Can Type 2 turn into Type 1

SHELBY
By SHELBY Latest Reply 2009-08-02 14:34:19 -0500
Started 2009-07-14 16:01:40 -0500

Both my grandmothers had Type 1 and my aunt and uncle both have type 1 am I predisposed for type 1


34 replies

Honeydesire2006
Honeydesire2006 2009-07-31 20:36:00 -0500 Report

I think all of us on here that have type 1 or type 2 should really take care of ourselves because now there is a new type and thats type 3 which is a combination of both type 1 and type 2 togther. It is deadly. When you get type 3 you are heading towards death because their is no way to control it or a cure for it. With type 2 and type 1 if you follow everything and especially lose the weight you can control your sugar levels alot.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2009-08-01 06:32:40 -0500 Report

Type 3 as I understand it is type 1 with insulin resistance. Th treatment is the same as for a type 1 but because of the insulin resistance drugs to reduce that or extra insulin are needed. It is no more a death sentence than any other type of diabetes, it all depends on how you manage it.

BLC
BLC 2009-08-01 23:22:35 -0500 Report

I have never heard of this. Very interesting and also extremely scary

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-08-02 14:34:19 -0500 Report

Well, I suppose if we all just do the best we can with what we do know, that we should be able to avert the worst! I am motivated by this threat, to try even harder, but not to become a slave to this testy disease! At least, I am NOT ALONE!! That helps me so much!! PR

PAT L
PAT L 2009-07-15 11:47:23 -0500 Report

AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE I HAVE HAD 2 MAJOR OPERATIONS. AN EACH TIME FOR 2 DAYS THEY HAD TO GIVE ME LARGE AMOUNTS OF INSULIN. SO THAT KIND OF TELLS ME THAT THEY GAVE ME SOMETHING THAT STARTED ME TO BEING A TYPE 2. IT TOOK A YEAR OR SO, BUT THATS HOW I CAME TO HAVE DIABETES. BEFORE THAT I WAS IN GOOD SHAPE…

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-15 12:26:32 -0500 Report

Were you pre-diabetic before your surgeries? I was, and after so many health issues evolved, after my 2nd knee transplant, it slipped up and over the borderline, and is not TOO high, but is being persistent for 3 years, and I am 77 yrs, and I thought sure that I was going to escape the REAL STUFF! Not, so do you suppose that as we age, and endure STUFF, surgeries etc. it tips the scales? Just a thought—-PR

SHELBY
SHELBY 2009-07-15 14:24:17 -0500 Report

No I have not had surgery but I was hipo for 20 yrs they said my pancrecis is just not working right I am having a biopsy to make sure it is not cancer. Because they do not know why it is doing this.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-15 14:39:37 -0500 Report

Shelby, I am so sorry! The not knowing anything really can get to you!! Best of Luck!!! PR

Oh, the surgery questions were meant for Pat L—-sorry about the confusion—-PR

SHELBY
SHELBY 2009-07-14 23:33:56 -0500 Report

Thank you all for healping I just can not believe this is happening I work dance every day and watch my grandson on the weekends I am very healthy up until now I am still having test one at a time because I do not have insurance and they are very expensive. I have spent over 30,000 in the last three weeks. Between the hospital stay and the dr office. I think they have it under control I am on three different meds and they say that I still might not be able to avoid injections. I have had to quit teaching my dance class at night until my cardiac enzimes come down

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-14 23:11:20 -0500 Report

I just read an article on this site, that says some think "inflamatory disease" may also be a contributing factor in diabetis. Something goes wrong with the immune system and can affect the joints or organs, something I have had happen. My bone marrow failed, thought that I had leukemia, but they decided after doing a bone marrow test, that it was too many antibiotics for diverticulitis, along with a viral infection that dropped my white count down to 1,000, a fact that they told me was incompatable with life, but I am still here. Our bodies are so complicated that stress can affect about anything in our system. We are all still learning! The article is on line if you would like to read it as the Doctors sure put it better than I have. Just thought that this might help others. Pat Roth

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-14 23:15:22 -0500 Report

Oh, the Drs told me that if it occurred again, I would die. That bothered me for a long time, but that was years ago, and since I have vented and feel NICER inside, NOT so ANGRY, my immune system seems to be in great shape as I have not had a cold etc in 4 years, while just before this time, I had pneumonia 7 times in 2 years, and I had never had pneumonia before. So I try to avoid too much stress for lots of reasons. I am a believer. Best Wishes! PR

kdroberts
kdroberts 2009-07-14 20:50:44 -0500 Report

Type 2 cannot turn into type 1, no way, no how. Type 1 can't turn to type 2. They are completely different diseases. The only way a type 2 would change to a type 1 diagnosis is being incorrectly diagnosed to start with. It is possible to have the insulin resistance that some type 2's have and also be type 1 though. Taking insulin doesn't mean you are type 1.

centrider
centrider 2009-07-14 21:55:24 -0500 Report

If one is initially diagnosed with T2, and is treated so for a period of time, and then the adrenals, shut down, why I cannot say, in that case T2 has become T1. Two different diseases have nothing to do with it.

If you are a T2, take care of yourself as articulated by others, you probably can go your whole life as a T2.

I know someone who was diagnosed as a T2, treated as such for about 6 months when that changed. Adrenals (i.e., islets of Langerhans) shut down and Presto, T1. I think she was in her 40's when it all happened.

And believe me, she was obsessive about keeping herself healthy.

I can see one problem in posting: People misread or misunderstand what one writes.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-14 22:51:28 -0500 Report

Amen!! I am still trying to figure out type 1 and type 2, what determines the diagnosis. I had assumed that Type 1 was if you were young, and Type 2 was when you aged, were probably overweight—I really don't know. Can someone enlighten me? thank you! Pat Roth

kdroberts
kdroberts 2009-07-15 07:37:19 -0500 Report

Type 1 is an autoimmune disease and has specific antibodies that can be tested for. Type 2's do not have these antibodies present, even if they produce no insulin like a type 1. If a type 2's pancreas shuts down after a period of time and they do not have the autoimmune attack component, they do not have type 1, they are just a type 2 who's pancreas has stopped working. If they DO have the autoimmune markers then they were misdiagnosed in the first place and were never actually a type 2, this is quite common.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-15 10:55:52 -0500 Report

Thank you so much for that explanation! I didn't realize that diabetis was an autoimmune disease, but after thinking it through, it does make sense—
My husband was very ill in 1987, they never could decide on a diagnosis, but found that only Prednisone could help him, restore his kidney function, heart etc. They thought he endured a spray from a plane that was used to kill vegetation in the no-till program, and he has never recovered. We both had bad cases of pneu., one time several years ago—- after cleaning the wet plaster on a bathroom of a rental, his temp was 105 while mine only went to 103—he was unresponsive—-I managed to drag around, so WEAK and dehydrated, to call 911. They sent him on to Wichita by ambulance, test showed that his pancreas had quit working, but he never developed diabetis. I find that interesting, if strange. But as long as he takes his Prednisone, he can still function, without—simply, he cannot move,kidneys don't act much, then with brown urine— talk—-whatever is so scary at times. I think if he had a definite diagnoses we would both feel better.

Thanks for the explanation, I am gradually finding my way—-Pat Roth

centrider
centrider 2009-07-15 17:24:27 -0500 Report

I can see that. She was in what she termed, "a honeymoon" period in which for those 6 mos., she was a T2.

I'm not sure, but finally she did test out as T1.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2009-07-15 18:26:50 -0500 Report

"She was in what she termed, "a honeymoon" period in which for those 6 mos., she was a T2"

That's not type 2, it's a honeymooning type 1. She may be TREATED like a type 2 but should not have been diagnosed as one.

PAT L
PAT L 2009-07-14 17:19:52 -0500 Report

I STARTED MY TYPE 2 AFTER I HAD 2 MAJOR OPERATIONS IN 3 YEARS. AN WAS HEADED FOR A TYPE 1 UNTILL I TOOK CONTROL OF WHAT HOW AN WHEN I ATE OR DRANK. I TAKE INSULIN BUT ONLY IN SMALL AMOUNTS NOW, AN A YEAR AGO I WAS TAKING ALMOST 3 TIME WHAT I TAKE TODAY.. SO IF YOU TAKE CONTROL AN DO WHAT IS REQUIRED YOU WILL STAY A 2 BUT LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE THEY JUST GO ON AS BEFORE AN BECOME 1`S BEFORE THEY WAKE UP AN ITS TOO LATE. SO WATCH, READ, AN LEARN AN YOU WILL GET IT UNDERCONTROL…

SHELBY
SHELBY 2009-07-14 17:23:45 -0500 Report

Thanks

PAT L
PAT L 2009-07-14 17:39:50 -0500 Report

YOUR WELCOME AN WILL HELP WHEN I CAN… FOR I AM ONLY 68 NOW BUT PLAN ON A LOT MORE…

2009-07-14 19:12:50 -0500 Report

hi shelby i'm so not an expert it's not even funny, but from what i have read and been told by my team of drs. lately is that type 2s don't "turn" into t1s. t2s may eventually have to use insulin on a daily basis, but it's like they are 2 different diseases. there seems to be ALOT of bad and misinformation on this site lately by some members, and wanted to clear that up before you got any more confused. take what you read on the internet with a very large grain of salt. there is a lot more to this horrible disease than venting, drinking tomato juice and home remedies. listen to you dr. for a little more sane, solid advice. then take it from there. good luck.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-14 22:48:00 -0500 Report

One can read what they want in anyone's opinions, that does not make them not helpful as there are many sides to any disease and EMOTIONAL ILLNESS, venting and relaxing so your body can better fight diabetis or any other ailment, has long been proven! As for the home remedies, they were stated only to show that there are lots of remedies that others can have opinions on, that are NOT related to diabetis, but were used as an example of everyone's opinions—not to be taken seriously, But you can if you want! Personally< I am NOT geared that way, thank Heavens. And my Dear, live a few more years and you may find the wisdom in ALL of the posts on this site! No one needs any more ridicule, especially here! Respect, even if you don't get it, is appreciated! And take a swig of tomato juice, it might help you to relax. Thank You! Pat Roth

2009-07-14 23:13:20 -0500 Report

yes pat one is entitled to an opinion, and i was simply stating mine. and my "dear", age has nothing to do with ignorance. for example if you are going to have a chronic disease such as "diabetis" you may want to learn to spell it. especially if you plan to hijack a board and monopolize the conversation with inane fluff about bg readings in the 100's. i'm sorry you are having trouble with your bg levels. really i am. but there are people out there who are truly sick and may take the folk remedies the wrong way. personally when i was released from hospital 3 months ago with dka, my level was 1300. so you can see why i feel it's NOT a trivial matter, there are people seeking sound advice not a bullshit, blow-off steam session. maybe you should follow your own advice and go have a drink of prune juice. i've heard tell that if you're full of crap, it clears you right up.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-14 23:21:38 -0500 Report

Wow, I did NOT say that diabetis was a trivial disease! I did NOT say that I was worse off than you or anyone else, and if you think I am taking over, you don't know the half of it, you write then, I was just trying to find my own way, sorry if I got into your way. I do not criticize others for misspelling, so cool it kid! You are the first one on this site that has been so rude, so I suggest you go to bed and get a good night's sleep, I think that you need one! If you think that I am full of crap, I am, and I do love prunes as they do help! PR

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-14 23:37:59 -0500 Report

Color me gone! I DO NOT NEED THIS CRAP! I am SHOCKED THAT I HAVE BEEN SO MISUNDERSTOOD! YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE! BUT I DO NOT NEED MY STRESS LEVEL RAISED< WHATEVER YOU THINK!! Best of Luck to the rest of you, and you too,—-PR

cyncyn
cyncyn 2009-07-15 09:32:58 -0500 Report

WOW!!! This is so intense. This site is for advise AND opinions!! Some of the advise, and opinions, that work for some, may also work for others. This site is suppose to be, people helping people!! Not judging. Because one's BS numbers are not as high (or low) as another, does not make theirs unimportant! And as far as spelling, when did they make that mandatory!!!!
Because one's opinions is not the same, as another's, does not make it wrong, it's a discussion, not a research paper, for school.(no grades, A+ thru D-, are given) ! Diabetes has many faces, and like finger prints, no two are alike. So, please don't condemn one, for their opinions or ideas. We are here to help one another
Best of luck to ALL,
HUGS,
Cyndi.

Pat Roth
Pat Roth 2009-07-15 10:45:30 -0500 Report

Thank you for your support, Cyndi. I shouldn't have gotten so uptight, that is just one of my buttons that is still too sensitive. I guess the fair—at least Vented, I hope that you feel better this morn, as I do. Sorry to be rude and crude. Best Wishes to ALL< pat roth

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