room and can feel the A/C yet still break into a sweat you know things are not right. I also get the headache which I now recognize and if really bad I get the hard pounding heart as well. I too had read that oral meds don't make your bs go low but you will see on here somewhere in my blog that this is not correct. The first time it hit I was with a nurse that does volunteer work with me. All of a sudden it was as though I was in slow motion or stopped. I could barely talk or walk and even seeing became strange. She told me my doctor was stupid not teaching me about things and that it was dangerous. I could have been driving when it hit me. I was lucky and in a mall so got something to eat and waited until I felt right. I know that I have to make myself eat more and that not exercising for so long and now kicking my own butt is confusing my body. Thank you again though for the support on testing and making me feel I am right about wanting to do so.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-10-09 22:22:05 -0500 Report

I am so glad that you KNOW what is wrong and can do something about it!! I am so fourtunate in not having low BS, and also feel so much better since that cancer is out of my side, I feel Great!! Almost feel guilty as I know so many don't feel well!!! but Power and Love to ALL, Pat R

FLDawn 2009-10-10 14:41:39 -0500 Report

Pat I am so glad to see your reply here as you did not share that with me about the cancer being OUT!!!! Thank God for that…with all you have struggled with please don't you dare feel guilty about a thing.

smp1939 2009-09-23 19:51:05 -0500 Report

If you go to WalMart you can get a Reli On Ultima meter and the strips. The meters are about $10 and the strips are about 50 cents apiece. You can get 20, 50 or 100 in a box. They are as reliable as the other expensive strips. I have checked them against the others and they give almost the same readings

FLDawn 2009-09-26 20:56:49 -0500 Report

Hi Thanks for the info. I found similar in Target with the same kind of prices. I need a script though for my new insurance to pay what they will. My doc wants me to hold off doing any bs testing until he sees me next week and does a non-fasting test. He is normally an awesome doctor so maybe there is a method to his madness but I think it is strange that never told me to test. I have been on meds for two months now. Thanks again though and I am glad to hear that the meter is accurate because I wondered due to the price.

Vicrgreen 2009-09-26 22:10:23 -0500 Report

Several other discussions on this board have noted that most insurances don't cover the Reli on testing supplies. I've never tried them so couldn't say from personal experience.

FLDawn 2009-09-27 10:41:30 -0500 Report

Thanks for the heads up. I already asked Target about supplies and was told that with a prescription I would be fine with their low cost one. I am guessing that these are probably a store brand of sorts. I would love the Breeze or Breeze 2 so I don't have to load strips but the meter alone is high priced.

I was told by my insurers BCBS of Florida that I can also pay out of pocket and send in a form to get re-imbursed but it takes 4-6 weeks they tell me. The site that John and Amy have gotten a deal on in regard to supplies is awesome which is why I considered paying then getting my money back. Rightnow though it really is not something I should be doing if I can walk-in and buy with my insurance.

I am jumping the gum anyway because my doc seems against bs testing so far. I will know more Thursday and hopefull get a script from him for supplies etc. The incidents I have had with low bs might have been avoided if I had been testing. I think I need to test after swimming and eating because that is when I seem to have issues.

Thanks again

Vicrgreen 2009-09-27 17:32:26 -0500 Report

Exercise can certainly contribute to it. Eating shouldn't hurt you if low BG is the problem, but failing to eat sure can. Of course if you eat something with to many simple carbs they can wear off and leave you in the proverbial lurch.

Can't count the times I've come to in the ER from what my doctor calls an "insulin reaction"-read low BG. The last time it happened I was in his office talking to him when it hit, so he got to see it first hand.

If your doctor doesn't think you should be testing and you are having low BG problems you need a different doctor.

Rest wishes.

FLDawn 2009-10-03 12:40:30 -0500 Report

Hi and thanks again. Yesterday while volunteering with my group at a health fair I had some luck :-) Abbott had a representative there and was doing bs testing. I had mine done and the good news was tht it was better than in July when I was first alerted to having Diabetes. After a good breakfast my sugar was 145. We spoke about my not testing etc. and the man looked horrified as did the Pharmacist from CVS who shared the table. I was GIVEN a mini FreeStyle along with a membership to their Promise Program which helps pay for testing supplies.

When I called about getting a script for my supplies so insurance could help pay, I was told I did not need it but did need a non-fasting blood work-up. I have to go back Monday because I had a hissy fit about not seeing my doctor and that I had made an appointment to address issues with him. He hid in his office. YES! IT IS time to find a new doctor. For whatever reason he seems to not want to acknowledge diabetes type 2 as something other than a fat person disease and it will go away if I diet and exercise. I find his attitude ignorant but now have to figure out where I will be going. I am sad because I started with him when he started his practice but he is too big for his britches now I think. No longer having an empty office I guess he doesn't need me especially when I don't have top shelf health insurance.

On the high note, I have dropped 20 lbs and lost four and a half inches off my waist if I did not add this earlier LOL. My brain is lost too I guess. This loss has been since the last week in July and it is painless and cheap to do. I find I spend less money now because all I buy is fresh food. Reading labels has horrified me when I see the carb, sodium and sugar contents even in things like WW frozen foods. I also have found how pathetic it is out there for diabetics when it comes to finding anything healthy for us. They said on our news that one out of five in Florida have diabetes. The companies who make these foods will be shocked someday when we no longer buy anything because we can't eat it due to its contents.

Is anyone else using the FreeStyle promise program or meter? Just curious what you think of it.

Thanks for the straight talk and not bull out here…because of this site I might get nervous but am not overwhelmed anymore. It is one-stop shopping for me as far as diabetes info.

LOL I was looking at the newsletter and a recipe on it saying MMMM that sounds good. As I read it I thought that Dreamfields Pasta had stolen MY recipe and then realized it IS mine. It is for a simple lasagna that we can enjoy.

On a closing note, I received a call earlier today from one of my best friends. Her husband passed yesterday from complications of DIABETES. As we all know on here, it is not a joking matter or to be taken lightly.

His situation started a couple of years ago AFTER he had lost his sight to diabetes. He didn't take it serious and while on a trip to Europe he failed to mention his food hurting. Long story short, he had a leg amputated when they returned then a foot then daily in a hyperbaric chamber and dialysis. About two weeks ago he suddenly stopped talking in mid-conversation and became unresponsive and was rushed to the hospital. He became concious again but I had a feeling it was not good and sadly I was right. The only thing helping about this is that we all know that he is in a better place now. I cry for my friend because she lost her best friend and the man she loves. She told me not to be sad that she will be with him again someday.

Watching this happen is why Diabetes scared me so much. What I learned from this man is to take this serious and take control. We do not have to be terrified but need to be aware and vigilant. The instructions for diabetics are for a reason.

Thank you all for being here. I shared the website with many people at the health fair yesterday and again last week. I can't sell to save my life but I BELIEVE in this site so want to tell everyone how great it is and hope that is OK.

Vicrgreen 2009-10-05 13:24:22 -0500 Report

I haven' used FreeStyle Promise but have used 3 other FreeStyle Meters and have been very pleased with them. Also, if you have a problem with the meter they will replace it immediately and without charging you. I'm happy you have it and I hope it will give you good numbers (not that you won't have to "earn" them).

A good doctor is beyond price. Don't settle for one who doesn't give you all the help, advice, and information you need.

Good luck.

FLDawn 2009-10-05 18:32:09 -0500 Report

Hi Vic and everyone

Today I went to the doctor and am happy with all of the results including his attitude :)

My non-fasting blood test came back with a count of 7.1 VS 7.4 in July. I also had a very long talk with the doctor today and found out it IS possible to educate one of them LOL

Today he sat with me and explained things I did not quite understand about the sugar VS body made insulin. He also informed me that the script he wrote for me last week before getting my results needed to be revised. He said he did NOT expect such a dreastic change in such a short period of time. I was diagnosed July 26th of this year so in reality it was a little over 2 months not 3 months since my initial, fasting A1C test. Last week he assumed and wrongly that he had to up my meds to 2X a day. Now he said that is not what he wants to do especially when I told him of my exercise plan and when he saw my weight loss and how my BP has come down. We all know what they say about NEVER ASSUME…RIGHT? LOL I am glad I opened his eyes. I also told him about how this site has helped me and he wrote the site down. I am teaching professionals which I find interesting. Last week at a health fair and today, my Doctor I was about to leave because of attitude. He always was a very with it kind of guy and caring so I was upset when he didn't seem to take this seriously. Today he addressed everything I had questions about.

One thing my doctor does stick to though is that he intends to not have me on meds for life. We discussed how many must increase the doses and often go to insulin shots. He told me that this is fairly new and not necessarily because your Diabetes is so bad as much as that it is not responding to oral medication. Because of the damage that Diabetes can inflict they feel it is necessary to get it under control relatively fast. I don't do needles so will continue to kick my own butt and watch what I eat.

I am glad to hear that you like the meter. I did testing over the weekend although am having issues with getting blood out of the side of my finger. I am such a baby about sticking myself LOL.

Seeing results really helps me want to keep doing the right thing.

Thanks everyone out here, without your support I would have been lost and no doubt will still have questions.

I love my new little meter and the pack it came in with everything in one place :-)

Vicrgreen 2009-10-05 20:28:26 -0500 Report

Try rubbing the sides of your finger and then shaking your hand before you lance it for the drop of blood. Helps bring it to the surface.

Adjust the lancet so that the needle is only going in the minimum distance you need to get the drop of blood. I seem to remember that the FreeStyle Meters use very small blood samples so you shouldn't need a deep stick, which should help some.

FLDawn 2009-10-08 01:14:47 -0500 Report

Hi Again, I tried all of that but it seems I have a hard time getting blood out no matter what. I had watched the nurse at the clinic when she did the side of my finger so I did the same to stimulate the blood.

One strange thing, my doctor still says no to bs testing. I forgot to get a script to have my insurance cover supplies so I called. First his nurse said she was sure he would want me to and then she called me back to say she forgot that you don't have to with oral meds. He knows I tend to run low bs at times but is really a stickler for the diet exercise cure. I read somewhere that going by how you feel is NOT always a good indication. I think you should not have to wait to feel bad to treat yourself if it is low. The other night I had a bad time of it because I was very bad for the first time since July and ate things that could do no good to anyone. Later on my heart was pounding, headache etc just like low bs…but it was high. I know because I had test strips and used them rather than panic at 4 a.m.

Abbott gave me a card with the meter and I have yet to activate it. Supposedly it will save the same amount that my insurance will pay for supplies. Now that I have a meter I only need strips because they also gave me a large bag of lancets. By the way. how often do you change those? I was thinking that a dull one might be my issue getting blood out but I changed it and still could not. Hmmm maybe I have ice water in my veins LOL…Nope, I wouldn't have diabetes if that were true huh?

I think I will have some supplies on hand just in case. So far it seems that the only one who believes in not testing is my doctor. The man for Abbott (sounds like a TV series ha ha) and pretty much anyone I tell about me not testing bs seem horrified. I do seem to hit lows fairly easy. Today I felt it again because I was at a memorial service and then all that goes with it. It is a weird feeling to sweat when you can feel the A/C. YUP, I intend to control this thing because it really annoys me now LOL…FYI that is how I get about things that annoy me, I want to be rid of them including some people :)

Thanks to all out here…for the last week or so it seems that people around here where I live have been cranky, miserable and not helpful as well as rude. When I come on here I can breathe a sigh of relief because I know there are nice people here. We may be cyber buddies but we are definitely friends. What can I say but YOU ALL ARE AWESOME!

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-10-08 11:38:36 -0500 Report

Boy, I KNOW what you mean about coming on this site to find comfort and support!!!!! What is with the "not so sweet" people of this world???

Keep searching for ways to get your supplies to test with as KNOWING so helps!!!! The not knowing can drive one nuts!!! Literally—-it is your body and you know how you feel and to deny that can get anyone into trouble! For Pete's Sake!! Why did God give us feelings, emotions, nerve endings and such, if not to help protect us ALL!! Hugs, Pat R

Barbi 2009-09-23 19:07:00 -0500 Report

Hi, I know exactly how you feel! When I was first diagnosed my Dr. gave me a 'script and I left the office feeling like I had hit a brick wall! After I went home and thought about it a bit I wondered the same questions: do I test? How do I test? How often? What the heck is diabetes anyway? Where do I go from here? I called my Dr. back and his nurse was really kind and told me that since I already had an appointment with an Endo (that's another long story) I was to take my meds exactly as directed and the Endo would take over my care. My Endo is young and agressive and really keeps me in line. It takes MONTHS to get an appointment with a good Endo, so while you are waiting through your present lack of insurance why not find and make an appointment with an Endo? Also I HIGHLY recommend you locate a copy of The Born-Again Diabetic by William Dubois. This book is easy to read, easy to understand and will answer lots of your questions. You can find it on line through Amazon or Best wishes!

FLDawn 2009-09-26 19:57:32 -0500 Report

Hi Barbi
Thanks so much for understanding. I have another appointment with my Primary this week coming up. I called to ask about IF I need to test etc. because I have a new insurance that the state came out with and it will help pay for supplies but you need a script. He is going to do a non-fasting blood test on me. I KNOW Metformin has changed my life since July. I could not stay awake and was in the bathroom all night etc. I would be so hungry I could chew my arm off even after eating a huge meal. It didn't make sense to me. NOW, I am happy to say that since July 26th I have lost 17 pounds, 4 inches off my waist and now have energy. I didn't know the weight part until I went to my specialist for injuries from an MVA. No more wanting to sleep 24/7 and part of it may be that I am not up and down all night. I now sleep through the night. I swim almost daily and also do exercises in the pool for at least an hour usually more like two or today I was in there three hours plus. I LOVE the water can you tell ha ha.

I did look into an Endo but their price range even with this new little insurance I carry is too much right now. They want $350 for an evaluation. They are one type of doctor that does not work with BCBS with this new plan. The others agree to a lesser amount then I pay the difference. My other specialist charges $250-350 but it cost me $113. Now I am waiting to see how it handles the test he did. It could be scary and I know the Endo does the same thing. Evaluation and tests.

My doc is strange about Diabetes as if he does not accept it. He keeps harping that diet and exercise will take care of it. If he takes me off the meds I am going to be upset. I don't want meds but I want to feel better. The Metformin kicked in really fast. I realize now that the way I was sleeping I might have fallen asleep and not woken up someday. I wasn't lazy I was in a deep sleep and heard nothing and could not stay awake.

I love this site. I do volunteer work and worked at a Health Fair today. I gave this site to someone who does training and education for people to recognize symptoms and learn how to deal with the illness. At the end of the fair he stopped by to tell me that even without seeing it he was telling people about it because I was so enthusiastic about the wonderful people here and the support system.

Sorry for the novel…this is my energy level now LOL. Early July I would not have been awake long enough to boot my computer up.

Thanks again

alamolc 2009-09-13 10:50:32 -0500 Report

I was in your position about 2 years ago. It wasn't easy but I was very fortunate to have God and my mom on my side. Romans 8:31 says "For if God be with me, who can be agianst me?" I know when my BSL gets low my vision is the first to get blurry. I then start shaking very badly as if I had drank too much coffee. I have gone into hypolycemic shock twice and I didn't know what happened to me until I was given glucose tablets. Candy, soda or fruit can give you an instant sugar boost so keep something in your purse to help you should this keep happening. I found help at the county medical clinic where I live when I needed help with my supplies. You must check your BSL at least once a day so be sure to get a meter and supplies. I have an extra meter but not the supplies to go with it but if it will help you I will send it to you with the supplies for a couple of months if ya want the help just let me know! May God bless ya, alamolc

FLDawn 2009-09-14 19:55:05 -0500 Report

Thank you so much for your words and guidance. I just found out that my new insurance will pay for some supplies so I should be fine getting a meter. I know that meters are reasonable it is the strips that are costly. I should be OK but want to learn in a class on how to do it the right way. Thank you again. Dawn

Monty5283 2009-09-14 22:38:19 -0500 Report

Thanks Dawn for admitting me to the group

I just reminded myself to never type inside here.
I just lost a longer message and am a terrible typist.

Main point was you are to be commended for taking advantage of this group. I am a type 2, know what I need to do, but have no discipline. Any help out there?

My name is Terry and changing it soon.


Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-09-15 06:28:23 -0500 Report

You have come to the right place!! Welcome!! We are all learning together and have great support on this site!! More later, am ready to leave for the city!! I feel great so the surgery should go fine! Hugs to ALL, Pat R

Darly 2009-09-15 09:23:12 -0500 Report

Welcome Terry! I have done the same thing so many times,lost everything I You are at the right place and will see that very clearly withing a day. Everyone here are very compassionate,kind,caring and ready to help you in any way they can. I would have left here long ago but some have told me to keep on going and soon I will be on the right track,it has worked and it will work for you…Darlene*

FLDawn 2009-09-26 21:04:51 -0500 Report

Terry this is not my group but WELCOME to THE group :-) I am a newbie and this is a wonderful group of people out here. You won't find a better support group anywhere.

As far as discipline…for me it was sheer fright. I don't want to die and now I realize that the way I was sleeping I might not have woken up one day. I was sleeping 24/7 and exhausted and slept a deep sleep so I heard nothing including fire trucks outside my bedroom window (not for me). I never use to be able to sleep. The only thing that got me up was to go to the bathroom or finally feel hungry enough to chew my arm off. WE are not alone out here and it is a great feeling.

Make sure you check out recipes etc. As a newbie I can tell you not to overwhelm yourself. The food part I find easy other than giving up my carbs. The great thing is that you don't have to give things up totally just do in moderation. I found after going on meds and after a few weeks of behaving that I lost my taste for many things I use to crave. I tried I admit to having a cupcake or two and know what? It was NOT good! Bread no longer tastes the same to me. Maybe it is the meds but it is tasteless to me. I know when dieting in the past that when you get away from fried foods you find that if you eat them they taste nasty afterwards. Not that it ever stopped me.

I love the plate method of eating. Have you tried it? The American Diabetes Association sent me some great booklets that are large, colorful and easy to follow. The plate method just has you divide your plate in half. One side is your veggies or salad and you can usually eat as much as you want if it is not the wrong veggies with too many carbs or a salad loaded with dressing and things in it that are not healthy like meats and cheeses etc. You can have those but moderation is the key. Anyway, the other side of your plate is in half again. One half is carbs like rice, potato, pasta etc. the other part is your protein like chicken or whatever. They say those should be the size of a deck of cards. I am very visual so this works for me.

Terry, besides being afraid, what worked for me was how much better I began to feel in a very short time. I have dropped 17 pounds, four inches from my waist and have energy. This is just since the end of July as I just wrote to someone else. I have NOT been able to budge weight for ages. Besides that, swimming which is something I enjoy but had not been doing…well, it has given me a great tan even with good sunblock and I use to itch alot and get rashes easily and maybe it is the vitamin from the sun but I have stopped having that happen. This happened a few years back when I was swimming quite a bit so the sun does something good for me. I am not stupid, I use 45 sunblock here in Florida and am only out during the day for maybe 2 hours max. Sometimes I go out at sunset and swim longer.

There are a ton of resources on this site so make sure you use them from recipes to blogs such as here where you can ask questions. All I had to do was introduce myself and ask questions. You see the wonderful people who responded. We are all in this together so remember that and don't overwhelm yourself. Right now I am trying to follow the basics of taking my meds, good eating and exercise which I now know is very important. Knowledge is Power but too much can make you crazy.

Ooops got to go…we suddenly have a heavy rainstorm and it is thundering. Out come the plugs so off the computer I go.

Best of luck

bighead 2009-09-12 19:07:04 -0500 Report

Hi FLDAWN…Its so good to know you, By the way my name is Barbara..I have a swimming pool and just try to exercise in it as much as I can that really helps, But you really need to see a Doctor for this problem. also most hospitals have Diabeties classes you can go to and they really help alot, they have trained people to answer all your questions, When my sugar got to low I would get the shakes and eat everything I could, but since it went over 600 and they found it I lost 65 lbs in a month and a half which I really didn't need to loose all that. I try to keep my sugar around 100 it works for me, not easy but works,lol.I really hope you get this all fixed up Sweetie if I can help just give me a call..God Bless and keep your head up I know you can do this…Barbara

FLDawn 2009-09-14 19:53:37 -0500 Report

Hi There Barbara, what a sweet message. I was diagnosed in July and am trying to find a class locally to learn more. Unfortunately my doctor did not give me info other than to tell me what my A1C was and a prescription as well as to diet and exercise. I think I am my own worst enemy about getting low bs. I never thought eating would become a problem I seem to forget because I no longer have the hunger I did before going on meds and cracking down on my diet. I just don't get hungry very often so time slips by. When I get in the pool I can stay there for hours if the weather is right then start to get a headache and know I need to go inside and eat something. Now I try to have things handy that I can grab. On the good side of this, I have lost 4 inches off my waist since July. I don't have a scale so don't know weight-wise but will when I go to my nerve specialist for my hands next week. Hopefully my bp is still good also. It went from 160 or higher/100 plus to 113/61 about a month ago. Without all of guiding me to things I would have gotten myself in trouble I am sure. I know I need a real class on this but so far cannot find one. I will be seeing someone Wednesday that worked for the county in the health dept so hopefully she can tell me what I can find in the area. Thank you so much for your friendship. Dawn

rain 2009-09-09 19:45:22 -0500 Report

For sure get your blood testing with diabetics every day is different. It is important to read and learn about this but dont get overwhelmed. Eventhough there are thousands of diabetics on this webcite we are so different meds affect people food affects us different exersize has individual affects on our sugar . Keep a journal and write your sugars after you have your favorite food to see how it affects you. some diabetics can handle milk others their sugar soars. Just take time and pay attention to yourself. You have to learn your body in a whole different way. You'll be okay you have all of us

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-09-09 19:50:06 -0500 Report

True, and well put! PR

FLDawn 2009-09-09 21:44:13 -0500 Report

Thanks to both of you Rain and Pat…I have no idea what triggered things as I ate a good meal for dinner and thought I had taken in enough. I've been so strict with myself that I did not have anything to give me a boost when I thought my bs was low but then I found a can of regular soda. I drank about 4 oz and the headache went away as did the pounding heart and nausea. Times like that I wish there was a live chat just to try and get a quick fix on things. The harder I looked last night the harder it was to find symptoms of low VS high but then I thought…I had high before being diagnosed and never felt this way so it must be low. Not a good way to diagnose yourself though.

Thanks for telling me I have all of you out here. I know that and knew it last night.

Today was a great day and knock wood I am feeling fine again :) Thanks for your support out here.

hbkunkel 2009-09-08 21:50:49 -0500 Report

The American Diabetes Association is very helpful on the web and so is Web MD. As someone else said you will always be learning. I feel badly that your doctor did not have the courtesy to explain things with you. This site is a huge help. I'm glad you joined.

FLDawn 2009-09-09 21:47:17 -0500 Report

Thanks for the help and info. Before I was officially diagnosed I called the American Diabetes Assoc and they sent me a great packet with a couple of large booklets. One explains the good bad carbs etc. and how to divide up your plate etc. It is a good book to have when I am not sure although I think most natural foods are common sense. I think I was scared enough last night that I was in a little bit of panic so could not find the info I needed. That is why I wrote when I did.

Thanks again for your friendship out here.

FLDawn 2009-09-08 20:45:43 -0500 Report

Question: Is it true that unless you are using insulin you are not at risk for dangerous hypos? I just read a section that states they are false positives when you are only on oral meds. All I know is how queasy I feel and a pounding heart and headache tonight. Not sure why but it doesn't seem to want to go away. Sometimes it is scary when you are not sure what your body is doing and you are home alone. Guess I will go and lay down and hope this headache goes away. Have a good night folks :)

2catty 2009-09-08 21:19:27 -0500 Report

Oh no, when I first was diagnosed and was on diabeta those things made my sugar drop so low I could barely talk. I use a pump now and glucovance and those pills still lowers my sugars along with my pump.

Sarguillo 2009-09-09 18:08:19 -0500 Report

THere are pills out there are are agressive. They will make your BS drop like if you had taken some medium fast insulin. They also are hard on your kidneys so if your doctor wants to test your kidneys, it might mean he wants to know if they are in shape to be able to handle one of these agressive pills. Im on one myself. It was a choice I was given, pills or a med-fast insulin to go with my slow acting insulin. For after meals that is. If my tests ever show that they are affecting my kidneys, then to all insulin I will go. Good luck. Good question.

FLDawn 2009-09-09 21:53:00 -0500 Report

Thanks to both of you about bs lows. I know that my pills are doing something to my body for the better for the most part. I have energy I have not had for a long time. The reason I had asked about oral meds is because I followed a link from this site to another and saw the thing about false positives. After reading it I thought that it meant I was making a big deal out of something only in my head. It states that you do get the low reading but it is not possible to have a real problem like if you are on insulin. I do know how my body feels now when I don't do something right in regard to eating when I should. I am having a hard time with the 3 meal a day thing and snacks. Funny, I never thought eating could be a problem ha ha…my appetite and cravings have changed so much that I no longer think of food as I did.

Thanks for letting me know I am not crazy about feeling low sugar. I figured as much after I found a can of real soda and drank about 4 oz and felt so much better in a relatively short time. I must admit though I talked to myself and again thought it was in my head but that headache would not budge until after I did that soooooooo.

I can't express enough how much I think of all of you out here helping me with my questions. Thank you again.

timmer1950 2009-09-15 06:27:20 -0500 Report

I can only speak for my own experiences. I never had to deal with low BS while I was on Metformin. Now adding 2 types of insulin I constantly have to watch BS so I don't crash. Hope this helps.

GabbyPA 2009-09-08 12:32:30 -0500 Report

Hey FLDawn,
Sorry that you have this new diagnosis, but you are in a good place here.
There are free classes, call your local hospital and see when they offer them or who else in the area might. I posted 7 classes on this site that I attended and they are a good place to start. They are called TCOYD Class #1 and you can search them with the "Search Discussions" tab on this page. I did #1-#7 and they are full of good teaching from a certified Diabetic dietitian.

I also go to a clinic that I found also thru my local hospital. It opperates on a sliding income scale so you can check on that as well. I get my prescriptions for $10 for 3 months supply and that helps me a LOT. I am in a similar situation financially as you. It is frustrating at first, but there are great places out there. It just may take some time to find them.

Most meters are free, it is the test strips that cost the $$. Often there are rebates in your local drug stores that will give you back the cost of a meter. I just gave away my extra ones, but there might be someone here who has an extra one they can send you. That is how I got a few of mine.

Keep reading here, and use the search button to fine discussions that will help you more. Everyone here is great and we are very willing to help you out in any way we can.

FLDawn 2009-09-09 22:02:20 -0500 Report

Thanks for the info and the thoughts of how to save money. I have this new insurance that covers some things including diabetes supplies though I think there is a low limit on cost. Whatever it takes off is better than nothing and now I can go to the doctor and have blood tests done etc. It will also pay for nutriton classes etc. if done by approved, board certified people. Eventually I will probably see a diabetes specialist but even with the insurance the difference is too much right now. No doubt I will be taught well there. I love my primary but feel he did me wrong so far on how I am learning about diabetes. I love all of you but think he should have done more than mail me a script and a note about diet and exercise. I think he blames my weight on this and has no sympathy though he has never been on me about it even with high bp. The good news is that I have gone from readings of 150/101 or higher in July to 113/61 a few weeks ago at my specialist. All I can think is that just doing the swimming and right diet is already kicking in a bit.

Do you need a prescription to buy strips etc?

In case anyone missed it, this site has a deal now with that looks good with prices compared to many I have seen. Do I need a script to buy supplies?

GabbyPA 2009-09-10 12:19:33 -0500 Report

Wow, that is a fantastic change in your blood pressure. Mine runs around 118/76 now and I am feeling great about it. I never really ran too high, but these are better numbers for me.
A lot of doctors just don't know much about diabetes and there is so much misinformation out there, even among the medical field, so it is hard to know what to do. That is why you have to come armed with your logs and questions.
My doctor has never written a prescription for my test strips. I get mine on Ebay, so I don't need one there. So far that is how I am working it.
Keep up the good work, and as you learn more, share it with your doctor. Then you will really start to enjoy the relationship you have with him.

FLDawn 2009-09-12 13:35:05 -0500 Report

Thanks Gabby, sounds like your BP is great too. I was just told by a woman I know who is a nurse that they have lowered what a healthy BP number is…I told her now I understand why they did not say anything about my low number. I have never been this low before and can only attibute it to the swimming almost daily now and pool exercises plus healthy eating. I don't have a scale but have lost 4 inches from my waist since July. I think the sand is just shifting LOL but I will take it. You mentioned eBay have you checked out the new deal with that John wrote about on here?

Bekki Diabetic
Bekki Diabetic 2009-09-10 15:26:37 -0500 Report

If you want your insurance company to pay for your supplies you will need a prescription but you do not need one if you are going to pay for them yourself.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-09-10 19:57:05 -0500 Report

I have a script for mine for 2X testing a day, for one month, then Medicare pays for them, but they are letting me order a few more as I test more in trying to learn what foods affect me in what way. Best of Luck! PAT R

FLDawn 2009-09-12 13:29:48 -0500 Report

Thanks for the information about prescriptions for strips. I have a new insurance through the State of FL for those of us under 65 with no insurance. I posted about it in the insurance catagory on this site. Anyway, they will pay $50 towards supplies and I picked up my meds to find they cost me $0 yesterday. Just my meds alone are almost the cost of my premium of $61. You can't be turned down for pre-existing either.

I guess I will call my doctor's office for a script or find out from the insurance if I can submit and get reimbursed. That deal on that this site has arranged sounds very good to me. Does anyone here use the Breeze or Breeze II meter? It seems to have good reviews and I need something for other than my finger area.

What on earth would I do without all of you out here? No book can cover what all of you live with day to day. Thanks again.

FLDawn 2009-09-12 13:32:10 -0500 Report

Thanks Pat…I notice the strips are where the cost is. I looked in Target yesterday and was appalled at the almost $100 price tag on 100 strips. How can they justify and why do they do that to us? I can't get medicare yet. From what I have read on here it seems that by rights you need to test more than twice a day but who can afford it?

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-09-12 14:32:14 -0500 Report

True, I felt trapped by my two times a day limit, as I really wanted to test more, after one food, or an exercise, to see how my body was responding! I wondered how those not old enough for Medicare were getting by—-MY, That in itself is overwhelming!! The same was true for my nerve meds, over $100 a bottle for about 3 kinds, plus my Advair Inhaler of 500/50,was $180 a disc—-had been getting it through a special program thru the court house, until the govt stopped it with their BETTER PLAN! —-!!!! I have been struggling by without it, but in the hospital they gave it to me to help clear this left lung out, BUT they kept it, I thought maybe I would get to bring it home as no other patient should use it, but it probably went into the——can hardly say this—the TRASH!! MAN!! what we are forced to stoop to to survive!!! But we WILL! Hugs to ALL< Pat R

FLDawn 2009-09-14 19:59:05 -0500 Report

Hi Pat I hope you are feeling better. It is a disgrace when we cannot afford what we need to try to become or stay healthy. I have two migraine meds, one to keep the number down and one for when a headache grabs me…both are over $200 a month and do not come in generic form. My doc is great with the other stuff and tries to give me the four dollar meds but he can't give what does not exist. How they can justify the price for those strips is beyone me, I mean almost a dollar a strip of some brands! No doubt we all should be checking our blood sugars much more often but who can afford to?

FLDawn 2009-09-08 12:25:04 -0500 Report

I just added a new post full of information for anyone from Florida that needs some type of insurance to help control their diabetes and buy supplies. I posted it under the category of INSURANCE…I hope it helps some of you. PS…pre-exisiting conditons cannot keep you off it.

FLDawn 2009-09-04 18:27:20 -0500 Report

Thank you so much to all of you who took the time to reply so fast. Before I had my A1C done (7.4) I had a couple of free screenings at a Little Clinic sponsored by Publix grocery stores. That put me on the alert so I called the American Diabetes Assoc to see what info they had. They sent me a great packet as far as diet. It had a couple of booklets and they are user friendly. I WAS a carb junkie but since my first screening I have worked hard to stop that addition. I have also become quite the label reader which is why I am buying things like chicken and fresh veggies and being good about carbs. Exercise has also become part of my routine and I swim and exercise in the pool at least 4x a week. I love to swim and have a pool handy so that is not a hard thing to motivate to weather permitting. Thank you all for telling me to test. I thought it odd not to be told that. I did look in Walmart and noticed test strips are about $25 a box VS 50-60 for others. I may have to go with a higher priced one though because my fingertips are a problem when it comes to pain and I think I need a meter you can use in other spots. Anyone have feedback on that type of meter? I was looking at the Breeze II by Bayer. Knowledge definitely has made me less afraid. I know watching my friend's husband how serious this can get, he lost vision, a leg, a foot, has dialysis everyday now and needs to go into a hyperbaric chamber. Right now it is one day at a time for him. Three years ago they were on a cruise together doing fine until he failed to tell her his foot hurt. This was a big wake-up call for me and I want to do the right things. Thanks to all of you I can see that I am on the right track and I too believe knowledge is power. You can't stick your head in the sand and hope it goes away.

I am thankful for this site and all of you who took the time to write me. One good thing my doctor did do was put me on a $4 medication so that helps.

I have been feeling exhausted since yesterday and having trouble staying awake. I have eaten right etc. Does this just happen sometimes? It is not the same feeling I had when I skipped a meal and felt as though my mind and body shut down. I've had so much energy since going on Metformin that I am a little bit concerned to be crashing like this. Prior to the meds I could sleep 24/7 and still feel tired. I love your feedback because you all are where I need to get to with knowledge and yes, I am sure this is a learning experience for the rest of my life because as we age our body changes. Thanks again :-)

SkipT 2009-09-05 02:26:24 -0500 Report

You mention your fingers getting sore. Do not stick the tips of the fingers. Instead use the sides of each finger tip. This will give you two spots per finger and hurt far less.

Vicrgreen 2009-09-05 07:16:08 -0500 Report

And work your way across your hand, don't do the same finger twice in a row. By the time you get through to the end the first one has had time to heal up.

FLDawn 2009-09-06 12:51:06 -0500 Report

Hi Skip, I do not test yet and had not been told to by my doctor. I have learned here that I should be doing that. My fingers are sore from injury to nerves from an MVA. They are sensitive to touch even with another finger. Thanks for taking the time though to make sure I am doing it right. When I got my free screenings I noticed how they use the side of the pinky and have read since that the blood flow is better from there for whatever reason. Thanks again for taking time to write.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-09-05 21:01:06 -0500 Report

This site is excellent for information, recipes, support from trusting friends. As for the fatigue, I have had so much trouble with that, but am not the one to tell you, WHY? I just found out this week that I have a malignant kidney, and have had it for quite awhile as it is big as my fist, with a nodule on top that has been rubbing my colon and tummy, causing much of my constipation—fatigue—-so, be careful, have yourself checked out as there are so many things that can cause this fatigue, and none of it is easy to live with when most judge a person by the amount of work that they can do, which has put me in a bad position for a long time—so Best of Luck to you and hope that you can take one problem at a time, and work through it!! Hugs and Welcome!! Pat R

FLDawn 2009-09-06 12:48:48 -0500 Report

Thank you Pat for the welcome and hugs, they are good medicine. It is nice to know I am far from being alone. I am just being weaned back on to my anti-depressants so have a feeling that is where the fatigue is coming from. I had been so energetic prior to this. Why must we have to choose when it comes to health? I tried going without those meds but came to realize after a couple of months that I should not be off of them. You are right about how we are judged by what we can do and also by how fast we can do it. It cost me a job last year and is keeping me from finding one now because I cannot "hit the ground running" as they tell you even at unemployment that you must be ready to do these days. I am not lazy but know what I can and cannot do.

Thank you again for your kindness and answers.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-09-06 15:25:58 -0500 Report

You know what?? In all of the excitement of my not feeling up to par, I forgot to share that my AIc last week was DOWN to 5.8 ! Isn't that GREAT??!! At least I am doing something RIGHT!! ha—PR

Jipwhip 2009-09-04 10:42:08 -0500 Report

Yes, by all means go and get a meter. Do shop around for a meter, because the cost is in the test strips. Meters are cheap to come by its the test strips that will trip you up. And call your local health department for classes. And most definitaly find as many books as you can get your hands on to read. The library is the best place to go. Educate yourself it is the most important thing you can do. And one last thing just take one day at a time.

FLDawn 2009-09-06 12:53:13 -0500 Report

Thanks for telling me where to start for the classes. I will do that after the holiday weekend. I had read posts on here with people mentioning classes. I wish I had this when I was still in Boston where we had the Joslin who has everything you could ask for in the way of classes etc.

Vicrgreen 2009-09-03 21:03:08 -0500 Report

You'll still be learning the rest of your life. There is always something new on the horizen.

Yes, do get a meter. I don't know anything about the RelyOn (I'm guessing on that spelling) meter that WalMart sells but others on here have said it is inexpensive and the strips are as well. The big drawback to it seems to be that insurance companies don't cover it but that is not your immediate problem.

I have a meter and some supplies for it I could give you but I found it read high so it would probably not be of benefit. I changed it for a different one as soon as I could.

God bless.

FLDawn 2009-09-08 11:59:23 -0500 Report

Hi, I forgot to thank you for your offer. I just got a basic insurance that is offered here in Florida called Cover Florida. Now I need to figure out how much and what they pay. I am going to post info about this insurance for people that might live down here as it is new and even doctors are not aware of it yet. My doctor is on it and had remarked he did not know what it was LOL…hmmmmm I TOLD HIM that he was under it. Anyway, it looks like the cost of a box of strips will pay for my premium so if they cover the supplies I am golden. Thank you so much for the offer though. All of you out here are so kind I am almost speechless. Why can't life be like this everywhere?

Sarguillo 2009-09-03 17:19:14 -0500 Report

Hello, Welcome to the club. yes, you do need to test. Get a meter. But look around. Its not he cost of the meter, its the cost of the strips that really cost. Meters are a dime a douzen.
Try to take a class if you can. Check with your local community hospital, or clinic.

Meds are needed but there are other things to learn about being diabetic.

Learn to eat lower carbs. Less bread, more vegtables.
Not to say you should cut out all carbs as your body does need carbs, but cut them down.
Remember, carbs =surgar=carbs.

When reading labels, dont look at the sugar content.
That just lists mostly processed sugars.
Look at the carbs on the labels.

I get along with a carb count of about 30 carbs for breakfast, 45 for lunch and about 60 for dinner.
SOme others like to go even lower than that.
But at this level, I am comfortable.
And has helped me loose about 100 lbs in the last 2 years.

Learn to love ice tea or water.
Diet soda is your friend. Do not drink full sugar soda.
I also like to drink crytal light type drinks.

Back to labels, learn to read the labels on your food.

Its tough not having an income.
There are some posts here for those who are low income on how to get their medical treatment.

You should look for those posts. They will be helpfull to you.

Good luck, You are not alone.

We have all been there so we please feel free to ask away.

No question is a stupid question if you really want the answer.

As for low's, yes, we experience them from time to time.
Even us who have been around the block get them.
Had one just yesterday. Was feeling dizzy, weak,
Stupid me, took my meds, Insulin and Pills, forgot to eat breakfast. I was in a hurry and didnt eat at home.
I keep some oatmeal at work for those occasions when I need a breakfast. Had to make up a bowl. Ate, waited 10 minutes. Felt better. Then went to lunch to eat a proper meal.

Also know that this is a great community and an open community. We offer advice, share our ups and our downs. Our fears and our conquests. and we ask away to each other as needed. Please feel welcomed here.

Blessed be.

FLDawn 2009-09-06 12:57:37 -0500 Report

Hi, thank you for everything you have listed. I realize this is life-changing but at least have a start on it. Being on the meds has definitely changed how my body is feeling whereas before I was just ignorant to what was going on and probably would have died before realizing if not for the health fair that day. I understand why it is called a silent killer…at least with high blood pressure you get headaches if you are lucky. I just thought my eating was out of control which is why I was hungry all of the time and that age was affecting my bladder at night. I can't believe how I can sleep through the night now since starting Metformin.

Blessed Be right back at you my friend

Sally 2009-09-03 17:01:36 -0500 Report

THe library became my best friend after I was diagnosed. I read as many books as I could, including carb counting books and cook books for diabetics. THis site is a wealth of information, and great people who are willing to answer your questions or just lend support. Educate yourself as much as possible, and feel free to lean on us.

Bekki Diabetic
Bekki Diabetic 2009-09-03 19:01:34 -0500 Report

I agree with you that knowledge is the key to everything. I too have become very close to my library. It is much easier than going out and buying all the books you would need. I got my first diabetic cookbook the other day and it is a real awakening as to what I should be eating.

Harlen 2009-09-03 11:25:52 -0500 Report

You need to test.How much depends on your needs every one is difrent. I test 6 to 8 times a day just to keep trac of my BS and keep them where I need them too be. theres a lot of info here and some good frends too .
good luck and please let me know how your doing it is a hared thing to get a grasp on

Judimar 2009-09-03 11:22:02 -0500 Report

You might try checking with your local health department about classes. I know the health department here in New Mexico offers a free diabetic education and nutrition class. I found them by looking in the phone book under Department of Health and Human Services when trying to find health care for my sister who is staying with us. I haven't gone to the class but am considering it because I have never been to one.

FLDawn 2009-10-03 12:43:02 -0500 Report

Fianlly got some answers. Our public health is doen by county and do not offer classes or anything HOWEVER the hospital does. Lucky for me I have one sitting behind where I live. When I am in the pool the medi-vac almost touches down in the yard. Anyway, thanks to all of you out here I learned that there was such a thing as classes. Knowledge is Power right?