Learning The Hard way

By beadmom Latest Reply 2009-08-19 13:52:12 -0500
Started 2009-08-18 16:34:49 -0500

So..I got changed from Metformin to something that doesn’t have the hypoglycemic crash protection…..and ended up in a work crisis (I’m the troubleshooter),that kept me in meetings all day WAYYYY past lunch (I did sneak in ½ an apple).

So then when I felt like the world was dropping out from under me and people were speaking a different language I thought maybe I should test. 84. Hummm.. That seemed not good. I went to Circle K (Next door) and got some superfood ( a drink that looks like swamp slime and tastes like it’s the best thing that was ever made for a body….30 carbs…High but effective. So hard to make those decisions when standing brainless in front of a glass case full of food. I almost went for a hotdog…which is really funny when you think of white bread and hot dog vs diabetic/vegetarian.

I feel much better now. Do we always have to learn these things the hard way?


11 replies

mamaoak 2009-08-18 18:46:58 -0500 Report

yes 84 is good but at first it felt really funny when you have not been that low kind of scary for me to. i keep a cranbery energy drink with me so i do not go to high apple juice in a small box i will have only a few sips the hole box is 27. you you can keep a tub of glucoses jell it works dont need much i have herd you can go lower bu i would not want to it scares me as well. take care of your self eat a small lunch not so many carbs you can fell funny going high as well. take care of your self hugs.

kdroberts 2009-08-18 18:17:39 -0500 Report

84 is good, it may not have felt good if you came down quickly or are used to running higher but it is perfectly fine and doesn't need to be treated. If you feel bad at that level then it's best to have a small amount of sugar, may be 4-6g and see if that takes the edge off things. It should and it will avoid the roller coaster of over treating and then crashing back down again. I would imagine that 30g carb drink you got sent your blood sugar pretty high.

You were right though, skipping lunch is never a good thing when you take certain meds. Which one were you switched to?

beadmom 2009-08-18 18:41:19 -0500 Report

Well. that made me go run and test to get an idea of how that worked on me. 159. That is close to average for me I run 135-170.

Good to know.

The new med is glypizide (Glucotrol) 2.5mg


kdroberts 2009-08-18 21:05:15 -0500 Report

You should work on getting your numbers down, plus get into a testing routine so you get useful information. When do you normally test? Ideally you should be testing at your peak after meals for starters so you can get an idea about what different foods do to you. Also, don't be worried about numbers in the 70s or 80s, even the mid 60s are good. Under 60 and you need to pay attention and the lower they get the more attention you need to give to them.

Glipizide could send you low, especially if you miss meals/snacks or exercise more than usual. However, if used right it should pose no major problems.

beadmom 2009-08-19 12:40:32 -0500 Report

It’s really very frustrating. My numbers were much better (no higher than 134) until I started on the regime prescribe by the medical community. They started going up 15-20 points a day until they got up in the 170’s and once a 200+. Then I got annoyed enough to think I was dealing with people who were idiots. I went back to my previous lifestyle, since it never did include a lot of carbs/sweets, with some modifications on timing. Now they are slowly going back down.

I test first thing in the morning, 2 hours before dinner (because I was told to but now I am not so sure about that..It seems like 2 hours AFTER would be more appropriate..but it’s a habit now) and at random times when I am feeling particularly good or bad or want to know how something I ate/drank effects me. (Like non-alcoholic beer..which in general has 15 carbs).

I use a lot of strips but I have good insurance and no one seems to care but me!


kdroberts 2009-08-19 12:58:33 -0500 Report

Don't test at random times, test strips are expensive so use them to give you information you can do something with.

If you have a lot, try this. Test right before breakfast and then every 30 minutes after you start eating for 3 hours. Then take the highest number and note the time after you started to eat. Do the same thing for a few days. From there you should be able to work out roughly how long after breakfast your blood sugar peaks. Now you only need to test then. Do the same thing with each meal because they may be different. At the end of a week you should know when to test after meals. If you use those tests with a before meal test you can find out what sort of raise in blood sugar your meal gave you. If it's not good then you can adjust the meal or just not eat it again. In the early stages I think it's important to take a pre-meal number because you may see a peak of say 175 and think the meal you had was bad but if you started at 160 then it would actually be good. Once your pre-meal numbers steady out and are pretty consistent you can drop that if you want and just test after meals.

On a side note, most of the professional dietary advice given to diabetics is guaranteed to give you an increase in blood sugars. Most dietitians and doctors are of the mentality that you take medication to allow you to eat the diet they say rather than to modify your diet to reduce or eliminate the need for medication.

beadmom 2009-08-19 13:52:12 -0500 Report

That's great info. I am also working on the exercise part of things. I lost 65lbs in one year by diet modification but have sat in the same spot now for a year so have to get the exercise part going. I got talked into a ballrooom dance class by my daughter thinking "not too strenuous" ACKKK.. SO NOT TRUE. Then we walk the rest of the week. I am a crazed gardener and have found that I take great joy in other people's gardens now but it's also going to cost me money. I really have to have some Evergreen Clematis…

Thanks, Ginger

BLC 2009-08-18 22:06:05 -0500 Report

True…84 is not bad. However if you have not been below 190 for a month 84 can feel like 24.

Harlen 2009-08-18 18:09:31 -0500 Report

Hello and you need to take care of your self I keep thing on hand I never know where I am going to be or what I may be doing and if I didnt keep thing in the truck I would be dead now just keep healthy you are the only you,you got

beadmom 2009-08-18 18:14:43 -0500 Report

I do carry stuff in my laptop bag when I travel because anything can happen in an airport that will deprive you of the next couple meals and many a time peanut butter crackers have bailed me out of a jam…Guess I need to treat my office as an airport…Kinda makes sense anyway. humm…I need a TSA scanner…


hbkunkel 2009-08-18 16:40:01 -0500 Report

No matter what, carry something with you to help yourself in those situations. An all fruit juice box is easy to carry and fast to react for you. They are around 15 - 25 carbs. If worse comes to worse make up an excuse like having to go to the bathroom and go to your desk where you need healthy, good snacks for this situation. Good luck.