Two out of 3 diabetics don't follow recommended diet

John Crowley
By John Crowley Latest Reply 2012-05-20 00:21:10 -0500
Started 2009-08-11 14:57:36 -0500

I read about a study at the University of Alberta, which is looking into reasons why 2 out of 3 diabetics don't follow the diet recommendations from their doctors.

I like it when we hold our own "unscientific" studies here on Diabetic Connect. I think it would be interesting to share with each other the challenges of following a healthy eating plan.

So, will you share with us your thoughts about healthy eating? First of all, tell us if you feel like you *are* following your doctor's recommendations. If you are, tell us why you feel like it's working for you.

If you're *not* following the recommendations, is it that you are not sure what you are supposed to eat at all?

Is it that you disagree with your doctor's recommendations?

Is it that you don't like the foods that are recommended?

Do you feel like you're not sure how to cook healthier foods?

Are you always on the road, eating out, and simply don't have enough control over the food you eat?

Does your family make it hard for you to follow recommendations?

I think we can come together to identify a lot of the challenges. Then let's pull together ideas for dealing with those challenges and help each other eat healthier.

473 replies

dcollette 2012-05-14 21:32:34 -0500 Report

Try a diet consisting of meat preferably lean meat, and any vegetable that grows above the ground, use fruit to keep from being to low, and cut out the refined carbohydrates. Relacore is a good diet aid I take it helps reduce the stress from excercise and stress in general. If you read about the herbs that Relacore has most of them help with blood sugar.

jayabee52 2012-05-17 15:57:09 -0500 Report

Relacore? Is that some sort of a supplemint or "neutraceutical" product?

CaliKo 2012-04-10 14:50:09 -0500 Report

Hi John,
Good topic! I think I follow my CDE's recommendations pretty well, at least when I'm eating at home. I do need to pay better attention to portion sizes, and probably be more careful when eating out. My family is pretty good. They like all my cooking, but like to add treats for desserts. It usually doesn't bother me. My son did mention he's getting tired of salmon and would rather see some white fish. I always try to have lots of salmon and tuna so I don't have to take fish oil pills. I'll find out in a couple of weeks just how well I've been doing lately…

locarbarbie 2012-04-09 12:28:03 -0500 Report

I am NOT following my Dr./ADA recommendations.
I know what "they" recommend, I wholeheartedly disagreed from the beginning. It was suggested that I consume 180-120 carbs per day, which to me was ludicrous. I also disagreed with the suggestions for itsy pieces of meat no larger than a deck of cards, margarine, egg white omelets, lean this and lean that!!
I know how to cook, so that is not an issue.
Re: on the road…It is not so much a matter of not having control, but more that there are very few healthful choices. I have often thought that it would be great if fast food restaurants offered steamed veggies for example, or simple baked fish. I am even nervous about ordering a salad since you read about all of the recalls on tomatoes, spinach, lettuce etc.
I live alone, so have only myself to blame if and when I flub up.
My diet plan…Low carb (in the ballpark of 45 carbs per day, that's the goal, don't always stick to it) High protein, the higher quality the better. I would prefer to eat all organic, grass fed, but not always feasible. Will be easier when the farmers market opens soon. I also look for wild caught cold water fish and try to buy managers discount, avoid farm raised fish. I eat healthy fats such as coconut oil, olive oil, grapeseed oil and yes, butter! I try to buy organic veggies as often as possible. I would love to grow my own, but not only do I live in an apt. with a tiny deck…I am also living a double life!!, I live 4-5 days at work, and 4-5 days at home. I try to eat a good variety of veggies especially kale, broccoli, spinach and a variety of lettuce. I use stevia and organic coconut sugar and SugarLeaf, a mixture of raw sugar and stevia. I drink either iced-tea with plenty of fresh lemon or seltzer water with a splash of Zevia (stevia sweetened soda), or just plain Seltzer with lemon.
My downfall is cheese and sundown! I can be virtuous all day long, but something comes over me after 7pm! This is my downtime when I park my ass in front of the tv and lose all control. I am still eating what I am allowed (what I deem allowable) such as 2-3 squares of dark chocolate (actuallly has antioxidants!) jalepeno pimento cheese (low carb but purchased and contains a ton a crappy ingredients such as HFCS) that I eat with a healthier cracker, sugar free pudding (again, low carbish but full of crappy chemicals) My portion size goes out the window oftentimes and rather than having one allowable snack, I have (gulp) several.
Well, I guess confession IS good for the soul, cuz I am re- reading this and considering erasing the whole thing. I know what and how I SHOULD be eating, I need to stop making excuses for myself. I want more than just ok blood sugar readings. I want to actually be healthier and have more energy.

Caroltoo 2012-04-09 14:07:43 -0500 Report

Sounds like you do a great job up until 7P. So … knowing that, how about preparing chemical free versions of you favorite snacks to keep in the refrig?

Another thought is that D3 might help you deal with the evening issue. It is being used now for dealing with Sundowning in Alzheimers — another subject, of course — but the similarity is the effect of lack of light on our thinking and eating processes. I've recently added D3 and psyllium (fiber) and find I snack lots less.

locarbarbie 2012-04-09 17:53:36 -0500 Report

Carol, I actually do (and have for awhile) take about 4000 U of VitD3. I have not noticed any decrease in appetite with that or Metformin. What I have noticed with d3 is that I seem to be able to ward off colds much better than with just vit c alone. I am now actually taking 17 pills each morning…don't ask me what they are and what doses! I am only taking 2 prescribed, the rest are supplements.

Re my sundowners snacking…I am just going to have to put on my big girl panties and learn to control myself!! Thanks for your suggestions as always.

Caroltoo 2012-04-09 19:13:23 -0500 Report

Sounds like a good solution! Interesting about the colds and Vit D. I've never seen that in the literature anywhere and no experience cause I haven't had a cold in years (even years before I started the vitamin D). Ah, well, twas a thought.

locarbarbie 2012-04-10 14:07:28 -0500 Report

Carol, your suggestion to have pre-prepared healthy snacks is the best solution…I was in a rush when I answered previously. I always plan to do just that but somehow I always seem to have a million other things to do and my needs fall by the wayside, (there I go with the excuses again!). If I could make my own jalepeno pimento cheese that came close to the junky one I love, I think that would be a step in the right direction. I also like to make and freeze the oopsies I had posted and also chopped chicken livers, deviled eggs, crispy baked kale, stuffed mushrooms and baked eggplant slices. It's true that when I have some of these things on hand, I do much better.

Caroltoo 2012-04-09 14:07:36 -0500 Report

Sounds like you do a great job up until 7P. So … knowing that, how about preparing chemical free versions of you favorite snacks to keep in the refrig?

Another thought is that D3 might help you deal with the evening issue. It is being used now for dealing with Sundowning in Alzheimers — another subject, of course — but the similarity is the effect of lack of light on our thinking and eating processes. I've recently added D3 and psyllium (fiber) and find I snack lots less.

shnell25 2012-04-09 10:52:07 -0500 Report

I will be honest when I first received the diagnosis in 2009, I was in a state of "whatever, it's not true for me" (not denial just didn't agree). Of course I told myself it would be alright the next appointment. My BGL was still the same as the previous appt. (thank God) because it could have been much worse with my attitude.

However, as the months progressed and I kept hearing more and more stories of people with T2 who ignored their doctors' advice, I had a wake up call. That and the fact that I started to feel like my energy was just draining from my body. There was one day where I could barely get out of bed and stay alert the entire day. I knew then I had to make a change.

I started monitoring my levels and taking my medication twice a day as the doctor had instructed me to. I slowly added more baked and roasted meats and veggies to my diet and cut out all the fried foods that I had a deep affinity for.

I added more vegetables and fruits to my diet and even salads (which I now find I truly love and will have as a meal sometimes).

Eventually I incorporated exercise into my lifestyle. As a result, my A1C levels improved dramatically, as well as my BGL. My doctor was so impressed with my improvements that shes changed my prescription to once a day and eventually it became once every 3 days and she says if I continue to obey her instructions and my levels continue to improve that I could eventually come off the medication (and that is my goal). I am sure with all that we intake in our systems with processed foods that eventually it will become a necessity that I take the medication, BUT if I can prolong that time, I will happily do that.

I say if you have a diagnosis, FOLLOW your doctor's instructions, but also monitor your levels often and discuss your findings with your doctor. He/she may have to adjust your medications and together you can control your diabetes.

If you still aren't willing to follow your doctor's instructions, then maybe you should consider finding another doctor; one who you believe you can trust and whose advice you will follow. After all it is your health that is at stake.

shorty 41
shorty 41 2012-04-09 10:11:33 -0500 Report

I found out in 2006 that I was diabetic and I have been to 3 drs. and no one has ever talked to me about any kind of diet. I don't know what is the best way to diet, I am trying to lose weight but it is hard to do i am almost 71 would love to slim down I weight 183. Going to ask my dr for a referral to a diabetic dr so I can get more info and more help. I am Type 2. My dr told me 1 time, at the start, that I needed to lose weight. I sometimes get so fed up I just want to say " to he— with it" but I don't, I have 7 grand kids 7 to 26 and 4 great grand daughters and I want to be around for much much longer so I will work to get more help.

shnell25 2012-04-09 11:54:10 -0500 Report

Hi Shorty; CaliKo is right most major hospitals do have classes for diabetics. I didn't take the classes offered at the local hospital here, but my sister and mother did and they received free glucose monitors for taking the courses and it has helped them tremendously. My personal doctor has a nutritionist in the office who helped me to look at my diet and suggested meal plans that I should try that would benefit me. My doctor gave me a list of foods that are mainstays in my diet with different ways to incorporate them in my diet and it listed their nutrition benefits. My doctor also helped me to order a free glucose monitor and since it's the same one she uses in her office for quick BGL tests, she showed me how to use it.

If your doctor hasn't discussed your options with you, then compose a list of questions for your next visit and ask them; don't let your doctor rush you out either. You're paying for that time slot so I would suggest you get your money's worth. Your doctor is supposed to and is obligated to answer your questions or to refer you to someone who can properly answer those questions and help you to plan a diet/lifestyle change that will benefit you.

CaliKo 2012-04-09 11:25:16 -0500 Report

Hello Shorty41, Most major hospitals have classes for diabetics. They educate on diet, medication, complications etc. Mine included a one-on-one meeting with the leader, a Certified Diabetes Educator (CDE), and she gave me a meter, showed me how to use it, and gave me a meal plan to achieve my target weight with carbohydrate, fat and protein amounts that I could eat each day. I highly recommend these classes. My doctor enrolled me in the classes which meant my insurance would cover much of the cost. Good luck!

locarbarbie 2012-04-09 11:08:47 -0500 Report

Wow, What a sad commentary on physician's that no one has ever even attempted to educate you regarding diabetes. Are you on any meds? Do you test your blood sugar? What are your A1cs? I am glad you will be seeing a different doctor. Let us know how it turns out!

Zolar1 2012-03-24 19:27:34 -0500 Report

If you're *not* following the recommendations, is it that you are not sure what you are supposed to eat at all? *NO*

Is it that you disagree with your doctor's recommendations? *YES*

Is it that you don't like the foods that are recommended?*ABSOLUTELY*

Do you feel like you're not sure how to cook healthier foods? *NO*

Are you always on the road, eating out, and simply don't have enough control over the food you eat? *YEP - IF I CAN'T EAT IT WHILE DRIVING I EAT BAD FOODS THAT I CAN EAT WHILE DRIVING*

Does your family make it hard for you to follow recommendations? *YES - I FEEL LIKE AN OUTCAST IF I CAN'T SHARE MEALS*

When I was first Dx with T2, I did saw the dreaded 'nutritionist'. I looked at the food lists and skipped over veggies without hesitation. she said 'I noticed you skipped over veggies, why?' I said I never have nor will I ever eat veggies.

So I paid a lot of money for her 'help' for nothing. I went on a modified Dr Bernstein diet that I designed. I lost weight rapidly, cholesterol was perfect, A1C went from 6.8 down to 5.3 in about 6 months or so, blood pressure as low as 80/48, and healthy as a horse. Only problem was I couldn't maintain that lifestyle as it required EXACT times (to the minute) to eat and exercise. I was losing 5 pounds of body weight a night. I had to ask for insulin and that immediately stopped the extreme weight loss. Now I regained all that fat and am unhealthy again, and STILL on insulin…

The Dr complained that I was eating an unhealthy diet (before using insulin). I asked her a simple question - "what were my numbers again?" If I was so bad then how was I so healthy? She was puzzled and amazed at how I could control ANY number without medications, without veggies, and by eating a nearly all meat diet. My kidney function was perfect too.

I got completely healthy without a single medication or insulin, all on my own. But I had to live for the disease and lost all quality of life.

If you can follow that lifestyle you will be amazed as how healthy you will become and how much energy you will have. Of course people are different, but it helps most people.

I take whatever dose of insulin I feel like. This is based on the completely random lifestyle I live. Hard to dose correctly, but 99% of the time I get it right.

Never be afraid of shots. They usually are painless and sometimes feel like a slight stick. You quickly learn what areas to stay away from.

Note: injecting into the leg/thigh can cause a delay in absorption. Mine delays to about 3-4 hours after the shot. Good for planning any fatty meal (like cheese coneys or chili).

jayabee52 2012-03-24 16:47:09 -0500 Report

I now DON'T follow any Dr's recommendations because they have not worked for me. I have been following a meal plan for now over a year and have had fantastic success with it. Not only am I keeping my Blood Glucose (BG) levels in or close to normal range without the use of antidiabetic meds of any kind, had an A1c of 5.5 (gonna need to have one done again) and lost 65 lbs last year.

I think if I showed my meal plan to a Dr they'd worry I was too radical in my discontinuing any grain products, but it has worked for me, marvelously!

Caroltoo 2012-03-24 14:37:32 -0500 Report

When first diagnosed my doctor told me: (1) you will never be able to make enough dietary changes or exercise enough to bring your BGs down to where they are safe, (2) you need to loose weight, and (3) I want you to learn how to give yourself insulin injections, because the specialist I consulted says you need to start with 4 shots/day.

A month before, I had a physical and was told I was in good health, though pre-Diabetic with a fasting blood glucose level in the mid-pre range.

My reactions: I did not believe #1, I knew #2 to be correct, but had not been successful over the preceding 5 years while I was, of course, becoming highly insulin resistant, and #3 I declined insulin, but accepted classes with a diabetic educator.

My first action was to go buy some books and learn all I could. I cleaned foods that I should not be eating out of my house and refrigerator. I donated to food banks. I began to walk 2 miles/day every single day. I studied more about how foods affect my cells and how nutrition is processed into my body and what problems are caused by high blood glucose (that one was a scary study).

The doctor's order for the diabetic educator was for her to teach me how to do injections. We did this in about 15 min of one session, the remainder of the time (3 sessions) I plied her with questions about how food affects my body and how I could manage my D better than I was when I saw her. I learned a lot from her. I also learned a lot on my own and had brought my BG from 400 to 150 before I saw her. I took Actos for a little while as I turned this around and I lost 60 pounds. Eventually, I began a little fluid retentive on Actos and decided it was time to stop it.

I now have a pattern of walking daily for exercise (3 miles now). I've been medication free for over 2 years and am doing fantastically and feeling better than I have any time in the last 15-20 years. My A1c is 5.7 and my BGs are 80-125. Other readings are appropriate also. My three point plan: exercise daily, eat healthily, and manage my stress levels.

I have sought information, made changes, listened to my body's feedback, made adjustments as I needed to. I am healthy. I have also changed doctors. The current one is knowledgeable as well as concerned, but I am responsible for my own care and choices. She is OK with this and recently commented that she wished I could teach some of her other patients to do so well. Have to acknowledge that felt very empowering to me.

None of my doctors have never given me a diet. The diagnosing doc's comment was: you lose weight when you eat less and exercise more. That was not a good thing to say to someone who had already followed his advice to eat less and was only eating 900 calories a day at that time which could have been part of the problem.

My diet changes have come as the result of study of outside sources. My first source was J. Whittaker's Reversing Diabetes. I don't agree with all he said, but I found much that was very practical and helpful. Since then I've adapted a high protein, high fiber, low carbohydrate version of a diet that might be considered an amalgamation of Mediterranean, Atkins, and Paleo. It works for me.

I've moved to all organic sources of food and avoid chemical pollutants because I know I am allergic to some and suspect I am to others. I cook from scratch — from low GI veggies, olive oil, lean meat, poultry, fish, seafood, cheese, and eat low GI fruit.

My current doctor and I are working together. My diagnosing doctor was concerned about me, but didn't know how to help me. Unfortunately, I didn't know he should know more, so I basically did it on my own with the help of the diabetic educator.

My husband is supportive of me. We have very different breakfasts because I don't want to deprive him of his favorite foods just because I won't eat them any more. We share a healthy lunch of my food. His dinner is different because he is wheelchair/bed boung and eats lightly. Mine is usually lunch left overs or something simple like a veggie and a piece of fish or chicken. He has offered to eat as I do, but I am ok giving him what works best for him.

Zolar1 2012-03-24 19:34:37 -0500 Report

Excellent job there!
I am fully self taught in my diabetes management and taking injections I learned from the military (sort of) as needed for emergency first aid during a battle. The rest of the learning I experimented on my own and any odd questions I simply asked some of my type 1 friends.

With insulin I can literally eat anything I want and as much as I want. However, I do exercise prudence. The more I bend that elbow the fatter I will get. So I only splurge about once or twice a month.

My Dr wanted me to take friggin pills at first. I said NO! I am not screwing with my liver. After I lost 75 pounds I had to go on insulin, but not for blood sugar control. But for weight control. I had my metabolism so high I could eat 2 entire large pepperoni pizzas by myself and NOT gain weight. Insulin and more carbs altered that.

For every 20% in body weight reduction, you double your metabolism and 1/2 your insulin requirements (typically).

Caroltoo 2012-03-24 20:48:46 -0500 Report

Interesting figures in that last paragraph. If true, it means I tripled my metabolic rate which could be because I have been able to maintain the weight loss. The rate has slowed down, but the pounds are still coming off.

SrTeenager 2012-03-24 20:55:25 -0500 Report

Hi Caliko! Congratulations on your success! Sounds like you have a good routine. If you'd like to talk about a natural way to help improve your health you may e-mail me so I can send you a link (not allowed on this site) to share. It's really helping so many! How's your energy? My e-mail is small. Have a good night!


Caroltoo 2012-03-24 21:05:38 -0500 Report

Hi SrTeenager,
This comment ended up under Zolar1 and Caroltoo's discussion. You might want to go the discussion page and edit your entry from me to Caiko so she will see it.

Zolar1 2012-03-24 23:30:03 -0500 Report

Not really my discussion. I just rendered my experience and opinion.

Every diabetic is different.

The 20% rule comes from body building sites and other nutritional sites.
Remember, 20% weight reduction now doesn't mean the same amount of 20% will render the same metabolic increase. Rule of diminishing returns applies.

If you lost 20 pounds you doubled the metabolic rate that you had. If you lost another 20% you didn't double the rate you started with in the beginning but the rate you increased to before the next 20%.

There does come a point that your doubling will cease.

The more adipose fat you have the greater the insulin resistance you will have as well and the higher the insulin needs will be.

As I regained weight my added insulin went from about 15 units per day to nearly 60 units per day. An increase of a factor of 4. For me this equates to an additional 1 unit of insulin need per 2 pounds of body weight (AKA FAT) increase.
Interestingly enough that ratio seems to be the exact amount of weight increase divided by the water loss I experience each night.

Makes you wonder if there is a relationship between the two.

I used to keep extremely high amounts of data in the beginning of this disease so I could learn what foods do to my.

Some people can eat one kind of food and not experience high spikes. But the next person eat the exact same food and their blood sugars are sent into the stratosphere.

No diet plan will work for everyone. All of them have to be adjusted constantly.

For me as long as I don't stay in the 200's for extended periods my A1C's will be in the normal range.

Biggest key is to drink lots of water with each meal. It dilutes the carbs and slows the spikes. I used to drink nearly 2 gallons of water a day. Got tired of the bathroom trips…

Caroltoo 2012-03-24 23:58:05 -0500 Report

Thanks for all the information! I did loose 60 pounds in a fairly short period of time, then stabilized for a while, and now and loosing again but more slowly than the first big drop. It is interesting to see how it all correlates. I've never used insulin, so I don't have that experience (and am glad I don't).

Zolar1 2012-03-25 00:48:59 -0500 Report

Naw, don't let shots scare you. In fact is is far better to use insulin now while you have the ability to exercise and save the pills for your old age when control is difficult or nearly impossible. Any pills will affect your liver.
Cholesterol lowering meds can easily cause gallstones, and rapid weight loss can too.

Shots can give you very precise control over diet and blood sugars.

When experiencing rapid weight loss be sure to tell your doctor and take flax oil capsules and psyllium capsules to help expel cholesterol.

Women have a 90% greater chance of getting gallstones than men.

Caroltoo 2012-03-25 01:09:12 -0500 Report

Thanks, but I have precise control over my BGs (A1c of 5.7, BG range of 80-120 on any day) and HAVEN'T use ANY medications for the last 3 years.

Insulin, when I was diagnosed, was something you started but didn't stop. I was producing insulin; my problem was I had become resistant and wasn't using it well. No shot phobia here! I just don't want to use any meds. I am very active and have greatly reduced my insulin resistance.

Your comment about gallstones is interesting to me because I have recently had them. I've read that can be caused by gluten intolerance which I also have. What do you know about gallstones and diabetes? Psyllum to reduce cholesterol is a good thought since I can't eat oatmeal and many other grains. I mostly use quinoa, when I use any.

eikcaj 2012-03-24 13:55:37 -0500 Report

was diagnosed several years ago, my dr. and i always discuss my food plan. was on insulin but because i paid attention read a lot of info, and decided to follow a high fiber diet , but in those days i must admit to weighing and measuring everything, after about 2 and 1/2 years i am no longer on insulin. i am now on the lowest dose of metformon once a day at dinner. i eat well, love my veggies , still doing high fiber and do indulge in a glass of wine and chocolaate but few "desserts". I am not saying NO desserts. i did loose over 30 pounds while on insulin but cannot seem to do it now, my only complaint…

ray007p 2012-03-24 07:40:51 -0500 Report

two out of three hah, well I have had 7 different doctors since I became a type two and not a one of them ever gave me a recomended diet.

Edie 2011-04-25 07:36:49 -0500 Report

When I was first told I was a Diabetic I was on the 1500 Cal. diabetic diet, that was back in 74 if I remember right. then in 03 I had major surgery and they started me on shots that was when I said the ya and ate what I wanted when and where I wanted. I gaine alot of weight after that and then in 2010 I decided I was going to stop taking the Insulin and start fighting back. I have gone back on the Calorie Diet as it is easier for me to follow than the Carb Diet. I have lost 20.2 pounds since Dec. and have no insulin shots since Dec.3,2010 if I get the weight down to where I want it by July 31,2011 but sugars not under control I will go back on one insulin and see how that does if not bringing down my numbers any better.
I am giving it my best shot and have posted my pictures of family and self that will keep me fighting down the numbers and weight. One sister is 552 pounds one is almost 400 then I also put up my pic when I was 150 that is what I am aiming at again. I have pictures of me at 255 one at 235 and the 150 pound one on the front of the Freezer in the Kitchen which I walk by several times a day and it helps to remind me not to eat except at meal times now with 3 snacks a day one mid morning, mid afternoon and bedtime. Those Calories are added with the Breakfast , Lunch and dinner so as not to go over total Calories for the Day.

Planning Breakfast and mid morning snack at the same time helps me to plan better same way with Lunch and mid afternoon and Dinner and Bedtime I just keep out what I am eating and drinking for snacks set aside on one shelf in the frig and on the counter with the time for Snacks paper towel laid over them to know what to grab out of the frig and off of the counter with out looking at other stuff instead. It helps alot try it for yourselves.

gbc43 2011-04-15 16:37:20 -0500 Report

Following the rules is one thing, liking the food offered or put up is another but being able to afford it is the hard part. Cost make the food you can pick.
As for eating out , read the giude to eating out .

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-03-23 17:39:29 -0500 Report

I think some people are misinformed or just think the medicine will fix the disease like everything else. Still others just don't want to change. My grandmother-in-law is the type to think the medicine will fix it, she continues to eat candy bars with almost every meal and she's on so many pills and so much insulin now I don't understand how she affords it, the non-candy she does eat is mostly carbs. I don't know if her doctor doesn't tell her to change or if she just doesn't care.

Her son is a mix of "I don't want to change" and "The medicine will fix it." He has been my biggest challenge because he moved in with us just before I was diagnosed and when I was trying to get over my sugar addiction he thought it was hilarious to buy candy and give it to me. I never actually ate any but it made it hard those first couple of weeks. He is the types that will say "I'm diabetic I can't have sugar 5 seconds after eating half a pack of bite sized candy bars.

But I also think there are those people who think they can't afford to eat healthy. I almost became one of these people but I have proved I can afford this and make it delicious to boot. I use coupons for everything I buy that's not meat or produce which helps me to afford better cuts of meat. and more fresh or frozen veggies. My freezer is loaded at the beginning of the month with meat and veggies I can snack on and the fridge is now loaded with "safe snacks". I do slip sometimes but generally it's just because I'm lazy or tired or in the case of tonight I'm sick and worn out and didn't have the energy to cook real meat so I made some breaded, processed chicken patties. not my best choice by far but probably better than falling asleep while cooking real chicken in the oven and burning the house down.

My family is great and even tonight they said, "Should you really be eating that?" I love them to pieces and thank them so much for supporting me. To be honest I think they like this diet better because they have been loving the low carb dishes I've been making.

bearladylee 2012-03-25 05:23:57 -0500 Report

I agree with you that healthy food is more expensive. My problem is I work and I too am tired. Plus I have not taken a course yet. I know some of the recommend foods. I eat fish once a week. I eat sweet potatoes instead of white potatoes. I don't drink soda anymore, mostly just water. I am not losing weight I am maitaining. my bg runs between 120-140. It use to be 110-120, but I work now and don't walk everyday, only on my days off. I am just to tired when I work. My b12 is very low I have to have shots once a month. To tell the truth I don't even know is 120-140 BG bad??????? Or is it ok?????? I am here because I need advice and motivation.

jayabee52 2012-03-25 12:16:20 -0500 Report

Howdy Lee, haven't seen Bunnycakes around, or posting for quite some time, so thought I'd jump in here.

Good food IS expensive, to be sure, but ANY food is expensive now a days. But good quality food one cooks for themselves (not the prefab stuff) gives you more "bang for the buck" IMO than the prefab, conveince stuff. (some have called it "food-like substances")

RE: your 120 - 140 Blood glucose (BG) readings, it is not ideal, (which would be about 80 - 110) , but is certainly better than BG readings in the 200s



bearladylee 2012-03-26 05:56:31 -0500 Report

Thank you James, I am going to try your diet, Not sure if I will last at it but will try. I think if I was not working and not so tired all the time I would eat better because I would cook more than throwing stuff together when I get home from work, Like last night it was hot dogs and pork and beans and this morning my Bg was 144.

Young1s 2012-03-26 08:34:51 -0500 Report

If you have time during the weekend, try cooking and refrigerating/freezing several small meals. That way all you're concerned about when you get home is whether to heat it on the stove or in the microwave. And don't forget, a salad with some type of protein on top can be just as filling, without the high carbs of canned pork n beans.

Young1s 2012-03-26 15:09:00 -0500 Report

I know right? I was surprised by this when I first read it on the label myself. It's a bit scary to think about the heaping bowls of that I used to eat on a regular basis. Way more than 1/2 a cup. But I agree it must be the sauce.

larry A
larry A 2011-03-23 16:58:23 -0500 Report

i think the reason why 2 out of 3 don't is that their loved ones don't understand the need for the diet. as well as the person themselves. I know my son in law for a long time refused to accept he was a diabetic and therefore did not follow the diet. I to had some issues at first with my family saying it would become to exspensive to follow this diet. I thinkl if everyone would sit down and just talk about it realistically and really open up to their true feelings and emotions about the subject of being diabetic and what it means to all involved we would probably see more people following their Dr. perscribed diets.

Hopieland 2011-03-23 16:06:17 -0500 Report

John! I'm so glad you asked. Diagnosed by "accident" when I had a physical for a class B driver's license, I've struggled consistently against eating the right kinds of FOOD. Finicky from early on, and a carb junkie all my life… well it cost me dearly. Type 2 isn't much better than type 1 anyway I look at it. My big waaaa is carbs. I love starch: pasta, potatoes, snacks, and homemade chocolate chip cookies are my favorite weakness. Living alone I'm not big on cooking a real meal just for myself. My thot is, I've never learned to love me enough to actually invest in my own health. Queen of the couch in the evenings, and after working half of three days a week housecleaning, then four days a week in an office, when I get home… what's for dinner isn't the question. It's what can I fix FAST. Usually ends up being some kind of red meat with noodles, rice (not often anymore) or potato for a side. Notice veggies are missing. I'll eat almost anything someone else cooks, but not so hot on my own. VERY limited food budget prevents me from hiring someone to cook for me. Stuck. That's where I am. Stuck. However… I'm finally beginning to actually WANT to change my ways. Got any suggestions for a long time lazy cook?

SrTeenager 2012-03-24 21:17:47 -0500 Report

Hi Hopieland! Yes! I have some suggestions. I would like to help you with your belief and love of your beautiful self first and secondly inform you on how you can have some good meals just for you daily! You don't have to grab what is fast if you are motivated! Not a lot of work either.. I love that you are realizing you must change your ways! What do you want to change? I am a Wellness Coach and love to help people improve their health and change their lives. I joined this network yesterday to meet people and offer my support. Who knows, I may help you! I have been doing just natural nutrition which has a great smoothie and lots of energy boosts for you. So perhaps you may want to learn more from me. Talk soon!

SrTeenager aka Coach Rainey

Zolar1 2012-03-24 19:37:54 -0500 Report

You do NOT need veggies to be healthy nor to control blood sugars.
An all meant (with 6g of carbs or less per meal) is very healthy for you. Just keep an eye on the fat (George Foreman) and take a multivitamin daily.

Remember, ALL plant material has carbs in it.

SrTeenager 2012-03-24 21:18:25 -0500 Report

Hi Hopieland! Yes! I have some suggestions. I would like to help you with your belief and love of your beautiful self first and secondly inform you on how you can have some good meals just for you daily! You don't have to grab what is fast if you are motivated! Not a lot of work either.. I love that you are realizing you must change your ways! What do you want to change? I am a Wellness Coach and love to help people improve their health and change their lives. I joined this network yesterday to meet people and offer my support. Who knows, I may help you! I have been doing just natural nutrition which has a great smoothie and lots of energy boosts for you. So perhaps you may want to learn more from me. Talk soon!

SrTeenager aka Coach Rainey

eikcaj 2012-03-24 14:03:29 -0500 Report

cook a lot when you have the time to spare or feel like it. then freeze some and keep a few days worth in frig, freeze in 1 portion bags…

Edie 2010-12-29 15:08:40 -0600 Report

Hi John I have been finding out it is not what we eat but how much of it we eat that is causing us the biggest problems. This past week I was in Florida with my Oldest Daughter and her kids at Disney World and as we had 2 meals and a snack on our Meal plan each day to eat I found eatting Breakfast and only half of my lunch taking the rest back to the room with me for Supper I have lost some more Weight am now down to 246.8 pounds not doing to bad now that I know this is how It works I am eatting the same way at home. Bill laughed at me last night as I fixed Supper and kept my portion for lunch and Supper to night. I had Taco Salad for lunch and supper last night.
With as sick as I am not getting as much exercise as I got last week but less meals too. As soon as I am not throwing up all of the time getting rid of phlem then I will start walking out side again. Working up to 2 miles at a time. Can't tell you how far I walked in a day down there but my legs and back hurt at the end of each day took almost 4 days for the pain to stop.

BandonBob 2010-11-19 10:59:44 -0600 Report

When I was first diagnosed 20 years ago my doctor just told me to lose 15 pounds with no instructions at all. I looked at what could be done and as I looked I decided it would be to hard for me to lose anything eating the recommended amount of carbs. I cut out fats and sugar and lost 80 pounds and had my A1c drop from the 14.3 at diagnosis to 6.3 in six months. I have stayed with the diet that worked for me and I have never regained the weight or had my A1c get as high as 6.3 since.I know that my diet will not work for everyone but it does work for me. The only other concession I make is that I control portion size very carefully.

Eversinging1 2010-11-19 10:40:51 -0600 Report

the only thing my doc's diabetic nurse told me was to limit my carbs…15 g for snacks and 30-60 for meals. No instructions, no nutrition information..just limit carbs. Well if carbs are bad then Atkins must be good…can't stick to it. Iactually gained weight on it. So I check labels and just want to cry everytime I go to the store. EVERYTHING has too many carbs. Carrots and potatos are too starchy. Being raised in Texas/Oklahoma the food we eat down here is not compatible with diabetes. Have no idea how to eat properly. Needless to say, my BS is all over the place. And here come the holidays! lol

eikcaj 2012-03-24 14:06:52 -0500 Report

think high fiber, we Texans like BBQ but we also love beans and sweet potatoes…

Zolar1 2012-03-24 19:39:02 -0500 Report

Ahhh… Great foods those are, healthy too.

Note: drink loads of water with that meal to slow spikes…

CaliKo 2010-11-19 10:57:23 -0600 Report

Carbs aren't bad. They are the body's first choice for energy. However, diabetics don't process the carbs easily, so you have to limit them to amounts your body can handle, or go on meds if your body can't process them at all. I eat 30 grams of carbs or less at each of 3 meals, and about 15 grams at each of 3 snacks. That's about 135 grams a day. And, this is important, choose good carbs. Whole grain breads, like Nature's Own (each slice is about 8 g carbs), brown rice, vegetables (you get 3 servings of non-starchy vegetables for about 15 grams carbs), fruits in moderation. Order a Calorie King booklet and start looking up what you are eating. It will help. Amazon has them:
Take advantage of some of those produce stands and farmer's markets. It's an advantage to have access to country food if you choose wisely.
Be sure and include about 3 ounces of protein with 2 meals and a bit of good fats, it will help you be less hungry.
Good luck!

CaliKo 2010-10-12 14:11:56 -0500 Report

I'm one of the ones that follows my meal plan fairly closely. I only charted calories-carbs-fats-proteins the first three months, but that was long enough for me to get a good feel for how much of what I can eat. I still look up foods in my Calorie King booklet when I forget or eat something different. I think part of the reason its working is that my carbs, up to 150 g daily, consist of 4-5 servings whole grains, 3-4 servings in fruits and vegetables and 1-2 servings dairy. Almost never any cookies, cakes or other sweets, white sugar, alcohol sugar or artificial sweeteners. I will drink a glass of wine, maybe twice a week. I'm not on any meds for diabetes, and just got taken off my statin (this is a 3-month trial) and my A1c just came back a 5.7, so I'm happy. I don't know how long I'll be able to eat this many carbs, but I'm okay for now. I exercise daily, varies between 45 minutes and 2 hours.

AddassaMari 2010-08-14 20:11:27 -0500 Report

Thanks for bringing that to our attention. I can understand why we tend not to follow recommended diet. We virtually have to give up all the "good stuff" and start eating the "good for you stuff." Frankly, all the diabetics I know in person are busy people. We are in constant motion, we live busy lives which is not always condusive to a healthy meal plan. More often than not my personal friends eat only one meal at home or in a sit down restaurant. Most meals, usually breakfast, lunch and snacks are grab n' go.

Personally, I found it fairly easy to follow the recommended diet. But then I have some advantages, I am a trained chef, so balancing a plate is easy and I have always chosen the healtiest meals I can when eating on the go or out. Of course I sacrifice much to keep eating french fries.

To answer you question. I have learned how to manipulate my diet to include the so-called forbidden foods. Thanks to the training I received from the dietitican, I simply choose different carbohydrates to meet my maximum per meal grams. However, I have eliminated those things, table sugar in particular, that spike my B/S. I discovered that if I exercise, I can eat virtually anything.

I don't adhere strckly to the "diet" but practice good protion control.

I have always prepared different meals for me and my kids. There are three of us and sometimes I actually will prepare three completely different meals. So, if I splurge or decide to chuck the recommendation out the window, I can't balme it on my kids.

Personally, I think I do as well as I do becasue food is something I know and because I had good taining as part of my ungoing treatment.

Sinraeyan 2010-04-29 10:54:58 -0500 Report

I am actually considered one of diabetics that does not follow a diet… or at least I was up until a few days ago. I had been diagnosed in 2008 and told I was very close to borderline. I started keeping track of what I was eating and so the next time the doctor told me that my sugars were that of a non-diabetic. It was after that that I stopped watching my food as much. I then had to go through surgery and that did not help me. I started eating because I felt it was a reward for going through so much. Then I lost my health insurance and could not even take my medicine anymore.

It was a few days ago that I had asked my boyfriend's aunt to test my blood sugar, I was told by the doctor that I did not need a meter, and it was 492. I did not go to the hospital we decided that we would wait till morning and see what it was then. It was 234 the next morning. The day after that it was 130 in the morning and 88 at night. I have now started eating healthier and drinking only water.

Edie 2010-04-30 18:51:04 -0500 Report

Join us in Diet and Exercise we would really like to hear from you on there too. My sugar numbers had been going all over the board and now is starting to do better and I am even losing some weight now too.
Keep up the good work of watching your diet and the numbers will stay down for you I hope.

Dev 2010-04-04 18:30:53 -0500 Report

For my husband they have given the rule of 30:60. keep the intake below 30 carbs for snacks and 60 for meals. It was difficult in the beggining as our diet (Indian) we realised is carb heavy. On top of that he is vegetarian. After coming to the US we had to adjust our food habits and they became much more carb heavy for lack of time and easy to cook options. Now we have to readjust and come up with other meals that have smaller portions of rice and wheat and larger portions of Daal and legumes (beans etc). All the legumes also have carbs but they are the only source of protin for him. With all this juggling around he many times would not feel full or satiated.

The dietician after telling her that he was vegetarian did not know how to help him. So we found the carb values of all foods and tried to figure out a good balanced diet for him that fits our lifestyle as well.

But we still have problems. If we decide to be in the library (we are doctoral students) for the whole day we have to carry snacks and two meals. It is very difficult to find food for him that is vegetarian and low carb around the campus. He also feels like having tea and coffee and that adds to the sugar. *sigh*

If he is frustrated with his research he munches on anything that he finds in the kitchen. Generally, resins, apricots and such stuff that we brought to bring life in his salads.

My mother suggested some flower remedies. One of it 'Cherry Plum' is good for managing uncontrolled desires or emotions. We are going to try that to reduce his random stress eating.

Zolar1 2012-03-24 19:42:14 -0500 Report

Here is the preferred ratio:


For every 1g of carbs, eat 2g of fat and 3g of protein.

You MUST eat fat to slow carb absorption.

Note: all excess body fat is because you eat more calories than you burn. They usually, if not nearly always come from excess carbohydrates, NOT FAT.

Fat gives you long term energy, protein gives you energy between meals, and carbs are if you plan on heavy exercise.

Edie 2010-04-06 17:21:14 -0500 Report

Please check out different sites for Meals. I found this site for you: *
Low-Carbohydrate Meal Plans
Get a free calorie counter, diet plans, exercise routines and more.

The Sparks People site is a good one I am on there too sometimes.
Check them out it may be what you are looking for.

Blue Angel
Blue Angel 2010-02-17 10:41:03 -0600 Report

Hi again, I don't have a diet I have to follow. But lately I have been eating more ,my blood sugar has been up. I been feeling better than ever and full of energy. My BS is always on the low side. Lately it's been 140's. Only thing is I don't what to gain any more weight. My weight stays the same. I'm trying to lose weight. So we will see how long I keep BS high.

Edie 2010-02-19 23:28:35 -0600 Report

140's I wish. Mine has been higher than that for a long time. If mine was in that range I'd be happy. Try walking after meals for at least 30 mins that way you walk it off and maybe lose some weight along the way. We can only hope, Right!!!
I have been trying to lose weight now for just over 10 years and it seems to go down 5-10 pounds just to go up 10-15 pounds later. During the winter I put on the Weight and then in Spring through the Fall I lose it some not enough to keep it off.I will keep you in my prayers that you meet your Weight Goal this year and would you please keep me in yours.

Blue Angel
Blue Angel 2010-02-22 12:57:04 -0600 Report

I will do that. I will keep you in my prays. I hear you about the weight. I don't seem to be gaining but I'm not losing either. My sister is going to the gym and just got me a membership. I had to promise I will go on the days I can with her. I have a bad back this might help a little. If it's like therapy.I can do it with some help. Wish me luck

Edie 2010-02-23 12:09:15 -0600 Report

Take 2 tylenal before you go and that should help you also. I know it does me on those days when I need alittle help with the pain too. I hate to use my Darvocet so I only use it when I need help to walk.

holisticdebra 2010-02-23 15:33:03 -0600 Report

check the foods u eat for any HFCS as this will raise ur blood sugars. (high fructose corn syrup)

Zolar1 2012-03-24 19:44:19 -0500 Report

HFCS has been linked to getting T2 and pancreatic cancer as of January 2010.

It is also tantamount to throwing gasoline (petrol) on a fire blood sugar wise.

Plain sugar is like throwing alcohol on a fire.

Slow acting carbs is like putting oil on it - slow to start and burns at a set rate.

Edie 2010-02-24 06:25:59 -0600 Report

Thank you I will check them out from now on.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2010-02-24 15:58:35 -0600 Report

Thru these sites I have also learned to check candy for sugar alcohol added—-didnt give it a second thought before Turtle brought it up awhile back. Pat R

miss.tee 2010-02-13 20:23:02 -0600 Report

I have always been over wight, I do what the doctor says.Finding out that the people you really love has type 2 less then 3 months a part all we (mom and my sister) did was eat at own tears(vegs, and furit) to much of that. Not enough exsurice Is what did me in. The doctors says go across the hall talk to the dietation, I fell off the wagon. This last year. I'm doing much better now. We got it together. we have the same diet. And, nothing but happy tears At first I was 245lb. now I'm 185.

Edie 2010-02-13 21:02:10 -0600 Report

Share your Diet with us on Exercise/Diet Discussion Feb. 2010 please Maybe it will work that good for some of us others as well.
Thank you in advance;

greycat 2010-02-13 16:12:15 -0600 Report

First of all, alot of us women are emotional eaters/snackers And with good reason being that men completely fail us because they fail at telling us what we want to hear ,I miss you, I love you,let's make-out, I adore you.I'm speaking for myself, but I know every single woman is going through this same thing, I'm not alone in this.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-03-24 21:03:39 -0500 Report

You know, there are great guys out there, you just need to have good communication skills and not be needy all the time. Men do well when they know what we like and we have good self esteem. My husband does all of the above and I know he means it. You fail yourself if you don't make the needed changes in order to have a good man in you life:)

Zolar1 2012-03-24 19:48:31 -0500 Report

Makes one wonder why women have the wrong priorities in life.
Emotions should never rule anything. Logic should. Emotions = costly mistakes and misery (ask any terrorist).

If you stop putting your life in the hands of emotions and face reality you just might not be so depressed.

I was divorced for over 7 years, never dated till the end of that time. Lonely? You bet. Letting those feelings get in the way of survival? NO WAY.
I control my mind and body, not emotions.

Edie 2010-02-13 19:58:10 -0600 Report

You are very right about that. When Bill doesn't get his own way in things he just shuts me out and at the same time my feelings about what he has said or did. But that is life and so we go on. I guess I 'm getting to old to play the guys games in life any more as I don't feel like I am a part of a Couple any longer, you know the 50-50 kind.

Zolar1 2012-03-24 19:52:56 -0500 Report

Ahh, that is where you are having problems. The relationship should NEVER be 50-50.

If you are a true Christian then you should know your place (women) and your value. Too bad more and more women are becoming 'Americanized'.

Most 3rd world countries that were rarely or never exposed to Americans or similar never ever have the complaints/problems that American women (or similar) have.

No where in the Bible does it say that a woman's value in anything should be 50-50. In fact, it says the exact opposite.

You want what you aren't entitled to and that is why you are having problems.

red flower lady
red flower lady 2012-03-24 20:50:00 -0500 Report

First off all, this explains part of the reason your marriage didn't last! Second, how do you know they don't have complaints, they are not allowed to voice them. And on that last line, who decides what we are entitled to men, I think not. If woman are becoming Americanized, then good for them.

Hope you have a good day:)

jayabee52 2012-03-24 20:05:51 -0500 Report

According to MY christian beliefs, the correct value is not 50/50 instead it is 100%/100%

The gals should love her husband 100% and the guy love his spouse 100% In fact Apostle Paul wrote in Ephesians 5 that the man should be willing to give up himself for his wife, and Paul used the illustration of Christ giving up His life for the church (His bride). We guys like to point to the submission passages in Eph 5, but too often we don't point out the rest of the message that we are to give up ourselves as Christ did for the Church (us who believe).

Caroltoo 2012-03-24 20:08:45 -0500 Report

Thank you, James, I was biting my tongue while looking that one up. Glad you knew where to find it quickly!

jayabee52 2012-03-24 20:13:26 -0500 Report

actually I pulled it out of my head because in the denomination of which I am a member it has been a topic of intense debate for a number of years.

Caroltoo 2012-03-24 20:19:35 -0500 Report

I thought that might be the case because your response was so quick. It's been the topic of discussion in mine also, but not for about the last 5 years or so, so I would have to look it up.

Anne56 2010-02-14 07:48:57 -0600 Report

Maybe you might say, "some men"…
I say this because we all tend to lump
folks together like "men" or "women",
meaning All Men and All Women.
Its so unfair to the wonderful, caring,
evolved members of each sex. This
simple qualification (some, many, etc.)
makes statements much more factual
and much less "gender beating".
Just a thought…

Edie 2010-02-16 12:32:21 -0600 Report

Your right on both counts. There are good in both and bad in both men and women. I will try harder not to use those terms to mention either one.